Naruto The Untitled Naruto Crossover WiP

SoftRogue

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#1
:help:
As a lot of you know, yesterday I posted the beginnings of a Naruto/Bleach that got some...intresting feedback. Because of which, I reworked it and posted another verson of the fic.

In the first version I showed the return of Naruto's mother, Yoruichi, to Konoha for the first time since the Kyuubi was sealed within Nartuo.

In the second version I showed the exact same thing; but this time I wrote it as his mother being Soi Fong.

To be honest, at this point I could write either version. The problem, though, is I can't decide which. The Yoruichi version will be 'lighter' with a bit of a comedic bent to it while the Soi Fong version will a tad 'darker' with a bit more of a harder edge.

So, I decided to go a head an put it to a vote. I also posted some more background information here about the 'worlds' of Naruto and Bleach.

Oh; and I'm still looking of a title for this. :sweat:
 
#3
I'd have to go with Yoruichi if for no other reason than because she's more likely to hold a sustained interest in Yondaime...hell, any human at all. While its possible for Soifon to have fallen for him, its more of a stretch. :huh.:

And of course, with Yoruichi as his mother he gets to thaw the ice queen known as Soifon. :snigger: :p~
 

GenocideHeart

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#4
Soi Fong, for reasons explained in the other topic. Also, Naruto/Soi Fong is going to be a really big stretch if his mom is Yoruichi due to the relationship that exists between the two women, whereas the opposite isn't necessarily true.

Soi Fong's sternness makes her a really poor relationship choice for Naruto anyway. Why? Simple, Naruto is way too similar to Ichigo, and Soi Fong makes no mystery of her dislike of Ichigo's attitude and character. Thinking that she can work with Naruto when she shows clear dislike of someone wo acts almost exactly like him, brashness, loudmouthedness and all, is... well, I won't say stupid, but it's another 'breaking suspension of disbelief' moment.

And given how this one would still be canon Naruto in attitude (after all, his mother just came back from God knows how many years of absence, so his personality has already been estabilished), the 'he's not the same Naruto' excuse won't apply. Having a different mother means jack if the mother isn't there to forge his character in the early years.

That's my $0.02. Later all.
 

lethum

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#5
Yoruichi is the best choice in all but skin tone, actually.
 

yamaban

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#6
Yoruichi as a darkly tanned medium skintone, Arashi as nearly Aryan, so Naruto would be an only lightly tanned medium-to-light skintone. Personally I prefer her to Soi Fong in terms of personality, the loudmouthedness and brashness Naruto displays is IMHO an defence mechanism against the abuse and dislike/hate he got as kid. (no offence GH)

My 2ct in this, Cheers
 

GenocideHeart

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#7
yamaban said:
Yoruichi as a darkly tanned medium skintone, Arashi as nearly Aryan, so Naruto would be an only lightly tanned medium-to-light skintone. Personally I prefer her to Soi Fong in terms of personality, the loudmouthedness and brashness Naruto displays is IMHO an defence mechanism against the abuse and dislike/hate he got as kid. (no offence GH)

My 2ct in this, Cheers
In that case he should have dropped the act at least partially after the events in Naruto so far, since a LOT of people are treating him well.

But nooo. What does he do? He still leaps without thinking, yells a lot and generally acts like an idiot. The only exception is when he's angsting over emofag.

Even assuming it was a defense mechanism, it's gone on for so many years that it's become an integral part of himself, and he probably can't stop using it even if he wanted to.

So the issue doesn't exist. Defense mechanism or not, it's how Naruto IS, and he either can't or doesn't want to change.

Just saying.
 

GenocideHeart

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#8
By the way, to clarify, the 4th isn't 'nearly' Aryan. He, and Naruto as well, ARE Aryan, period. Fair skin, blue eyes, blond hair, and all shades match one another between supposed father and supposed son.

Even in the rare cases when a child has an uncanny resemblance to the father, the mother's features WILL show up at least a little, but in Naruto's case, he's a goddamn clone of the Yondaime, they are pretty much identical barring the whisker marks (which, given how they deepen when he goes berserk, are almost certainly Kyuubi induced).

My problem is that regardless of how much genetic mumbo jumbo you may throw around, such incredible likeness is just plain not possible when the mother looks so DIFFERENT from the kid. Yoruichi may have a slightly better personality (although I'd argue she's less interesting - an ice queen like Soi Fong falling for a human would be a lot more interesting to write about than a flirt like Yoruichi), but she looks nothing like Naruto, and the kid looks waaaaaaaay too much like his father (as in, he could be his twin brother), which leaves very little space to put Yoruichi in in a believable way.

