Tyranid infestation?

[xanos]

The basic idea is this:

The hive fleet is dead. Killed by some unnamed aliens out in interstellar space.
All that remain is a single damagedd hive ship(one of the smaller ones) after drifting in space for a untold number of years it crash into the atmosphere of a certain blue planet.
It almost compleatly burn up in the air but the core hit the earth just south of Sunnydale.

The only surviors is 3 Genestealers and 5 slivers.
If caught fast they are unlikely to spread.
Leave them unchecked for a month and you got a swarm that make locust look solitary.

Any one else think this might become fun?

 

[GenocideHeart]

...three Genestealers alone can kill an entire platoon of heavily armored Space Marines if they have plenty of cover to sneak around.

You expect me to think Buffy and her soft, squishy friends can succeed where even Space Marines would be hard pressed to come out in one piece?

This is a disaster waiting to happen, and has BAD END written all over it.

 

[xanos]

...three Genestealers alone can kill an entire platoon of heavily armored Space Marines if they have plenty of cover to sneak around.

You expect me to think Buffy and her soft, squishy friends can succeed where even Space Marines would be hard pressed to come out in one piece?

This is a disaster waiting to happen, and has BAD END written all over it.

Well...i was thinking later in the series and this kinda replace The First Evil as the main villan of the season.


And to be fair...they DID take down a god earlier...

 

[byakuryuu]

...God?

Generic Buffy Supervillain: Mwahahahahahaha! I iz teh ebil!

Orks: RED MAKES IT GO FASTAH!

Generic Buffy SuperVillain: Oh crap.

Puh-lease.

 

[voidseeker]

...God?

Generic Buffy Supervillain: Mwahahahahahaha! I iz teh ebil!

Ork HORDE: RED MAKES IT GO FASTAH!

Generic Buffy SuperVillain: Oh crap.

Puh-lease.

fixed

 

[Munch]

In a universe full of bad ideas, with the monotony only broken by the occasional really bad idea?

This idea goes above and beyond the call of duty to be even worse than that. I mean, we are talking end-of-the-world, people dying in rainbow explosions kind of bad here, not just regular bad. Holocaust, Armageddon, Ragnarok, another great flood, the moon turning into blood, locusts devouring 1/4 of all humans kind of bad. This is its own special kind of bad, and I stress the most negative connotations of the word 'special'

 

[xanos]

In a universe full of bad ideas, with the monotony only broken by the occasional really bad idea?

This idea goes above and beyond the call of duty to be even worse than that. I mean, we are talking end-of-the-world, people dying in rainbow explosions kind of bad here, not just regular bad. Holocaust, Armageddon, Ragnarok, another great flood, the moon turning into blood, locusts devouring 1/4 of all humans kind of bad. This is its own special kind of bad, and I stress the most negative connotations of the word 'special'

Love you to!

And yeah...now when i'm sober i can see its not the best idea in the world :mmm:

 

[voidseeker]

In a universe full of bad ideas, with the monotony only broken by the occasional really bad idea?

This idea goes above and beyond the call of duty to be even worse than that. I mean, we are talking end-of-the-world, people dying in rainbow explosions kind of bad here, not just regular bad. Holocaust, Armageddon, Ragnarok, another great flood, the moon turning into blood, locusts devouring 1/4 of all humans kind of bad. This is its own special kind of bad, and I stress the most negative connotations of the word 'special'

...hows this one work?

 

[Grunt]

Actually, give us some more info, 3 pure strain genestealers?

2nd generation, 3rd generation?

...on the other hand as it has been pointed out, yeah, it won't really matter.

Genestealers may be shotable and killable....problem is they're pretty good at it too.....

Also tyranids as a whole don't think a lot of playing with their food....its mostly chomp-chomp-chomp

 

[xanos]

Actually, give us some more info, 3 pure strain genestealers?

2nd generation, 3rd generation?

...on the other hand as it has been pointed out, yeah, it won't really matter.

Genestealers may be shotable and killable....problem is they're pretty good at it too.....

Also tyranids as a whole don't think a lot of playing with their food....its mostly chomp-chomp-chomp

As i'm drunk again i'm back at thinking this is a good idea! :mmm:


Might want to change the setup abit though. How about benching the gene stealers and just having a few slivers survive?
Make the force slowly stronger to give the buffy team time to activate slayers and such to combat the threat...

