Harry Potter What would make the biggest inpact on the hp world

[kingdark]

Just like the title. What idea would make the biggest impact on the hp world?

*x* hp as a squib thx to the treatment of the duresleys?
*x* hp goes to the french school
*x* hp is a year older and sits in the same class as the weasley twin
*x* hp runs away from the dursleys and is adopted by a powerful family that has dealings in both magical and muggle world....

thoughts?

 

[nuclear death frog]

The first of those is impossible. Harry was a wizard from birth; none of the Dursleys' abuse of him did anything at all to affect that simple fact, nor could it have.

The second of those is pretty well impossible also. Harry's name would have been down for Hogwarts since birth, because he is a British wizard and his parents were a British wizard and witch. Hogwarts has jurisdiction over magicals from Great Britain and Ireland.

The third of those is wrongly phrased. Fred and George are two years ahead of Harry; they would have finished school at the close of Phoenix, had they not left in such a spectacular manner a bit early. But assuming you mean Harry would be in their grade, I have a feeling things would be similar though different. Harry gets along very well with Fred and George in canon; I have a feeling they would be pretty much his closest friends; possibly Lee Jordan as well. Harry might have gotten involved eventually with either Angelina Johnson or Alicia Spinnet, who would be in his year; or perhaps Katie Bell, who would be a year behind. Harry might look at Ron and Ginny as younger siblings; it's hard to tell what he might think of that. Events otherwise are hard to extrapolate, but this would change many things.

The fourth of those would also change many things, but without knowing who the family is, it is impossible to say how. If the family knows about the magical world, then they must have at least one wizard or witch in it, other than the soon-to-arrive Harry.


As a potential reader, I think I would be most interested in the third one.

 

[ttestagr]

Harry could have gone to Beauxbatons NDF. If he had known about it, and he had enough money to pay for it. Of course, he'd likely have to convince the Dursley's, but that would be easier than one would think. The idea of them spiting Dumbledore and every freak in their nation would likely appeal to them, and getting Harry out of the country just might keep him away from them.

 

[nuclear death frog]

Problems with that are that, in rising order

1: likely scandal in British wizarding world
2: Harry doesn't speak/read/write French
3: Harry wanted to know about his parents. He'd learn basically nothing about them in a school in another country.

The Dursleys wouldn't care about spiting British wizards alone; they hate all people or things that are "abnormal". And Harry didn't know about the place; in Book 4 he barely realized that not every magical child on Earth went to Hogwarts. Harry in canon is a very isolated, insular and self-absorbed kid, probably due to his upbringing. The WW is lucky he's not Dark, but that's the nature of the series; he's the hero.

 

[kingdark]

Those points are all correct, but I'm talking about FICTION
otherwise my question wouldn't have a point! there are a few good fictions were the dursleys are nice (mastermind at ffn.net) is one example.

a aunt loves (i think thats the title) is a similar story were petunia does what she was supposed to do she starts to CARE for Harry.

Kenny

 

[nuclear death frog]

Turning the Dursleys into decent people who accept Harry is changing the Dursleys' actions, but it isn't changing them fundamentally. Vernon Dursley is still a Muggle and executive at Grunnings; Petunia is still Harry's aunt since she was Lily's sister; and Dudley is still Harry's cousin as he is the child of Harry's uncle and aunt.

Changing Harry into a squib is changing Harry's basic, inherent nature. Either you are born with the ability to do magic, or you are not. Harry was born with the ability to do magic. That is part of Harry's basic, immutable nature. The most the Dursleys could have done is be so abusive that they utterly destroy any confidence Harry might have had in himself, which would certainly impact his *skill*, but it would not change the fact that Harry can do magic. Hell, just look at Merope Gaunt for proof of this.

 

[kijin666]

What would make the biggest impact on the HP world? A strategic nuclear strike... :evil: :snigger:

 

[DhampyrX2]

A well trained sniper squad, with or without suppressed rifles. Bullets hit before you ever hear them and a good, not great just good, sniper can drop a man a 800 meters without a problem. See how well the Death Eaters deal with muggles suddenly puittping bullets in their brains and hearts from too far away to see. :evil3:

And in that same vein, muggle assasins, name mob-style hitmen. Cold, brazen, brutal and efficient. They would literally be willing to walk up to suspected Death Eaters like Lucius Malfoy at the train station when he's there to drop Draco off for the ride to Hogwarts, walk up behing him, and paint his blonde hair red with a .38 calibur brush. Problem solved.

