The SG-1 Crossover Ideas topic!

[GenocideHeart]

Okay, this is something that came up with Innortal on MSN. Seeing how the Stargates technically connect to anywhere you want, you can argue that dimensional-travel AND time-travel (see Ba'al altering history and the crew contacting a Matrix-like world) are both canon for it.

So... what if the SG-1 crew found themselves visiting anime worlds?

Say, a Gundam anime. I can just hear a couple of the crew whining about wanting to bring a Mobile Suit back home as souvenir.

Or they find themselves in a certain hot springs dorm with a flying turtle overhead.

Or they end in the middle of a tentacle demon orgy. Ow, that must suck for those involved...

Yeah, anything goes, and with the weird shit they ALREADY have seen, nothing is too crazy - the crew will adapt to it. More or less. Usually in rather strange ways. :snigger:

I mean, the MATRIX world? :rofl: Come on...

Discuss.

Relevant Wikilink:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_SG-1

 

[DeathGod666]

But who would be the lead?

Richard Dean Anderson or Ben Browder?

 

[demon of humanity]

Cool idea gundams and stargate sg1

 

[trevelyan1983]

Anyone who hasn't read Vathara's On a Pale Horse needs to do so. Now.

That said, how's this for a crossover?

Lanteans and Ori both discovered the secrets of Ascension. The realm to which they ascend is Vatenkeist.

Anubis' ultimate trump card is not, in fact, his knowledge of the secrets of the universe. He is perhaps the most powerful user of the Dark Aurora since Nereid himself.

In order to defend against this, Daniel Jackson is taught the secrets of the Aurora Arte by Seyfert himself and returned to Earth - not as punishment, but as the only hope for the Lanteans, the Tauri and every other dood in the galaxy. Only he can kill Anubis.

Stargate SG-1 meets Tales of Eternia

 

[GenocideHeart]

Anyone who hasn't read Vathara's On a Pale Horse needs to do so. Now.

That said, how's this for a crossover?

Lanteans and Ori both discovered the secrets of Ascension. The realm to which they ascend is Vatenkeist.

Anubis' ultimate trump card is not, in fact, his knowledge of the secrets of the universe. He is perhaps the most powerful user of the Dark Aurora since Nereid himself.

In order to defend against this, Daniel Jackson is taught the secrets of the Aurora Arte by Seyfert himself and returned to Earth - not as punishment, but as the only hope for the Lanteans, the Tauri and every other dood in the galaxy. Only he can kill Anubis.

Stargate SG-1 meets Tales of Eternia

Daniel had better get the timing right. Messing up on activating Aurora Wall when Eternal Finality is coming down on you with its massive overkill power... sucks. :snigger:

So, will the Greater Craymels get involved? At the very least Sekundes isn't bound to either Inferia or Celestia, and he was always the hardest fight in the game, harder than even Nereid...

 

[trevelyan1983]

Daniel had better get the timing right. Messing up on activating Aurora Wall when Eternal Finality is coming down on you with its massive overkill power... sucks.? :snigger:

So, will the Greater Craymels get involved? At the very least Sekundes isn't bound to either Inferia or Celestia, and he was always the hardest fight in the game, harder than even Nereid...

Shizel has raped me more than once with Eternal Finality. It hurt.

Inferia and Celestia had unique Craymels, but similar Craymels would probably make for similar worlds. Given how much Inferia looks like Earth, and like every other planet in Stargate and Atlantis, I'd suggest that they would all have similar Craymels with different names.

You could play around with genders of the Craymels, too. A hawt female Greater Fire Craymel? A Namor-style Greater Water Craymel? All do-able, if the author wants. Y'know what Daniel's like at making friends in the strangest of places.

I'd keep the Greater Craymels out of it, personally. Also, in my opinion, Craymel Artes fly too close to magic for a Sci-fi. They tend to keep themselves to themselves, anyway, so it's not a great stretch. I know I wouldn't be attracting Anubis' attention if I could avoid it.

