The Golden Rule

snthsnth said:
I remembered incorrectly, so I did some reading.

The Systems Alliance has a ban on adding new traits to existing creatures, although adjusting existing traits is allowed. For example, in humans increasing muscle mass is okay, adding IR vision isn't.

Creating new sentient life is illegal by Systems Alliance and Citadel law. Most areas allow the creation of original life. (terraforming viruses, etc)

Mass Effect itself is somewhat contradictory, stating that the Citadel doesn't allow general genemodding, but they allow it for research and medical purposes. Medigel apparently 'slipped past the restrictions', even though they don't seem to apply to it.

So there seems to be 'international' restrictions that may or may not apply to the Imperium, but they're never actually shown in the game.

Either way, I wouldn't be surprised if human crops were genemodded regularly to whatever effect was needed for the planet that they're growing on.

Also, adding 20ish new organs to a person is bound to be against some Citadel law, although I doubt that the Citadel is very likely to find out about that unless some human tells them.
Like I said earlier, the Emperor himself is likely against significant gene-modding that could "taint" the natural gene pool of Mankind, seeing as his entire purpose is to safeguard the natural evolution of Humanity into a psychic race that would rival the Eldar in power and ability.

Observe, for instance, Space Marines. Full out gene modification based on the founding Primarch, followed by biological and surgical organs and enhancements and then honed to a keen edge by rigorous training and hypnotherapy/conditioning. Directly designed by the Emperor as Humanity's Bulwark against the Terror. But the most important thing is that the Emperor designed them to be separate from Man. Born of Humanity, yet Human no more. No chance of Primarch DNA filtering back into the gene pool and derailing Human evolution.

Interesting point came to my mind. Most contacts and interactions with aliens have been handled by Astartes, correct? As in, they have a clear leadership role in the interactions. Could it be that the Emperor is hoping to also preserve Human culture and unity by minimizing exposure of standard humans to the "taint" of alien cultural influence? Astartes, due to the heavy psycho-conditioning required to create them, are very unlikely to be corrupted/bought off/blackmailed/subverted by whatever schemes aliens could pull, unlike normal humans (which is the only way any intelligence agency could pull off espionage against Humanity, considering a Xenos on an Imperial planet is probably observed at every instant by the Ordo Xenos).

I'm half asleep and not very coherent... don't mind me.
 

snthsnth

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My point is that the Astartes should be quite illegal assuming that the Citadel's antigenemodding laws are similar to those of the Systems Alliance, BUT they aren't going to find out unless they're told.

Modified crops are much more likely to cause trouble if anything will, but this would be less consequential overall.

Also, you forget that all outbound trade is handled by baseline humans, internal trade is handled by the Astartes.

I doubt the Inquisition exists anymore, but if it does it's likely been toned down greatly. What with the lack of Chaos cults, Genestealers, and the like.
 

SEG-CISR

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You know how people always think English professors look further into books than the authors ever did while writing?

... Hmm.

Regardless, I do have responses for them queries and comments... But not now. My phone is enough of a bitch normally, and it's 2:45.
 
I'd think that the Inquisition would be restructured to work as the Imperial intelligence agency. Ordo Xeno is experienced in fending off infiltration by things like Genestealers. Salarians are a joke compared to that, but still need fending off. Ordo Hereticus can be repurposed to fighting organized crime and terrorists, being an internal intelligence agency. Ordo Malleus would probably be turned into a dedicated anti-Chaos research department in case they come back.

The other Ordos are a bit obscure, but can usually be converted into sane organisations.

Btw, can you tell us how the administratum works now? Do they still have the Feudal system with planetary governors or did they get rid of them?
 

SEG-CISR

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No. It's more of a Communist authoritarian dictatorship. The administration's ridiculous bureaucracy is still there, so as to run everything, but without lost colonies everywhere it's a lot more manageable. The Emperor sits at the top, and appoints Primarchs and especially skilled humans to leadership position as time goes on, so as to keep a lid on corruption. Given how many colonies and thus leadership positions there are, he's still a pretty busy guy, but he rarely misses abuses of power given how much he takes note of the government.

