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I'd have to say that Penelo was the blandest. Not only that, but I felt as though the VA was standing too close to the microphone when she recorded her lines.
In any case back to Unlimited Saga...
The biggest gripe of all I had was the fact that I pretty much bought it when it was brand new. Had I gotten this a few weeks later, when an unopened copy reached 5 dollars and actually worth less than used SNES games, I might have accepted my purchase for what it was.
I can actually remember what I said when I bought it, too. "Square hasn't disappointed me yet, so I might as well get it."
...meh.
Also, travelling.
At first, I didn't mind that it was basically one giant board game. Hell, I played MUDs for a long time, and those don't have any graphics at all. But even those still had more detail and more variety than Unlimited Saga had. Battles were annoying too, especially if you were just trying to get somewhere, since you couldn't run away and thus had to spend precious HP and sometimes weapon dexterity on an enemy (and, most importantly, time). No map that showed your progress in an area hurt it as well, since it's pretty easy to forget where you've been.
Ventus' storyline, the one I played, literally threw you into a dungeon at one point, and you had to go searching around looking for many obscure clues to get past it while facing infinitely spawning monsters and no way to heal without sitting around hoping that, by some chance, monsters won't find you and attack; even then, it's just HP, which is quickly expendable.
Finally, you can't really empathize with any of the characters. The story's too weak from what I've seen, something that is bound to happen in a game with seven different storylines, but I never expected it to be to the degree of Unlimited Saga. Even Tenjho Tenge had better development than anything in the game...and that's saying something.
Once again, if I had gotten it for five dollars, I probably wouldn't hate it as much as I do now. But I didn't.
In any case back to Unlimited Saga...
The biggest gripe of all I had was the fact that I pretty much bought it when it was brand new. Had I gotten this a few weeks later, when an unopened copy reached 5 dollars and actually worth less than used SNES games, I might have accepted my purchase for what it was.
I can actually remember what I said when I bought it, too. "Square hasn't disappointed me yet, so I might as well get it."
...meh.
Also, travelling.
At first, I didn't mind that it was basically one giant board game. Hell, I played MUDs for a long time, and those don't have any graphics at all. But even those still had more detail and more variety than Unlimited Saga had. Battles were annoying too, especially if you were just trying to get somewhere, since you couldn't run away and thus had to spend precious HP and sometimes weapon dexterity on an enemy (and, most importantly, time). No map that showed your progress in an area hurt it as well, since it's pretty easy to forget where you've been.
Ventus' storyline, the one I played, literally threw you into a dungeon at one point, and you had to go searching around looking for many obscure clues to get past it while facing infinitely spawning monsters and no way to heal without sitting around hoping that, by some chance, monsters won't find you and attack; even then, it's just HP, which is quickly expendable.
Finally, you can't really empathize with any of the characters. The story's too weak from what I've seen, something that is bound to happen in a game with seven different storylines, but I never expected it to be to the degree of Unlimited Saga. Even Tenjho Tenge had better development than anything in the game...and that's saying something.
Once again, if I had gotten it for five dollars, I probably wouldn't hate it as much as I do now. But I didn't.
To me, Squenix games are hit-or-miss. Either they are made of win, or made of fail.
I personally liked FF7 a lot at the time I first played it. The storyline was better than a lot of things I had seen up until then (which was, admittedly, limited), the gameplay was unique, the battle system involved without being too complicated (I liked the way Tifa's Limit Break reels livened up the game, for instance). The graphics were pretty good for the era, the FMV was very new to me, and the characters themselves tended to be pretty interesting to the high school sophomore that I was.
It's not the Greatest Hit Ever, and better games have been made and released in the US since then, but it still has a good value in my heart. I still play it now and again, for nostalgic reasons.
Final Fantasy 8 was just too "meh". Squall just completely failed to be someone I can identify with. The only fun thing was the way some of the limit breaks increased the interactivity, and even then, it tended to get in the way more often than not.
Oh, and let's not forget how the game punishes you for leveling up. "Oh, gee, my party's at level 100, so they should have an easier time against the last boss... L5 Death?! Oh, FUCK YOU!"