Shizel brought Hyades back to life, somehow. If that's an ability based on the Aurora, Daniel might finally get Shau're back. (Although, if it is, why the fuck did Shizel leave Balir dead?) It's a big if, but I reckon the guy could use a reward after ten years of being fucked over. ^_^

 

[Lord Raa]

Hmm, given that in the SG1 "universe" powerful beings have frequently masqueraded as gods, I can see a certain someone enjoying going from world to world....


Yes, Dark Schneider using the gate network FTW!

 

[trevelyan1983]

SG-1 dials into an alternate reality where the Stargate Command is under the command of FOXHOUND - and the General in charge is Big Boss. :evil:

Kinsey and the NID wouldn't have the balls to take on that guy. He'd sic Gray Fox on them.

 

[Light02]

well I already have my Ranma/SG-1 cross (using season 8 events just found the Ori to Jedi level invincable to be even considered good villians).

 

[trevelyan1983]

Again, alternative universe time. The SGC of another universe discovers an amazingly advanced form of fuel, far beyond Naqahdah, Naquadria or Zero-Point Modules.

Metatron

Vector Traps, Space Compression, Orbital Frames.

General Jack O'Neill, USAF Frame Runner Corps.

Colonel Samantha Carter, Metatron Development and Research.

Major John Sheppard, Frame Runner extraordinaire.

Imagine it. Self-repairing weapons platforms, capable of single-handedly capturing Ha'Tak cruisers, traveling across huge distances in the blink of an eye, energy weaponry, impregnable defense shields, the whole nine yards. A large proportion of Orbital Frames could even travel through the Stargate. And even a handful of models like Vic Viper could guarantee air superiority.

The combat potential is limitless. Once SG-1 figured out how to get home, they could be sent through the gate with an OF. Just one of the lower-tier models would tip the scales in their favour.

 

[drakensis]

Anyone who hasn't read Vathara's On a Pale Horse needs to do so. Now.

Don't you mean Upon a Fiery Steed?

For other crossover ideas:

SG-1 arrive on a post-nuclear wasteland, discovering a village where the local population were slaughtered by bandits. Mysteriously, the bandits are also dead - their heads having exploded for no apparent reason...

While Ascended, Daniel is invited to play the addictive Games of Divinity. Now Oma needs Daniel's team-mates to rescue him from Yu Shan.

Daniel discovers a reference to an Ancient weapon entitled Tiger Soul. Unfortunately, Ba'al is also seeking it out. The only counter is Heaven's Crystal.

Investigating reports of superhuman exploits to try to locate Ba'al, SG-1 are sent to Japan where schoolchildren in Nerima had demonstrated impossible feats of strength.

A bizarre alien force is overwhelming the latest world that SG-1 visit and Teal'c finds himself alone, in the dark of a night, his only hope is to forge an alliance with the brutal Black Swordsman and a pixie.

 

[trevelyan1983]

Don't you mean Upon a Fiery Steed?

Oh.

I do indeed. How silly of me. :unsure:

Ah well, a horse is a horse. Follow that link, people! ^_^

 

[foesjoe]

I clicked on that link and the pairing is given as Daniel Jackson/Jack O. Neill

...

I'm so NOT going to read this.

 

[SotF]

I clicked on that link and the pairing is given as Daniel Jackson/Jack O. Neill

...

I'm so NOT going to read this.

There isn't a pairing in that fic, it's without any and has several amusing moments including Duo leading the pilots and SG-1 on a pranks raid of a Tok'ra outpost.

 

[trevelyan1983]

OK, quick question that's been bugging me.

Would a transformable Mobile Suit be able to fit through the Stargate?

Take the Wing Gundam as an example. There's no way, IMO, that it could fit through the gate in its normal mecha form. Transform it into Bird mode, though, and it seems like a plausible possibility.

That's where Gundam Wing failed, though - you look at Zeta Gundam, and it's got stats for Waverider and Mobile Suit forms. Zeta Waverider is 25 metres long, 19 metres wide.

What does Wing have? Fucking combat stats. OMG, 140 Speed rating - that's 40% faster than the Leo, woot!

Edit!

