Bleach Blessings In Disguise - Bleach/AMG AU Fic

azereath

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#26
might as well keep it here in the bleach section, everyone knows its here and with look in this section for new chapters anyway. it would also be pretty anoying having to look in two diiferent sections to get the full story as well especially for new readers
 

Waruiko

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#27
-What color would his spirit thread thing be? He's obviously not a normal human human, and if we take red to be the color of divine power, Ishida might show up early.



This is something that I actually forgot about. I'm open to what ideas others may have on it, but it won't show up for quite awhile.
I honestly don't think this aspect of the story would change at all. We know Ishida wasn't new to Ichigo's school, and once he started temping for Rukia. Because Ishida only confronted Ichigo after some time in active service we can safely assume his heritage didn't show through at that point. Basically him being a mortal now would overwhelm the shinigami he has the potential to be, and as a shinigami he state would likely show-up in place of the AMG style god he might be made into. As a god he would be wired directly into the system and might not have a spirit thread at all for that reason. If nothing else it gets hard to be 'out of sight out of mind' when every Quincy within a five mile radius can find you, in which case the god or goddess in question would have even more reason to hide their thread assuming the system isn't hiding their thread for them. That would leave people with some interesting questions about Bell and Urd though...

EDIT: Short chapters are fine BTW to long they flow well and the wait to length ratio isn't too bad.
 

CatOnFire

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#28
I've noticed thus far in the story in the new timeline Ichigo's ability to see the dead hasn't been mentioned, has he lost this ability do to his mother's influence? Or is it something more subtle like the place they live is a temple or ghosts naturally feel the minute divinity radiating off him thus they find themselves skittish in his presence?

Given that Ichigo is more social in the new timeline having spent long times around several different people like Tatsuki, Orihime, Yuuya and Hideo does this mean he has been effecting thier spiritual developement with his high amounts of spiritual pressure like he did to Orihime and Chad in the original timeline? Or has the mana running through his body reinforced himself from 'leakage'? If not would this mean more friends joining him in his hollow busting duties?

Would the fact that the nature of the power that Ichigo gives off has changed might in turn change the powers his friends receive in subtle (or major) ways?

I've been thinking on the differences between the power weilded by AMG Gods/Demons and Bleach Shinigami/Hollows and trying to figure how Ichigo has benifitted from this. Heres what I have so far:

For one thing it is obvious that the power that the two groups use are completely different forms of energy. Shingami/Hollows power are naturally occuring human soul energy emissions that are probably polarized positively or negatively. While AMG deity/demon Mana/pishogue is another form of power that exsits in it's natural state seperate from Midgard altogether, this is shown by their need to refuel using things like icecream, booze and sleep.

The nature of both also differs in the way they effect the enviroment. The mana gods use effect reality directly causing damage based upon the intent of the user, while it may seem that they are casting spells through song and rehersed incantations it is more do to focused intent that gives spells thier power. That's not to say words don't have power it's more the weight of the words that determine the power of the spells (this gives old spells more power than new spells just created at the spur of the moment do to how many people have been using them over the years with the same intent), connection to the Yggsdrasil also gives a deities spell an extra kick and is required for anything that causes direct reality manipulation. Mana doesn't occur naturally in Midgard as I've mentioned before, it is regained only by two methods: either the diety in question waits a while for thier bodies to regenerate it slowly (often taking months to years as opposed to the other way) or through an action that given to them by the Yggsdrasil allows for a quicker refuel (booze, icecream, ect.).

In reguards to a shinigami's power it seems to be limited to the manipulation of 'spirit particles' which is a form of invisible matter that exsists in Midgard. Spirit Particles (SPs) have mass this is why Hollows and Shingami can interact with the world around them and why Pluses (who have less SP) can be intagible. Shinigamis and other souls in thier lands are beings that exsist as a collection of spirit particles held together by a stable form of renewable energy (reiki) which is SP in energy form, not unlike a human just with SPs intead of Matter. Reiki is used to manipulate SP directly and all ablities by Shinigami and Hollows are dirived from the interaction of those two energies, as Reiki can be converted into SP and visa versa (on that thought I could consider the transition of a Plus to a Hollow the point at which a Soul draws in local spirit particles after it consumes it's chain, and continues to do so, often consuming other pluses and hollows, until it reaches a mass the has it pulled into the 'hollow world'). Hollows consume SP in whatever form and naturally convert it into Reiki (any Reiki consumed is a bonus) Shinigami (and possibly Annacars) are Pluses that have converted thier Reiki into a more concentrated form to be used later kinda like stored fat in the body and that concentrated energy generates more Reiki by converting dispersed SP around them into Reiki (kinda like condensation), while training it (through exercise and direct use) increases the capacity that can be stored.