FF10 was decent. Tidus was too whiny for me to like him much, but the other characters were fun (well, Rikku did get on my nerves on occasion, but Auron made up for her). FF10-2 just ruined it for me. Yes, I do want to see more resolution to 10's plot, but not if I have to sit through a shitty magical girl-slash-Charlie's Angels wannabe grrl-power wankfest to do it.
Haven't played 12.
I honestly thought Final Fantasy IV was the best of them. The characters were good, the story was engaging, the gameplay was fun, and there were enough sidequests to keep me from getting bored with leveling. Plus, it had one thing that no other Squenix game I can think of right now has: A final boss who is still a big challenge, even if you max your levels, get all the spells, and find all the best equipment. Zeromus was, and is, a massive bitch to beat.
Call me old-fashioned, but I kinda miss the good old days when the Final Boss was the biggest obstacle your party could face. It makes finishing the game just that much more fulfilling if you don't have to look outside the climax of the story for the Ultimate Challenge.
Plus, it was the first CRPG that I remember playing (Zelda doesn't really count, to me), so that gives it nostalgic value.
Outside the Final Fantasies (whose name grows increasingly contradictory with every successive title :snigger: ), I still enjoy Seiken Densetsu 3 a lot... but I was severely disappointed in Sword of Mana, the GBA remake of Seiken Densetsu 1 (which had, for some unfathomable reason, been released in the US as Final Fantasy Adventure).
I personally liked FF7 a lot at the time I first played it. The storyline was better than a lot of things I had seen up until then (which was, admittedly, limited), the gameplay was unique, the battle system involved without being too complicated (I liked the way Tifa's Limit Break reels livened up the game, for instance). The graphics were pretty good for the era, the FMV was very new to me, and the characters themselves tended to be pretty interesting to the high school sophomore that I was.
It's not the Greatest Hit Ever, and better games have been made and released in the US since then, but it still has a good value in my heart. I still play it now and again, for nostalgic reasons.
Final Fantasy 8 was just too "meh". Squall just completely failed to be someone I can identify with. The only fun thing was the way some of the limit breaks increased the interactivity, and even then, it tended to get in the way more often than not.
Oh, and let's not forget how the game punishes you for leveling up. "Oh, gee, my party's at level 100, so they should have an easier time against the last boss... L5 Death?! Oh, FUCK YOU!"
FF10 was decent. Tidus was too whiny for me to like him much, but the other characters were fun (well, Rikku did get on my nerves on occasion, but Auron made up for her). FF10-2 just ruined it for me. Yes, I do want to see more resolution to 10's plot, but not if I have to sit through a shitty magical girl-slash-Charlie's Angels wannabe grrl-power wankfest to do it.
Haven't played 12.
I honestly thought Final Fantasy IV was the best of them. The characters were good, the story was engaging, the gameplay was fun, and there were enough sidequests to keep me from getting bored with leveling. Plus, it had one thing that no other Squenix game I can think of right now has: A final boss who is still a big challenge, even if you max your levels, get all the spells, and find all the best equipment. Zeromus was, and is, a massive bitch to beat.
Call me old-fashioned, but I kinda miss the good old days when the Final Boss was the biggest obstacle your party could face. It makes finishing the game just that much more fulfilling if you don't have to look outside the climax of the story for the Ultimate Challenge.
Plus, it was the first CRPG that I remember playing (Zelda doesn't really count, to me), so that gives it nostalgic value.
Outside the Final Fantasies (whose name grows increasingly contradictory with every successive title :snigger: ), I still enjoy Seiken Densetsu 3 a lot... but I was severely disappointed in Sword of Mana, the GBA remake of Seiken Densetsu 1 (which had, for some unfathomable reason, been released in the US as Final Fantasy Adventure).
The reason isn't very unfathomable, they were trying to market on the FF name.
