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sigfried27

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So having YRP suddenly stop to bath in a hotspring made sense considering their mission and characterization?
*gasp* You mean that a game/manga/anime had a hotspring scene!? I am shocked and appalled! What's next? A beach scene? A pool scene?
 

Ordo

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Let me see if I understand what you're saying. You're suggesting that it's perfectly fine to pull a drag chute and halt all forward progress in an interactive medium like say a videogame, to insert a pointless scene whose only purpse was to show off the girls in bikinis'. This is on top of all the other faffing about, and padding that goes on in this game?

And, it's not just the one scene, it's the games continual decisions to keep tossing fanservice at the player instead of anything interesting or meaningful.

I know you're trying to belittle the complaint by claiming that one scene isn't enough to condemne the game, and normally it's not. However when that scene is used as to show a problem that crops up throughout the game then it stands as a valid example of something that is wrong with the whole package.
 

Bill Felix

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GenocideHeart said:
That's why I'm not holding my breath for the FF13 sequels.
I'm looking forward to Versus XIII, tbh.

But before I was even aware of all the internet snark and caustic reviewers (when I was younger), here's what I thought:

-It is impossible to care about anything in FF8, because the characters are barely real. Everything felt false. Like they were going through the motions with dolls and then, something 'romantic' or something 'suspenseful' happened, merely because it was time for something 'romantic' and 'suspenseful' to happen. It felt fraudulent.

-FFX looked impressive and I liked the beginning because it had heavy metal and city destroying monsters in it. Then, the majority of the game settled down into this monotonous crap. I played all the way through because I was OCD about the completion. But looking back, when I picked up the controller, I barely remembered what was even happening in the game. Honestly, I forgot entirely about major parts of the plot because it was so repetitive. By the end of the game, I remembered maybe three temples, one of the Yuna kidnapping attempts, and two of the Seymour battles. So much of that plot is indistinguishable from itself due to how many times the same thing happens, over and over again. You meet all the playable characters in the first 10% of the game and then, encounter them later. Even the plot twists in that game are so stretched out and obvious that they fail to be entertaining. I liked the fight system and the somewhat repetitive enemies didn't bother me much, but what I listed above is what I truly remember about FFX.

As for FF9, I couldn't really take it seriously. As much as people give Tidus crap for being annoying, Vivi really takes the cake for me.

I only continued because the villain was some dominatrix chick who wore a thong.

:no:

A few days later, I visibly paled, put the controller down, and didn't come back.
 

Ordo

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As of yet I don't have a problem with Versus XIII, it looks like a an improved version of Kingdom Hearts 2 so I am fine with that.
 

FinalMax

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My problem with FFVIII was very simple: it put me to sleep. If your game can pass as a cure for insomnia, you got problems. The story was boring, and the music just knocked me out. And I'm talking about 1999, when I got the game to begin with. I literally found myself dozing off while playing. I'd get shocked awake when the game went from the overworld to combat.
 

Bill Felix

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Ordo said:
As of yet I don't have a problem with Versus XIII, it looks like a an improved version of Kingdom Hearts 2 so I am fine with that.
That and (as far as the trailer goes) the main characters aren't talking about love, destiny, or virtue. They're talking about political power and revenge.

Like the end of the subbed trailer.

Noctis: Do you have a plan to return the favor 10x more?

Ignis: I'm thinking of a revenge 100x back.
Actually got me kind of pumped to play it.

EDIT: There was a weird spot earlier in the trailer. When Noctis sees the woman in the dance hall, it was an exact replica of the scene where Squall saw Rinoa in FF8. Hopefully it won't go down that path.
 

sigfried27

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*gasp* You mean that a game/manga/anime had a hotspring scene!? I am shocked and appalled! What's next? A beach scene? A pool scene?
Let me see if I understand what you're saying. You're suggesting that it's perfectly fine to pull a drag chute and halt all forward progress in an interactive medium like say a videogame, to insert a pointless scene whose only purpse was to show off the girls in bikinis'. This is on top of all the other faffing about, and padding that goes on in this game?

I know you're trying to belittle the complaint by claiming that one scene isn't enough to condemne the game, and normally it's not. However when that scene is used as to show a problem that crops up throughout the game then it stands as a valid example of something that is wrong with the whole package.
Wow, I said all of that with one sarcastic sentence? I'm damn amazing!

Ah, the internet, putting words in other people's mouths since it's creation.
 

