Harry Potter What if Hermiones grandparents Weren't British?

Rift120

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#1
You know I've seen stories where Herimione parents are spies, rich, poor, actual wizards who left ehr to be adopted by the Grangers (Bleh), etc...

but i've never seen one where one of her parents was of forieng descent.. in paritcular for this idea, as teh description should warn the savvy, Hermione's Grandfather (not sure which side) earned his british citzenship serving Britain during WW2 in the Gurkha battalion...

WHich not only by default makes Hermiones Grandfather a Badass, also means she probably knows a bit about Nepal culture... and has Gurkha relatives who might not take kindly to old moldie shorts and his Death Wankers targeting family....

Hmm actually it may have Hermione relating more with Padme and Parvati culture wise...

And could probably have a fun scene of old Granddad visiting Harry his Granddaughter keeps talking about in gushing terms, just so Harry knows he needs to treat his granddaughter right....

Of course the real fun starts when DE start ebcoming active, and Hermione's Granddad calls in family and comrades to have 'fun' with these terroists on british soil...

thoughts?
 

Lord of Bones

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#2
Then the Death-Eaters kill them. Painfully.

The end.

EDIT: This idea goes right into the 'Muggles are OMGWTF KEWLZ and PWNZOR wizards!' cliche bin.
 

slasheh

Active Member
#3
or rather she wouldn't be Hermione but an OC with Hermione's name.
If her grandparents are from a sufficiently different culture to make a difference then her parents would also be different and it follows she would also be different.
 

wingthesword

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#4
What if Hermione's mother was the white sheep of the family, The Addams family that is!
 
#5
Lord of Bones said:
Then the Death-Eaters kill them. Painfully.

The end.

EDIT: This idea goes right into the 'Muggles are OMGWTF KEWLZ and PWNZOR wizards!' cliche bin.
It's kind of hard not to believe Muggles could kick the Wizarding World's ass with little effort. Wizards have no logic, as Voldemort and his cronies have aptly demonstrated. They also have an incredible ignorance of the Muggle World, and aren't really soldiers. You give any Muggle military basic knowledge of their abilities and it's hard to not see who the victor would be in any conflict.

As far as Hermione's parents being of foreign ancestry... Physically, we're only given "buck teeth" and "bushy hair".



I like Hermione being African in origin. Say one of her distant relatives is a powerful shaman with real magic. That'd be interesting.
 

GiantMonkeyMan

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#6
The reason wizards aren't logical is because magic isn't logical. Doing things like flying on a broomstick or turning a desk into a cow hardly conforms to the rules of physics that muggles are restricted to. A muggle soldier thinking tactically about assaulting a house for example (if it hasn't already been hidden behind charms to protect it) would blow/pick the door/window and have to proceed room by room. A wizard could turn himself invisible and silence any noises and apparate inside, murdering anyone inside with a silent Avada Kedavra. There's also the likes of dementors which can't be seen by muggles and magical traps/compulsion charms preventing muggles from assaulting anywhere successfully.

Of course, carpet bombing pretty much avoids those issues but no-one wants to bomb his own country, and the possibility that the wizards would just apparate/portkey out on the first sign of an explosion or even that flame-freezing charms coupled by impervious charms would prevent explosions from damaging wizarding areas would make the issue mute. The one advantage muggles have over wizards is that bullets travel faster than spells but all a wizard has to do is find one muggle, cast imperio and then send him back to kill anyone in his base. There are basically many methods and counter-methods to the 'war' between the two worlds.

The idea of Hermione having a Ghurka for a grandparent is funny, at the very least, but Ghurkas are over-rated anyway.

Also, black hermione is fucking cool as an idea.
 

Oni_kawaii

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#7
Andrew Joshua Talon said:
I like Hermione being African in origin. Say one of her distant relatives is a powerful shaman with real magic. That'd be interesting.
Even better how about an Aborigine.
Hermione had to have a good reason to pick Australia to dump her parents there.
 

Rift120

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#8
Oni_kawaii said:
Andrew Joshua Talon said:
I like Hermione being African in origin. Say one of her distant relatives is a powerful shaman with real magic. That'd be interesting.
Even better how about an Aborigine.
Hermione had to have a good reason to pick Australia to dump her parents there.
could have some fun with fantasy ideal of Australian outback magic and the dreamtime to with that idea....
 

Lord of Bones

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#9
Andrew Joshua Talon said:
As far as Hermione's parents being of foreign ancestry... Physically, we're only given "buck teeth" and "bushy hair".