 

[GiantMonkeyMan]

I don't know enough about the mechanics of tyranids but a genestealer cult being taken on by the slayer army reeks of win to me. You know, a bunch of mutated humans. Or, if you wanted it earlier, the Initiative could potentially handle them; the Imperial Guard do, after all, and the Initiative is armed with the best of Earth's weapons. In fact, imagine ADAM actually doing what he was built for and taking on the menace of the tyranid cult or Xander stealing a second stinger and blowing up a carnifex or something.

As I said, I don't know enough about tyranids but I think it could work. The slayers/initiative would have to be as brutal as the Imperials... which would equally be as awesome.

 

[Wakka]

I don't know enough about the mechanics of tyranids but a genestealer cult being taken on by the slayer army reeks of win to me. You know, a bunch of mutated humans. Or, if you wanted it earlier, the Initiative could potentially handle them; the Imperial Guard do, after all, and the Initiative is armed with the best of Earth's weapons. In fact, imagine ADAM actually doing what he was built for and taking on the menace of the tyranid cult or Xander stealing a second stinger and blowing up a carnifex or something.

As I said, I don't know enough about tyranids but I think it could work. The slayers/initiative would have to be as brutal as the Imperials... which would equally be as awesome.

The Imperial Guard has 2 to 3+ megajoule personal beam weapons. In comparison, a shotgun delivers about 700 kilojoules, to 1 megajoule of energy. Total. The beam weapons are just powerful enough to damage the smallest Tyranids. Short of hitting an eye, a bullet would bounce off them. Heavier Imperial weapons can go through an Abrams or two the long way. The Initiative is fucked beyond fucked, unless they start arming everyone with multiple-shot rocket launchers. Frankly, they won't know to do that until a team survives long enough to scream "OH GOD OUR BULLETS DO NOTHING". That might take a while.

As for a Stinger blowing up a Carnifex? You've got to be joking. You might succeed in pissing it off, tops. Try an anti-tank missile (Hint: Aircraft, a Stinger's intended target, aren't armored for squat), and aim for an eye. Assuming Xander is capable of hitting a small, moving target on an elephant+ sized creature capable of annihilating squads of super-soldiers carrying man-portable machine-gun-rocket-launchers. Yeahhhhh, that'd happen. [/sarcasm]

Here's a lasgun quantification. Here's a collection of other quantification threads. Suffice to say that it's not pretty.

Sci-Fi bio-tech is incredible wank. Don't even get me started on the Yuuzhan Vong.

 

[Munch]

Xander stealing a second stinger and blowing up a carnifex or something.

Stinger as in the anti-aircraft missile? Bro. An anti-tank missile doesn't really do much. An anti-aircraft missile is just going to piss it off further. To clarify slightly on what Wakka so eloquently said, the Spess Muhreen's personal weapon is essentially an automatic rocket launcher. Trigger goes depressed, machine-gun-rockets dispensed. Like. high explosive rockets. Liquidating a fair amount of a man's body with one of them kind of explosive.

They don't really do shit to 'Fexes.

Heavy bolters, which are like machine guns COMPARED TO machine guns? Not really much better. Even in the war40k universe it's hard to reliably leverage sufficient anti-tank or plasma weaponry to take down a 'fex, and Buffy doesn't have either the tech nor the 8 foot tall guys with super strength to carry around heavy plasma cannons and the like to even have a fighting chance of taking on a 'fex. Not to mention that Carnifexes don't go around alone, but use a 'human wave' tactic to keep themselves behind a more-or-less literal wall of smaller and faster Tyranids, so... you'd have to deal with about WAY TOO MANY smaller ones before the 'fex is going to be a good target, and by that point you're dead anyways.

Let's just keep in mind that Tyranids in general, even sans-'fexes, have a tendency to fuck up eight foot tall walking super-tanks who are pretty much immune to everything short of heavy armor piercing weaponry and can shrug even that off long enough to kill you regardless due to their inhuman survivability. Some of them can give themselves perma-bullet time, Mantis chapter or something.

tl;dr bad idea got worse when Carnifexes were brought in

 

[Mercsenary]

The way I understand it Fexes, to really kill one quickly, you have to drop like a goddamn destroyer on it. Like Orbital bombardment. Continuous Orbital bombardment.



In other words this idea: SHIT! TYRANIDS. THESE THINGS MAKE THE ZERG LOOK LIKE PUSSYS. GTFO the PLANET NAO! GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGO!

 

[Wakka]

The way I understand it Fexes, to really kill one quickly, you have to drop like a goddamn destroyer on it. Like Orbital bombardment. Continuous Orbital bombardment.