Humanity has pretty much embraced space-communism, possibly because of how much farming means to them. It's kinda like what WH40k canon is like in how they act like crops are god (God-Emperor notwithstanding), and occasionally go on pilgrimages to the first great farmworld.
 

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Hot off the press, unbeta'd and everything.

A chuckle rang through the bridge, breaking a terse silence. All of the pirates within it turned towards the pilot abruptly, bringing their weapons to bear as he leaned back on his throne. Cybernetics that were temporarily connecting him to the ship physically glittered as he slowly turned to the leader, Brokad.

The Batarian's eyes narrowed as he looked down at the pilot, then at the screens showing read-outs for the ship's systems and sensors. ôWhat's so funny, two-eyes?ö

He gestured at the stations in front of him with a grin. ôOh, nothing much to worry about. It's just that it looks like the Navy's here.ö

There was silence, before a rifle smacked into the pilot's face. ôWhat did you do!?ö Brokad growled.

ôWhy do you presume that I had to do anything? The Imperium has safeguards in place... especially on a ship full of Xenos,ö the human pointed out, raising an eyebrow. ôSo, what are you going to do now?ö

ôYou are going to set us on course to the nearest Mass Relay, so we can get the hell out of here.ö

ôWell, Brokad,ö stammered the Batarian sitting to their immediate side. He was looking into a multitude of terminals displaying what the sensors saw around the ship. ôThe human reinforcements are coming in from the Mass Relay. So we need another way out.ö

The leader stepped back, rubbing a forearm over his face. ôWhat does it entail?ö

ôIt looks like a Battleship.ö The pilot leaned forward to look at his own screens as the Batarian looming over him thought over the situation.

ôSo in that case, it must be very slow. Hence... we can get behind the planet, and wait until it tries to come around to make a run for it.ö

Grakesh, turning back to the hostages lest they become rowdy, voiced his doubts. ôBut what if they have ships beyond the relay?ö

ôThen we make a jump to get out of there; anything bigger than us is not fast enough to catch up, and anything smaller we can take care of,ö Brokad answered, leaning onto the pilot's throne. The human glared up at him distastefully, before turning back to his sensors.

ôThey don't have to catch up... what if they shoot us down?ö

The small Batarian beside Brokad shook his head. ôNo, they wouldn't. There's too much stuff in here for them to just try that, and anything with the right payload to disable us wouldn't get through the ships.ö

ôShields can be depleted,ö Grakesh offered.

ôEventually. We can gamble on this,ö Brokad decided.

ôHow so?ö The pilot raised an eyebrow, grin splitting his face. ôWhy even gamble if you'll lose even if you succeed?ö He was smacked in the face with the pirate's rifle, but that didn't change his expression.

ôI don't think they'll shoot enough to take down the shields, because we can turn them off. The payload required to get through them is likely enough to blow the ship up... or at least seriously damage it and its cargo.ö

Merk looked up from his sitting position on a far wall. As there was nothing for him to do, he'd taken to resting several minutes before. ôWhy the hell would we shut off the shields?ö

ôThey don't know who we are, nor what our motivations are. As far as they know we could just be seeking to crash the ship into the planet, or want to get blown up. We might just be terrorists in their eyes... so they'll be careful.ö

Merk scratched the top of his head. ôWhat if they board us? Can they do that?ö

The short techy Batarian spoke up. ôThey can't, unless they're gonna do it with a Cruiser or something. The Battleship is too slow, unless we fly right at it, and their Frigates and Fighters aren't enough to get past the ship's defenses.ö

Brokad was quiet for a moment, before turning to the pilot. ôBut there's more to this, isn't there? What the hell's so funny, human?ö

ôYou stupid Xenos don't know what you're messing with,ö he chuckled darkly. ôThat's not a Battleship. That's an Astartes Battle Barge. They will board this ship. Then they will kill every one of you, and go on to burn every one of your worlds.ö

ôAstartes... the male soldiers?ö Brokad scoffed.

ôYou don't even know what you're talking about. It's almost sad, how little you know of your betters.ö The pilot shook his head with a grin.