 

[nuclear death frog]

If you don't have anything to say that's relevant to the actual series, please don't post.

 

[DhampyrX2]

If you don't have anything to say that's relevant to the actual series, please don't post.

Fine then, #4 could have the most impacy if Harry was raised by the Corleones or the Sopranos. Does that sound like a better way to phrase the same point?

 

[zeebee1]

It's been done before. Both Harry using sniper rifles and Harry being raised as the heir to a mob family. The Harry with guns has been done many times. Unfortunately they tend to be writeen by people who think guns will make Harry invincible.

 

[misthero]

Harry having a demonic teacher in his last year of Hogwarts, and being turned into one hot auburn headed girl ._. Although of course the idea is already in progress

So Harry gaining the abilit of using the sword techniques, and having random enemies in the castle (Like an RPG) =/

 

[kingdark]

now THATS funny. imagine a random PokÚmon appearing in second year? I cant remember the name but the snake-like snake that the red haired girl always used!

or merging pokÚmon and hp together, when harry is kidnapped he grabs his pokÚball and yells: go charizard! (always my favorite pokÚmon when i first played it)

It has been years since i last played pokÚmon though, but you have to admit the prospect is funny.

 

[Prince Charon]

If Grunnings has offices in France, Vernon and his family could be transferred there. I could see the MinistÞre Franþais de Magie (French Ministry of Magic, according to Babelfish) trying to recruit the famous Harry Potter to their school, and if they can find someone reasonably intelligent, might be able to convince him to go.

Depending on how you think of Dumbledore, that might result in the Philosopher's Stone not being hidden at Hogwarts, and possibly Quirrel being captured or killed early.

 

[kingdark]

And thats without a manipulating dumbledore in the school. If an author plays it right, they can extend the tournament for a few year(s)? until he is old enough to play in it.
he would still have a role in the tournament, only this time as a real candidate.

 

[misthero]

LOL @ Pokemon HP Cross... a Private Nurse Joy quarters?
I was thinking Digimon... but that wouldnt fit...

as for Harry having a Demonic Teacher... here http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3262792/1/
It's actually a HP-OMG-NGE crossover ._. have fun reading. Oh plus, where Harry becomes a girl? it's all there *grins*

No it's not my work ._. my work is somewhere else. And yes i have a HP Fic...
What is the theme? well Oh My Goddess in HP. Want a wish to kill Voldermort? you got it ._.

 

[gawl]

Turning the Dursleys into decent people who accept Harry is changing the Dursleys' actions, but it isn't changing them fundamentally. Vernon Dursley is still a Muggle and executive at Grunnings; Petunia is still Harry's aunt since she was Lily's sister; and Dudley is still Harry's cousin as he is the child of Harry's uncle and aunt.

Changing Harry into a squib is changing Harry's basic, inherent nature. Either you are born with the ability to do magic, or you are not. Harry was born with the ability to do magic. That is part of Harry's basic, immutable nature. The most the Dursleys could have done is be so abusive that they utterly destroy any confidence Harry might have had in himself, which would certainly impact his *skill*, but it would not change the fact that Harry can do magic. Hell, just look at Merope Gaunt for proof of this.

It could happen, the Dursleys might abuse and punish Harry any time something "unnatural" happened to the point that he subconciously connects using magic with feeling pain and fear. That in turn could cause Harry to hate and repress his own magic so much he might as well be a squib.

or the killing curse could have weakened Harry's magic in his developing years enough that the Durleys abuse really did "beat it out of him."

 

[kingdark]

come to think of it, I already read a story about that harry 'wished" that whatever weird thing happened to him would just vanish.
His wish was granted, and so he went not to hogwarts. The magical world thought he was dead and none thought of checking his home.

He wen trough college, and left the dursleys at the earliest change
he found a job where dursley works, and when Durlsey is fired, harry comes in a car crash. (it had something to do with Atlantis)

I will take a look to see if i can find said fiction.

 

[nuclear death frog]

Turning the Dursleys into decent people who accept Harry is changing the Dursleys' actions, but it isn't changing them fundamentally. Vernon Dursley is still a Muggle and executive at Grunnings; Petunia is still Harry's aunt since she was Lily's sister; and Dudley is still Harry's cousin as he is the child of Harry's uncle and aunt.