I like Hermione being African in origin. Say one of her distant relatives is a powerful shaman with real magic. That'd be interesting.
You are aware that by that logic, I could just as well say Harry has green skin and Ron is of Inuit descent? That sort of logic simply doesn't work, because even the in-book drawings (I think), artwork from the Lexicon and JKR's approval of Emma Watson as Hermione's actress confirm Hermione as a pale-skinned brunette.

And Shaman? Real magic? I'd like to know where this 'real magic' comes from, because even in myth African shaman were just spiritual healers or malevolent shapeshifters.
 

Sledgehammer

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#10
Lord of Bones said:
Andrew Joshua Talon said:
As far as Hermione's parents being of foreign ancestry... Physically, we're only given "buck teeth" and "bushy hair".
SNIP

I like Hermione being African in origin. Say one of her distant relatives is a powerful shaman with real magic. That'd be interesting.
You are aware that by that logic, I could just as well say Harry has green skin and Ron is of Inuit descent? That sort of logic simply doesn't work, because even the in-book drawings (I think), artwork from the Lexicon and JKR's approval of Emma Watson as Hermione's actress confirm Hermione as a pale-skinned brunette.

And Shaman? Real magic? I'd like to know where this 'real magic' comes from, because even in myth African shaman were just spiritual healers or malevolent shapeshifters.
Hermione's grandpa was a spiritual healer and her grandma was a malevolent shapeshifter. There ya go.
 

Lord of Bones

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#11
Sledgehammer said:
Lord of Bones said:
Andrew Joshua Talon said:
As far as Hermione's parents being of foreign ancestry... Physically, we're only given "buck teeth" and "bushy hair".
SNIP

I like Hermione being African in origin. Say one of her distant relatives is a powerful shaman with real magic. That'd be interesting.
You are aware that by that logic, I could just as well say Harry has green skin and Ron is of Inuit descent? That sort of logic simply doesn't work, because even the in-book drawings (I think), artwork from the Lexicon and JKR's approval of Emma Watson as Hermione's actress confirm Hermione as a pale-skinned brunette.

And Shaman? Real magic? I'd like to know where this 'real magic' comes from, because even in myth African shaman were just spiritual healers or malevolent shapeshifters.
Hermione's grandpa was a spiritual healer and her grandma was a malevolent shapeshifter. There ya go.
Well, there goes any usefulness she has. British wizards are far more versatile than their African counterparts.
 

The Eromancer

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#12
Lord of Bones said:
Sledgehammer said:
Lord of Bones said:
Andrew Joshua Talon said:
As far as Hermione's parents being of foreign ancestry... Physically, we're only given "buck teeth" and "bushy hair".
SNIP

I like Hermione being African in origin. Say one of her distant relatives is a powerful shaman with real magic. That'd be interesting.
You are aware that by that logic, I could just as well say Harry has green skin and Ron is of Inuit descent? That sort of logic simply doesn't work, because even the in-book drawings (I think), artwork from the Lexicon and JKR's approval of Emma Watson as Hermione's actress confirm Hermione as a pale-skinned brunette.

And Shaman? Real magic? I'd like to know where this 'real magic' comes from, because even in myth African shaman were just spiritual healers or malevolent shapeshifters.
Hermione's grandpa was a spiritual healer and her grandma was a malevolent shapeshifter. There ya go.
Well, there goes any usefulness she has. British wizards are far more versatile than their African counterparts.
Well its Africa, what'd you expect?
 

Ordo

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#13
Well if you want Hermione to be black and have some 'firepower' can I make the following suggestions?

You could have her Uncle be Dr. Voodoo current Sorcerer Supreme of Earth



She studied for a time as his pupil but with his current workload he's no longer able to function as her mentor. Thus she was sent to Hogwarts to give her a more rounded view of the magical world and to allow her more opportunities to interact with children like herself.

You could have her Grandfater turn out to be Baron Samedi (on her mother's side)



Or something more traditional



ôGranddad!ö Hermione didnÆt quite run into his arms but is was close.

The older dark skinned man smiled down at her, embracing her with one arm, as he used his cane to steady himself. ôAh child, it warms my heart to see you again!ö

Harry noticed the DumbledoreÆs ever present smile faltered for just a moment, as the tall wizard strode forward. ôMr. Sammy is it? I apologize we were not told youÆd be visiting.ö Harry blinked as the Island man looked up at the Headmaster, something hot flashing through his eyes. For the briefest of moments he couldÆve sworn heÆd seen the manÆs skull, bleached white and grinning nastily. He wouldÆve dismissed the sight had he not seen Dumbledore suddenly pull up short.

