Nasuverse Unlimited Gabriel Blessing Works

Amodelsino

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#51
shiki said:
A well made Sword with an A-rank attack rating.

And if I remember correctly, an A-rank attack is the equivalent to the power of a C rank noble phantasm (generally, I think I read this before the wiki went down in 2009?).

So the sword would still be beastly if handed to someone else, it just wouldn't be anywhere near as strong as the real one that Saber uses.

Edit: I am confused at what you guys consider "use". Do you mean activating the NP or just plain swinging it around.

If you mean activating it, then yeah. Saber is probably the only one that can use it without fucking themselves up.

If you are talking about just swinging it about, that is a different story.
Right, that's why Saber always has A rank attac- oh wait.

That's not how it works. It's just a sharp, really tough sword when it's not activated. The attack rating (STR) comes from the fact that Saber's swings are really strong, and she's still only got B under Shirou and Kiritsugu.

Also, not just without fucking themselves up, she's literally the only one who can use it (and Shirou's the only one who can use the traced version). The Noble Phantasm is the activated ability. The sword is just a sword.
 

Mercsenary

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#52
randombugger said:
Seed00 said:
randombugger said:
Deathwings said:
Shin Tokyo is NEW, recently built city that was created entirely on Minaka's order specifically to serve as the stage of his Sekirei Plan. It is Minaka's, nobody else. So 1, 2 and 4 would be hard to pull off to say the least.

Likewise, the Clock Tower and the Japanese government aren't all that chummy, what with each party being incredibly xenophobic, negating 3.

It is a pretty safe bet to say that Shirou is the only Magus currently in that city. In fact, an argument could be made that he is THE Magus of Shin Tokyo, like Rin was THE Magus of Fuyutsuki city, since it's his family's city. :lol:
This reminds me of when someone pointed that fact out and MIB was afterwards considered to be weaker then Sekirei canon. I honestly never got that view. In twenty years MIB made their own city using just their own assets. The first group that comes to mind that managed to make their own city is NERV who had a good chunk of the world's resources backing them. If anything MIB is more impressive to me for doing that.
MBI, dude. MBI.

We will not involve the MIB under any circumstances.
Damnit! :headbanger: :headbanger: :headbanger: Didn't even notice.

Note to self: always have wiki open for spell check.

@Wheeljack: Actually In Flight says in the first or second chapter that it doesn't take place in Tokyo like canon does. I'll try to find the quote latter.

Edit: After looking through the first five chapters and not finding the quote that I thought I remembered I'll coincide that I was wrong. If I find proof that I wasn't I'll post it here.
MIB: Protecting the Earth from the scum of the universe.

<a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RYNVqmWYlk' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Shiro you've got to learn we're just part of something bigger. </a>

:D

Oh man now I have an image of S being swarmed by his Seikeri while making a call to Zed

"PLEASE HELP ME! ZED!"
 

Seed00

Well-Known Member
#53
Mercsenary said:
randombugger said:
Seed00 said:
randombugger said:
Deathwings said:
Shin Tokyo is NEW, recently built city that was created entirely on Minaka's order specifically to serve as the stage of his Sekirei Plan. It is Minaka's, nobody else. So 1, 2 and 4 would be hard to pull off to say the least.

Likewise, the Clock Tower and the Japanese government aren't all that chummy, what with each party being incredibly xenophobic, negating 3.

It is a pretty safe bet to say that Shirou is the only Magus currently in that city. In fact, an argument could be made that he is THE Magus of Shin Tokyo, like Rin was THE Magus of Fuyutsuki city, since it's his family's city. :lol:
This reminds me of when someone pointed that fact out and MIB was afterwards considered to be weaker then Sekirei canon. I honestly never got that view. In twenty years MIB made their own city using just their own assets. The first group that comes to mind that managed to make their own city is NERV who had a good chunk of the world's resources backing them. If anything MIB is more impressive to me for doing that.
MBI, dude. MBI.

We will not involve the MIB under any circumstances.
Damnit! :headbanger: :headbanger: :headbanger: Didn't even notice.

Note to self: always have wiki open for spell check.

@Wheeljack: Actually In Flight says in the first or second chapter that it doesn't take place in Tokyo like canon does. I'll try to find the quote latter.

Edit: After looking through the first five chapters and not finding the quote that I thought I remembered I'll coincide that I was wrong. If I find proof that I wasn't I'll post it here.
MIB: Protecting the Earth from the scum of the universe.