You're thinking of Bio-Titans. The things that can take and deal megatons (a gigaton?)/second of punishment. A carnifex can be felled by several melta-gun level blasts IIRC. So a Fuel Air Bomb or a small nuke would do for it.

A Bio-Titan? I'll be leaving the planet if at all possible.

In other words this idea: SHIT! TYRANIDS. THESE THINGS MAKE THE ZERG LOOK LIKE PUSSYS. GTFO the PLANET NAO! GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGO!

The Tyranids are what the Zerg are hoping to grow up into.

3 Pure strain 'Stealers.
3 "slivers"

Did you mean Lictor when you typed sliver? I'm not finding a "sliver" unit for Tyranids.

If you meant Lictor, everyone is fucked. Those things have Ghost in the Shell style active camouflage, and can one-shot Space Marines with their claws. Anyone who ends up in melee with them will die, Slayer or not. Standard "bullets bounce off them" applies, and hitting one with a rocket is...unlikely. They're fast, can climb walls (I mean solid concrete style here) like running on the ground, and use these abilities effectively.

Anyway, the Tyranids' first priority would be to convert a control unit. If the Buffy types find them before this point, they might have a chance. After a controlling unit is made, they'll be far more coordinated and smart. After (or during) that, they'll infect a few dozen people with the gene-mod thing they do, and lay low for several generations. Yes, generations. During this time, human looking descendants of the people infected will try to get into positions of power. The first people infected will have no clue, and might move to other towns, etc. In 150-200 years, they'll have a few hundred (maybe a few thousand, depending on how many got the fruit of their loins genetically hijacked) psionically linked cultists, and another dozen or two pure-strains. Then they'll start to act more openly, to divide and weaken human factions on the planet.

Of course, since no one knows that Tyranids exist, and any investigators will be facing monsters that make Xenomorphs (Alien) look like pussies, there's a good chance the Tyranids will take over the planet. In a thousand years, granted, but they can wait that long. After they strip the planet and make a few ships, they can set off as a new swarm in the galaxy. God help the universe.

 

[xanos]

The way I understand it Fexes, to really kill one quickly, you have to drop like a goddamn destroyer on it. Like Orbital bombardment. Continuous Orbital bombardment.

You're thinking of Bio-Titans. The things that can take and deal megatons (a gigaton?)/second of punishment. A carnifex can be felled by several melta-gun level blasts IIRC. So a Fuel Air Bomb or a small nuke would do for it.

A Bio-Titan? I'll be leaving the planet if at all possible.

In other words this idea: SHIT! TYRANIDS. THESE THINGS MAKE THE ZERG LOOK LIKE PUSSYS. GTFO the PLANET NAO! GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGO!

The Tyranids are what the Zerg are hoping to grow up into.

3 Pure strain 'Stealers.
3 "slivers"

Did you mean Lictor when you typed sliver? I'm not finding a "sliver" unit for Tyranids.

If you meant Lictor, everyone is fucked. Those things have Ghost in the Shell style active camouflage, and can one-shot Space Marines with their claws. Anyone who ends up in melee with them will die, Slayer or not. Standard "bullets bounce off them" applies, and hitting one with a rocket is...unlikely. They're fast, can climb walls (I mean solid concrete style here) like running on the ground, and use these abilities effectively.

Anyway, the Tyranids' first priority would be to convert a control unit. If the Buffy types find them before this point, they might have a chance. After a controlling unit is made, they'll be far more coordinated and smart. After (or during) that, they'll infect a few dozen people with the gene-mod thing they do, and lay low for several generations. Yes, generations. During this time, human looking descendants of the people infected will try to get into positions of power. The first people infected will have no clue, and might move to other towns, etc. In 150-200 years, they'll have a few hundred (maybe a few thousand, depending on how many got the fruit of their loins genetically hijacked) psionically linked cultists, and another dozen or two pure-strains. Then they'll start to act more openly, to divide and weaken human factions on the planet.

Of course, since no one knows that Tyranids exist, and any investigators will be facing monsters that make Xenomorphs (Alien) look like pussies, there's a good chance the Tyranids will take over the planet. In a thousand years, granted, but they can wait that long. After they strip the planet and make a few ships, they can set off as a new swarm in the galaxy. God help the universe.

I might be wrong but slivers isnt actualy a combat unit so they isnt in the tabletop game. They are found in the fluff and are the eater/growers. They are the maggot form on the tyranids and can grow into structure like nids that can produce more nids.