Now onto the ones I've played:
FF6 - Very good game, good characters with fun gameplay. A villain you can really hate to with Kefka. If I didn't mess up royally and miss several characters before the end I would have finished it. As is I went to start over and never got around to actually going through it again.
FF7 - As good as 6. If I had to rate them, I'd have to say that I think 6 and 7 are tied for the best games in the series.
FF8 - Too much wrong with it, and saying it was bad is kind. The junction system was painful to play through and made the game incredibly tedious. The characters weren't interesting or engaging. The storyline was also bland, with a plot twist that was moronic. All in all, possibly the worst FF, even beating out the crap that is 10-2. The ending sucked too.
FF9 - It hit on certain points, and missed very much on others. I liked some of the characters (Zidane, Dagger, Eiko) and hated others (Steiner, Amarant die!) Also enjoyed parts of the story (particularly Dagger's adoptive mother's sceme to get Daggers summons and then going around blowing everything the hell up) but some parts were painful (Kuja mostly, I threw my controller when he survived Bahamuts attack.) To me, 9 was a slightly above average game.
FF10 - A good game. Not close to 6 or 7, but decent. The battle system was my biggest problem, with them abandoning the ATB system. Wakka was the only character I really hated, with Tidus being meh at the beginning but growing on me. Sidequests weren't the best, but I surprised myself by playing a lot of blitzball in my spare time. Storyline was pretty good, with the twist being a bit obvious but okay. Ending was very good, tragic and unhappy.
FF10-2 - Is edged out barely be 8 as the worst FF. Which leaves it with nothing except being a pretty bad game. Storyline sucked, no plot twists, ending shat on 10's great end, worst main quest in any rpg. The only positive was the return of the ATB system. Battle still sucked because of the dress up.
FF12 - A good game, I think slightly better than 10. Still haven't beaten it, so my mind may change later in the game. Storyline started off good, characters were bland but not bad, battle system is good (for all the complaining about the gambits you don't have to use them and I sometimes don't.) Character upgrades are also good, and an improvement over 10's system. My only major beef is that I hate the character design (Vaan, Basch, and Fran in particular)
FFT - Okay game, but I didn't really enjoy it and therefore never finished it.
Now onto the ones I've played:
FF6 - Very good game, good characters with fun gameplay. A villain you can really hate to with Kefka. If I didn't mess up royally and miss several characters before the end I would have finished it. As is I went to start over and never got around to actually going through it again.
FF7 - As good as 6. If I had to rate them, I'd have to say that I think 6 and 7 are tied for the best games in the series.
FF8 - Too much wrong with it, and saying it was bad is kind. The junction system was painful to play through and made the game incredibly tedious. The characters weren't interesting or engaging. The storyline was also bland, with a plot twist that was moronic. All in all, possibly the worst FF, even beating out the crap that is 10-2. The ending sucked too.
FF9 - It hit on certain points, and missed very much on others. I liked some of the characters (Zidane, Dagger, Eiko) and hated others (Steiner, Amarant die!) Also enjoyed parts of the story (particularly Dagger's adoptive mother's sceme to get Daggers summons and then going around blowing everything the hell up) but some parts were painful (Kuja mostly, I threw my controller when he survived Bahamuts attack.) To me, 9 was a slightly above average game.
FF10 - A good game. Not close to 6 or 7, but decent. The battle system was my biggest problem, with them abandoning the ATB system. Wakka was the only character I really hated, with Tidus being meh at the beginning but growing on me. Sidequests weren't the best, but I surprised myself by playing a lot of blitzball in my spare time. Storyline was pretty good, with the twist being a bit obvious but okay. Ending was very good, tragic and unhappy.
FF10-2 - Is edged out barely be 8 as the worst FF. Which leaves it with nothing except being a pretty bad game. Storyline sucked, no plot twists, ending shat on 10's great end, worst main quest in any rpg. The only positive was the return of the ATB system. Battle still sucked because of the dress up.