<a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RYNVqmWYlk' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Shiro you've got to learn we're just part of something bigger. </a>

:D

Oh man now I have an image of S being swarmed by his Seikeri while making a call to Zed

"PLEASE HELP ME! ZED!"
No MIB references, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONONONOOOOOOOOOO!
 

sworded

Well-Known Member
#54
randombugger said:
@Wheeljack: Actually In Flight says in the first or second chapter that it doesn't take place in Tokyo like canon does. I'll try to find the quote latter.

Edit: After looking through the first five chapters and not finding the quote that I thought I remembered I'll coincide that I was wrong. If I find proof that I wasn't I'll post it here.
You weren't wrong from Ch 3:
I was kind of proud that my little sister had managed to make it into a university in the city. Shin Tokyo was still a fairly new city, and besides boasting some of the frontrunners when it came to technological advances it also laid claim to the fact that every university in its limits was regarded amongst the best in the country.
I raised this point myself in the Fate Udates thread.
 

marthf1

Well-Known Member
#55
Unless Shin Tokyo was built upon the remains of another province, or something else massive, it doesn't make sense. It's like saying he built Shin New York City or Shin Los Angeles. How does that work? Then considering how space limited Japan is....

My assumption would be that MBI bought out Tokyo & that it is essentially a 'new' city in that sense, with all it's bureaucracy & other government functions replaced. Especially considering the items Wheeljack & Ghostface researched.
 

SoftRogue

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#56
Speaking of Shiki, I got a quick question...would he be able to use his Mystic Eyes of Death Perception on an Sekirei?

On one hand I know that Sekirei (pardon my meme) die when they are killed. But, on the other hand, they are Types (i.e. alien) which means that it's entirely probable that their concept of death is so removed from how humans understand it that the MEoDP might not be able to interpret it.
 

Sirian

Well-Known Member
#57
SoftRogue said:
Speaking of Shiki, I got a quick question...would he be able to use his Mystic Eyes of Death Perception on an Sekirei?

On one hand I know that Sekirei (pardon my meme) die when they are killed. But, on the other hand, they are Types (i.e. alien) which means that it's entirely probable that their concept of death is so removed from how humans understand it that the MEoDP might not be able to interpret it.
That would depend upon the writer, but as you pointed out they look pretty human and they die when they are killed so it would (in my opinion) be a bit unreasonable to argue that his eyes would not work.

Though this depend upon the Sekireis purpose and how you define MEoDP (they are a tricky matter)
 

nick012000

Well-Known Member
#58
SoftRogue said:
Speaking of Shiki, I got a quick question...would he be able to use his Mystic Eyes of Death Perception on an Sekirei?

On one hand I know that Sekirei (pardon my meme) die when they are killed. But, on the other hand, they are Types (i.e. alien) which means that it's entirely probable that their concept of death is so removed from how humans understand it that the MEoDP might not be able to interpret it.
The Sekirei are aliens, but they're not Types. The Types are the Ultimate Beings created by their planets; there can only ever be one at at a time for any particular planet as a result, but definition.

That's an error that Gabriel Blessing, and, presumably, the Shirou in his story made. If he called the Sekirei Types where someone who'd know better like Rin, Arcueid, or Ciel could hear him, I doubt that they'd hesitate to correct him.
 
#59
well IIRC shiro is going to the definition he is more familiar, and... nevermind GB is wrong in his definition of TYPE, (the last sekirei could count as TYPE?)
 

ringlhach

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#60
Shirou called the Seikirei Types; that may be deliberate, and maybe not, but it's probably worth pointing letting Gabriel Blessing know, just in case.

On the flip side, Shirou also called the True Ancestors Types. so hopefully it's just an in-story thing.
 

shiki

Well-Known Member
#61
Amodelsino said:
shiki said:
A well made Sword with an A-rank attack rating.

And if I remember correctly, an A-rank attack is the equivalent to the power of a C rank noble phantasm (generally, I think I read this before the wiki went down in 2009?).

So the sword would still be beastly if handed to someone else, it just wouldn't be anywhere near as strong as the real one that Saber uses.

Edit: I am confused at what you guys consider "use". Do you mean activating the NP or just plain swinging it around.

If you mean activating it, then yeah. Saber is probably the only one that can use it without fucking themselves up.

If you are talking about just swinging it about, that is a different story.
Right, that's why Saber always has A rank attac- oh wait.

