Who are the biggest jobbers in anime?
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Chaotsu can be considered, because he was in a few fights before he disappeared. He was introduced right before Picollo, with his first major fight being against Kuririn. Which he lost because Kuririn managed to do the kamahameha on his first attempt. His next fight wasn't even showed, he got mauled by Taopaipai to further Tenshinhan's plotline. Then he suicided against Nappa for no effect, which caused Tenshinan to do the exact same thing.
The Tigers team from Zoids: New Century Zero.
Those guys give Saber Tigers a bad name... :rant: (And their one of my favourite zoids too!)
Another I suppose would be Chad from Bleach? The only wins he has are against lackeys...and he doesn't leave any serious dents on sub-bosses either.
Even Ishida has a better track record, at least he has a captain victory under his belt. Not to mention he gets the "This guy is troublesome" centric line even when he loses. (Chad doesn't even have that)
Those guys give Saber Tigers a bad name... :rant: (And their one of my favourite zoids too!)
Another I suppose would be Chad from Bleach? The only wins he has are against lackeys...and he doesn't leave any serious dents on sub-bosses either.
Even Ishida has a better track record, at least he has a captain victory under his belt. Not to mention he gets the "This guy is troublesome" centric line even when he loses. (Chad doesn't even have that)
But who does he make look better? No one. Nope not a jobber.
If anyone is a jobber in Evangelion, it is Asuka. Made out to be a great pilot, trained to perfection. And Shinji comes in, practically has to be begged into it and he kicks more angel ass while Asuka fails or needs his help.
There's that one guy from Tenjo Tenge, then one whose brother is like the main villian for it (been awhile since I've read the series.) He starts off being able to contend with the main character, but quickly falls into the jobber role in not only fights, but with the women too by losing them.
If anyone is a jobber in Evangelion, it is Asuka. Made out to be a great pilot, trained to perfection. And Shinji comes in, practically has to be begged into it and he kicks more angel ass while Asuka fails or needs his help.
There's that one guy from Tenjo Tenge, then one whose brother is like the main villian for it (been awhile since I've read the series.) He starts off being able to contend with the main character, but quickly falls into the jobber role in not only fights, but with the women too by losing them.
Can't argue with Asuka being a jobber. Her and Rei seem made to make Unit 01 seem more awesome, though Asuka did get her shot in EoE against the mass-produced flying bastards. Wasn't her fault no one knew they could regenerate.
The guy from Tenjou Tenge you mentioned is Masataka Takayanagi. If my information is accurate, he's only a jobber in the anime. Not so much in the manga. Kinda becomes oblivious to his growing fanclub, and proceeds to curbstomp whole groups single handedly.
Jeremiah "Orange-kun" Gottwald of Code Geass was a serious jobber in season one. His whole purpose was to make Lelouch, Kallen, and C.C. look better and show off new toys. Doesn't detract from how hilariously awesome he turned out at all.
The guy from Tenjou Tenge you mentioned is Masataka Takayanagi. If my information is accurate, he's only a jobber in the anime. Not so much in the manga. Kinda becomes oblivious to his growing fanclub, and proceeds to curbstomp whole groups single handedly.
Jeremiah "Orange-kun" Gottwald of Code Geass was a serious jobber in season one. His whole purpose was to make Lelouch, Kallen, and C.C. look better and show off new toys. Doesn't detract from how hilariously awesome he turned out at all.
I do not really consider that defeat an indication of how much better Shinji is. After all, he had a S2 engine, and the lance, and their goal was never to kill him.
The comparison of the sides in that battle is IMHO best described by the following quote:
And from that same story... Shinji's assessment. Yes... it is fannon, not canon, but I in fact agree with it.
Both the above quotes were from chapter 13 of:
NGE 'Once More with Feeling' by Crazy-88 - [Status=Not Complete] - [Last Dld=11/02/2008] - [Size=1359kb]
The comparison of the sides in that battle is IMHO best described by the following quote:
And from that same story... Shinji's assessment. Yes... it is fannon, not canon, but I in fact agree with it.
Both the above quotes were from chapter 13 of:
NGE 'Once More with Feeling' by Crazy-88 - [Status=Not Complete] - [Last Dld=11/02/2008] - [Size=1359kb]
BEHOLD MY NECROMANTIC POWERS!
If we're talking about Jobbers... Hmmm....
Tatewaki Kuno is definitely one. The few times he gets a victory, he has plot armor, the element of surprise, his enemy is severely weakened, he's up against cannon-fodder goons, or he's teamed up with one of the other guys.
