Ranma ½ What if... Ranma had never met the Tendos?

[Dumbledork]

I've seen more than one fic where Akane and Nabiki blame Ranma for all the crazy stuff that happens in Nerima. But without Ranma things would have gone very differently for the Tendos.

Kasumi would be married to Chardin and the Tendos would have lost their sign to the dojo destroyer. Happosai would probably be even more of a pest.

Does anyone know other events that aren't related to Ranma at all?

 

[goldenarms]

Well, the Gambling King would have still come for the house, and they would have no idea who's this Ranma guy that signed it over.

Consequentially, Soun might not be so open to the engagement if Ranma shows up after they just struggled to win back their house.

Oh, and Akane would be massacred by Kodachi in the Rhythmic Gymnastics event. Maybe literally.

 

[sworded]

Akane would still be mobbed every morning.

 

[cgobyd]

I forget but if Ranma had no idea about the Saotome/Tendo agreement then how did he sign over the Tendo's dojo?

 

[Dumbledork]

I forget but if Ranma had no idea about the Saotome/Tendo agreement then how did he sign over the Tendo's dojo?

Probably a plothole.

 

[goldenarms]

I forget but if Ranma had no idea about the Saotome/Tendo agreement then how did he sign over the Tendo's dojo?

Probably a plothole.

Basically.

 

[Tornado Ninja Fan]

Oh, and Akane would be massacred by Kodachi in the Rhythmic Gymnastics event. Maybe literally.

Oh, please. Kodachi ran away after she tried to ambush Akane the first time. When Kodachi attacked her from behind with a hammer the second time Akane was able to catch it and fling her away.

Ranma had such a hard time with Kodachi because he was still tired from a sleepless night of training, fighting in a style he had never used before, and having Ryoga chained to his arm.

On the other hand without Ranma Akane wouldn't even had that bit of training from Ryoga, since Ryoga wouldn't have a reason to go to Nerima.

And of course it doesn't make any sense that not one girl of the gymnastics team stayed around to train her.

 

[shioran toushin]

I forget but if Ranma had no idea about the Saotome/Tendo agreement then how did he sign over the Tendo's dojo?

Probably a plothole.

Basically.

IRC he signed a deed, he didn't have any idea of to whom the dojo belonged

 

[Drawde]

While in an allout fight Akane would probably beat Kodachi, it's not likely that she could win in a Martial Arts Gymnastics match. At least without a lot of training. I don't know if she'd expect quite so underhanded tactics from Kodachi, though if she did she'd do better.

Though she was getting better after less than a week of training under Ranma and Ryoga. Also, without Ranma there Akane might have asked for training from the girls.

 

[PCHeintz72]

Ehhh... Akane was hopeless with the tools for Rythmic Gymnastics...

I'm still of the opinion though that while Akane has strength... Kodachi would beat her in skills.

Kodachi is also the only native Nerima resident that is shown able to roofhop right from her intro.


As for what would be if Ranma never met the Tendos... Ranma did not create nearly all their issues... a lot falls on Kuno family and Soun.

Akane has the morning fights continue. A nice big fat loss to Kodachi... All three daughters have to deal with the Chardin incident thanks to Soun (remember, Ranma was the one to save them, not Soun). The family would have to deal with Happosai, and with the Gambler King. Akane likely would have to deal with having been kidnapped by Prince Toma (if movie continuity). Akane likely would have lost the dojo to the other Tendo sisters (Kurumi/Natsume) if OAV continuity. There is the Oni incident. I wonder if the Ghost Cat would have consdered one of the Tendos as a potential bride? How about that Brazzier Ghost that Soun / Genma were wasked to protect from being disturbed? A potential loss to the Old Shool Martial Arts (OAV continuity I think). Soun and Genma cheated that Shoji master, I bet that would have gone different with just Soun. I bet the Principal Kuno intro would have gone worse on Furinkan without Ranma.

I do not know if the Golden Pair incident would have stil occured. Possibly would have had to deal with Martial Arts Tea ceremony.

 

[Crusader]

Why does this somehow remind me of the the DC comics Elseworlds mini-series JLA: The Nail ?

 

[PCHeintz72]

Why does this somehow remind me of the the DC comics Elseworlds mini-series JLA: The Nail ?

Would not know... never heard of it.

 

[bissek]

That story basically goes: The Kents run over a nail and get a flat. Because they're busy changing the tire, they never notice Kal-El's escape pod crash land, never adopt Clark, and as a result Superman doesn't exist. A chain reaction of other events across the DC universe result.