That's not how it works. It's just a sharp, really tough sword when it's not activated. The attack rating (STR) comes from the fact that Saber's swings are really strong, and she's still only got B under Shirou and Kiritsugu.

Also, not just without fucking themselves up, she's literally the only one who can use it (and Shirou's the only one who can use the traced version). The Noble Phantasm is the activated ability. The sword is just a sword.
I never disagreed about the fact that only Saber can use Excalibur to it's fullest extent. That is a fact that can't be refuted because it is canon. The reason I wrote only Saber is able to use the NP ( as in the large beam of light) without "fucking themselves up" earlier was because of anomaly of Shirou. He CAN use it ( again, meaning the big beam of light), but he would be messed up/burned out/dead after it. That is something that isn't a point of contention.

All I was positing is that Excalibur, as in the weapon itself and not the activated culmination of Saber's legend, is a very powerful weapon regardless of who is wielding it.

Even as a sword that can not be used in it's fullest capacity, it is still a weapon that is created by the the imagination of human and solidified by being tied to a myth. That make it MORE than just a sword.

A Noble Phantasm ISN'T just the activated ability. It is one thing that embodies Saber's legend as well as the its history and the weapon itself. (this is why I had" use" in quotes).

As for Saber's STR stat ( as well as her DEF and AGL), we all know that that is based on how much prana that she has available because of her inherent mana burst ability. This combined with Excalibur's ability to focus the prana of the user, it gives some one the potential to pull of a high rank normal attack. So even if she has B strength it is possible to give higher than B ranks attacks.

Not that it matters, because all I was saying was that, assuming someone got access to Excalibur itself (pretty much impossible because the Lady of the Lake has it) and they haven't created their own legend with the weapon (thus making Excalibur something else; ex. transition of Gram to Caliburn and creating a different NP based on this hypothetical new legend) it would should (hypothetically) be able to hand out A-rank normal attacks because of the items status as a divine armament.

TL;DR: I wasn't disagreeing with you. I was just commenting on the proposal by nick012000 about the possibility that Miya can use it.

It can be reasonably argued that, if she found the weapon somehow ( which as I stated earlier is not very probable assuming that Shirou doesn't pull his copied version it out of his RM), she would be able to use it as a weapon ( assuming she knows how to use European styled weaponry) and it would be very powerful regardless of her inability to activate it.
 

nick012000

Well-Known Member
#62
ringlhach said:
Shirou called the Seikirei Types; that may be deliberate, and maybe not, but it's probably worth pointing letting Gabriel Blessing know, just in case.

On the flip side, Shirou also called the True Ancestors Types. so hopefully it's just an in-story thing.
He acknowledged that he had made a mistake in one of his author's notes at the beginnings of each chapter, and then said he was going to keep doing it since it gave him something else to call the Sekirei other than "aliens". <_<
 

Shiakou

Well-Known Member
#63
nick012000 said:
ringlhach said:
Shirou called the Seikirei Types; that may be deliberate, and maybe not, but it's probably worth pointing letting Gabriel Blessing know, just in case.

On the flip side, Shirou also called the True Ancestors Types. so hopefully it's just an in-story thing.
He acknowledged that he had made a mistake in one of his author's notes at the beginnings of each chapter, and then said he was going to keep doing it since it gave him something else to call the Sekirei other than "aliens". <_<
There's something else at work here.

The thing about aliens not being kill-able by the MEoDP is because they (the aliens) don't have a link to Akasha.

But is it possible for a race that stays long enough on Earth to develop a link to Akasha? For them to, over time, cease to be "aliens"?

I think it's possible, because the True Ancestors and original Dead Apostles were based on alien (Type Moon) as well as Earth (Gaia) so, um, yeah.

Besides, it solves the question of "What if Shirou and Sekirei X have a baby?" :D
 

nick012000

Well-Known Member
#64
Shiakou said:
nick012000 said:
ringlhach said:
Shirou called the Seikirei Types; that may be deliberate, and maybe not, but it's probably worth pointing letting Gabriel Blessing know, just in case.

On the flip side, Shirou also called the True Ancestors Types. so hopefully it's just an in-story thing.
He acknowledged that he had made a mistake in one of his author's notes at the beginnings of each chapter, and then said he was going to keep doing it since it gave him something else to call the Sekirei other than "aliens". <_<
There's something else at work here.

