What are your Plans for the Next Console Generation?

[Altered Nova]

Anyone here pre-order a PS4 or Xbox One? If so, why, and what games are you looking forward to the most? Are you planning to wait until the inevitable hardware revisions and price drops a few years down line? Have you sworn off of console gaming for good? Or are you one of those strange deviants who bought a Wii U (I kid, I kid!)?

Myself, I just don't see the point to buying a console at launch. Both Sony and Microsoft have shit launch title lineups for the new consoles and they have both made their disdain for backwards compatibility clear so there's not going to be anything good to play on the new consoles for a long time. The Wii U is better in that regard in being able to play Wii games but it still has only a handful of decent Wii U games available.

I'm also not to fond of these mandatory 500+mb patch downloads that are required for all the consoles at launch before you can play them. Preload the patches on the hard drives or at least include them on a disc or something! Or the fact that they both have only 500gb hard drives despite next gen download titles being 40-50 gigs in size (going by Call of Duty Ghost's install size anyway). At least you can swap the hard drive on the PS4 for a bigger one but Microsoft apparently doesn't care if their customers can only download like 10 games ever. I guess Microsoft intends to make all their profits from Xbox Gold subscription fees rather than selling digital games and movies? Yeah I'm not interested in that.

I might still get a PS4 because the PS3 had some great exclusives, and their subscription service covers all three of their devices for one price, because you can still stream netflix on it and such without a Plus subscription and because it's significantly cheaper. I really can't see any reason to get an Xbox One though, everything about it just seems designed to limit and extract money from their customers and it just screams "prioritize profits over customer satisfaction!" to me. I guess the new more powerful Kinect seems kind of interesting but it depends on whether any good games actually utilize it. I haven't touched my 360 kinect in years and only then briefly for the novelty factor.

 

[Contrabardus]

I'll get a PS4 in a year or two once the price drops and there's some interesting exclusive software available. Not interested in either one at the moment. I have no interest in ever owning an Xbox 1. Just don't care for too much about it and the exclusives are likely to either be unimpressive, or will be available on PC at a later date.

 

[Knyght]

What are your Plans for the Next Console Generation?

Wave as it passes me by. ^_^

To be honest, I've got a backlog of 360 games I'd like to play before thinking about another console and I don't go on it that much anyway. A few years into the future I might consider an PS4 (Xbone doesn't look at all attractive) but I'd get a PS3 instead/first so I can try out the exclusives I missed out. Unless I can one day play them on the PS4 anyway.

 

[Watashiwa]

What are your Plans for the Next Console Generation?

Flip a coin as to whether I'm buying a 3DS XL or a 2DS. Maybe get a Wii U next year, after the Metroid Prime Collection is re-released.

Honestly, I'm way more excited about the Kickstarter games from last year rolling in than any number of console games. Regardless, buying a console at launch is for suckers.

 

[Fellgrave]

Eh, I'm with Contrabardus on this one. The PS4 in my opinion has a better line-up, but most of those games are several months away from release. The new Xbox has nothing of interest too me, and with its cost there's no way in hell I'll grab it. Heck, my new computer cost only a hundred dollars more and it's a really nice gaming rig.

I got a Wii U for Christmas or my birthday last year, and since then the only games I've played on it have been Warriors Orochi 3, and my old Wii games. The only game I'm really looking forward to for it is Bayonetta 2.

I'd get a PS3 instead/first so I can try out the exclusives I missed out. Unless I can one day play them on the PS4 anyway.

Apparently Sony is working on some sort of Cloud streaming system for emulating the PS3 on the PS4, so that might happen in the future.

 

[Nanya]

I want a PS4, but I'm going to wait to see what happens. Unless something really awesome comes out, I doubt I'll buy one until sometime next year.

 

[ragnarok1337]

I'm going to try my hand at building a rig.

 

[Knyght]

Does the 3DS count as next gen? Cuz imma get me some of that.

 

[Altered Nova]

I honestly can't recall a new console generation launch that received such lackluster response from gamers. People have been trashing the Wii U since it was launched and the "Xbone" since pretty much the instant it was announced. Even the PS4 has mostly been met with a resounding "meh" or "well it's better than the Xbox One and Wii U but that's not really saying much".

Combined with how the PS4 and Xbox One are basically just limited, glorified PCs I really gotta wonder just how many more console generations are left before everyone is just publishing games for the PC, various handheld consoles and whatever wacky unconventional console Nintendo has cooked up.

 

[trevelyan1983]

I didn't get a PS3 until late, late '07 - and then, only because it was the last hurrah of the Backwards Compatible models.

And that was with games out for it, and due out on it, that I was following and interested in. The latest load just don't inspire any enthusiasm in me.

So I'm going to stick with my glorified blu-ray player and work on my back catalogue. Which gets bigger every time something new appears on PSN.

 

[Nanya]

I honestly can't recall a new console generation launch that received such lackluster response from gamers. People have been trashing the Wii U since it was launched and the "Xbone" since pretty much the instant it was announced. Even the PS4 has mostly been met with a resounding "meh" or "well it's better than the Xbox One and Wii U but that's not really saying much".