 

[Cornuthaum]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wing_Gundam

Height: 16.7 metres
Empty weight: 7.7 tons

the weapons of most UC gundams weigh as much as Wing does XD

 

[trevelyan1983]

Apparently, Puddle Jumpers are 24 feet long and 16 feet wide. A foot is roughly a third of a metre. A Puddle Jumper would come out as, oh, 8 metres long and 5 metres wide. Going by that math, Zeta wouldn't fit through the Stargate - it's about 60 feet wide.

If Wing is comparable to Zeta in size, and it's pretty close, then there's no chance of squeezing it through the Stargate.

Happily, Wing mobile suits are insanely light, in comparison to other suits from alternative Centuries. They all weigh in at under 10 tonnes as opposed to anything between 30 and 80 tonnes for UC Gundam suits.

That means you could transport several Mobile Suits in the fighter bays of a Daedalus-class ship. Either lay the bastards down along the deck, or store them in Waverider/Bird/Mobile Armor modes.

 

[GenocideHeart]

Hmm... maybe Star Ocean planets? Depending on which point in time you use, there's Roak (Fellpool homeworld - uninhabitable by SO3's time), Tetragenesis (Opera's homeworld - destroyed by SO3's time as its main star went nova), Elicoor II, Klaus III (Cliff's homeworld), Expel (still habitable, IIRC), or hell, there's even Planet Styx.

Other possible video game xovers include the Suikoden world - while it's heavily magic-based, the True Runes are technically sentient beings in their own right, and powerful enough that even the bad guys would think a few times before messing with them.

If you want to use giant robots, consider Front Mission. The typical Wanzer is about twice to thrice as tall as a tank, so it SHOULD fit in, and they can easily be broken apart in parts - Wanzers are very easy to upgrade and put together.

(Granted, something like Driscoll's Type11DS 'Raven', which is twice the size of the biggest regular Wanzer you'll see, will never fit...)

Finally... Cybertron. Just because it'd be funny to see SG-1 recruit an Autobot. XD

 

[trevelyan1983]

Even magic can be explained by the Ascension process - people who are close to reaching that state often have freaky powers.

The 27 True Runes could be some kind of half-way point between the Ori and the Ancients. Powerful, mysterious, sometimes willing to help mortals, sometimes willing to rape them mercilessly. Implanting Runes could even be similar to creating Priors - although it's a lot less nasty, and a lot less permanant.

The same goes for Symbology, if you want it to.

 

[TheBetanWerecat]

I've actually read a couple Harry Potter/Stargate crossovers that were quite well done. The solutions to the story crisis in both cases was a combination of magic and muggle tech. If one can do it with Potter, then a decent author should be able to do it with just about any magical universe they knew well - assuming they also know Stargate well. These kinds of things, as is normal with crossovers, don't work if only one side of the cross is staying in character.

 

[trevelyan1983]

OK, new idea that I'm putting up here, because I'm basically not qualified to write it.

At the end of Char's Counterattack, Amuro Ray is missing in action. In all likelihood, he's dead.

What if, I say, what if he is not dead? What if the backlash from an entire race being concentrated on one single desire, at one single moment, overloaded the Nu Gundam's psycoframe. The frame, trying to find an outlet for that much energy, tears open a rift in the fabric of space, which sucks the Gundam and its pilot through.

When the mobile suit appears on the other side of the space-time continuum, it continues to bleed off huge amounts of energy, sealing the hole shut.

All is not lost, however - Nu Gundam is caught in the gravity well of a nearby planet, and slowly pulled in. Even better news - it's Earth, Amuro, but not as you know it. Due to variances in quantum physics and space-time across the dimensional divide, this Earth is several centuries behind Amuro's own. Heck, they don't even have colonies, yet.

They do, however, have a small space force. And that force is rather curious as to where this new satellite just appeared from. Indeed, that space force sends the USS Daedalus to investigate.

Yup. Amuro Ray, meet Stargate. Stargate, meet Amuro Ray. Goa'uld - learn to fear the word Gundam.

 

[Prince Charon]

Not sure if this deserves its own thread or not, so here it is:

Around mid-Season Two (between Bane and The Tok'ra, Part 1), SG-1 is sent out in a tel'tak (stolen from some System Lord, when they were cut off from the 'Gate) to survey Saturn's moon, Mimas, which is the only large moon in the Sol system not found on the Goa'uld astrogational chart discovered by J. Random Archaeologist. When they get there, their scans determine that its no moon, its a space station!