 

[Crusader]

Why does this somehow remind me of the the DC comics Elseworlds mini-series JLA: The Nail ?

Would not know... never heard of it.

Maybe you should try reading some of the recommended DC comics stories in the future. I know I probably should read more of them.

That story basically goes: The Kents run over a nail and get a flat. Because they're busy changing the tire, they never notice Kal-El's escape pod crash land, never adopt Clark, and as a result Superman doesn't exist. A chain reaction of other events across the DC universe result.

But despite that the JLA was still formed, but in that Elseworld they were really having a much harder time taking on DC villains in a grittier and darker reality and it was taking a toll on them mentally and physically.

 

[shioran toushin]

and what of the dojo destroyer?, and wan't the GhostCat brought bi Xian Pu/Shampoo, there would be no need to bring Hinako, or at least not that soon in the timeline

 

[PCHeintz72]

Maybe you should try reading some of the recommended DC comics stories in the future. I know I probably should read more of them.

Nahhh... I generally stick with anime and sci fi. Only rarely does a cross with a superhero interest me.

I've branched out on special occasions for research reasons. For example, watched several different XMen cartoon series and took notes as research material for Ranma and XMen crosses. Aquired all of Sailor Moon anime (200 eps, + 3 movies + 3 specials) even further back and watched and took notes due to number of Ranma and SM crossover was running into at the time.

 

[cgobyd]

I've branched out on special occasions for research reasons. For example, watched several different XMen cartoon series and took notes as research material for Ranma and XMen crosses. Aquired all of Sailor Moon anime (200 eps, + 3 movies + 3 specials) even further back and watched and took notes due to number of Ranma and SM crossover was running into at the time.

... Wow ... That is dedication.

 

[Uldihaa]

Well, the Gambling King would have still come for the house, and they would have no idea who's this Ranma guy that signed it over.

But isn't that still Ranma affecting the Tendos?

If we're going to eliminate every Ranma-based effect on the Tendos, the Gambling King thing would also not happen.

Happosai would still happen, and that would probably lead to Taru at some point. But some of the stuff Happy does probably wouldn't happen, since it was aimed specifically at Ranma.

One of the Tendo daughters would have to marry Chardin.

Akane would probably lose to Kodachi and still have to deal with the Morning Idiots.

No Ukyo or Shampoo, so everything that happens because of them wouldn't occur. Same with Ryoga.

Would the Orochi thing still happen? I'm thinking probably yes, since Akane had met Shinnosuke as a child. Though without Ranma, Shinnosuke might die do to the Orochi blocking the Water of Life. I'm not sure Akane would be able to get the moss on her own.

Gyah, there's so many things that happen I can't sort them all out :wacko: .

No Hinako, maybe? But if the morning battle was still going on when Principle Kuno returned, then she might be brought in.

Tea Ceremony would probably depend on if a Tendo sister is captured instead of Ranma, so it's possible.

No Herb or Saffron though.

Would Tatewaki do his more extreme antics without Ranma's presence as a goad?

 

[goldenarms]

Well, the Gambling King would have still come for the house, and they would have no idea who's this Ranma guy that signed it over.

But isn't that still Ranma affecting the Tendos?

Yes, but the query was "what if Ranma never met the Tendos?"

He didn't have to meet them to lose the dojo to the Gambling King Which really shouldn't have counted at all, to be frank, but whatever...

Happosai would still happen, and that would probably lead to Taru at some point. But some of the stuff Happy does probably wouldn't happen, since it was aimed specifically at Ranma.

Happosai at the Tendos would definitely incur Taro at some point, though none of them would be able to deal with him. And Happosai would just about run roughshod over the Tendos.

No Ukyo or Shampoo, so everything that happens because of them wouldn't occur. Same with Ryoga.

Shampoo is a definite. Ukyo is sort of a toss-up. Ryoga could have shown up, but it would be in a completely different context, and he wouldn't have been fawning all over her.

Also add to the list, Akane would still be growing her hair out and still likely to be crushing on Dr. Tofu still.

Would the Orochi thing still happen? I'm thinking probably yes, since Akane had met Shinnosuke as a child. Though without Ranma, Shinnosuke might die do to the Orochi blocking the Water of Life. I'm not sure Akane would be able to get the moss on her own.

