Harry Potter Snape is Still. A. Douche.

Steel

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#1
Now, I haven't read the entirety of DH yet, as...I'm having trouble mustering the willpower. But instead of people going "Hey, Snape's been a douche the entire series, and now he's randomly been thrown OOC into being awesome! This is fucking retarded!", people are squeeing for Rowling redeeming him.

He's a FUCKING DOUCHEBAG! He's cruel to students, he fucks with their heads, and there have been instances of negligence that could have gotten tons of people killed.

I don't fucking care what rowling did in book 7. Snape is, and will always be, a giant douche.

(Or turd sandwich).
 
#2
Agreed. The revelation of Snape's agenda still didn't explain why he was a complete and total asshat. If anything, it makes even less sense.
 

cilrais

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#3
I think it's rejuvenated the genre and shown you can be a good guy and still be a gigantic douchebag while doing so. It's like a whole new category

Hero
Anti-Hero
Giant-Douchebag-Hero
 

Steel

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#4
Totally OOC Douchebag who makes no sense as a hero.
 

Vasey

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#5
Just wait till you get to the bit where it explains why he turned to good. It really did make him look like the most pathetic twerp on Earth.
 
#6
Rowling is apparently of the opinion that one major good deed (you know, sorta fighting against Voldemort), totally redeems Snape of being a petty small-minded bully, who actually holds a multi-generational grudge.
 
#7
Rowling does not seem to understand that it is all of ones acts that determine the character of a person.

He proves that he is a douchebag by joining the Death Eaters in the first place, then he reinforces it by his actions and then being a complete and utter asshole to those not in Slytherin and especially to Harry after the first fall of Voldemort.
 

praeceps11

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#8
Umm why would people even consider that he is not a douchebag? He is only on the side of the light because he's an obsessive creepy stalker who managed to get the object of his obsession killed. Yes I'm ignoring the fact that one of Harry's children has a middle name of Severus because the epiloque was just that stupid.
 

Bluedawn

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#9
How are we sure its the middle name? The other two kids just had Lily and Jmes Potter so I'm betting his first names is actually Albus Severus :sick2:
 

lord_phoenix

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#10
It seems strange that a parent would be cruel enough to name one of his children white sniveling potter
 

cilrais

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#11
Yeah but to have a Potter named after you, Snape must be pissed.
 

Steel

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#12
So many people on the net are saying how he used to be their least favorite character, but now he's their most favorite. It makes me sick.
 

ttestagr

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#13
He's now one of my favorites because he's an unredeemed obsessive compulsive asshat stalker. The only thing we saw for certain was that loving Lily redeemed him in Harry's eyes, and he's strange when it comes to his parents. My sister has the book, so I can't doublecheck, but Ginny's response to his little speech to his son didn't suggest that she totally agreed with him. And we didn't get anyone elses thoughts on the matter. It is completely possible that the rest of society recognizes what a fuckup he really was.
 

fitzgerald

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#14
That or Harry really hates his male kids and is working to ensure his daughter develops an Electra complex.

Because isn't Harry convinced his father was a total douche and bully for picking on a pyscho stalker.

After all if he really loved the kids he'd name them after Sirius or any adult male who at least attempted being a father to Harry.

I'm going with a Harry has been completely mindfucked by Dumbledore and Snape into a programed little drone theory here. It explains Harry/Ginny after all.

That or Harry really is a twisted SOB who hates his sons and wants his daughter to lust after him.

Which would be disturbing as hell to read but if done right.......

Ciao
 

parker

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#15
so snape was redeemed in harry's eyes because he(snape) loved his(harry) mom
are we sure he wasn't trying to say fucked and harry's just an idiot
 
#16
Well I mean when Harry says that he won't kill anybody... and starts that whole shit he does show that he is an idiot. I mean really in a life or death situation you kill if it means that you survive when they are trying to kill you.

Harry having his head fucked up by Dumbledore/Snape would also explain the whole Harry/Ginny load of shit we had to endure.

Bottom line is the epilogue was craptacular and Snape is still a giant douche.
 

The Eromancer

Well-Known Member
#17
Then its decided... The Epilogue NEVER happened. The rest of the series is ok in my opinion, can't see how people DON'T like the second book and LIKE the 3rd movie.

The Harry/Ginny bit is explain by Rowling: Ginny is her self-insert.

