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And to that, I respond thusly:

<a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssfrVOaBA8A' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Lord Raa....</a>
 

shiki

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Lord Raa said:
I'll just troll you with this:

Tsuruko Aoyama said:
ôLet me put it this way: WeÆre all adults here; weÆve got adult drinks and weÆre playing an adult game. WhoÆs to say that maybe weÆre not playing to our full ability in order to progress things from an adult game to an adult pastime? ö
So, they are going to play a little baseball. :mmm:
 

T.L

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Lord Raa said:
I'll just troll you with this:

Tsuruko Aoyama said:
ôLet me put it this way: WeÆre all adults here; weÆve got adult drinks and weÆre playing an adult game. WhoÆs to say that maybe weÆre not playing to our full ability in order to progress things from an adult game to an adult pastime? ö
Pocket billiards :snigger:
 

EagleCeres

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Pool Hustler Haruka...
<Quagmire> I like where this is going!

I wonder, is the elder Urashima going to play for the lulz or is she planning on either playing wingman and hooking up her unlucky cousin. ;)

Or just plain protect him from the couple of aggressive ladies (never know what the cousin has in mind ;) ) and c-blocking them :snigger:

Keep up the good work Raa!

Without Remorse said:
Pocket Billiards
I dunno... I get the feeling Haruka thinks her poor mistreated cousin has been playing solo for too long :evil3:

shiki said:
Kei needs to make a conscious effort to get on base, although the ladies seem to be trying not be obvious about their slow pitching and hoping he comes out swinging for the fences ^_^
 

ThreadWeaver

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EagleCeres said:
I wonder, is the elder Urashima going to play for the lulz or is she planning on either playing wingman and hooking up her unlucky cousin. ;)
Well, if setting up Keitaro with multiple women runs in the family, I'd say that Haruka would have both women butt-naked and just drunk enough to tag team the poor guy... She can walk down the her teashop to the cries of delight from the ladies in the background. Or join in I guess, depending on one's tastes.

Although personally, her being an obsessive smoker is more of a turnoff than being a cousin in my books.

ôI found it earlier and thought we itÆd be fun,ö
I believe your 'we' is superfluous.

He was about to curse his luck when the movement of the other balls on the table had knocked in one.
I don't know if this is the difference between English and American, but we'd say "knock one in" here...

I'm quite interested to see the "fate" that "befalls" these ladies... heh.
 

T.L

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I believe Keitaro is going to sink the pink tonight. :evil2:
 

Prince Charon

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Without Remorse said:
I believe Keitaro is going to sink the pink tonight. :evil2:
If he doesn't, two girls are going to be rather disappointed, instead if just one (or none, if he sinks the pink twice).
 

PCHeintz72

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Hmmm... Raa is apparently using the Visual Novel continuity... so she really is his cousin in this one.
 

Ura Mamoru

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PCHeintz72 said:
Hmmm... Raa is apparently using the Visual Novel continuity... so she really is his cousin in this one.
Wasn't that from a light novel, not a visual novel?

And I think Akamatsu confirmed that it applies to the manga as well in a databook released after the end of the series. I remember us having a thread here discussing the contents of said databook, and some of the things it clarified within (including that above-mentioned cousin/aunt thing, what's up with Kanako's cat talking, and why Motoko is scared of turtles).
 

Antimatter

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Ura Mamoru said:
PCHeintz72 said:
Hmmm...? Raa is apparently using the Visual Novel continuity...? so she really is his cousin in this one.
Wasn't that from a light novel, not a visual novel?

And I think Akamatsu confirmed that it applies to the manga as well in a databook released after the end of the series. I remember us having a thread here discussing the contents of said databook, and some of the things it clarified within (including that above-mentioned cousin/aunt thing, what's up with Kanako's cat talking, and why Motoko is scared of turtles).
It directly says it's canon in the afterword of the first novel, by Akamatsu himself.

IIRC, there was an argument on this board over wither word of god like that can truly be considered canon. I believe it resulted in some reducto ad absurdum arguments saying stuff like 'if he declared Mutsumi to be a space alien, would that be canon?' and such.

Basically, some believed only the contents of the original manga is canon, everything else is not, in terms of manga canon. So the novels, even if they say they should be taken as manga canon, are not canon, even if the author wishes them to be.
 
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Antimatter said:
Ura Mamoru said:
PCHeintz72 said:
Hmmm...á Raa is apparently using the Visual Novel continuity...á so she really is his cousin in this one.
Wasn't that from a light novel, not a visual novel?

And I think Akamatsu confirmed that it applies to the manga as well in a databook released after the end of the series. I remember us having a thread here discussing the contents of said databook, and some of the things it clarified within (including that above-mentioned cousin/aunt thing, what's up with Kanako's cat talking, and why Motoko is scared of turtles).
It directly says it's canon in the afterword of the first novel, by Akamatsu himself.

IIRC, there was an argument on this board over wither word of god like that can truly be considered canon. I believe it resulted in some reducto ad absurdum arguments saying stuff like 'if he declared Mutsumi to be a space alien, would that be canon?' and such.