A space station covered in a few thousand years of rocks and dust. It contains a few hundred million droids (shut down to conserve power), a few million mummified corpses, about a million TIE fighters (mostly TIE/lns), and assorted other Imperial spacecraft, up to a single Executor-class SSD. There's also a Jedi Holocron in the station commander's office that responds to O'Neill, but insists he's to old to begin training.

This Death Star has internal manufacturing systems, drydocks, et cetra, and they'll be able to get a few of the shuttles working fairly quickly. It arrived in the SG-verse due to a hyperdrive malfunction that killed the crew.

So, given the SGC's personnel limitations, and the huge personnel requirements of the larger Imperial ships, how much use can they get out of this, and how does it affect subsequent events?

 

[holyknight]

OK, quick question that's been bugging me.

Would a transformable Mobile Suit be able to fit through the Stargate?

Take the Wing Gundam as an example. There's no way, IMO, that it could fit through the gate in its normal mecha form. Transform it into Bird mode, though, and it seems like a plausible possibility.

That's where Gundam Wing failed, though - you look at Zeta Gundam, and it's got stats for Waverider and Mobile Suit forms. Zeta Waverider is 25 metres long, 19 metres wide.

What does Wing have? Fucking combat stats. OMG, 140 Speed rating - that's 40% faster than the Leo, woot!

Edit!

Ironically.......it would be one that it's a recent one......from Gundam SEED Destiny........The Impulse Gundam( No Ultimate Whiny EMO Shinn Asuka plz!!)......oddly, it would be one that would be quite on the reach of the SGC to retro-engineer quickly and produce a working version, as the tech difference isn't that great really..



PS: About the alternate version of a SGC controlled for Big Boss, i can SOO see Big Boss infiltrating and dominating the US there, for sending Grey Fox, or whatever soldier what doesn't has the problem of Entropic Cascade Failure, to establish a twin of Outer Heaven there........the dream fallback point on case of a setback on his fight with the patriots.....

 

[trevelyan1983]

Ironically.......it would be one that it's a recent one......from Gundam SEED Destiny........The Impulse Gundam( No Ultimate Whiny EMO Shinn Asuka plz!!)......oddly, it would be one that would be quite on the reach of the SGC to retro-engineer quickly and produce a working version, as the tech difference isn't that great really..



PS: About the alternate version of a SGC controlled for Big Boss, i can SOO see Big Boss infiltrating and dominating the US there, for sending Grey Fox, or whatever soldier what doesn't has the problem of Entropic Cascade Failure, to establish a twin of Outer Heaven there........the dream fallback point on case of a setback on his fight with the patriots.....

In the end, something from the beginning of Gundam Wing answered the question for me - The wing binders on Heero's Gundam have variable geometry, meaning they can be brought closer in towards the body of the mech. Although as Raa said, that still won't be enough to allow it to pass through the Gate.

A core lander system, like the original Gundam or the Destiny, would allow sections of the suit to be sent through, solving the problem very neatly. There are no N-Jammers to worry about, either, so Phase-Shift armour and beam weaponry could be used without concern.

Although, that said, I'm starting to develop a serious attachment to the Zeta Gundam.

Big Boss owns. That's all I have to say. Hi-Frequency swords, powered exoskeletons and directed energy weapons would tilt off-world combat decidedly in favour of the Tau'ri - not to mention the elite units of freaky people that MGS games are so famous for. ^_^

Edit: On reflection, I decided that Lord Raa had the right of it.

 

[Lord Raa]

Mobile suits would not be able to fit through the gate intact.

That's not to say that they couldn't be transported through in pieces and assembled on other planets, but you're not going to have a combat-ready mech moments after it's stepped through the gate.

A Tactical Armour, or VOTOM or whatever the mechs from Blue Gender are called, however would be a much more believable option.


[Edit] Clarified my comment so it make sense. That's what I get for trying to post just before leaving the house.