Ohhh, here's a funny bit, turns Skeeter was actually on the mark about Albus, hell when Harry and him were talking in "La-La Land" all but outright admited to being just as Rita alluded to in her book's excerpt. People can say what they want about the woman... but she's apparently VERY good at what she does.

So that bring back to question; why the FUCK did Harry name ANY of his kids after Albus, Severius, or James.

One good thing DID come out of all of this though, I can now fully develop a complete idea for a fanfic on how Harry going into Hufflepuff would/could work better than any of the three houses combined.

Just think for a moment what are the main principals of Slytherin, Gryffindor, and Ravenclaw? Ambition, Bravery, Intelligence, correct? This is the way I see it though.

Slytherins have ambition and drive but not the intelligence to use properly/control it, nor the bravery to needed to gain it.

Gryffindors have bravery to do what's needed, but not the intelligence to look before you leap, nor the ambition or cunning to keep it.

Ravenclaws have intelligence, but not the bravery to use it, nor the ambition and cunning to go very far with their skills.

Much like the Triad, or you all might be more familiar with the Triforce. Ambition: representing Power. Bravery: representing Courage. Intelligence: representing Wisdom.

So here we have three houses that raise above the other their specific traits needed to enter said specified houses.... and so Hufflepuff is cast to the wayside, completely underestimated, never mind the fact that all the students of that house encompass all such traits in even quantities. But above that they are willing to WORK HARD for their ambitions, the courage to pursue them and the wisdom to know how to get them done. The loyalty should have been played off better in the Deathly Hallows, more realistically speaking they would have ALL stayed. Also with another quality being tollerance it would have been so much easier for Harry to make friends with just about everyone, or at the very least be on civil terms.

but in the end, if you want to be realistic harry WOULD have ended up in Slytherin if not Gryffindor and it would have done him more good too. All Harry had to do was NOT be picked up by Hagrid OR not meat Draco Malfoy.

:eek:t:

Now their's something that's always bothered me.... on the train, when Ron first met Harry the way he was acting was absolutely disgusting, "Are you really Harry Potter?" and can wanting to see the scar, Ron only went into that compartment in the first place to see if the twins were pulling his leg! Ron's always been an attention hoar, just like my sister only not as outgoing, he wanted to be see as equals as Harry to he befriended him, and hat happened when Ron was pushed to the wayside and Harry got all the attention or he thought Harry was keeping something from him? What does he do? BACKSTABBER!!! Never liked the little fucker from the first time i read about him. And then the plot with him and Hermione.... that's water and oil, need I say more? (Well I will anyways) No WAY it could have happened other than because of base lust and the extenuating cercumstances that brought them closer together because they were following Harry around in the 7th book. I can safely say that will be a broken home in sometime soon, i don't care what Rowling put in that stupid epilogue it never would have lasted more than a few years AT BEST.

Ok, I'm done with my rant.
 

Laniac67

Well-Known Member
#18
The epilogue was added for one simple reason: The Harry Potter series was written for children. It's just a few, drawn-out pages of saying, "And they all lived happily ever after." The names of Harry's kids are supposed to suggest that nobody is beyond redemption, which is Rowling's bullshit attempt at a "moral" for the story.
 

immolo

Well-Known Member
#19
The Eromancer said:
Then its decided... The Epilogue NEVER happened. The rest of the series is ok in my opinion, can't see how people DON'T like the second book and LIKE the 3rd movie.

The Harry/Ginny bit is explain by Rowling: Ginny is her self-insert.

Ohhh, here's a funny bit, turns Skeeter was actually on the mark about Albus, hell when Harry and him were talking in "La-La Land" all but outright admited to being just as Rita alluded to in her book's excerpt. People can say what they want about the woman... but she's apparently VERY good at what she does.

So that bring back to question; why the FUCK did Harry name ANY of his kids after Albus, Severius, or James.

One good thing DID come out of all of this though, I can now fully develop a complete idea for a fanfic on how Harry going into Hufflepuff would/could work better than any of the three houses combined.

Just think for a moment what are the main principals of Slytherin, Gryffindor, and Ravenclaw? Ambition, Bravery, Intelligence, correct? This is the way I see it though.

Slytherins have ambition and drive but not the intelligence to use properly/control it, nor the bravery to needed to gain it.

Gryffindors have bravery to do what's needed, but not the intelligence to look before you leap, nor the ambition or cunning to keep it.