The thing about aliens not being kill-able by the MEoDP is because they (the aliens) don't have a link to Akasha.

But is it possible for a race that stays long enough on Earth to develop a link to Akasha? For them to, over time, cease to be "aliens"?

I think it's possible, because the True Ancestors and original Dead Apostles were based on alien (Type Moon) as well as Earth (Gaia) so, um, yeah.

Besides, it solves the question of "What if Shirou and Sekirei X have a baby?" :D
I'm pretty sure that everything has a link to Akasha. Aliens just don't have a link to Gaia; they have a link to their homeplanet instead.
 

AbyssalDaemon

Well-Known Member
#65
SoftRogue said:
Speaking of Shiki, I got a quick question...would he be able to use his Mystic Eyes of Death Perception on an Sekirei?

On one hand I know that Sekirei (pardon my meme) die when they are killed. But, on the other hand, they are Types (i.e. alien) which means that it's entirely probable that their concept of death is so removed from how humans understand it that the MEoDP might not be able to interpret it.
Most likely. From what we get to see of them their 'concept of death' seems roughly on par with humanities. And more importantly they unlike say Type Mercury actually have a concept of death.

...Amusingly they're actually less alien then most of the things that Shiki has encountered when you get down to it.
 

Amodelsino

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#66
I took the concept of death thing Venus was talking about to be less that they were aliens and more that they simply didn't die when they were destroyed.

They don't have a concept of death to us because our understanding is that you die when your body is damaged or destroyed, whereas they just create new ones (even though it takes awhile). I imagine if Gaia could actually create an Aristotle it wouldn't have a concept of death either, because that's just how they work.

Then again, Sekirei don't seem to die either, they just go into a never-ending stasis. So maybe they don't have our concept of death.

shiki said:
All I was positing is that Excalibur, as in the weapon itself and not the activated culmination of Saber's legend, is a very powerful weapon regardless of who is wielding it.
And I'm saying you're just making that up. An object doesn't need any intrinsic power for someone to use it for A rank attacks, as Herakles shows when he kicks Saber's arse with a piece of rock. Unless it is wielded by it's owner, the sword is no more 'powerful' than any other sword, save the fact it's (seemingly) unbreakable.
 

ttestagr

Well-Known Member
#67
*Sigh*

You are being disingenuous Amodelsino by bringing up Herakles. He doesn't have any special weapon, he's all about the skills. We see this when Shirou pulls off Nine Lives through the club, that the Noble Phantasm isn't some weapon but a skill that Herk can pull off through multiple weapons.

Excalibur is not just one of the types of Noble Phantasms that replicate a legendary feat the Servant managed in life (like for example the Fourth War's Assassin that turned one man with multiple personalities into a god damn army.)

Excalibur is also a conceptual weapon of the highest order, the greatest holy sword ever created. By definition, it is greater than any other and highly magical on its own considering the actual sword itself was forged not from metal but the wishes of mankind:
Kiritsugu and Irisviel went back to their own rooms, opened the long box entrusted to them by the head of family, and were mesmerized by its contents.

"Who would've thought, they were actually able to find this thing..."

The usually composed Kiritsugu right now seems deeply impressed.

A scabbard.

Made of gold and decorated with dazzling blue enamel; this sort of luxurious equipment should be called a treasure to show dignity and nobility like a crown or a scepter as opposed to a weapon. Engraved into the middle is an inscription of the long lost Fairy Letters, proving this scabbard is not a work of man.

"... Why isn't there the slightest flaw? Is this really the genuine relic made from an era over one thousand five hundred years ago?"

"This thing is a type of Conceptual Weapon. It definitely won't deteriorate physically, not mentioning that it's a holy relic that will be used as a catalyst. This treasure lies in the realm of magic."

Irisviel took out the golden scabbard from the box with an inside lining carefully, holding it in her hands.

"Legend says keeping this scabbard on one's body will heal the wounds of its possessor and can stop aging... of course, the mentioned facts are magical powers provided by its 'original owner.'"
"Meaning as long as the Heroic Spirit summoned is functional, this thing itself can be used as a 'Master's Noble Phantasm.'"
Saying that it is seemingly unbreakable but otherwise just a normal sword is just wrong. Using it as a Noble Phantasm is not possible, but it is still a conceptual weapon which by definition is greater than normal. Not Noble Phantasm good, but still godly. Especially in Excalibur's case, as 'the greatest holy sword.'