IIRC, Akane ran away from home due to Ranma's criticism of her cooking; she discovers the little horn in her room and decides to go back to Ryugenzawa(sp?). This is where they discovered that Akane can at least cook curry. So, if that's right, Akane wouldn't have ran off.

No Hinako, maybe? But if the morning battle was still going on when Principle Kuno returned, then she might be brought in.

I don't think she would have been. Without Ranma, the students would have most likely been shaved bald.

Would Tatewaki do his more extreme antics without Ranma's presence as a goad?

Unlikely. He might end up with the Wishing Sword, but he wouldn't be going much out of his way to date Akane. The Romeo and Juliet play, there would be at least Kuno and Gosunkugi trying to get a kiss with Akane. Maybe Happosai, too.

 

[zeebee1]

If Ranma never met the Tendos this would be in the idea thread.

 

[Uldihaa]

Well, the Gambling King would have still come for the house, and they would have no idea who's this Ranma guy that signed it over.

But isn't that still Ranma affecting the Tendos?

Yes, but the query was "what if Ranma never met the Tendos?"

Point. But I read:

I've seen more than one fic where Akane and Nabiki blame Ranma for all the crazy stuff that happens in Nerima. But without Ranma things would have gone very differently for the Tendos.

And it came across to me as 'Ranma causes crazy things to happen. But would crazy stuff have happened to the Tendos without him', since that is what is usually implied in fanfic when Akane/Nabiki blame Ranma for the crazy stuff. A sort of 'it's all Ranma's fault crazy stuff happens around here' thing.

So I just went with 'Ranma had no effect on the Tendos at all'.

I should pay more attention to topic-titles

IIRC, Akane ran away from home due to Ranma's criticism of her cooking; she discovers the little horn in her room and decides to go back to Ryugenzawa(sp?). This is where they discovered that Akane can at least cook curry. So, if that's right, Akane wouldn't have ran off.

So did she go back because she was mad at Ranma, or because she wanted to see Shinnosuke? I can't remember :unsure:

Ukyo is sort of a toss-up. Ryoga could have shown up, but it would be in a completely different context, and he wouldn't have been fawning all over her.

I could see Ukyo showing up, but probably only in passing while searching for Ranma. Ryoga might appear for the same reason. But nothing definite for either, I'd think.

Maybe Rouge? Didn't Taru steal her magnets or something, and that was why she was in Nerima?

So in the end, Ranma is central to a lot of the weirdness, but not all by any means.

 

[Dumbledork]

I had no idea the question was that ambiguous. Simply put. Genma decided not to take Ranma to Nerima (for whatever reason). What would happen to the Tendos if Ranma was not there to bring more chaos and trouble to Nerima than there is already.

 

[shioran toushin]

but also much of th trouble converges on Ranma because most of the time he solves the problem, or makes it worse.

 

[ringlhach]

Picolet Chardin would still come, Happi would still wake up (though not necessarily stick around); if Happi's there, then Taro would come, etc. Yeah, a lot of it's dependent on Ranma- but not nearly all.

Oh, and Akane would probably get expelled from school for being a disruptive influence. Can't see it happening to Kuno, though, despite it being his fault.

 

[ThreadWeaver]

I believe that Akane would probably have killed someone or been raped, being that the morning fights would have continued, and that even getting injured seems to have not discouraged them. Kuno might have decided to stop dicking around and beat her, and thus believe that she belongs to him, body and all.

Soun would probably accept payoff from the Kunos to not press charges, or even sell Akane to them, similar to the Chardin incident. Akane would either poison them when she tries to cook or live a miserable life with the Kunos if they have chefs. Or, she would have killed Kuno after a while by either punching him or malleting him.

Nabiki would probably get put in jail for her activities since she doesn't have Ranma to focus on.

Kasumi would probably be married to a Chardin. Tofu would probably snap and go after the Chardins.

Soun would then be all alone, with minimal income and no one to do all the chores for him, whining about how his life is so miserable, but never realizing that it was all his fault in the first place (no discipline to the younger two, selling off the youngest and oldest, sitting around feeling sorry for himself without actually doing anything about it.)

Ukyo wouldn't be there. The amazons wouldn't be there. Ryoga wouldn't know Akane from any other girl in the world.

The gambling king COULD try to show up with the fake deed, but would be laughed all the way to jail for fraud (how could a person that isn't on the deed (Ranma) of the property possibly sell it?). However, if Nabiki is already in Jail or Juvenile detention Soun might not have the spine to fight it off, so he might just accept it and be tossed into the street.