About the most impressive I've ever seen him was after the Watermelon Training, and in the anime, the few times he fights with Kodachi.
Not to mention, fannon has made him the ultimate jobber in that nearly every new character (at least those with any martial talent, which is just about all of them) winds up kicking his ass.
Essentially, he's like the "character test". If the character can't kick his ass, they're not worth following.
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I'd have to say Kazuharu Fukuyama from Girl's Bravo is definitely a Jobber. He's even been knocked out when the main character put his hand on Kazuharu's face (then again, considering Kazuharu has an allergy to guys, just about any guy could probably knock him out in such a fashion).
Plus, the guy's a creepy molester, FAR worse than even Ataru Moroboshi. He certainly deserves the ass-kickings he gets and more.
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The Efreet from Bastard! This guy was defeated by a FIRE SPELL. Efreets are MADE OF FIRE. Not only that, but the best he managed was to defeat the spirit beast in Arshes Nei's weapon in the anime.
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Adon, from Beserk. Seriously, I don't know HOW this fucker stayed a general when he lost... what, FIVE fucking fights, at least TWO forward positions (including a strategically important keep), and not only wasted a hundred of men in attempts to simply capture/kill Guts and Casca, but failed to ever do more than knock Casca off a cliff and shoot Casca with a crossbow.
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Fungus, from Final Fantasy Unlimited. Not ONCE does this guy win, even after surviving being blown up. Then again, I have to say, his final death... don't know why, but damn that was surprisingly chilling. I actually felt sorry for the poor guy.
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Naraku, Inu Yasha. I'm sorry, but this guy is a jobber. He has to flee constantly, his demonic BEES are more dangerous than him, and even when he DOES kill someone, it's indirect, thus not his victory.
Shit, I don't even count his supposed "victory" over Sango's clan to be one.
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Mizuki from Naruto. Never managed to kill anyone important. Ever. In the manga or the anime. He's injured Iruka, UNNECESSARILY killed an ally, and beat up a few NPCs. That about it. Shit, even when he was buff as hell and had Fujin and Raijin helping him, he never managed anything impressive.
If we're talking about Jobbers... Hmmm....
Tatewaki Kuno is definitely one. The few times he gets a victory, he has plot armor, the element of surprise, his enemy is severely weakened, he's up against cannon-fodder goons, or he's teamed up with one of the other guys.
About the most impressive I've ever seen him was after the Watermelon Training, and in the anime, the few times he fights with Kodachi.
Not to mention, fannon has made him the ultimate jobber in that nearly every new character (at least those with any martial talent, which is just about all of them) winds up kicking his ass.
Essentially, he's like the "character test". If the character can't kick his ass, they're not worth following.
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I'd have to say Kazuharu Fukuyama from Girl's Bravo is definitely a Jobber. He's even been knocked out when the main character put his hand on Kazuharu's face (then again, considering Kazuharu has an allergy to guys, just about any guy could probably knock him out in such a fashion).
Plus, the guy's a creepy molester, FAR worse than even Ataru Moroboshi. He certainly deserves the ass-kickings he gets and more.
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The Efreet from Bastard! This guy was defeated by a FIRE SPELL. Efreets are MADE OF FIRE. Not only that, but the best he managed was to defeat the spirit beast in Arshes Nei's weapon in the anime.
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Adon, from Beserk. Seriously, I don't know HOW this fucker stayed a general when he lost... what, FIVE fucking fights, at least TWO forward positions (including a strategically important keep), and not only wasted a hundred of men in attempts to simply capture/kill Guts and Casca, but failed to ever do more than knock Casca off a cliff and shoot Casca with a crossbow.
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Fungus, from Final Fantasy Unlimited. Not ONCE does this guy win, even after surviving being blown up. Then again, I have to say, his final death... don't know why, but damn that was surprisingly chilling. I actually felt sorry for the poor guy.
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Naraku, Inu Yasha. I'm sorry, but this guy is a jobber. He has to flee constantly, his demonic BEES are more dangerous than him, and even when he DOES kill someone, it's indirect, thus not his victory.
Shit, I don't even count his supposed "victory" over Sango's clan to be one.
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Mizuki from Naruto. Never managed to kill anyone important. Ever. In the manga or the anime. He's injured Iruka, UNNECESSARILY killed an ally, and beat up a few NPCs. That about it. Shit, even when he was buff as hell and had Fujin and Raijin helping him, he never managed anything impressive.