FF12 - A good game, I think slightly better than 10. Still haven't beaten it, so my mind may change later in the game. Storyline started off good, characters were bland but not bad, battle system is good (for all the complaining about the gambits you don't have to use them and I sometimes don't.) Character upgrades are also good, and an improvement over 10's system. My only major beef is that I hate the character design (Vaan, Basch, and Fran in particular)
FFT - Okay game, but I didn't really enjoy it and therefore never finished it.
The looks! The looks! :wub: She doesnt have many lines, but the looks! the looks! I love how she handles a bow and arrow..... :lol: lmao.
Alright, the voice acting may be bland, but since she has so little lines, I guess those little quips were moments.
:evil: Though I just recieved my first game over..... my whole party was wiped out by some horse with 9999 HP, and kept teleporting around, following us on the entire map. :huh!: After I raised my levels by 3..... (Vahn was on 50, the others were on 38) it all went down the drain. :headbanger:
Alright, the voice acting may be bland, but since she has so little lines, I guess those little quips were moments.
:evil: Though I just recieved my first game over..... my whole party was wiped out by some horse with 9999 HP, and kept teleporting around, following us on the entire map. :huh!: After I raised my levels by 3..... (Vahn was on 50, the others were on 38) it all went down the drain. :headbanger:
I must agree, Star Ocean 3 is a good game. The plot twist? What the heck, it was interesting. I always wondered how the PCs and NPCs in my games thought about us 'real-worlders' manipulating them. The battle system was nice and engaging and there really was no room to get bored. The item creation wasn't bad either, though I think it could have been better.
Grandia 3 (I believe it's an SE game) was really nice. The battle system left me gaping with awe (I loved the air combos). I haven't finished it yet, but so far I have no complaints....except for the main female protagonist whose name I didn't even bother remembering (I can't stand her. Half the time I just want to kill her off for some reason).
Legend of Manna (SE game, right?) was a bit old, but I somehow liked it a lot. I don't know why. Well, I was 13 when I played it, but I loved it nonetheless. I even replayed it just for the heck of it. Sure, 2D graphics, semi-side scrolling movement, and all that, but it was perhaps the most creative SE game ever.
I remember getting unlimited Saga (really cheap, for 2 dollars, a used copy). I played it for about 10 minutes, got to the first dungeon, died, and I never bothered playing it ever again. The gameplay just irked me beyond hell and to me it was the worst waste of 2 dollars I ever had the shame of paying. I can't even remember why else I hated it, but I hated it.
FFT was quite addictive. I was 14 when I played it for the first time and I immediately fell in love with it. The gameplay was good and the storyline was quite decent for an FF game.
FF9 was quite decent, in terms of characters and storyline. Sure, the characters weren't all that deep, but they were ok and fun to play with. The story itself was nicely paced, with decent plot-twists, though in the end I couldn't help but feel that it was somewhat bland. I mean, what, Crystal of Life? Necronis? The last boss only showed up for the heck of it at the very end. What the?!
FFX sucks. Nice music, but it sucks. FFX-2......don't get me started.
FFXII on the other hand.....sigh....what can I say?
As for Atlus games, I played a few of their old RPGs which I enjoyed. I forgot the titles now though, but they were fun to play.
Grandia 3 (I believe it's an SE game) was really nice. The battle system left me gaping with awe (I loved the air combos). I haven't finished it yet, but so far I have no complaints....except for the main female protagonist whose name I didn't even bother remembering (I can't stand her. Half the time I just want to kill her off for some reason).
Legend of Manna (SE game, right?) was a bit old, but I somehow liked it a lot. I don't know why. Well, I was 13 when I played it, but I loved it nonetheless. I even replayed it just for the heck of it. Sure, 2D graphics, semi-side scrolling movement, and all that, but it was perhaps the most creative SE game ever.
I remember getting unlimited Saga (really cheap, for 2 dollars, a used copy). I played it for about 10 minutes, got to the first dungeon, died, and I never bothered playing it ever again. The gameplay just irked me beyond hell and to me it was the worst waste of 2 dollars I ever had the shame of paying. I can't even remember why else I hated it, but I hated it.
FFT was quite addictive. I was 14 when I played it for the first time and I immediately fell in love with it. The gameplay was good and the storyline was quite decent for an FF game.