Changing Harry into a squib is changing Harry's basic, inherent nature. Either you are born with the ability to do magic, or you are not. Harry was born with the ability to do magic. That is part of Harry's basic, immutable nature. The most the Dursleys could have done is be so abusive that they utterly destroy any confidence Harry might have had in himself, which would certainly impact his *skill*, but it would not change the fact that Harry can do magic. Hell, just look at Merope Gaunt for proof of this.

It could happen, the Dursleys might abuse and punish Harry any time something "unnatural" happened to the point that he subconciously connects using magic with feeling pain and fear. That in turn could cause Harry to hate and repress his own magic so much he might as well be a squib.

or the killing curse could have weakened Harry's magic in his developing years enough that the Durleys abuse really did "beat it out of him."

Did you even properly read what you quoted? You don't seem to have, because your comprehension of it is about zero.

And your other suggestion is just impossible.

 

[fitzgerald]

Problems with that are that, in rising order

1: likely scandal in British wizarding world
2: Harry doesn't speak/read/write French
3: Harry wanted to know about his parents. He'd learn basically nothing about them in a school in another country.

The Dursleys wouldn't care about spiting British wizards alone; they hate all people or things that are "abnormal". And Harry didn't know about the place; in Book 4 he barely realized that not every magical child on Earth went to Hogwarts. Harry in canon is a very isolated, insular and self-absorbed kid, probably due to his upbringing. The WW is lucky he's not Dark, but that's the nature of the series; he's the hero.

Actually the idea does play out as possible within the framework Rowling set up. Petunia has contact/basic info on the wizarding world she grew up with a magical sibling which would include trips to Diagon Alley.

How hard is it to picture a Petunia Dursley who learnt about her estranged sisters death through a letter attached to her nephew from the Headmaster of Hogwarts to decide she's going to spite Albus but good.

She contacts the other schools and no doubt they'd come knocking at her door on the chance to recruit Harry.

I'm always up for a good Manipulative!Petunia fic.

Ciao

 

[nuclear death frog]

Petunia was estranged from Lily because she hated Lily, or was at least insanely jealous of her. Contacting other schools would be very out of character for her; she wanted to squash Harry's ability out of him, not let it flourish elsewhere. Of course they couldn't really do even that, but they tried.

Sending Harry to another country and another magical school would be a complete reversal of all of the Dursleys' actions for years. For years, they tried to completely destroy any belief Harry might have had in anything odd, anything at all; whether it was a TV show or even a dream.

Why would they suddenly reverse course?

 

[zeebee1]

Desperate times call for desperate actions. It could be rationalised that this way that could at least cause some one with magic to suffer. Of course, it would be very difficult to pull off. There is also the issue that the Dursleys would therefore have to pay for Harry's education unless they thought of asking for a full scholar ship. Something that would be given. But if they didn't think of that option fast enough they would just give up.

 

[nuclear death frog]

I give up. The field of anti-logic in this thread is too powerful to be worth fighting.

Now, for all of those people who wanted a "Harry goes to Beauxbatons" fic, you are heretofore obligated to write one, and it had better be good.

 

[Ringmaster]

3: Harry wanted to know about his parents. He'd learn basically nothing about them in a school in another country.

t:
And how much, pray tell, did he learn about them at Hogwarts?

Harry! Your parents went to school here. Mother was great at charms, dad at transfiguration!

... yeah, could have learned that from anyone who knew them. Ever.

Your dad was an animagus!

...again, from Sirius or Moony, who would seek him out eventually.

Er... Here's some pictures!

... from people from all over the place, not from you teachers at the school. Try harder.

Um... Your mom was great at potions?

It took you six years to tell me that?

Your father had a swollen ego, and pranked other people!

... See answer one.

Uh, um, ummmm... Your father had an invisibility cloak, and played Quidditch!

... Give it here, Dumbledore, it's called 'stealing' if you don't give it back to the owner. Now, see answer one, again.

Your godfather almost killed Snape! But your dad saved his life!

... can we refer to answer one, again?

 

[kingdark]

I suggested those things to make things differently in the HP world. My point was more to see how an author would let things be.
If harry would go to the french school, then he wont have to fight a basilisk, or a dragon, OR to hunt down sirius, then again with harry in france sirius will be doomed to get his soul sucked out.