ôHey, boss...ö Merk started as his group's leader smashed his weapon into the back of the human's head. ôI don't know...ö

Grakesh shook his head with a groan. ôDon't pussy out. We've gone so far, already, and now you want to give up?ö

The pirate stood up, snarling. ôPussy out? Don't give me that shit, you damn brute. I've got a family. If what he's saying is true, then there's a lot more to this than just our lives.ö

The other Batarian turned to him completely, hefting his weapon dangerously. ôSo that's all it takes? Some useless human's empty threats, and now you want to give up? All the years of planning, all that's taken for us to get here? You're pathetic.ö

Merk growled. ôBig words for an animal; you're just doing this for the violence, so don't tell me that I'm pathetic for being reluctant to lose my family. I'm doing it for them.ö

Brokad broke in. ôBoth of you, shut up!ö He barked. ôMerk, don't you dare go weak now. You should have considered the risks before we got to this point.ö

ôA Battleship, boss! They could take out a continent by crashing that ship into it.ö

The pilot peered back at the bantering Batarians for a moment, before turning to the controls. The slight movements weren't noticeable by the three pirates, but the hostages along the walls perked up as they saw him move.

ôWhat's he doing?ö

ôThere's a ship coming... he's probably going towards it.ö

ôThank the Emperor... finally, all this is going to end.ö

The whispers went unheard by the arguing Batarians, but the one sitting near the pilot idly looked to the side, and saw him furiously typing away.

ôB-boss! He's doing something!ö The pirate stood up, bringing a pistol up and shooting. The first shot got the human on the thigh, eliciting a grunt of pain.

The sound of a mass of tungsten breaking the sound barrier caught the attention of the other Batarians if the scream hadn't. In a moment, three weapons were pointed at the pilot and unloading.

In a few seconds, Brokad stopped, and slapped his accomplices' weapons down. They were left staring at a mangled corpse laid out over the controls.

ôShit... without him there's no way to pilot this ship...ö the techy pirate mumbled, face taking on an alarmed expression.

The leader, trying to keep his cool, punched his subordinates and pointed at the hostages. ôGet back to work! Mangruk, check on the systems. What the hell was he doing?ö

The Batarian followed his boss' orders without hesitation, taking a seat on his station once more. He typed into his omni-tool, and rapidly looked between it and the terminals in front of him.

ôHe was... putting in some commands for moving the ship. He managed to switch the power to the engines to full thrust, but he didn't have time to change the vectors to turn towards, I'd reckon, the Battleship.ö

ôSo now we're flying off into space at full speed?ö

Mangruk peered closely at the monitors. ôOkay, let me see. This... we're headed for... the planet?ö

A single moment of horrified silence, before Brokad spoke. ôWhy the hell are we headed there, if he didn't have time to fully change the vectors?ö

ôIt has to do with the way these ships are piloted. I don't really understand why they made it this way, but there's nothing I can do. Even a glancing hit on the planet will evaporate us and everything around the crash site, and we're headed straight towards it. We need to leave; if this ship were smaller we'd be able to survive a landing, but that's not the case.ö

ôShit... alright, we have to go, then. Grakesh! Kill the hostages to make sure we're not followed; we're getting to an escape pod. Merk! Grab the Captain and get the location of the escape pods out of him!ö

But chapter 4 isn't over yet. One more scene.
 

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Ooh!

I've got fanart! GR fanart! I'm so proud that it's good enough that someone's decided to draw and stuff. :3





Both courtesy of djibriel at Spacebattles. I love my readers. :wub:
 

snthsnth

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The Batarian's eyes narrowed as he looked down at him, then at the screens
This should be changed to something like 'down at the human' or 'the pilot' for clarity. Mostly because the pilot is on a throne, which implies that it's a raised position. It confused me a little on my second read-through.
ôWhy the hell are we headed there, if he didn't have time to fully change the vectors?ö

ôIt has to do with the way these ships are piloted. If this ship were smaller, we could've survived the crash, but even a glancing hit on a planet will evaporate us and everything around the crash site.ö
The second line has two unrelated thoughts in it, but there's no division between them. I inferred that an explanation was about to be given, but it wasn't there. You need to divide it into two paragraphs or place a word that changes the subject. '...ships are piloted. Anyways, if this ship were...'