ôI was in the neighborhood and thought IÆd visit my beloved granddaughter.ö The embrace ended as Hermione seemed to remember where she was and who sheÆd hugged her relative in front of. ôOh Grandfather, forgive me this is Harry Potter andàö

ôRon Weasly.ö He stepped forward pinning both boys with his eyes. He took their measure seeming to see through them. ôAs I understand it, I have the two of you to thank for my childÆs continued good health.ö His lips quirked upwards as he placed his cane before him, resting both hands a top the caneÆs pommel which had been worked into a silverish grinning skull. In one smooth motion he placed the cane under his arm and reached forward, clasping their shoulders. ôThank you boys, you have no idea how much she means to me.ö His eyes flashed again, only this time the look was more amused than the previous outright hostile glare. ôI owe you both one.ö


Finally I suggest that her Grandmother be Martha Liberty, an Afriacn-American Wizard on the White Council in 'The Dresden Files'.
 

Clell65619

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#14
wingthesword said:
What if Hermione's mother was the white sheep of the family, The Addams family that is!
- Or perhaps her mother's given name was Marilyn... and her maiden name Munster.
 

mandrke

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#15
what about Hermione being part Maori? i.e. one of her (grand)parents was an New Zealand ex-pat!
(insert Sheep Joke here!)
 
#16
Lord of Bones said:
Andrew Joshua Talon said:
As far as Hermione's parents being of foreign ancestry... Physically, we're only given "buck teeth" and "bushy hair".



I like Hermione being African in origin. Say one of her distant relatives is a powerful shaman with real magic. That'd be interesting.
You are aware that by that logic, I could just as well say Harry has green skin and Ron is of Inuit descent? That sort of logic simply doesn't work, because even the in-book drawings (I think), artwork from the Lexicon and JKR's approval of Emma Watson as Hermione's actress confirm Hermione as a pale-skinned brunette.

And Shaman? Real magic? I'd like to know where this 'real magic' comes from, because even in myth African shaman were just spiritual healers or malevolent shapeshifters.
Not to just run in and randomly state useless facts in slightly older threads, but the movie series is not the best place to compare characters. I think it was the third movie Lavender Brown was black and by the six movie she was white. But than again maybe being magical can give you that ability. Lavender could be a metamorph though and the new, younger and improved Tonks though. Now back to this weeks scheduled lurk.
 

crazyfoxdemon

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#17
immortal7 said:
Lord of Bones said:
Andrew Joshua Talon said:
As far as Hermione's parents being of foreign ancestry... Physically, we're only given "buck teeth" and "bushy hair".



I like Hermione being African in origin. Say one of her distant relatives is a powerful shaman with real magic. That'd be interesting.
You are aware that by that logic, I could just as well say Harry has green skin and Ron is of Inuit descent? That sort of logic simply doesn't work, because even the in-book drawings (I think), artwork from the Lexicon and JKR's approval of Emma Watson as Hermione's actress confirm Hermione as a pale-skinned brunette.

And Shaman? Real magic? I'd like to know where this 'real magic' comes from, because even in myth African shaman were just spiritual healers or malevolent shapeshifters.
Not to just run in and randomly state useless facts in slightly older threads, but the movie series is not the best place to compare characters. I think it was the third movie Lavender Brown was black and by the six movie she was white. But than again maybe being magical can give you that ability. Lavender could be a metamorph though and the new, younger and improved Tonks though. Now back to this weeks scheduled lurk.
Personally I don't even think of the movies when I try to imagine how any of the characters look.. It just ruins it for me..

Also with Hermione being black, It'd give the term 'Mudblood' a whole new angle... I mean Mud is traditionally dirty and brown and could concievably have been an insult to her Muggleborn status as well as her ethnicity...
 

tridentwatch

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#18
What if hermione was adopted and her parents are aliens simply posing as dentists in order to figure out american secrets on british soil

because aliens are intelligent that way.
 

crazyfoxdemon

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#19
tridentwatch said:
What if hermione was adopted and her parents are aliens simply posing as dentists in order to figure out american secrets on british soil

because aliens are intelligent that way.
:huh: ;) :blink: :blink: WHAT THE HELL???
 