Avider

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sigfried27 said:
*gasp* You mean that a game/manga/anime had a hotspring scene!? I am shocked and appalled! What's next? A beach scene? A pool scene?
Let me see if I understand what you're saying. You're suggesting that it's perfectly fine to pull a drag chute and halt all forward progress in an interactive medium like say a videogame, to insert a pointless scene whose only purpse was to show off the girls in bikinis'. This is on top of all the other faffing about, and padding that goes on in this game?

I know you're trying to belittle the complaint by claiming that one scene isn't enough to condemne the game, and normally it's not. However when that scene is used as to show a problem that crops up throughout the game then it stands as a valid example of something that is wrong with the whole package.
Wow, I said all of that with one sarcastic sentence? I'm damn amazing!

Ah, the internet, putting words in other people's mouths since it's creation.
Its.
 

Souffle

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Croaker said:
Y'alls just tsundere for FFX-2.
I'm all deredere thank you very much
 

Ordo

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And Square-Enix with the <a href='http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/08/01/true-crime-revived-by-square-enix.aspx' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>save.</a>

This earns some good will from me.
 

Ordo

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Square-Enix you publishd Deus Ex: HR which has proven to be a fun game that felt like more of a Deus Ex game than 'Invisible War'. For that you have my thanks, and a promise to at least rent FF 13-2 or whatever they are calling it now.
 

Ordo

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<a href='http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/09/09/square-enix-planning-ahead-for-final-fantasy-xiii-3.aspx' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Final Fantasy XIII-3</a> rumor.
 
Ordo said:
<a href='http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/09/09/square-enix-planning-ahead-for-final-fantasy-xiii-3.aspx' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Final Fantasy XIII-3</a> rumor.
Fuck dudes, just quit that shit and send people to work on Versus, or is the company that afraid Nomura will make them look like complete crap if his games turns out to be a masterpiece and are trying to sabotage him?
 

atlas_hugged

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I could tolerate the irony when the series itself never ended, but now the individual games in the series are turning into their own series and never ending. Final Fantasy just can't ethically be called Final anymore.
 

shiki

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God Freaking Damn it.

FF Vesus 13 is looking to be vaporware already with how long it is taking them to get on with it.
 

Legacy|iB

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Ordo said:
<a href='http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/09/09/square-enix-planning-ahead-for-final-fantasy-xiii-3.aspx' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Final Fantasy XIII-3</a> rumor.
Well, it's just a domain registration. Domain registrations happen all the time, and a lot of it happens for defensive reasons - a bit like how Microsoft recently registered 'microsoft-sony.com' and 'sony-microsoft.com', not because they're teaming up with Sony for something, but because they don't want a third-party to misuse them.

Also, considering how much trouble Activision got into when a Battlefield 3 fanboy managed to grab ModernWarfare3.com, I figure Square-Enix wants to be safe and grab up anything obvious sounding just in case.
 

Antimatter

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Honestly, 13-2 is shaping up fairly well so far, looks like they took a lot of the criticism to heart.

As for whats taking FF V-13 so long, I think they may have had to do some plot rearranging to make it fit with 13-2 as well as the PSP one.

That and the engine took forever to complete, so I doubt it was majorly in development till around FF13's completion.

What I really want to see if a major push by them for PSVita development. They were easily one of the best PSP developers, and i'd like to see what they can do with the PSV.
 

Ordo

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Antimatter said:
Honestly, 13-2 is shaping up fairly well so far, looks like they took a lot of the criticism to heart.

As for whats taking FF V-13 so long, I think they may have had to do some plot rearranging to make it fit with 13-2 as well as the PSP one.

That and the engine took forever to complete, so I doubt it was majorly in development till around FF13's completion.

What I really want to see if a major push by them for PSVita development. They were easily one of the best PSP developers, and i'd like to see what they can do with the PSV.
13-2 looks like something I currently might be willing to pay for once the reviews are out and the price comes down. So it's on my list, but not a primary concern (unlike Skyrim, & Mass Effect 3) and is currently ahead of Diablo 3 but that's because of Blizzards online policy more than anything. If I'm given no reason to avoid the game I'll likely pickup 13-2 sometime next summer around the same time I grab 'Kingdoms of Amalur the Reckoning'.
 

Souffle

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Antimatter said:
Honestly, 13-2 is shaping up fairly well so far, looks like they took a lot of the criticism to heart.

As for whats taking FF V-13 so long, I think they may have had to do some plot rearranging to make it fit with 13-2 as well as the PSP one.

That and the engine took forever to complete, so I doubt it was majorly in development till around FF13's completion.

What I really want to see if a major push by them for PSVita development. They were easily one of the best PSP developers, and i'd like to see what they can do with the PSV.
IIRC they took the psp one right out of the fabulous nova crystalis thing so it's now it's own game.
 
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