'Regardless' would also work.
ôYou don't even know what you're talking about. It's almost sad, how little you know of your betters.ö The pilot shook his head with a grin.
Adding the 'even' makes the pilot sound even more condescending, I'd recommend it.

Overall, it's a solid update, I can hardly wait for more.

EDIT: Quick question, why would a larger ship be destroyed when a smaller one would not?
 

SEG-CISR

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Ooh, constructive comments!

Well, a throne doesn't necessarily have to be raised very high. Just because it's a throne doesn't mean it's raised atop a podium six feet tall. It's a small throne, and this isn't one of those crazy, I-AM-THE-SHIP pilots, but connected in a less insane way.

Ah, I'll fix that sentence. I'd seen it myself, but decided to ignore it since I speak like that a lot. Maybe... that's why I have to repeat myself so much for people to understand me -_-

Ooh, condescension is good. Why, thank you.

As to size/explosiveness: Well, from my rudimentary physics knowledge, a Cruiser-sized ship is... very massive, and despite not being as fast as, say, a Fighter, it's... very many times heavier. Whereas a fighter might be able to crash-land, or skid for a few dozen kilometers after hitting the ground... a 4km-long mass of steel wouldn't do so well. The impact between the ground and it wouldn't be very pretty.
 

snthsnth

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As for the pilot, it's mostly because you actually have the I-AM-THE-SHIP types that you need to specify. His position hadn't been established in the previous snippets. Also, his throne would only need to be raised about two feet for his head to be at about 6'4", assuming he's about 6' tall.

As for the crashing, I would see it as similar to a motorcycle vs car vs tank deal. A crash at 100 clicks is lethal on the motorcycle, gravely injuring in the car, and really painful in the tank. (assuming the tank has some kind of crash restraint)

The 4km cruiser has durability and momentum in it's favor. It will take longer to decelerate, and is also capable of losing more of it's mass as a skid brake, as not all of the decks are in use, and the armor is thicker.

I'd also assume that a deck that's pretty far from the impact point would have a far lower chance of receiving damage, as the rest of the ship would act as a shock absorber.

A better explanation would be one you've already started: Superfreighters keep the crew and the bridge in the bow. Given the prow shape of Imperium ships there would be almost no chance of survival in planetary impact (for the new bridge) unless the bow could be kept raised for the entirety of the crash. Otherwise it's going to dig into the planet, destroying the bow, then the stern will rise up and the ship will start flipping end over end.
 

SEG-CISR

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Uh, I guess I'll just cut out the "throne" bit and say he's just sitting there with wifi connections to the ship.

Also, what? No, that's not right. It wouldn't dig a hole then topple like the titanic. Think about it this way: a modern USN aircraft carrier weighs, give or take, 100,000 metric tons, and is about 300 meters long. They float. An Imperial Cruiser of any sort is ten times as long, and doesn't have to float over water. Hence, I feel safe saying any of them would be at least ten times as heavy, although realistically much more, as they are both wider and taller.

So we have a mass, even if a speed is still up in the air, but could we assume something like... way over 10km/s. Doing some maths puts together a pretty crazy picture about what the consequences of an impact would be, but I don't feel like doing calculations when I know what the end result will be: Lots of energy released, no ship anymore.

This isn't a rock falling on the ground. This is something on an extinction-event scale.
 

snthsnth

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Eh, I'd leave the pilot-throne in, although a WiFi pilot would show that the Imperium has technologically advanced since they arrived in the MEverse.

A cruiser is naturally more durable than a fighter. It should be capable of taking and imparting far more destructive force. If a smaller vessel would survive, the cruiser should too. If the cruiser would be destroyed, the smaller one would as well.

The difference planetside is another matter, obviously. While a cruiser would be extinction level, a fighter would at the very least be nuclear level.

My idea of a survivable crash landing is like that Star Trek Generations bit with the Enterprise skimming the planet, bleeding momentum. In theory, it would be survivable for a cruiser or a fighter. That's what I was basing my example on. If it's more of a direct hit then there is no chance for survival at all.