FF9 was quite decent, in terms of characters and storyline. Sure, the characters weren't all that deep, but they were ok and fun to play with. The story itself was nicely paced, with decent plot-twists, though in the end I couldn't help but feel that it was somewhat bland. I mean, what, Crystal of Life? Necronis? The last boss only showed up for the heck of it at the very end. What the?!
FFX sucks. Nice music, but it sucks. FFX-2......don't get me started.
FFXII on the other hand.....sigh....what can I say?
As for Atlus games, I played a few of their old RPGs which I enjoyed. I forgot the titles now though, but they were fun to play.
Necron (and Zeromus to an extent) gave the name to an entire genre of bosses, the type that just pops out of the blue and leaves you WTFing. To this day, of those bosses we oldskoolers say they have the 'Zeromus/Necron syndrome'.
Consider that I am deaf, and you can imagine what my opinion of FFX is.
The fact I found the whole cast except Lulu forgettable or just plain shitty doesn't help. Lulu was properly in-character, though. Shame she looked like a S&M magazine reject crossed over with a pseudogoth vampire-fangirl.
Oh, and FFX further loses point for having a male lead that looks like MEG FUCKING RYAN. For shame, Square.
Consider that I am deaf, and you can imagine what my opinion of FFX is.
The fact I found the whole cast except Lulu forgettable or just plain shitty doesn't help. Lulu was properly in-character, though. Shame she looked like a S&M magazine reject crossed over with a pseudogoth vampire-fangirl.
Oh, and FFX further loses point for having a male lead that looks like MEG FUCKING RYAN. For shame, Square.
All the sources I've seen say Tidus looks like a carbon copy of Gackt.
And I, for one, found Lulu to be hotter than hot. Seriously. I mean, her outfit... it's a magnificent blend of revealing some of her attributes, while leaving almost everything else hidden to tantalize the imagination...
~
Didn't like her hair, though.
But she still gets points for having murder dolls do her bidding. Onion Knight FTW! :lol:
Zenithos, if you liked Legend of Mana somewhat, grab a copy of ZSNES and a ROM of Seiken Densetsu 3. There's also a patched version of the ROM translated into English out there, if you can't read Japanese. I hold it to be the best of the Mana/Seiken Densetsu games.
Three possible storylines, six characters to choose from, three party members, special class changes, and the legendary Vorpal Bunny himself, the Black Rabite! What's not to like?
And yes, the Grandia games were great. I need to find a new copy of Grandia II; I don't want to play 3 before I finish the second one.
Odd trivia: La Pucelle Tactics, one of the famed Nippon Ichi Software games, was released in the US by Atlus.
And I, for one, found Lulu to be hotter than hot. Seriously. I mean, her outfit... it's a magnificent blend of revealing some of her attributes, while leaving almost everything else hidden to tantalize the imagination...
~Didn't like her hair, though.
But she still gets points for having murder dolls do her bidding. Onion Knight FTW! :lol:
Zenithos, if you liked Legend of Mana somewhat, grab a copy of ZSNES and a ROM of Seiken Densetsu 3. There's also a patched version of the ROM translated into English out there, if you can't read Japanese. I hold it to be the best of the Mana/Seiken Densetsu games.
Three possible storylines, six characters to choose from, three party members, special class changes, and the legendary Vorpal Bunny himself, the Black Rabite! What's not to like?
And yes, the Grandia games were great. I need to find a new copy of Grandia II; I don't want to play 3 before I finish the second one.
Odd trivia: La Pucelle Tactics, one of the famed Nippon Ichi Software games, was released in the US by Atlus.
YES! Finally, someone else see it like this too. I am sure that there are others too, but I felt like maybe I was just crazy...well, ok, maybe I am a little crazy, but at least I am not the only one who saw it this way.
I've heard that too. Never seen Gackt, but it wouldn't be surprising since he did the major songs for Dirge of Cerberus.