Now, you could make some weird ass excuse with a Gigai, Urahara messing around, Yoruichi suddenly feeling frisky and how the genetic code works differently when a Gigai is knocked up bla bla bla, but let me remind you of the #1 rule of fanfiction:

K.I.S.S. (Keep It Simple, Stupid)

Using Yoruichi is the LEAST simple idea, because you will be expected to explain WHY the kid looks basically nothing like the mom, and that will probably require either a long winde explanation that disrupts the rhythm of the fic, or force you to make it short and leave the reader unsatisfied with it, kinda like how Bakamoto didn't really think the whole elemental attributes through.

Meanwhile, using Soi Fong is a lot easier to work around, and can also be much more interesting, due to the contrast in personality between her and Naruto.
 

Mereo Flere

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#9
I'm going to have to vote for Soi Fong.

While Yoruichi is awesome, Soi Fong just has more potential for drama in a relationship.
 

cdog21

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#10
With Soi Fong's attitude and the way things were, if I were Naruto I would probably wind up punching her in the face mom or not. I mean really Naruto got into a fight with Jirayia and Tsunade as soon as he met them (Jiraiya), so it's not that much of a leap of faith if Soi Fong acts the way she does all the time with him and Naruto wanting to sock her one. So im sticking with the pretty kitty, the only reason I might pick Soi Fong as mom is so Naruto could hook up with Yoruichi later. Seeing as I want Yoruichi to be mommy it shows how much of a Naruto/Yourichi pairing I would want to see in this story -_- .
 
#11
I would have to vote for Soi Fong,If not only to see how far this story can go with her as his mother... but I'm really curious as to what her reaction would be to how not only the village as a whole treated naruto...but also how Kakashi basically ignored his sensei's teachings and disregarded two students over one which nearly led to her son's death. That and im interested in seeing a good Naruto Yoruichi pairing...hell any pairing at all at that as im not certain if there are any parings of that at all while I have seen a possible Naruto and Soi Fong paring in another fic :huh.: and as was stated earlier Naruto's personality is very similar to Ichigo defense mechanism or not and it would be amusing to see Naruto try to change his mother....hell its not that much of a stretch If he could do it with Tsunade and we know how she was, he'd damn sure try to do it for his real mother.... :huh.: but meh its your fic do as you like It wont stop me from reading it though.. :snigger: :snigger:
 

Matdeception

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#12
I know very little, actually nothing, about Bleach so I obviously can't contribute to this poll worth a damn. I did find the reasonings presented, at least that of genetics in the case of GH against the original concept to be anal, especially as it seems you are already dealing with an inexact science/mysticism such as where the 'gigas' or whatever are concerned.

To the point, I don't give a damn. Just write the damn story, hooker!
 
#13
Wow, you sure know how to sweet-talk 'em, Matdeception. <_<

Damnit, I want to change my vote now. Yoruichi might be more entertaining, but you might actually have a better fic on your hands with Soifon. :huh.: It's your call though.
 

Mereo Flere

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#14
Ahem.

My case for Soi Fong.

For one, she knows what it's like to be abandoned and left alone. She could emphasize not only the situation she put her son through, but also how he feels when Sasuke left, and as well as what he's putting himself through to drag him back.

Yoruichi also has very bad compatibillity with Naruto as a mother. It'll be more difficult for him to respect her, especially when he hears about how she left her home without a word. He wouldn't be able to accept her excuse, and resent her for it.

The barrier that Soi Fong would have to overcome though is the personality difference. At the same time though, she'll remind him a little how Sasuke used to be (even with the whole "Onee/Onii-sama abandoing them" minus the family massacre), yet took a different path than his friend and stayed behind. He'll face a similar problem as her, fighting Sasuke, yet she can provide hope that bridges can be rebuilt.
 
#15
My case for Yoruichi:

She likes to transform from her cat form to her human form (which is just as unclothed as her cat form) in front of guys she thinks will be easily embarrassed, and I really want to see her do this to Naruto.

The end. Well... that is a really good reason, but also...

Yoruichi has a similar personality to Naruto, she didn't leave for power (like Sasuke did), and she actually cares about people. She left her 'village' because her village exiled her friend... he didn't dislike Sakura for planning to do something worse in betraying her village for Sasuke.

Yoruichi could actually say she felt betrayed by her 'village' for doing that to her friend, and went with him. Sakura has no such excuse... him disliking Yoruichi wouldn't make sense, if he could forgive Sakura for a worse offense.

Soi Fong just took it harder than she should have, because she's a little Emogami. I purely agree that Naruto would, after he learned the details of the situation, probably punch Soi Fong in the face... if she made a big deal about it.

I have no doubt that if Konoha turned on Sakura or Sasuke, Naruto would have been right behind them, if they left.

But I want to see Naruto with all the hot females from Bleach and Tsunade and Anko from Naruto, so... it doesn't make much difference to me who you choose. I'm probably going to be disappointed either way (unless you ignore the common boundaries).

Soi Fong means less likely chance of Naruto/Soi Fong.

Yoruichi means less likely chance of Naruto/Yoruichi.

But Yoruichi makes more sense, in the end. And as several people, myself included, have pointed out, the genetics issue is not a problem.
 