However, the main issue is complete lack of control, there is no way that a fighter or cruiser is going to crash safely without control.

I agree that the cruiser would be much heavier, it's longer, wider, and taller, more thickly armored, made of scifi metallium, AND it's a battling ship, not a armored mobile supply depot.

BTW, the flipping end over end bit was deliberate exaggeration.
 

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... Useless beta! But also, here's the last piece of chapter 4. Enjoy. ^_^

ôCome on... wake up!ö Bloodshot eyes opened abruptly, and a fist swung out erratically. The one to disturb the attacker flinched, moving away from the reaching hand, and called out once more. ôJohn, calm down!ö

John stood quickly, eyes roving over his surroundings but not seeing much of anything. Around him stood a handful of humans, rapidly backing away from him. ôJohn, calm down! You're among friends,ö another one attempted.

The man simply growled gutturally. ôDamn it, sir, get a hold of yourself! We're all humans here!ö

This seemed to make something click in his mind. John blinked slowly, two times, before glaring around once more. ôWhere the hell am I?ö

ôWe're in the catacombs. The pirates threw us down in the old cells when they decided keeping us pacified was too much work,ö the man who had awakened him supplied. John straightened, staring at him.

ôChief Engineer...ö His eyes narrowed. ôToo much work? Those damn Xenos were killing people up there, why would they want to bring you down here?ö As a Commissar, John was always wary of his own men rebelling. Not seeing sense in his explanation, he took a stance, resting his weight on his right foot as he drew it back.

The older-looking human saw that, and panicked. ôHey, hey, chill out!ö He raised his hands in horror at the prospect of being attacked by the man while he was in full control of his faculties.

Another human broke in. ôI know it might not seem to make sense, but I think they just want some hostages. Some of us are quite widely-known... Chief Engineer Terlin, Lieutenant Froman... youself, Commissar.ö

Terlin nodded frantically, adding, ôThere's no knowing when they'll place the crew they captured wherever and come back to us... they'll probably want to torture us for information on the Imperium. We can't fight; we need to leave!ö

John growled. ôLet them come; those bastards still have my wife, and my daughter...ö He closed his eyes tightly as he paused, before glaring at the Engineer again. ôI'll kill them!ö

A short, blond man spoke up, pushing himself off of a wall. ôDon't be stupid, Commissar! Your family may be lost already. I was brought in at the same time as you, and they sure didn't seem very happy with your wife when she broke formation; I very much doubt there'll be a happy ending for her... but there might be one, for us!ö He walked up to the much taller man, frowning. ôYou're the only one with extensive combat experience among us. We need you to get out of here.ö

ôUs? When did this become about 'us'?ö John glared down his long nose at the short blond. ôLieutenant, I don't think you want to get in between me and my wife.ö

ôYour dead wife, John! Either way, Catherine will die. If you go out for her, they'll kill her, same as Ana!ö

With a thud, Lieutenant Froman crashed into a group of men standing by the far wall. He coughed wetly as he was helped up, clutching his chest. ôFace facts, you old idiot... I know what you did in Ultima Segmentum. Most brutal commissar they'd seen there in centuries, and now this? Attacking fellow humans because you don't want to see the truth.ö The shorter human glared up at the grizzled soldier, his ire magnified by those all around him.

John slowly let his left fist lower, glaring down at the ground. ôFine. I will get you out... but only to get you to your damn escape shuttle. Then I'm going back to kill all these bastards, before they're all killed by our reinforcements.ö

ôWhat's to say we have reinforcements, John?ö The Chief Engineer's voice was low, this time.

He didn't respond, only staring at the older-looking man.

There was silence among the group, as John turned to the gated area between them and escape. ôThis is all we need to get past... but it's probably made of material too strong to break.ö

Froman limped towards the cell's exit, rummaging through his slacks' pockets as he peered down at the lock. ôWe don't need to break anything... I have a way out.ö

ôWhat the hell do you need me for, then?ö

ôProtection. All the other soldiers are dead, John. You're the only one that can beat those brutes in a straight fight... and more than a few of them at the same time, too.ö He smirked at him from the side, pulling a key from his pants.