Well, I never made it to the end of IV. I played the PS remake of four and got to some boss towards the end of the game that was a pain in the ass because he would constantly instant kill characters, heal for around 40,000 every few turns and you could not cast reflect on him to stop the healing. I just ended up getting frustrated and moving on...I really should stop doing that with games.
Yes, FFIV, SMT:N and Phantasy Star IV had the hardest bosses for me, though PSIV was only hard because of a bugged emulator that forced me to beat a major boss in four turns before it would lock up.
It is an SE game, and the aerial combos were nice, but for a while I kept focusing on trying to get air combos, and that made things more difficult for me, so I started ignoring them and only getting them by coincidence.
And lastly, I ask for some clarification about something. I am getting confused about Seiken Densetsu 3. Is Seiken Densetsu 2 the one that is Secret of Mana, because I know that I played one of the translated roms from the series, but I couldn't remember the number, but I am pretty sure that it is the one that came after SOM.
I've heard that too. Never seen Gackt, but it wouldn't be surprising since he did the major songs for Dirge of Cerberus.
Well, I never made it to the end of IV. I played the PS remake of four and got to some boss towards the end of the game that was a pain in the ass because he would constantly instant kill characters, heal for around 40,000 every few turns and you could not cast reflect on him to stop the healing. I just ended up getting frustrated and moving on...I really should stop doing that with games.
Yes, FFIV, SMT:N and Phantasy Star IV had the hardest bosses for me, though PSIV was only hard because of a bugged emulator that forced me to beat a major boss in four turns before it would lock up.
It is an SE game, and the aerial combos were nice, but for a while I kept focusing on trying to get air combos, and that made things more difficult for me, so I started ignoring them and only getting them by coincidence.
And lastly, I ask for some clarification about something. I am getting confused about Seiken Densetsu 3. Is Seiken Densetsu 2 the one that is Secret of Mana, because I know that I played one of the translated roms from the series, but I couldn't remember the number, but I am pretty sure that it is the one that came after SOM.
Technically, the very first Seiken Densetsu was for Game Boy - it was brought over as Final Fantasy Land over here in the US, and was revamped on GBA as Sword of Mana.
Then came Seiken Densetsu 2 - Secret of Mana in the US. Then Seiken Densetsu 3, which is most likely the one you played. None of them are direct sequels though.
Oh, and Kevin FTW. That werewolf form is the most evil thing in the game.
Then came Seiken Densetsu 2 - Secret of Mana in the US. Then Seiken Densetsu 3, which is most likely the one you played. None of them are direct sequels though.
Oh, and Kevin FTW. That werewolf form is the most evil thing in the game.
Seiken Densetsu huh? I'll make a note of that.
I've only played Grandia III. Are the grandia series one continuous storyline or was it FF style, with each one having a separate universe?
La Pucelle Tactics LOL. I loved it! The comedy had me rolling in tears of laughter. But I had to put it down in favour of Makai Kingdom Might get back to it later.
I've played quite a few Atlus games before, but I've forgotten their titles now. Does anyone know the title of that old Atlus game about the puppeteer who plays a trumpet? I really enjoyed that one for some reason. There was nothing special about it but it gave out the same warm vibe I got from La Pucelle Tactics.
I've only played Grandia III. Are the grandia series one continuous storyline or was it FF style, with each one having a separate universe?
La Pucelle Tactics LOL. I loved it! The comedy had me rolling in tears of laughter. But I had to put it down in favour of Makai Kingdom
Might get back to it later. I've played quite a few Atlus games before, but I've forgotten their titles now. Does anyone know the title of that old Atlus game about the puppeteer who plays a trumpet? I really enjoyed that one for some reason. There was nothing special about it but it gave out the same warm vibe I got from La Pucelle Tactics.
Rhapsody: A Musical Adventure. Another Nippon Ichi game set in the Marl Kingdom, of which Disgaea is a spinoff. The trumpet player was Cornet Espoire, and her rival was Etoile Rosenqueen.
If you recall, Rosenqueen is the name of the chain of shops in many N1 games too. That's no coincidence - Etoile is filthy rich.