EDIT: cant find the place i got this info so i might be remembering the name wrong.

 

[GiantMonkeyMan]

:huh: So we've established, I think, that I know very little about Tyranids. In fact, I haven't really touched 40k as a fandom in years and even then I didn't particularly like the 'nids so... chill, yeah? My knowledge mainly comes from the second fic in this series:

Better the Daemon You Know 1
Better the Daemon You Know 2

I haven't read it in a while but I recommend it to anyone; even with meagre 40k knowledge it's enjoyable. Anyway, in it this Imp Guard group find a genestealer cult or something (purposely vague). The way they're described basically reminds me of demons/mutants that can be killed as 'easily' as some demons Buffy's crew ends up fighting against. And what's not to like about a horde of mutants facing off against an equally horde-like group of hot teenage girls?

 

[nick012000]

I thought he meant Magic: the Gathering Slivers, who'd be just as much of an apocalypse for the Buffyverse as Tyrannids in their own right.

 

[Mercsenary]

In other words this idea: SHIT! TYRANIDS. THESE THINGS MAKE THE ZERG LOOK LIKE PUSSYS. GTFO the PLANET NAO! GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGO!

The Tyranids are what the Zerg are hoping to grow up into.

More like the Nids will eat the Zerg alive.


But yeah I really dont think there's anyway earth will survive. Unless you Nuke like the entire continent that the infestation is on... considering the modern world that might not even stop it if somehow it gets on a ship or something.


Fuck it lets just launch a nuke at some and trigger WW3.

 

[GenocideHeart]

I thought he meant Magic: the Gathering Slivers, who'd be just as much of an apocalypse for the Buffyverse as Tyrannids in their own right.

It takes exactly a single Sliver Queen to go from a single Sliver to about five hundred in less than a week. Each and every one of them usually gaining its own unique mutation in the process and 'transmitting' it to any Sliver nearby.

You do the math of how many eggs a Sliver Queen lays and how fast they hatch and grow.

Not to mention a Sliver Queen is huge. Like, 40 feet tall. And armored all over its body enough that it can tank magical lightning bolts, incineration spells and even respectable-sized fireballs. And full of spikes and talons enough to rend anything that doesn't carry similar armor to her own limb from limb in short order.

Yeah, better leave Slivers alone. Even without a Queen, Slivers develop a hivemind over time, as Time Spiral showed us. And with sufficient variety, even only half a dozen Slivers would spell almost certain doom to anyone.

Not to mention post-Scourge Slivers somehow gained the ability to reproduce WITHOUT a Queen. They have Breeder units now, IIRC, which means that while they don't reproduce as quickly and virulently as a Queen, they can still increase numbers by the dozens over a couple weeks.

Bottom line: leave the Slivers alone. Even Planeswalkers prefer not to screw with a Sliver hive.

 

[nick012000]

In other words this idea: SHIT! TYRANIDS. THESE THINGS MAKE THE ZERG LOOK LIKE PUSSYS. GTFO the PLANET NAO! GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGO!

The Tyranids are what the Zerg are hoping to grow up into.

More like the Nids will eat the Zerg alive.


But yeah I really dont think there's anyway earth will survive. Unless you Nuke like the entire continent that the infestation is on... considering the modern world that might not even stop it if somehow it gets on a ship or something.


Fuck it lets just launch a nuke at some and trigger WW3.

Wut? Nuking a continent to stop Tyrannids? That won't even come close. By the end of the week they'll have spread across the entire planet; by the end of the month, the entire planet will have been Tyranniformed, and they'll be stripping it of everything of value. When they leave, all that'll be left would be a barren rock.

 

[bluepencil]

It depends, really. Tyranid, specially genestealers, can also act very subtly; preparing for an invasion generations in advance. After all, the Inquisition can ferret out nests and broods that would otherwise have called out for a Tyranid swarm. The problem, of course, is that Tyranid come from 40k. It's a question of scale.

In Buffyverse, the First Evil, which presumably existed close to the beginning of the universe, could only appear and taunt heroes with their bad memories. In the Milky Way galaxy in the grim dark future, when daemons enter the material plane:

IT WAS A heaving sea of hatred, an ocean of pure evil.

