Ranma ½ What is a Ranma fanfic cliche?
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10 Yen battle where one slip up would have saddled her with the debt, the time that Nabiki took money from the principle to protect something (She was something like the 4th dragon.) Remember that the principle has been shown to use potentially lethal methods against those he disliked imagine what he would do if you cheated him. Then finally during the Gambling-King Arc wasn't it Nabiki who lost everything else while Ranma only lost the dojo.
And really before you go saying Nabiki can run circles around everyone think about how many stories where Nabiki even try's to do anything (I can think of only 3 story-lines where her involvment wasn't a stray comment or demanding money before she would tell someone the info they want to know.)
And really before you go saying Nabiki can run circles around everyone think about how many stories where Nabiki even try's to do anything (I can think of only 3 story-lines where her involvment wasn't a stray comment or demanding money before she would tell someone the info they want to know.)
canon Nabiki is too lazy to pull off anything truly Magnificient Bastardish most of the time, and usually she's too smart to try to pull off anything half-assed
usually...the engagement thing got out of her control
mostly, she's a sort of Lazy Genius Manipulative Bitch
I'm wondering if there is a manipulator version of Ax Crazy, because Complexity Addiction doesn't fit, it requires too much effort for her
she just likes to do the absolute minimum possible to wind up the toys and watch them run all at once
usually...the engagement thing got out of her control
mostly, she's a sort of Lazy Genius Manipulative Bitch
I'm wondering if there is a manipulator version of Ax Crazy, because Complexity Addiction doesn't fit, it requires too much effort for her
she just likes to do the absolute minimum possible to wind up the toys and watch them run all at once
I don't see it. Nabiki is a short-sighted, greedy, opportunistic bitch.
Whenever her schemes go beyond making a quick buck or conning some dope out of his lunch money she tends to get herself into huge trouble because she sucks at estimating the possible fallout of her schemes.
There's nothing genius or very manipulative about her.
If you can use those words to describe a Ranma 1/2 character at all it would be Ranma.
Whenever her schemes go beyond making a quick buck or conning some dope out of his lunch money she tends to get herself into huge trouble because she sucks at estimating the possible fallout of her schemes.
There's nothing genius or very manipulative about her.
If you can use those words to describe a Ranma 1/2 character at all it would be Ranma.
I agree here. Nabiki, for the most part is just lazy. She won't throw away a chance to make easy money, but neither does she seem to want to go all-out to make more either.
Someone made a comment earlier along the lines of - "lazy manipulative bitch". I agree with that. Just change it to "REALLY LAZY manipulative bitch".
Nabiki is more of a "reactive" character. i.e. you bother her, she strikes you back. For the most part, none of the other "heavy" hitters (Cologne, Happosai .. etc) ever had much of a need to cross her anyway (ignoring underwear).
Speaking of fanfic cliche's, does Nabiki REALLY care for Akane? I mean, she makes money selling pictures of her own sister!! (without said sister knowing it !!). And in a lot of fanfics, we see her getting "protective" about her family (at least, as far as Akane/Kasumi are concerned).
There are so many R+A fanfics where we see Nabiki threatening Ranma that, unless he takes care of Akane (may as well be Kasumi too), he'll hear it from her.
It's just soo un-canon of her character.
-chronodekar
Someone made a comment earlier along the lines of - "lazy manipulative bitch". I agree with that. Just change it to "REALLY LAZY manipulative bitch".
Nabiki is more of a "reactive" character. i.e. you bother her, she strikes you back. For the most part, none of the other "heavy" hitters (Cologne, Happosai .. etc) ever had much of a need to cross her anyway (ignoring underwear).
Speaking of fanfic cliche's, does Nabiki REALLY care for Akane? I mean, she makes money selling pictures of her own sister!! (without said sister knowing it !!). And in a lot of fanfics, we see her getting "protective" about her family (at least, as far as Akane/Kasumi are concerned).
There are so many R+A fanfics where we see Nabiki threatening Ranma that, unless he takes care of Akane (may as well be Kasumi too), he'll hear it from her.
It's just soo un-canon of her character.
-chronodekar
Nabiki does seem to care about her family, at least a little.
The only pictures we see her selling of Akane are of her working out. Annoying, but nothing bad. We also see her helping Akane "swim" while at the beach in one of the later arcs, with Akane using a diving mask, snorkle, and one of those doughnut-shaped flotation devises (what are they called?).
It's not much, but it's there.
The only pictures we see her selling of Akane are of her working out. Annoying, but nothing bad. We also see her helping Akane "swim" while at the beach in one of the later arcs, with Akane using a diving mask, snorkle, and one of those doughnut-shaped flotation devises (what are they called?).
It's not much, but it's there.
foesjoe said:
She could mean he has to take care of Akane financially. If Akane comes begging to Nabiki for money, Ranma will regret it 
And as for Nabiki "helping" Akane in the later swimming arc, it could just well be that she wanted to save money on potential damages. That, or just make sure that Akane didn't cause as usual a rukus.
-chronodekar
Started reading some older crossovers and come across several really annoying clichÚs. They've probably been mentioned before, but they're so bad I'm going to mention them again.
Due to some reason - usually because Akane or somebody else sent him flying - Ranma lands in another prefecture / town / country in a crossover chick's lap. He apologizes and introduces himself, using the incredibly over-used phrase "I'm Ranma Saotome, sorry 'bout this." in 9 cases out of ten.
Then the crossover chick manages to get Ranma to tell his life-story, which is usually told in a way that puts Ranma as a poor abused victim. The crossover chick's reaction always, without fail, is "Oh, you poor boy. To have led such a horrible life and put up with all that. You deserve better!"