Well I went off on a few tangents there.
 

GenocideHeart

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#29
I've noticed thus far in the story in the new timeline Ichigo's ability to see the dead hasn't been mentioned, has he lost this ability do to his mother's influence? Or is it something more subtle like the place they live is a temple or ghosts naturally feel the minute divinity radiating off him thus they find themselves skittish in his presence?
It's mentioned in A!MG that the mere presence of a goddess of Belldandy's caliber can instantly make ghosts in the area pass on to Nirvana, or something equivalent. It may be that Ichigo shares that ability, and simply doesn't realize that ghosts are around because when he approaches them, they get sent to Heaven before he can notice.
 

Waruiko

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#30
GenocideHeart said:
I've noticed thus far in the story in the new timeline Ichigo's ability to see the dead hasn't been mentioned, has he lost this ability do to his mother's influence? Or is it something more subtle like the place they live is a temple or ghosts naturally feel the minute divinity radiating off him thus they find themselves skittish in his presence?
It's mentioned in A!MG that the mere presence of a goddess of Belldandy's caliber can instantly make ghosts in the area pass on to Nirvana, or something equivalent. It may be that Ichigo shares that ability, and simply doesn't realize that ghosts are around because when he approaches them, they get sent to Heaven before he can notice.
In the new timeline Ichigo only has the last week or so. Whats more he was still able to see Grand Fisher remember? Tatsuki found him out by the crater Bell left when she blasted it last chapter I think.
 

Garahs

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#31
Is Orihime still an advanced blackbelt in karate or has that been altered from the wish? Either way it wouldn't change much since Orihime hates to fight.

Good story either way. I only just found this.
 

zerohour

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#32
Garahs said:
Is Orihime still an advanced blackbelt in karate or has that been altered from the wish? Either way it wouldn't change much since Orihime hates to fight.

Good story either way. I only just found this.
I'm pretty sure Orihime never had a blackbelt in anything... ever.
 

Ura Mamoru

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#33
zerohour said:
Garahs said:
Is Orihime still an advanced blackbelt in karate or has that been altered from the wish?á Either way it wouldn't change much since Orihime hates to fight.

Good story either way.á I only just found this.
I'm pretty sure Orihime never had a blackbelt in anything... ever.
Not officially, anyways, but Tatsuki trained her to approximately the level of a first-degree black belt, apparently.
 

Solarman

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#34
Ura Mamoru said:
zerohour said:
Garahs said:
Is Orihime still an advanced blackbelt in karate or has that been altered from the wish?á Either way it wouldn't change much since Orihime hates to fight.

Good story either way.á I only just found this.
I'm pretty sure Orihime never had a blackbelt in anything... ever.
Not officially, anyways, but Tatsuki trained her to approximately the level of a first-degree black belt, apparently.
I'm not sure about Karate, but in Tae Kwon Do (the school I learned from, at least) one of the rules was that you did not teach anyone anything new without permission of the instructor. Then again, this is Tatsuki we're talking about.
 

Waruiko

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#35
Solarman said:
Ura Mamoru said:
zerohour said:
Garahs said:
Is Orihime still an advanced blackbelt in karate or has that been altered from the wish?á Either way it wouldn't change much since Orihime hates to fight.

Good story either way.á I only just found this.
I'm pretty sure Orihime never had a blackbelt in anything... ever.
Not officially, anyways, but Tatsuki trained her to approximately the level of a first-degree black belt, apparently.
I'm not sure about Karate, but in Tae Kwon Do (the school I learned from, at least) one of the rules was that you did not teach anyone anything new without permission of the instructor. Then again, this is Tatsuki we're talking about.
I want a citation on Orihime having a black belt in anything. I may not be current on the manga, but that's so far out of left field for her that I'm inches from calling a foul ball here.
 

Ura Mamoru

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#36
Waruiko said:
Solarman said:
Ura Mamoru said:
zerohour said:
Garahs said:
Is Orihime still an advanced blackbelt in karate or has that been altered from the wish?á Either way it wouldn't change much since Orihime hates to fight.