If you recall, Rosenqueen is the name of the chain of shops in many N1 games too. That's no coincidence - Etoile is filthy rich.
THAT'S IT! Rhapsody! Cornet Espoire....hahaha, now it's coming back to me. Now what was that purple pixie's name? hmm...
The princess auditions and that restaurant in the middle of the forest were really unforgettable.
Anyway, anyone ever played Chrono Cross? I think that was an SE game too and I found the 'innate' system particularly unique. The story was a bit of a hodgepodge at times and the large cast of PCs sort of confused me. But I could see they put in just as much effort into it as they did into the FF games of the time. Not too bad, for a non-FF SE game.
The princess auditions and that restaurant in the middle of the forest were really unforgettable.
Anyway, anyone ever played Chrono Cross? I think that was an SE game too and I found the 'innate' system particularly unique. The story was a bit of a hodgepodge at times and the large cast of PCs sort of confused me. But I could see they put in just as much effort into it as they did into the FF games of the time. Not too bad, for a non-FF SE game.
EDIT: I'm feeling generous today, so here's the links for all you need to play Seiken Densetsu 3:
http://emu-russia.km.ru/default.php?a=files&cid=1&sid=4&l=en
Get either SNES9x or ZSNES. Warning, ZSNES was updated to 1.50, and this new version may have broken some patches. If you can't get patched games to work on it anymore, either reinstall ZSNES 1.42 or let me know so I can send you the old version.
SNES9x has no such problem, and is the only Emu that can run some patches, notably Shin Megami Tensei and Ranma 1/2: Treasure of the Red Cat Gang.
http://www.planetemu.net/index.php?section...&dat=300&page=s
This is for the prepatched ROM. You'll want Neil Corlett's 1.01 patch, your pick whether to get the bugfixes one or the normal one. Since patching can be messy for a n00b, try using those first.
WARNING: Do NOT use download managers to DL the Planetemu roms. It won't work.
http://emu-russia.km.ru/default.php?a=files&cid=1&sid=4&l=en
Get either SNES9x or ZSNES. Warning, ZSNES was updated to 1.50, and this new version may have broken some patches. If you can't get patched games to work on it anymore, either reinstall ZSNES 1.42 or let me know so I can send you the old version.
SNES9x has no such problem, and is the only Emu that can run some patches, notably Shin Megami Tensei and Ranma 1/2: Treasure of the Red Cat Gang.
http://www.planetemu.net/index.php?section...&dat=300&page=s
This is for the prepatched ROM. You'll want Neil Corlett's 1.01 patch, your pick whether to get the bugfixes one or the normal one. Since patching can be messy for a n00b, try using those first.
WARNING: Do NOT use download managers to DL the Planetemu roms. It won't work.
The pixie's name was the same as that of Cornet's mom - Kururu. In fact, unless I'm mistaken, she IS Cornet's mom.
Ugh ugh ugh. Spew. Yuck.
Chrono Cross left a bad taste in my mouth. The Element system sucked, the characters left me 'meh' (Suikoden may have had lots of filler, but it was INTERESTING filler. CC had... Funguy. Die.), the story was a Frankenstein's monster that raped CT's canon continuity, and the whole Schala angle left me wanting to stab things.
The only cool thing in CC was Grobyc. Grobyc was badass.
Ugh ugh ugh. Spew. Yuck.
Chrono Cross left a bad taste in my mouth. The Element system sucked, the characters left me 'meh' (Suikoden may have had lots of filler, but it was INTERESTING filler. CC had... Funguy. Die.), the story was a Frankenstein's monster that raped CT's canon continuity, and the whole Schala angle left me wanting to stab things.
The only cool thing in CC was Grobyc. Grobyc was badass.
Hahaha, I knew somebody would say that, and you were on the top of the guess list.
I guess the reason why CC was ok for me was because I played it back when I was 12. It left ok memories, though I don't know what I'd think of it if I picked it up yesterday.
And thanks for the info. You're always generous, GH . Thanks again.