Ravenclaws have intelligence, but not the bravery to use it, nor the ambition and cunning to go very far with their skills.

Much like the Triad, or you all might be more familiar with the Triforce. Ambition: representing Power. Bravery: representing Courage. Intelligence: representing Wisdom.

So here we have three houses that raise above the other their specific traits needed to enter said specified houses.... and so Hufflepuff is cast to the wayside, completely underestimated, never mind the fact that all the students of that house encompass all such traits in even quantities. But above that they are willing to WORK HARD for their ambitions, the courage to pursue them and the wisdom to know how to get them done. The loyalty should have been played off better in the Deathly Hallows, more realistically speaking they would have ALL stayed. Also with another quality being tollerance it would have been so much easier for Harry to make friends with just about everyone, or at the very least be on civil terms.

but in the end, if you want to be realistic harry WOULD have ended up in Slytherin if not Gryffindor and it would have done him more good too. All Harry had to do was NOT be picked up by Hagrid OR not meat Draco Malfoy.

:eek:t:

Now their's something that's always bothered me.... on the train, when Ron first met Harry the way he was acting was absolutely disgusting, "Are you really Harry Potter?" and can wanting to see the scar, Ron only went into that compartment in the first place to see if the twins were pulling his leg! Ron's always been an attention hoar, just like my sister only not as outgoing, he wanted to be see as equals as Harry to he befriended him, and hat happened when Ron was pushed to the wayside and Harry got all the attention or he thought Harry was keeping something from him? What does he do? BACKSTABBER!!! Never liked the little fucker from the first time i read about him. And then the plot with him and Hermione.... that's water and oil, need I say more? (Well I will anyways) No WAY it could have happened other than because of base lust and the extenuating cercumstances that brought them closer together because they were following Harry around in the 7th book. I can safely say that will be a broken home in sometime soon, i don't care what Rowling put in that stupid epilogue it never would have lasted more than a few years AT BEST.

Ok, I'm done with my rant.
Whats most funny about your post is you are wrong. JKR herself said Hermione was her self insert and Ron 'I abandon my friends for food' Weasley is her perfect man.
 
#20
immolo said:
JKR herself said Hermione was her self insert and Ron 'I abandon my friends for food' Weasley is her perfect man.
Gotta agree with immolo on this part. Hermione, from what I can recall, is the SI/deus ex machina (need them to find something out? Cue Hermione.). I dunno about Ron, but the other Weasley child...is the Mary-Sue from hell.

From what I understand, there isn't an interview where the only Weasley girl comes up that JKR doesn't use the term 'perfect' at least five times. :sick2:
 

Souffle

Well-Known Member
#21
As much as i realize how much of a douche and an asshole Snape is, I can't help but love how he is always quick to lay down the burn. I have to respect that.
 

theM

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#22
Far as I can tell, the main reason Harry named a kid Albus Severus is that not a single wizard had the stones to ask the savior of the wizarding world if he'd ever considered therapy for his obvious issues.


ninja edit: Souffle, your moving pics make my eyes bleed.
 

Souffle

Well-Known Member
#23
theM said:
ninja edit: Souffle, your moving pics make my eyes bleed.
Mission Complete


I think i've finally, truly decided just to ignore that the last two books exist. They did way too much crap to the story for me to care or follow.
 

SmacksKiller

Well-Known Member
#24
Souffle said:
theM said:
ninja edit: Souffle, your moving pics make my eyes bleed.
Mission Complete


I think i've finally, truly decided just to ignore that the last two books exist. They did way too much crap to the story for me to care or follow.
What last teo books. After the OotP, it is common knowledge that Rowling was killed and has been replaced by a complex computer program that picks its ideas from fanfictions.


:eek:t: Can someone tell me why it's always the Slytherins the dark wizards ? Because their ambitious ? Please....
I wouldn't be surprised if their is actually more Ravenclaws that study the Dark Arts. Nowhere does it says that you have to be a muggle-lover in order to be sorted into Gryffindor, and it takes a lot of courage to go against the law and/or start a war. Finally Hufflepuffs can be loyal to a lot of different things; their dark family or a dark lord for example.
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#25
Yeah... I mean, seriously, what's Rowling trying to do, force a C.S. Lewis-type perspective on everyone who reads her books?

That might be fine for some people, but I want to see three-dimensional characters, not cardboard cutouts!
 
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