Now it isn't going to win any battles on its own. Even with
 

B.B. Rain

Well-Known Member
#68
So...Not exactly immeadiately relevant, but I was wondering.

Hill of Swords was Post-Fate (w/ elements of UBW) Pre-death EMIYA dropped into Familair of Zero. In Flight is Post-UBW Shirou dropped into Sekirei.

Any speculation as to the HF-Shirou fic? Or Hollow Ataraxia? Or both?
 

Amodelsino

Well-Known Member
#69
ttestagr said:
*Sigh*

You are being disingenuous Amodelsino by bringing up Herakles.á He doesn't have any special weapon, he's all about the skills.á We see this when Shirou pulls off Nine Lives through the club, that the Noble Phantasm isn't some weapon but a skill that Herk can pull off through multiple weapons.

Excalibur is not just one of the types of Noble Phantasms that replicate a legendary feat the Servant managed in life (like for example the Fourth War's Assassin that turned one maná with multiple personalities into a god damn army.)á

Excalibur is also a conceptual weapon of the highest order, the greatest holy sword ever created.á By definition, it is greater than any other and highly magical on its own considering the actual sword itself was forged not from metal but the wishes of mankind:
Kiritsugu and Irisviel went back to their own rooms, opened the long box entrusted to them by the head of family, and were mesmerized by its contents.

"Who would've thought, they were actually able to find this thing..."

The usually composed Kiritsugu right now seems deeply impressed.

A scabbard.

Made of gold and decorated with dazzling blue enamel; this sort of luxurious equipment should be called a treasure to show dignity and nobility like a crown or a scepter as opposed to a weapon. Engraved into the middle is an inscription of the long lost Fairy Letters, proving this scabbard is not a work of man.

"... Why isn't there the slightest flaw? Is this really the genuine relic made from an era over one thousand five hundred years ago?"

"This thing is a type of Conceptual Weapon. It definitely won't deteriorate physically, not mentioning that it's a holy relic that will be used as a catalyst. This treasure lies in the realm of magic."

Irisviel took out the golden scabbard from the box with an inside lining carefully, holding it in her hands.

"Legend says keeping this scabbard on one's body will heal the wounds of its possessor and can stop aging... of course, the mentioned facts are magical powers provided by its 'original owner.'"
"Meaning as long as the Heroic Spirit summoned is functional, this thing itself can be used as a 'Master's Noble Phantasm.'"
Saying that it is seemingly unbreakable but otherwise just a normal sword is just wrong. Using it as a Noble Phantasm is not possible, but it is still a conceptual weapon which by definition is greater than normal. Not Noble Phantasm good, but still godly. Especially in Excalibur's case, as 'the greatest holy sword.'




Now it isn't going to win any battles on its own. Even with
First off, you didn't finish your post.

Second you are spouting things that have nothing to do with what I was saying. I didn't mention Nine Lives, I said Herakles surpasses Sabers attack power when using a rock, showing that her attack power does not prove any power in Excalibur (when used as a sword). Not to mention he can't use those skills as a Berserker, so they have no bearing on my point.

Thirdly, Excalibur is not a conceptual weapon. Avalon is. Excalibur embodies no concept, it just converts prana into light for use as an attack. The greatest holy sword part is the fact it can use that attack. Excalibur The Sword of Promised Victory is the use of that attack. When that attack can't be used, it's just a good sword. The object itself has no power (of any kind) that can be used by anyone but it's owner.
 

ttestagr

Well-Known Member
#70
:sweat2:

Are you being serious? That is my entire point. Herk's attack power is all about his own skill and strength. He doesn't use any special weapons but he's one of the best just because he's that good. Nine Lives is the uttermost showing of that fact.

And of course Excalibur is a conceptual weapon. The greatest of holy swords, it conceptualizes the users' as a blade of light. Mechanically, that is the reason Saber is the only one that can use it as such. She's the only one holy enough, Gilgamesh explains it quite definitively.
 

Amodelsino

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#71
The light is not a concept, it's just the Noble Phantam's ability. Excalibur does not attack with a concept. It attacks with prana converted into light.

The reason Saber is the only one who can use it is because that's how Noble Phantasm's work. Lancer is the only one who can use Gae Bolg, Medea Rule Breaker etc.
 

ttestagr

Well-Known Member
#72
You are wrong:

The time was ripe.

Pouring all the strength in her body into the two arms grasping the hilt tightly, the King of Knights lifted the golden sword up high.