Basically, some believed only the contents of the original manga is canon, everything else is not, in terms of manga canon. So the novels, even if they say they should be taken as manga canon, are not canon, even if the author wishes them to be.
Okay, here is a question about that. If the author's word isn't canon, what the hell is? He made it, he wrote it, and got paid for it. I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be, no matter what wonky crap he did or does.
 

shiki

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Some people treat canon differently. Some people go with the idea that anything the author says, even if it contradicts what has been written, is canon. Some believe that the series + anything the author says that doesn't contradict the series is canon. Some go further than that and only consider the source material, as written, as canon regardless of what anyone involved in the series says or writes afterwards.

I of the opinion that anything that is in the official series (including appendices and databooks) but not interviews or any adaptations is canon to me.


For example:

Take J.K. Rowlings post series interview when she reveals Dumbledore is gay.

For people in the first group: Dumbledore is gay because Rowling said so.

For people in the second group: Dumbledore is gay because Rowling said so and the original books never said so one way or another about it.

For people in the last group: Dumbledore is NOT gay. Not in the books. Not canon.

For me: Dumbledore could be gay but as it is not in the books, it isn't a concrete part of his charcter. It makes the decisions that he made and the backstory more disturbing. It also makes me question his motivations. But in the end, I could read a gay/straight/bi Dumbledore with no issues.

In the case of the Love Hina issue: I have no issues with Haruka's relation with Keitaro. In my mind, she is his aunt who may be genetically his cousin. In the end, she is still legally and treated as Keitaro's aunt.
 

PCHeintz72

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Shiki pretty much nailed it... like him, I'm in group 3 except even further to state that if it is not in the manga pages, or on the anime DVDs of a continuity, it is not canon to that continuity... even if it is to other continuities. No matter what the author says afterward... no matter what the author writes afterward, no matter what comes out in interviews afterward.

It is a case of groups 1 and 2 taking what is called 'author intent' or 'creator intent' and considering it canon.

The issues with this are many... but basically... what if Takahashi stated Kuno was so nuts was because he was a plant based life form from beyond and only pretending to be human... would that make it so... not to me... but apparently so to others.

In this case... there are tons of references in manga/anime to Haruka being his aunt, mostly him calling her that... and not once in manga/anime does she deny it, and none where she states to call her his cousin. On the other hand... it apparently is so in the novels... so this is merely something different between continuities, like Shinobu already being a resident at manga start, and not at anime start.

Do I have an issue with her being his cousin were it so... Not a bit... but it is not canon to me as it does not conform to provable canon material.
 

PCHeintz72

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Hmmm.... should not have Kitsune gone before Keitaro? Or did I miss something.

There is also the interesting interupted line Kietaro starts to say to Tsuruko...
 
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Thank you shiki, that clears everything up nicely. I do admit, now that I think about it, I am closer to the same beliefs as you for canon wise.

To Raa: Enjoying the story so far. Please keep up the good work.
 

Lord Raa

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<a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8v6Gc7roJ6g' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>NSFW Inspiration for the next bit in this fic. </a>
 

PCHeintz72

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Considering the brother in law is by definition married probably to his sister... he is not a very considerate brother, even if he is a considerate brother in law....
 

ThreadWeaver

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Heh. Nice. Both those ladies-- Tsuruko and the woman in the clip-- were having far too much fun torturing the guys.

I enjoyed it immensely.
 

kevinasher

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ThreadWeaver said:
Heh. Nice. Both those ladies-- Tsuruko and the woman in the clip-- were having far too much fun torturing the guys.

I enjoyed it immensely.
I doubt that either of the two men in the clip were feeling tortured. Keitaro, on the other hand...
 

Prince Charon

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PCHeintz72 said:
Considering the brother in law is by definition married probably to his sister... he is not a very considerate brother, even if he is a considerate brother in law....
The caption says son-in-law, not brother-in-law. So, he's being very considerate to his daughter's husband. I wonder what she'll have to say to him (I mean, if she's bi, and the son-in-law brings the girl in the red dress home, she might not mind, but otherwise, I doubt she'd be happy).
 

Prince Charon

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On the one hand, I like seeing more of your work, but on the other, I hope you feel better. Argh.
 

ThreadWeaver

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Prince Charon said:
On the one hand, I like seeing more of your work, but on the other, I hope you feel better.? Argh.
He's actually feeling better if I read that correctly, hence why he's writing more.

I'm looking forward to seeing the rest of this scene. The thought of what the other girls might walk in on amuses me greatly.

Something to the effect of Naru walking down the hall and hearing her friend, Tsuruko AND Haruka encouraging him to "put that long hard shaft of wood to good use, we know we will," only to storm in and see the ladies straddling their cues in an effort to tease Keitaro. The explosion would be glorious and make Tambora seem like a fly-fart in comparison.
 

EagleCeres

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Poor Tsuruko... having to deal with the injustice (haha! juice tins!)

Wonder what's up next for Kitsune... and just when Kei's luck going to rear it's ugly head?

More whenever you can Raa!
 

Prince Charon

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Nice. Haruka is a very considerate aunt/cousin/whatever (is she his mother in this fic, or is she too young for that to be not-horribly-squicky?). Wonder what Kitsune will do in response.
 
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