Far below, the surface of Khorion IX was covered in a seething forest of torture racks, crosses and squares and stars of bloodstained wood on which were broken hundreds of thousands of bodies, mangled and wound around the wood like vines around a cane. It was like a huge and horrible vineyard, with rows and rows of crucified bodies spilling a terrible vintage of blood into the earth. The victims were trapped between life and death, their bodies exsanguinated but their minds just lucid enough to understand their agony. They were the servants of the Prince of a Thou?sand Faces, the cultists and demagogues summoned to their master's planet in the hope of an eternal reward that was all too real. Their bodies were merged with the wood that had grown as the seasons passed, twist?ing their limbs into canopies of fleshy branches and deforming them until there was barely anything human in them save for their suffering.

They said the screams could be heard from orbit. They were right.

At an unheard signal, the ground began to seethe. The crucified of Khorion IX began to wail even louder, their agony supplanted by fear, as the sodden earth burst into fountains of bloodstained soil and a hideous gibbering rose up from beneath. Iridescent, shifting creatures crawled up to the surface, some with long reaching fingers and torsos dominated by leering, huge-mawed faces, others with bloated fungoid bodies that belched multicoloured flame. There were raven?ous swarms of tiny, misshapen things that gnawed at the roots of the crucified forest and immense winged monsters like huge deformed vultures that spat magic fire. Every one was a shining multicoloured vision of hell, and each was just a pale reflection of their master. The Prince of a Thousand Faces, the Forger of Hells, the Whisperer in the Darkness - Ghargatuloth the Daemon Lord, chosen of the God of Change.

A tide of daemons burst like an ocean from the ground and flooded through the crucified forest, shrieking in anticipation and hunger, the greater dae?mons marshalling the lesser and the lowest of them, forming a mantle of daemon flesh that covered the ground in a sea of iridescence.

The daemonic tide poured onto the surface until from far above it looked like an ocean of daemonskin, the lesser daemons sweeping between the rows of the crucified and the greater crushing Ghargatuloth's slave-victims beneath clawed feet. The will of Ghargatuloth resonated through the very crust of Khorion IX; every single one of the Tzeentch's servants felt it.

The next turning point will be here, it said. Thou?sands of the Change God's plots were coming to a head in this battle, a tangled nexus of fates that would set the path for the future. It was fate that formed the medium through which Tzeentch mutated the uni?verse to his will, and so this was a holy battle where fate was the weapon, the prize and the battleground.

The cackling of the daemon army mixed with the screams of the crucified and the air vibrated with the din. For light years in all directions the insane bab?bling and screams of desperation gnawed at every mind, whispering darkly and shrieking insanely. Though the space around Khorion IX was largely devoid of human habitation, many of those few who heard the call of the daemon lost their minds in the prelude to the battle.

Tyranid, like everything else in that fetid future, are lethal to last bit. It would take more than a Slayer, some magic fire, or sharp pointy objects to stop them. This is something for a well-equipped army. I mean, their blood is -acid-. They spit viruses. They feel no pain, no fear, no hesitation. And because they're not magical, the scalar strength of the Slayer might not even work. Tyranid psychic presence have been known to blot out the Warp around them.... and the Warp is where daemons live. It's... a bad idea to do this as straight combat.

However, Xander having a single Ripper as a pet might be interesting. Sure, it consumes biomass, but without a reclamation pool it can't really make any more Tyranid. Unless he's somehow turning into a Patriarch...

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Tyranid

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Genestealer_Cult

 

[xanos]

Ripper! Thats the name...not sliver. Sorry about that...

Still the slayer strenght should work. Its in her body, not a outside force.

Still i think the buddy gang could beat 3 Genestealers and a few Rippers. And without a pool and the backing of the hive they should be pretty slow to spread.

The taking over a planet in a week kinda depend alot on having a hivefleet helping them.

 

[Rift120]

Ripper! Thats the name...not sliver. Sorry about that...

Still the slayer strenght should work. Its in her body, not a outside force.

Still i think the buddy gang could beat 3 Genestealers and a few Rippers. And without a pool and the backing of the hive they should be pretty slow to spread.

The taking over a planet in a week kinda depend alot on having a hivefleet helping them.

Depends on if they're purestrain Genestealers or not... Purestrain are noted to 'RIP APART TERMINATOR ARMOR' like tissue (Source Duty Calls by Sandy Mitchel)

 

[bluepencil]

Her unarmored body against an enemy that spits flesh-eating spores? last I checked, Slayers were not immune to poison gas.

Ranged firepower is a goodness, never let anyone tell you otherwise. Go into close combat only when you have no choice, or you're a goddamn Astartes with two hearts, ceramite bones, and the grace of the God-Emperor. ^_^