Light gathered. As if illuminating this holy sword was its ultimate duty, the light condensed further, merging into a blinding brilliance.

At the fierceness and purity of this beam of light, no one could speak a single word.

It was the gallant figure of a knight who once shone the light of purification upon into a battle-ravaged world, a darkness blacker than night.

Unyielding for ten years, undefeated in twelve battles. These peerless feats of arms and this glory were eternal, transcending time.
This shining sword itself is the nostalgic, sorrowful, and exalted dream of all warriors past, present and future who stand at the brink of death on the battlefield û the crystallization of the prayer named ægloryÆ. Proudly uplifting this will, ascertaining that this faith will be seen to its end, the king of eternal victory now loudly declared the true name of this miracle she held in her hands. It was û ôEx û calibur!!!ö
This shining sword itself is the nostalgic, sorrowful, and exalted dream of all warriors past, present and future who stand at the brink of death on the battlefield û the crystallization of the prayer named ægloryÆ. Proudly uplifting this will, ascertaining that this faith will be seen to its end, the king of eternal victory now loudly declared the true name of this miracle she held in her hands. It was û ôEx û calibur!!!ö

This shining sword itself is the nostalgic, sorrowful, and exalted dream of all warriors past, present and future who stand at the brink of death on the battlefield û the crystallization of the prayer named ægloryÆ.

Proudly uplifting this will, ascertaining that this faith will be seen to its end, the king of eternal victory now loudly declared the true name of this miracle she held in her hands.

It was û

ôEx û calibur!!!ö

Archer, standing on the high arch of the bridge and looking down upon all, couldnÆt help but have a smile emerging on his face when he saw this light of destruction that burnt and consumed all.

ôDo you see it, King of Conquerors? This is SaberÆs light.ö

Archer addressed the empty space beside him. Rider, who had just experienced a merciless fight, was letting the chariot pulled by divine bulls remain still in the air, and was gazing dazedly at the ultimate light Excalibur was emanating.

ôDo you still not want to acknowledge her after witnessing that ray of light?ö

Rider snorted, dismissing ArcherÆs question. However, what was on his face as not despite or mockery, but a solemnity as if he was looking out over a thing of tragic grandeur.

ôIt was indeed because she took upon her shoulders the hope of every man of the time that sheÆs able to display such might û itÆs painful precisely because it is so blindingly brilliant. Who could have thought that the person carrying such a heavy weight is only a little girl who liked to dream?ö

On the river surface, which the two of them looked down upon, SaberÆs slender body was huffing painfully due to the intensive battle to the death that had just ended. Rider only knew what kind of heaviness was piled upon her young and delicate shoulders thanks to last nightÆs quiz. For him, whose personality is open and straightforward, this kind of æway of livingÆ is absolutely unforgivable.

ôThis kind of little girl is truly the final result of someone who discarded youthful romance and dreams, discarded love, and sunk into the eternal curse of æidealsÆ. It is truly painful, and one canÆt bear to look upon it anymore.ö

ôThis is exactly whatÆs lovely about her, isnÆt it?ö

Different from the King of ConquerorÆs fully melancholic expression, the golden ServantÆs smile was immeasurably obscene and did not hide his dirty desires at all.

ôThe overly-mighty ideal that she harbored within her would burn her into nothing but ashes at the end. Those tears that she would shed at her final momentà I imagine it would be very sweet to the taste.ö
Before it was a Noble Phantasm, it was a conceptual weapon. To admit that Avalon was and Excalibur is not is also outrageously stupid.
 

Genericrandom

Well-Known Member
#73
More like Type Miya and the others are just Sekirei. It depends if it's a deliberate misunderstanding/lack of knowledge Shirou was given, Shiriou as a character being written as doing that because he's lazy/ign'int, or GB not knowing. Honestly though, I'd argue it doesn't matter, unless a character that knows shows up. Could be a point for later in the story/a (theoretical) sequel though.
 

Muramasa

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#74
<a href='http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6556187/10/In_Flight' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>'In Flight' Chapter 10</a> is up.
 

Seed00

Well-Known Member
#75
chapter 8

Updated on the third

Chapter 9

Updated on the 9th

Chapter 10

The 18th

Next update: the 30th?

Apparently, he's going to keep apologizing every time he finds new info for the story. He's *really* trying to compensate for his lack of knowledge for the FSN section, and apparently he got hooked.
 
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