Combined with how the PS4 and Xbox One are basically just limited, glorified PCs I really gotta wonder just how many more console generations are left before everyone is just publishing games for the PC, various handheld consoles and whatever wacky unconventional console Nintendo has cooked up.

Let's be honest here, the last gen and the next gen just weren't GIANT LEAPS forward as far as gaming capacities were concerned.

Compare 8 bit to 16 bit to 32/64 bit to PS2/Xbox/Gamecube

Now compare how the PS3/360/Wii and PS4/X-1/WiiU are compared to them.

Not giant leaps at all.

 

[~NGD OMEGA~]

Really eventually things are just going to hit their peak graphics wise and then games are really going to have nowhere to go up from there. Really we've pretty much already hit the point we need to in terms of definition, anything further than this early next gen stuff is really just out and out overkill for massive diminishing returns. Only major thing to tackle from here is the 'Crowds of Nobody' issue and once that's solved there's nothing left by that point. Everything will be the same, and thanks to the healthy competition we won't have to deal with bullshit like $1000 graphics cards for all that long.

That said, I'm going to spend this new generation getting a PS3 and work on the backlog of good stuff I was interested in back then and wrote down on my list, paying special attention to the stuff that turned out to be good, while skipping stuff that I lost interest in as time went by or just turned out to be terrible, all at a very cheap price. Or free if I cave and get the PS+ apparently. Buying $60 games is for suckers and the impatient.

Helps admittedly that I don't give a shit about online multiplayer though. My strategy only works when the games in question don't stop working, or the community vanishes years down the line. :snigger:

 

[da_fox2279]

I'll admit to being interested in buying a Wii/Wii-U, but not for a while, and only because of the Mario games. Old School Mario player here.

The 3DS XL I'm also considering, cause it does seem to have some decent games, but I'm hesitant.

Question: I'm not really a DL type of guy, but I am interested in checking out Steam and what they have to offer. If I did become a Steam user, would it be better to buy a usb-plug controller, and does Steam carry a lot of the home console games (like Street Fighter X Tekken, or Ultimate Marvel VS Capcom)?

 

[FinalMax]

Me? I'll possibly get a 2DS (cause I don't care about the 3d shit but do care about some of the sweet sweet title 3ds has), maybe hope to win a PS4, and most likely get a new laptop within a year or two. Some online titles try to update graphics too much when they don't need to. League, I'm looking at you.

@da_fox: Yes, Steam does carry quite a few of the "home console titles" like Street Fighter X Tekken. There was recently a sale on Capcom stuff including that. For games that would feel better controlled with a controller, you might want the usb controller.

 

[Thardoc]

I'll probably grab a ps4 when destiny rolls in but if I do find one being sold I ll buy it... then resell lol...

 

[OniGanon]

Almost all the games I care about are multiplatform, therefore I can just get them on PC. The system with the most exclusive titles I want is Nintendo's.

That's how it played it this past generation, and it looks much the same for the next one so I'll be repeating the same plan:

Upgrade PC, buy Nintendo.

 

[core_88]

Pc all the way this gen and possibly fort the future ones if any appear, there is so much gold coming out through GoG and kickstarter that it will take all my free time.

 

[grant]

I intend to wait and see how the PS4 actually rolls out (no intention of getting the next Xbox). I would have delayed anyway, but reports that they reserve the right to monitor your conversations.... look. I can fully understand that terrorists and criminals actually would buy PS4's if they thought they could communicate safely over them. I just don't trust Sony to not abuse this. So I'll be waiting at least a year or two to see what happens.

 

[Shirotsume]

Almost all the games I care about are multiplatform, therefore I can just get them on PC. The system with the most exclusive titles I want is Nintendo's.

That's how it played it this past generation, and it looks much the same for the next one so I'll be repeating the same plan:

Upgrade PC, buy Nintendo.

This is basically the only smart way to do it, imo.

 

[Contrabardus]

I intend to wait and see how the PS4 actually rolls out (no intention of getting the next Xbox). I would have delayed anyway, but reports that they reserve the right to monitor your conversations.... look. I can fully understand that terrorists and criminals actually would buy PS4's if they thought they could communicate safely over them. I just don't trust Sony to not abuse this. So I'll be waiting at least a year or two to see what happens.

According to them it's got to do with what commercial advertisements you get on your dashboard and possibly during in game advertisements. [Not as in commercial breaks, but say on billboards or on in game screens for example]. They already keep track of purchasing habits through online activity to make movie and game recommendations on store pages and streaming services as it is.

You would also need to buy and install the camera. Xbox 1 comes with it, but it must be purchased separately for the PS4. There is no microphone on the base console itself that I'm aware of. Either way, you can simply not hook up the camera to the system. Both systems will run fine without it. Xbox originally stated that it was required, but backed off of that when Germany said the system would be illegal in their country if that was the case. Pressure from the US and EU markets got both companies to back off monitoring and anyone can opt out of it easily.