Following that is the generic Ranma / crossover chick romance.
The whole scenario is so annoying.
People don't get regularly punted half-way across the globe in Ranma 1/2.
Ranma doesn't go around telling his life story to people he just met. He's barely told the Tendos anything and he's been living with them for months / years. And even if he did tell his life story to someone, I just can't see him telling it in such a way that would put him as a victim. He'd put a whole different spin on things, making himself out to be the hero and an incredibly awesome fighter.
The crossover character's reactions are also usually stupid. If Ranma tells his story with some modicum of truth and honesty, they shouldn't go "Oh, you poor misunderstood man, let me comfort you in my bosom", they should react more along the lines of "Well, that kind of sucks, but most of it is your own fault because you're an ass."
Stupid clichÚs. To quote Kyon: "It's so annoying." A lot of the time I don't read past this opening scenario in a story because it's so annoying and stupid.
But it's not only the moronic clichÚs that are annoying about this, it's the total lack of creativity. Ranma 1/2 is a series that's bursting with interesting and creative things a writer could use to facilitate a crossover. There's ridiculous inter-school sports competitions, magazine ads that let you order battle suits straight out of a mecha anime, ghosts and other supernatural creatures that show up and terrorize the populace, travelling salesmen who sell magical artefacts, and a ton of other stuff.
Why do writers insist on using that utterly stupid "Akane gets mad at Ranma and sends him flying half-way across the country" scenario?
Due to some reason - usually because Akane or somebody else sent him flying - Ranma lands in another prefecture / town / country in a crossover chick's lap. He apologizes and introduces himself, using the incredibly over-used phrase "I'm Ranma Saotome, sorry 'bout this." in 9 cases out of ten.
Then the crossover chick manages to get Ranma to tell his life-story, which is usually told in a way that puts Ranma as a poor abused victim. The crossover chick's reaction always, without fail, is "Oh, you poor boy. To have led such a horrible life and put up with all that. You deserve better!"
Following that is the generic Ranma / crossover chick romance.
The whole scenario is so annoying.
People don't get regularly punted half-way across the globe in Ranma 1/2.
Ranma doesn't go around telling his life story to people he just met. He's barely told the Tendos anything and he's been living with them for months / years. And even if he did tell his life story to someone, I just can't see him telling it in such a way that would put him as a victim. He'd put a whole different spin on things, making himself out to be the hero and an incredibly awesome fighter.
The crossover character's reactions are also usually stupid. If Ranma tells his story with some modicum of truth and honesty, they shouldn't go "Oh, you poor misunderstood man, let me comfort you in my bosom", they should react more along the lines of "Well, that kind of sucks, but most of it is your own fault because you're an ass."
Stupid clichÚs. To quote Kyon: "It's so annoying." A lot of the time I don't read past this opening scenario in a story because it's so annoying and stupid.
But it's not only the moronic clichÚs that are annoying about this, it's the total lack of creativity. Ranma 1/2 is a series that's bursting with interesting and creative things a writer could use to facilitate a crossover. There's ridiculous inter-school sports competitions, magazine ads that let you order battle suits straight out of a mecha anime, ghosts and other supernatural creatures that show up and terrorize the populace, travelling salesmen who sell magical artefacts, and a ton of other stuff.
Why do writers insist on using that utterly stupid "Akane gets mad at Ranma and sends him flying half-way across the country" scenario?
Ranma if he did decide to tell the person his life story, possible though not very likely considering he doesn't tell anyone anything about himself if he can avoid it, and assuming he doesn't make up the story entirely (he did do that a few times such as writing a play to get Taro's name changed and taking on aliases/pretending to be someone he isn't several times -Ranko, Kew, Yoiko, random Hawaiian girl, etc.) may very well make himself come off like a victim. He did after all do that a couple times in the manga for example to get Akane's sympathy he roughed himself up a bit and than was going to go to Akane barely walking using a stick as a crutch (he got interrupted pretty much every time he attempted that ploy for example by Kuno and would drop the ploy to beat Kuno up). Making himself out to be an incredible awesome fighter doesn't seem likely since he had a tendency to downplay his abilities such as in the first volume when he told Akane he knew a little martial arts or at school when he was verbally downplaying his acrobatic ability. Any story he makes up will not have the person thinking he is an ass and really most of it isn't his fault (thrown in a pit of cats, taken from his mother, engaged against his will, dragged to China, fiancees are violent, etc, -making himself come off as a victim will be extremely easy since he is often a victim of others/circumstance)
One clichÚ that really annoys me is Ranma's reaction to someone telling him about the birds and the bees and about how the female body works. I don't think I've ever seen a fic where he doesn't either get ill, squirm in his seat, or outright faint. Personally I've never seen anyone who got uncomfortable about learning about the facts of life.
I'd really like to read a fic where Ranma breaks every single clichÚ on purpose. Fo example, someone is about to tell him about the aforementioned facts just for him to have a reaction like this:
Ranma gives (Kasumi/Akane,/Nodoka/Tofu/Cologne/Setsuna/or whoever else ususally tells him) an 'Are you for real?' look before saying: "What do you think I am? 5 years old. I've known about this stuff for years."
I'd like to see him having reactions like that to every single clichÚ. That would probably be one hell of a fic.
Ranma gives (Kasumi/Akane,/Nodoka/Tofu/Cologne/Setsuna/or whoever else ususally tells him) an 'Are you for real?' look before saying: "What do you think I am? 5 years old. I've known about this stuff for years."
I'd like to see him having reactions like that to every single clichÚ. That would probably be one hell of a fic.