ôYou have a key?ö Terlin blinked in befuddlement, breaking into the conversation. ôThey didn't search you?ö

ôNo... after the ruckus he caused, they just threw us both away.ö He pushed the gate open, and gave the Commissar an appraising look. ôI even managed to sneak away a weapon of sorts...ö He reached into the back of his pants, and pulled out a large dagger. ôNot quite a chainsword, but it trust it'll do?ö

John grabbed it out of his hands quickly, stepping out of the cell without a word. ôIt will. Come, I want to get you to the pod, and then be on my way.ö

Terlin was the first one out, rushing past Froman as he spoke. ôJohn, this way. And how's the arm?ö

The Commissar followed the directions, moving down the cavernous catacomb hall in a rush. The men behind him had to almost jog to keep up, but did not complain. ôI don't know what you mean, Chief Engineer.ö

ôYour right arm.ö John recoiled, realizing what the older man meant. He subconsciously stored his blade and reached for his shoulder with his left hand, looking down. Instead of the mass of sinew and crushed bone barely held together by the cloth from his coat, all he could see at the moment was cloth. ôWe couldn't salvage it, so we took some clothes and did the best we could to make it hold together. You can't move it, I don't think, but you also can't feel it. Doctor Jonage managed to disable the nerves leading there, so it shouldn't be too much of a setback. Your torso is riddled with wounds, but it shouldn't slow you down any more.ö

The Commissar absently nodded, leading the group through hall after hall with the Chief Engineer's directions. They never left the catacombs, knowing that was where the main force of Pirates was prowling, even if John kept trying to veer towards the brighter, main hallways of the ship.

They were silent, and so was the ship; there were no humans nor Batarians, alive or not, in their path, as they moved towards the escape pod... until they got there.

A single Batarian crewmember, wearing worker's slacks and nursing a large black bruise covering most of the side of his face, stood by the exit to their escape. Although also having four eyes, he did not seem to be at all hostile, just a bit lost.

John did not care, however. Non-human meant hostile in his books, given the situation, especially if it also meant Batarian, so he lunged forwards. His footfalls were loud as he sprinted towards his target, but the alien did not seem to notice, until one of the humans called out.

ôDammit, John, that's not a pirate!ö The cry went unheeded by the soldier, even if the alien heard it loud and clear. He looked towards the sound, noticing the sizeable group of humans, including the one rapidly nearing him. All four eyes widened, and it recoiled, a scream beginning to form. However, begin was all it was allowed to do, before a blade stabbed into the cartilage in the middle of its eyes. It was torn out, then back in at the top of its head.

The old Commissar continued to stab his target, and had managed to do so half a dozen times before it hit the ground. John barely held his contempt and desire to follow it down in check as the Batarian crashed into a puddle of its own green blood.

Froman ran up to him, looking down at the alien in horror. ôDammit, John... that guy wasn't hostile!ö

ôNo one will wonder about a dead Xeno.ö

The Lieutenant eyed him uncertainly, before turning back to the humans. ôWell, either way. Let's go in the pod, everyone. Chief Engineer... you go first, and get it ready.ö

ôYes, sir.ö A semblance of order was regained as the Lieutenant brought back the order of command to the humans, and the dead Batarian at their feet was quickly forgotten as they began to file into the large door in the wall.

Froman was the last, peering into the expansive room lit up in red, much like the rest of the catacombs. It reached perhaps a hundred meters back, and was nearly a dozen wide. There was more than enough space for a thousand people in there... but he knew nowhere near that many were going to join them. They'd be left behind, until reinforcements arrived.

He looked back at the old Commissar from the entrance, watching him for a moment before speaking. ôYou don't want to come inside.ö

ôNo.ö

ôI meant what I said; Catherine is likely not alive anymore. There is no point in staying; the Imperium needs men like you alive. If the Batarians come across you again... you're not coming out of that.ö

John looked down, hefting the dagger with his left hand. ôI know. I don't care. I will have my revenge.ö

ôHave it later, then! There will be repercussions... these aren't just pirates. What some of them have said... I have no doubt they're in their government's employ. Many of these seem to be special forces. Soldiers. More privateers than mere pirates. Come along... and you'll be able to watch their worlds burn. There is no sense in wasting another life here.ö

The soldier turned around abruptly, glaring at the shorter man. ôSoldiers? You're saying... these aren't criminals. These damn Xenos... all of them... are attacking the Imperium, as if there were no repercussions? As if we'd just lay down and give in to their demands?ö

Froman made to respond, but was interrupted by voices from a nearby hall.