Also, the PS4 and Xbox 1 do not need an internet connection to run. If it's an issue to someone even with opting out being an option, it can be disconnected from the internet when not using it for multiplayer or an update and will run fine. Xbox 1 originally required an internet connection and both systems require day 1 patches at least, but neither must have a connection to play single player games.

The way I've heard it the monitoring is all about market focusing for advertisements. It's more valuable to them in that aspect than the sort of 'homeland' monitoring a lot of people fear.

Though, that's not to say they won't get their arms twisted into giving that sort of information up by whatever government in the future either. So I don't see it as a totally unfounded fear, just a distant and improbable one that isn't likely to be a true concern. To be honest, most conspiracy theorist and people who are paranoid about that sort of thing overestimate the government's interest in them as an individual.

Of course, that could end up rather embarrassing in its own right. I mean, really. Do you really want other people to see the sort of focused advertising you might get, especially if they know the nature of that sort of marketing? I've heard it might be able to go to even creepier lengths, such as recognizing packaging, keeping track of food items, or reading barcodes to learn your buying habits. As if the thing is digging through your garbage or something.

Who wants to be sitting with friends or a girlfriend and have an advertisement for Preparation-H, My Little Pony Friendship is Magic, Rupaul Perfume, Edible Underwear, KY Jelly, Depends, or whatever other embarrassing product to show up when you're playing CoD with some friends or while settling in to watch a movie with your significant other?

Of course, that could also be an interesting way for them to discourage 'opting out' of monitoring. Which both Microsoft and Sony have been forced to allow. Sending people who don't the most embarrassing advertisements possible and claiming that it can't be helped because they aren't able to pinpoint interests without the monitoring technology.

Even then, I will most assuredly be opting out of any monitoring should I purchase either of the new consoles. I likely won't even buy the camera for the PS4 as I don't care for that sort of gameplay and prefer a controller.

 

[grant]

I intend to wait and see how the PS4 actually rolls out (no intention of getting the next Xbox). I would have delayed anyway, but reports that they reserve the right to monitor your conversations.... look. I can fully understand that terrorists and criminals actually would buy PS4's if they thought they could communicate safely over them. I just don't trust Sony to not abuse this. So I'll be waiting at least a year or two to see what happens.

According to them it's got to do with what commercial advertisements you get on your dashboard and possibly during in game advertisements. [Not as in commercial breaks, but say on billboards or on in game screens for example].

Market focusing and all that. It's more valuable to them in that aspect than the sort of 'homeland' monitoring a lot of people fear.

Though, that's not to say they won't get their arms twisted into giving that sort of information up by whatever government in the future either. So I don't see it as a totally unfounded fear, just a distant and improbable one that isn't likely to be a true concern. To be honest, most conspiracy theorist and people who are paranoid about that sort of thing overestimate the government's interest in them as an individual.

Of course, that could end up rather embarrassing in its own right. I mean, really. Do you really want other people to see the sort of focused advertising you might get, especially if they know the nature of that sort of marketing?

Who wants to be sitting with friends or a girlfriend and have an advertisement for Preparation-H, My Little Pony Friendship is Magic, Rupaul Perfume, Edible Underwear, KY Jelly, Depends, or whatever other embarrassing product to show up when you're playing CoD with some friends or while settling in to watch a movie with your significant other?

Of course, that could also be an interesting way for them to discourage 'opting out' of monitoring. Which both Microsoft and Sony have been forced to allow. Sending people who don't the most embarrassing advertisements possible and claiming that it can't be helped because they aren't able to pinpoint interests without the monitoring technology.

Actually the whole terrorism/crime concern is far less objectionable to me, I just don't trust Sony to not give out my details to anyone who pays for it.

 

[Contrabardus]

Actually the whole terrorism/crime concern is far less objectionable to me, I just don't trust Sony to not give out my details to anyone who pays for it.

They definitely would. That's exactly what advertising focusing is. They'd be doing a bit of it themselves, but ads and services would be targeted towards your habits and interests based on the information they would collect. That would include selling your information to companies who make products their data thinks you might be interested in.

Though again, both consoles have been forced to offer a way for consumers to opt out of it so that no data is collected. You do need to actually take action to prevent them from collecting and using data from you.

I kind of wish being an Organ Donor worked that way to be honest. If you don't want to do it, you're a selfish prick, but it's your right. You should have to make an effort to get out of it instead of the other way around.

 

[ArchfiendRai]

I have ONE game that interests me that I can not get on PC.

InFamous.

Of course, one game isn't enough to make me buy a console, so for now, I have no plans for the next generation.

 

[nantukoprime]

I'm a first for this thread.

I have a PS4 pre-ordered, and already have three games (AC4, Knack, Killzone) and a controller.

I have a SSD that I'm going to stick in that thing the second it gets here.

I want to be there when the network breaks the first day.

I am the very model of an optimistic first adopter.

I also fully know that I played Genji: Days of Blade for way longer than anyone really needed to.

 

[da_fox2279]

Any rec's on a good usb-plug controller? What's the best?