Though does anyone know where to download the English version of Seiken Densetsu 3 Toraneko mentioned? I only found the Japanese version on that site GH showed me. I don't think I should try my chances with my sloppy Hiragana and Katakana and my abysmal Kanji....
I guess the reason why CC was ok for me was because I played it back when I was 12. It left ok memories, though I don't know what I'd think of it if I picked it up yesterday.
And thanks for the info. You're always generous, GH
. Thanks again. Though does anyone know where to download the English version of Seiken Densetsu 3 Toraneko mentioned? I only found the Japanese version on that site GH showed me. I don't think I should try my chances with my sloppy Hiragana and Katakana and my abysmal Kanji....
AGHH!!! what's wrong with me?! I completely forgot about that link! I ended up searching for SD3 in the first Russian site and all of the versions they had were Japanese.
Agh....I gotta lay off the caffeine...and the fact that it's 4 AM in the morning isn't helping either.... :sweat:
Sorry for troubling you GH. And thanks again for the help. :lol:
Agh....I gotta lay off the caffeine...and the fact that it's 4 AM in the morning isn't helping either.... :sweat:
Sorry for troubling you GH. And thanks again for the help. :lol:
Final Fantasy Adventure, not Land. I have Sword of Mana myself, and it's at least decent, but not nearly as good as Seiken Densetsu 3.
Actually, with the possible exception of Legend of Mana, they all keep a continuity.
Secret of Mana (Seiken Densetsu 2) takes place some time after the events of Sword of Mana (Seiken Densetsu 1), while Seiken Densetsu 3 is a prequel that takes place long before the events of Sword of Mana.
With the way Legend of Mana works, it could take place long before, or long after all of those - assuming that it's even in the same continuity at all.
Hell yes. My favorite party is Kevin, Riesz, and Carlie. This does give the easiest boss, though, so it kinda makes me unfulfilled in a way.
edit: Since I'm feeling generous, I've packed the .zip files of ZSNES v1.42 and Seiken Densetsu 3 (pre-patched to Neil Corlett's English translation v1.01) into a single .zip and uploaded them to Rapidshare.
Here's the link.
Enjoy!
Actually, with the possible exception of Legend of Mana, they all keep a continuity.
Secret of Mana (Seiken Densetsu 2) takes place some time after the events of Sword of Mana (Seiken Densetsu 1), while Seiken Densetsu 3 is a prequel that takes place long before the events of Sword of Mana.
With the way Legend of Mana works, it could take place long before, or long after all of those - assuming that it's even in the same continuity at all.
Hell yes. My favorite party is Kevin, Riesz, and Carlie. This does give the easiest boss, though, so it kinda makes me unfulfilled in a way.
edit: Since I'm feeling generous, I've packed the .zip files of ZSNES v1.42 and Seiken Densetsu 3 (pre-patched to Neil Corlett's English translation v1.01) into a single .zip and uploaded them to Rapidshare.
Here's the link.
Enjoy!
Thanks, Toraneko. But I've gotten what I need from GH, but thanks anyway. Maybe someone else could make use of it. And who wouldn't? SD3 is just too good to pass up, especially when giftwrapped like that
I don't have the time to play right now as it's still the 'family holidays' period and I need to take part in the 'big happy family reunion'. Perhaps sometime after new year. Can't wait
I don't have the time to play right now as it's still the 'family holidays' period and I need to take part in the 'big happy family reunion'. Perhaps sometime after new year. Can't wait
Yeah...CC was a major let down for me. To take what Chrono Trigger was and turn it into...that was a major let down.
Though to it's credit, it did have one thing that all games with a second playthrough need...the fast forward button.
Hmmm...no one has brought up Xenogears in this thread, though opinions on that are either hit or miss. I personally liked it despite the movie that was the second disc, but that's just my opinion.
Though to it's credit, it did have one thing that all games with a second playthrough need...the fast forward button.
Hmmm...no one has brought up Xenogears in this thread, though opinions on that are either hit or miss. I personally liked it despite the movie that was the second disc, but that's just my opinion.