ôI think there are others nearby. Perhaps it is Jeerak's group?ö

ôDoubtful. They'd be much louder... there are many of them, after all.ö

ôWell, boss, what do you think we should do?ö

ôGrakesh, you're sure they aren't Jeerak's?ö

ôCan't be sure, boss.ö

ôFine... but it's them. No one else could've made it down here. Hey, Jeerak!ö The voice bellowed. ôAs you might be aware, you're sitting near an escape pod! Or inside it! Open up, and we'll get the hell out of here... this ship's going to crash!ö

John and Froman were silent for a moment, before the Lieutenant's face contorted into a horrified visage. ôCrash?ö

ôThese fuckers...ö The Commissar seemed a moment away from apoplectic rage. ôThey plan to destroy one of the Emperor's farmworlds!ö He turned towards the hall, but the smaller man pulled him back.

ôNo! Come inside, we need you!ö

ôI will avenge this planet!ö John roared, pulling away. He stepped out from the doorway, and raised his arm. ôXenos! I-ö

A muffled explosion, that of something breaking the sound barrier, sounded a moment before John flew back into the pod, collapsing on top of Froman.

ôEmperor's pants!ö The Lieutenant cried in surprise, pushing the soldier off of him. ôTerlin!ö

ôGot it!ö The door slid shut, before the sounds of mass effect-driven projectiles hitting it rang through the pod. A moment later, they were joined by that of engines, and suddenly, there was no noise, only the rumbling of the rockets propelling them through space.

ôWe're out?ö A tall, dark-skinned man questioned, looking around the windowless pod.

ôNo sound means we're in space... thank the Emperor.ö

ôSo... what do we do now?ö

The humans, as one, looked at the Lieutenant, who himself was looking down at the groaning Commissar on the floor.

ôWell, we need to see if his wounds are particularly bad. Then... we wait for pick-up.ö

--I--

The pick-up came eventually, but rather abruptly. All they knew was that the pod shook, and suddenly they could hear things from outside again. Something crashed against the door, and a voice rang through the walls.

ôHUMANS OR ENEMIES?ö

There was no time to respond before the door, and some of the fuselage around it caved in. From the new hole in the pod strode an enormous armored figure.

ôEmperor's name... an Astartes!ö The humans stood up to greet the Imperium's protectors, who waved them off.

ôSO YOU'RE HUMANS. GOOD. THIS IS THE ONLY ESCAPE POD FROM THE SUPERFREIGHTER, SERGEANT.ö The Space Marine turned towards the hole, gesturing for the men gathered in there to leave.

ôTHE ONLY SURVIVORS FROM THIS ATTACK ON OUR BEAUTIFUL IMPERIUM... FIFTEEN MEN. WHO WERE THE CULPRITS?ö The Sergeant stood in the brightly-lit hangar, almost as tall as the escape pod in his gleaming yellow armor.

ôAstartes, sir... they were Batarians,ö Lieutenant Froman supplied. There was silence from the enormous superhuman for a moment, before a horrible sound tore through the area. The humans from the pod clutched at their ears in pain, as the Space Marine made his rage known to the universe.

ôFUCKING XENOS, THEY DEFILE OUR BEAUTIFUL FARMWORLD! BROTHERS, TAKE THESE CITIZENS TO REST; I WILL BE CONTACTING HOLY TERRA. THEY DARE... MILLIONS DEAD! WE WILL HAVE OUR REVENGE!ö Pauldrons heaving in passionate rage, the Space Marine turned to leave the expansive, empty hangar, before a (comparatively) small voice from the pod stopped him in its tracks.

The hate in it was enough to stop even the Emperor's warrior, who turned as a man stepped out from behind the first Astartes to speak to the survivors.