Tentrees

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#20
:snigger: Better Idea, How about Grandfather Granger picked up grandma Granger in Germany as 'his best war trophy'? Grandma' maiden name being Von Roth a daughter to a concubine of one Gellart Grndlewald...How would that twist the British Purebloods.... :jawdrop: the Weasleys :drool: Dumbledore etc...
Especially when she reads about the troll incident and comes to hogwarts to check up on her grand daughter...wearing the SS Rank Oberststurmbahnspellfuher dueling coat (sans rank and insignia, but the spots they where in are clearly visable) she wore during the war. Especailly if there is family history between Dumbledore and her...

Hr: Nana! (missile like impact hug)...What are you doing here! ...Your a Witch.!

Nana is a stunning grey and brown haired and Blue eyed older lady with perfect Parisian French which she smashes Malformed down when he tries to intor himself) and speacks German with a Prussian Junkers accent. Carries a Lugerfeld wand not used much since 1945.

Can you see the tension from Dumbledore and older staff members who regcognize the jacket and even her. A lady they thought dead since 1945...GRIN

Harry and Hermione having no clue about who she is as a witch great her politely and Hermione gets a copy of Grans personel grimiore...unedited.

Thats a PLOT BUNNY for a Hermione not having British ancestors!
 

andaandyckas

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#21
Tentrees said:
:snigger: Better Idea, How about Grandfather Granger picked up grandma Granger in Germany as 'his best war trophy'? Grandma' maiden name being Von Roth a daughter to a concubine of one Gellart Grndlewald...How would that twist the British Purebloods.... :jawdrop: the Weasleys :drool: Dumbledore etc...
Especially when she reads about the troll incident and comes to hogwarts to check up on her grand daughter...wearing the SS Rank Oberststurmbahnspellfuher dueling coat (sans rank and insignia, but the spots they where in are clearly visable) she wore during the war. Especailly if there is family history between Dumbledore and her...

Hr: Nana! (missile like impact hug)...What are you doing here! ...Your a Witch.!

Nana is a stunning grey and brown haired and Blue eyed older lady with perfect Parisian French which she smashes Malformed down when he tries to intor himself) and speacks German with a Prussian Junkers accent. Carries a Lugerfeld wand not used much since 1945.

Can you see the tension from Dumbledore and older staff members who regcognize the jacket and even her. A lady they thought dead since 1945...GRIN

Harry and Hermione having no clue about who she is as a witch great her politely and Hermione gets a copy of Grans personel grimiore...unedited.

Thats a PLOT BUNNY for a Hermione not having British ancestors!
That has already been done, Tentress, At FF.net by DobbyElfLord at his Destiny Series. Here , read this part.
 

EspyLacopa

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#22
Lord of Bones said:
Then the Death-Eaters kill them. Painfully.

The end.

EDIT: This idea goes right into the 'Muggles are OMGWTF KEWLZ and PWNZOR wizards!' cliche bin.
I think it has more to do with the fact that even if they have shields that protect themselves from bullets, innate magic that may protect them from radiation, and wards that protect their homes from napalm. . .

They still bleed if you shove a sword in their gut.

There's on the number of at least 100x more muggles than magic users.
 

Lord of Bones

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#23
EspyLacopa said:
Lord of Bones said:
Then the Death-Eaters kill them. Painfully.

The end.

EDIT: This idea goes right into the 'Muggles are OMGWTF KEWLZ and PWNZOR wizards!' cliche bin.
I think it has more to do with the fact that even if they have shields that protect themselves from bullets, innate magic that may protect them from radiation, and wards that protect their homes from napalm. . .

They still bleed if you shove a sword in their gut.

There's on the number of at least 100x more muggles than magic users.
I like how any Muggle vs. Wizard debate assumes either side will be fighting Mahabharat-esque battles.
 

Tentrees

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#24
That has already been done, Tentress, At FF.net by DobbyElfLord at his Destiny Series. Here , read this part.

Its a good idea and placed in another setting and properly pointed out as being filced from his story its a good idea still.
 

EspyLacopa

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#25
Lord of Bones said:
EspyLacopa said:
Lord of Bones said:
Then the Death-Eaters kill them. Painfully.

The end.

EDIT: This idea goes right into the 'Muggles are OMGWTF KEWLZ and PWNZOR wizards!' cliche bin.
I think it has more to do with the fact that even if they have shields that protect themselves from bullets, innate magic that may protect them from radiation, and wards that protect their homes from napalm. . .

They still bleed if you shove a sword in their gut.

There's on the number of at least 100x more muggles than magic users.
I like how any Muggle vs. Wizard debate assumes either side will be fighting Mahabharat-esque battles.
I wasn't aware I implied that. 10 average people in a fight to the death against a single average witch/wizard? Yea, a few of the muggles would die. . .but so would the mage. Muggles win!
 
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