Matdeception

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#16
Meh. Don't get me wrong, I honestly don't know either of those characters, so I can't / won't comment on other factors aside from the genetics issue of it all. For all I know, that Y chick could be the devil given form, raped GH and didn't even buy him dinner.

Or F1 is Soi whatever groupie and inadverantly influences GH, who knows :p

Yes I deserve a smack across the face for that one.

Anyway. Genetics aside, I'd like the story itself to be written by Soft Rogue the way he wants to write it, and not influenced by outside factors to the point he has to change his story to accomodate people. Really, I'd just give you all the finger and keep things going the way I want to write it/decide it should be written.

That's just me tho, I'll give off my soap box and stop pontificating my petty Ideals.

More porn, please.
 
#17
yeah but in this case Uhara (spelling?) left because he was forced to and Yoruichi left for a good reason because she genuinely supported her friend... Sasuke left on a quest for power to Orochimaru a criminal who not only orchestrated an attack on the leaf village killed the kazekage and killed the Third...a selfish and stupid reason to abandon the village no matter how you try to justify it... :no: I have find it severely hard to belvie that naruto would follow him...or Sakura too for that matter if she did follow him.... :no: but then I forget that this isn't real life and kishi make naruto just up and forgive anybody...even after your supposed best friend punched a hole the size of his fist through your chest and leaves you for dead :no: :no: :no:
 
#18
perfect_solider said:
yeah but in this case Uhara (spelling?) left because he was forced to and Yoruichi left for a good reason because she genuinely supported her friend... Sasuke left on a quest for power to Orochimaru a criminal who not only orchestrated an attack on the leaf village killed the kazekage and killed the Third...a selfish and stupid reason to abandon the village no matter how you try to justify it... :no: I have find it severely hard to belvie that naruto would follow him...or Sakura too for that matter if she did follow him.... :no: but then I forget that this isn't real life and kishi make naruto just up and forgive anybody...even after your supposed best friend punched a hole the size of his fist through your chest and leaves you for dead :no:? :no:? :no:
Were you responding to my post? Because if so, I specifically pointed out that Yoruichi left for a good reason and Sasuke left purely for power. Yoruichi could rightfully feel betrayed, while Sasuke did the betraying.

And if you're talking about the part where I said Naruto would follow them... I specifically stated that he would follow them if Konoha turned on Sakura and/or Sasuke.

If that wasn't a response to my post then... never mind. :)
 

GenocideHeart

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#19
There's a way to solve this debate. All SoftRogue has to do is write two or three chapters with each solution, then go with the most popular one.

Given how, unlike me, his chapters don't seem to be 10,000+ words long, it shouldn't take him too much time regardless, and it will clearly show how he intends to develop each situation.
 
#20
That's actually a good idea.

Although I can't help but feel like a greedy bastard.

:huh.: Oh, well. I guess I'll just have to live with it. :p
 

Eternity

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#21
I say Yoruichi personally,

I just think she fits better as being Naruto's mother, and if need be perma-tan Naruto is an amusing image ^^;
 

Jakkun

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#22
I'm sticking with Yoruichi. Soi Fong doesn't seem to fit any better than her genetically other than skin tone or personality. Soi Fong wouldn't fall for a human. Some of the other Shinigami might. Rukia would work better than Soi Fong, since Arashi would probably be more like the dead guy she loved. Her small size might also explain why he was a midget until he grows up later. I suppose Soi Fong could work for the small size but I can't see her fitting the role nearly as well. Plus if it's Rukia then he can get pissed at his uncle. Though if I had to say that Rukia had any connection to anyone in Konoha, it would be as Hanabi's mom.
 

raedric

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#23
People just love using real-world logic in anime, eh? Can't say it doesn't add depth. I still vote for Yoruichi, as well. Arguably, GH, it wouldn't make it all tha difficult. All you have to do is make Naruto's skin tone darker. And that could be done in one sentence.

"Uzumaki Naruto, born with stunningly blonde hair and of slightly tanned complexion..."

All good stories start at the beginning. And as an AU, it is perfectly acceptable to change that. And as it would be a small change, it is easily imaginable.

Of course, you could still go the hard route and make up some reason why Naruto is Aryan, but that WOULD be more difficult without the soul splicing. Hell, you could make it so Yondaime banged Soi Fong, knocked her up, and dumped her for Yoruichi for all I care. As long as it works!
 

cdog21

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#24
raedric said:
Of course, you could still go the hard route and make up some reason why Naruto is Aryan, but that WOULD be more difficult without the soul splicing. Hell, you could make it so Yondaime banged Soi Fong, knocked her up, and dumped her for Yoruichi for all I care. As long as it works!
I actually don't see any problem with that idea at all :snigger:
 

Jakkun

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#25
My genjutsu idea would work too. Tsunade could have put a seal on him to make him look like Arashi or something.
 
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