Evangelion School Shooting at Tokyo 3 Junior High

Prince Charon

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#26
divad said:
In regards to the enumerated reasons that a gun would be a superior weapon I totally agree. I choose knife due to matters of avalibilty and if somebody comes in with a knife looking to kill one of their class mates the group isn't going to be as easily controlled as if he was holding a gun on them but at the same time no one is going to run up and tackle him because he could probably knife them just like you said shinji probably would be. also the weapon is a single edge and fair sized hand gaurd and handle so long as he din't make the mistake of kicking the sharp side I have hard time seeing kicking it away as difficult. I will agree that the skill with which shinji deals with it is the weakest part of what plot there is to this though.
Well, as a first or second draft, its good.
 

GreydonCreed

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#27
The way I saw it, Shinji attacked the crazy when his back was turned to him, after he had swung the short sword at Asuka and off balance, so he had a major advantage. And Shinji probably had some hand to hand training, even if it was just for EVA fighting. After that, Asuka and Shinji fell into synchronization and dropped the crazy.

Keep in mind, Asuka was hit with the sword, but the hit was either at a bad angle or the sword was one of the cheap war-produced ones, since a solid strike by a real Japanese sword will cut through bone, as we saw once Rei got her hands on the sword. :huh:

Look forward to seeing more. ^_^
 

randombugger

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#28
GreydonCreed said:
The way I saw it, Shinji attacked the crazy when his back was turned to him, after he had swung the short sword at Asuka and off balance, so he had a major advantage. And Shinji probably had some hand to hand training, even if it was just for EVA fighting. After that, Asuka and Shinji fell into synchronization and dropped the crazy.

Keep in mind, Asuka was hit with the sword, but the hit was either at a bad angle or the sword was one of the cheap war-produced ones, since a solid strike by a real Japanese sword will cut through bone, as we saw once Rei got her hands on the sword. :huh:

Look forward to seeing more.? ^_^
Actually I could see the cut being both bad angle of the cut and a few other factors. I've been taking Iaido classes for around three years now, and to this day I can't reliably make a proper cut. If the angle of edge relative to the direction of the cut is off like so </> instead of <|> it would likely make a rather messy cut. Second after rereading the snippet it sounds as if the tip was the only part to actually strike Asuka.
 

SEG-CISR

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#29
divad said:
Random-ass overkill, and I doubt Shinji would know to do things like kicking away the 'mad man's weapon. Somewhat difficult to read and follow.
whats wrong with a little overkill? It was mostly that idea of overkill that made me want to write the scene. also how did you find it hard to understand, I've only recently begun to put effort into developing some kind of skill in creative writing and was somewhat hoping for some constructive critism
:blink: Two mortal wounds to the head, getting his head chopped off, and kicked away?
 

GreydonCreed

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#30
SEG-CISR said:
divad said:
Random-ass overkill, and I doubt Shinji would know to do things like kicking away the 'mad man's weapon. Somewhat difficult to read and follow.
whats wrong with a little overkill? It was mostly that idea of overkill that made me want to write the scene. also how did you find it hard to understand, I've only recently begun to put effort into developing some kind of skill in creative writing and was somewhat hoping for some constructive critism
:blink: Two mortal wounds to the head, getting his head chopped off, and kicked away?
To tell the truth, the only reason those two head strikes were probably lethal is because they occurred at the same moment, with the head in the middle. The human head/brain casing is a heavily reinforced structure that can take a lot of trauma while maintaining it's integrity. People are shot in the head all the time, and the bullet slides along the bone under the skin and then exits. Unless one of the three weak points are penetrated, a head shot is not a certain fatality.

Rei's Highlander move, on the other hand, was a certain kill, and even then the body twitches for a few seconds. Kicking the head away was an emotional response from Asuka and not a tactical one.

And to wrap this up, there is a slogan for a company that makes tactical gear - "Overkill Never Fails." ^_^
 

randombugger

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#31
GreydonCreed said:
SEG-CISR said:
divad said:
Random-ass overkill, and I doubt Shinji would know to do things like kicking away the 'mad man's weapon. Somewhat difficult to read and follow.
whats wrong with a little overkill? It was mostly that idea of overkill that made me want to write the scene. also how did you find it hard to understand, I've only recently begun to put effort into developing some kind of skill in creative writing and was somewhat hoping for some constructive critism
:blink: Two mortal wounds to the head, getting his head chopped off, and kicked away?
To tell the truth, the only reason those two head strikes were probably lethal is because they occurred at the same moment, with the head in the middle. The human head/brain casing is a heavily reinforced structure that can take a lot of trauma while maintaining it's integrity. People are shot in the head all the time, and the bullet slides along the bone under the skin and then exits. Unless one of the three weak points are penetrated, a head shot is not a certain fatality.

Rei's Highlander move, on the other hand, was a certain kill, and even then the body twitches for a few seconds. Kicking the head away was an emotional response from Asuka and not a tactical one.

And to wrap this up, there is a slogan for a company that makes tactical gear - "Overkill Never Fails." ^_^
And underkill Always does.
 

Prince Charon

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#32
randombugger said:
GreydonCreed said:
SEG-CISR said:
divad said:
Random-ass overkill, and I doubt Shinji would know to do things like kicking away the 'mad man's weapon. Somewhat difficult to read and follow.
whats wrong with a little overkill? It was mostly that idea of overkill that made me want to write the scene. also how did you find it hard to understand, I've only recently begun to put effort into developing some kind of skill in creative writing and was somewhat hoping for some constructive critism
:blink: Two mortal wounds to the head, getting his head chopped off, and kicked away?
To tell the truth, the only reason those two head strikes were probably lethal is because they occurred at the same moment, with the head in the middle. The human head/brain casing is a heavily reinforced structure that can take a lot of trauma while maintaining it's integrity. People are shot in the head all the time, and the bullet slides along the bone under the skin and then exits. Unless one of the three weak points are penetrated, a head shot is not a certain fatality.

Rei's Highlander move, on the other hand, was a certain kill, and even then the body twitches for a few seconds. Kicking the head away was an emotional response from Asuka and not a tactical one.

And to wrap this up, there is a slogan for a company that makes tactical gear - "Overkill Never Fails." ^_^
And underkill Always does.
Pretty much by definition, or it wouldn't be called underkill.

Of course, the psychological effects of this would be different from the effects in the OP, as all three pilots participated, and none went totally into Berserker mode. Asuka getting to help kill the guy would react differently than one who merely watched in shock, while Shinji avenged her.
 
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