ôLet me have my revenge as well, Astartes.ö

ôWHO THE HELL ARE YOU?ö

ôI am John. Commissar John Fuklaw.ö

The Sergeant stepped back after getting a glimpse of the man's face, contorted with rage. ôVERY WELL, WE WILL ALLOW YOU TO DO SO. IT SEEMS YOU HAVE THE ZEAL, AT THE VERY LEAST. THE ANGRY MARINES WILL ALLOW YOU TO SERVE ALONGSIDE THEM, COMMISSAR FUKLAW.ö

^_^
 

Zetas

Lurking upon the deep
Angry Marines?!! Great, now i'm seeing a Krogan used as an "Improvised Melee" weapon.
 

snthsnth

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Now the only question is whether the Bats will get Imperial Mercy or Imperial Vengeance, since it's the Emperor's choice of course. The end result will be pretty similar for the Bats methinks, death by Exterminatus or by legions of Angry Marines.

If the Bats don't get totally wiped out Emps will probably cut them off from food totally, and they seem to be the type to rely on imports.

Are the Angry Marines watered down slightly, or are they still FURIOUS at EVERYTHING!!!! I only ask, because there were no references to badgers, cunts, or dicks, and that seems to be a staple of their vocabulary.
 

SEG-CISR

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snthsnth said:
Now the only question is whether the Bats will get Imperial Mercy or Imperial Vengeance, since it's the Emperor's choice of course. The end result will be pretty similar for the Bats methinks, death by Exterminatus or by legions of Angry Marines.

If the Bats don't get totally wiped out Emps will probably cut them off from food totally, and they seem to be the type to rely on imports.

Are the Angry Marines watered down slightly, or are they still FURIOUS at EVERYTHING!!!! I only ask, because there were no references to badgers, cunts, or dicks, and that seems to be a staple of their vocabulary.
The lack of cunts and badgers in the dialogue is in no way a means of detracting from their overall anger, but rather a tweak I've made; they're the angry marines, not the needlessly uncouth marines. Besides, /tg/'s version is entirely too silly, for profanity doth not anger make.

Either way, canonically the Batarians, as of ME1 and ME2, are more-or-less completely cut off from the galactic community. Supposedly, the only transmissions coming out of Batarian space are their Fascist propaganda, and nothing goes in. I'd imagine that goes for goods as well.
 

Tsukino_kage

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Then it's perfect, no one can or will help them when the exterminatus comes.

Exterminatus now! We want blood, not for the blood god, but for ourselves.
 

snthsnth

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Canonically, the Bats were pissed because humans were colonizing systems they wanted and the Council wouldn't side with them. The Elysium incident happened later, after several other raids.

These raiders and slavers were funded and equipped by the Bats. In one of the ME1 DLCs a Paragon can save a suicidal escaped Batarian slave on the Normandy's dock at the Citadel. Clearly there is some black market that moves in and out, but nothing official.

So, either the Bats made an unprovoked attack on a human world, and they aren't in self imposed exile; or we've missed out on a Human (Emperor) vs Bat debate in front of the Council. Which strikes me as having great hilarity potential.
The lack of cunts and badgers in the dialogue is in no way a means of detracting from their overall anger, but rather a tweak I've made; they're the angry marines, not the needlessly uncouth marines. Besides, /tg/'s version is entirely too silly, for profanity doth not anger make.
I think you may need some form of differentiator so it's a bit easier to tell when the Angry Marines are FURIOUS versus just ANGRY then. AllCaps always seems like yelling whether it's a period or an exclamation.

If there are slaves, Turians are most likely, (friends of Man, ect.) will they get a chance to strike back at their oppressors? I have an image of Fuklaw being like Cain to the aliens: a hero, freer of slaves, ect. and hating it. A reluctant Paragon, always doing the right thing, because it's the only real choice he can make.
 

kelenas

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Helping the suicidal slave actually depends on Shepard's background; Colonist, in this case. If he's Spacer/Earthborn, the slave won't show up, and you get a different sidequest in her place.

- Kelenas
 

SEG-CISR

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Oh, I'm just bumping so I can post the next snippet at the top of a page. Fuck the bottom, I like being on top.
 
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