Good story either way.á I only just found this.
I'm pretty sure Orihime never had a blackbelt in anything... ever.
Not officially, anyways, but Tatsuki trained her to approximately the level of a first-degree black belt, apparently.
I'm not sure about Karate, but in Tae Kwon Do (the school I learned from, at least) one of the rules was that you did not teach anyone anything new without permission of the instructor. Then again, this is Tatsuki we're talking about.
I want a citation on Orihime having a black belt in anything. I may not be current on the manga, but that's so far out of left field for her that I'm inches from calling a foul ball here.
I checked the Bleach Wiki to find which chapter it was mentioned in, and found the pages in question (Chapter 119, Soul Society arc). Again, I repeat that Orihime is stated to have the skill of a first-degree black belt, but she has never taken official training.

Anyways...
http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000003/000106852/15.jpg
http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000003/000106852/16.jpg
 

holyknight

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#37
Nikas_Zekeval said:
Why Kurosaki-kun, I get along just fine with your younger aunt!

Yeah, lots of people screaming, crying, and running away.

Of course the two going at it hammer and tongs over using their OWN idea to 'help' Ichigo would be scary too.

Kisuke: "Shattered Shaft. Simple and time tested."

Skuld: "And turns X% into Hollows. We'll use my Respirtualizer Mark IV."

Kisuke: My, my, Mark IV? Did the first three blow themselves up?


Though Skuld showing up might be, interesting. Would she be less a pain given that any 'perversion' is already done? Or is she gonna be on Rukia instead for sneaking into her 'innocent nephew's room' late at night?
Just fell on something. Think that Yoruichi will name Uruhara as a "Lolicon" when she finds both working on something the first time?
 

Ura Mamoru

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#39
GenocideHeart said:
Nah, she'd shunpo as far away as possible. Just to be safe.
Yoruichi's worried that Urahara will get the idea that a cat is fine too?
 

holyknight

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#40
Ura Mamoru said:
GenocideHeart said:
Nah, she'd shunpo as far away as possible. Just to be safe.
Yoruichi's worried that Urahara will get the idea that a cat is fine too?
No. Simple awareness that her GTFO-Meter its overloading, that Skuld AND Uruhara are BOTH having that shine of madness on their eyes, and their faces scream "F#ck Common Sense, i'm gonna do SCIENCE Today!!!"



PS: If Angels and Zanpakuto spirits can talk.......kukuku...methinks that Noble Scarlet its going to be "enlightened" by the Benihime......kukukuku.....
 

Nikas_Zekeval

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#41
holyknight said:
PS: If Angels and Zanpakuto spirits can talk.......kukuku...methinks that Noble Scarlet its going to be "enlightened" by the Benihime......kukukuku.....
That put a scene into my head.

Ichigo looked around his inner world. Over there was Old Man Zangetsu, there was his Hollow side, and finally he could see the latest addition, his Angel. Right then he wondered when his soul became a spiritual boarding house...
 

GenocideHeart

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#42
Actually, I think only Goddesses, as in females, get angels. Keiichi is a special case that breaks nearly every rule there is, but the few male gods we see (Troubadour, Celestin) don't appear to have an Angel at all.

Although I'm not sure if Troubadour is a minor god or a very powerful spirit... But Celestin was a god, all right.
 

Draculthemad

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#43
Troubadour wasn't actually a god, but rather some kind of spirit though, and Celestin was imprisoned.

Perhaps they simply separated his angel from him then? Since an angel can not presumably act against its master, perhaps it was spared because it could not be responsible for any part in his crimes.
 

CatOnFire

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#44
Celestin was imprisoned for a very long time. It could be said angels didn't even exsist before his imprisonment. Basing assumptions of all male deities on Celestin is rediculous. Based on Celestin it is safe to say all male deities have been imprisoned for trying to start arrmegedon.

...i miss the spell check app on my old comp :blue: ...
 

holyknight

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#45
GenocideHeart said:
Actually, I think only Goddesses, as in females, get angels. Keiichi is a special case that breaks nearly every rule there is, but the few male gods we see (Troubadour, Celestin) don't appear to have an Angel at all.

Although I'm not sure if Troubadour is a minor god or a very powerful spirit... But Celestin was a god, all right.
Point. However you must admit that Ichigo its highly likely to flip off common sense, logic and such stuff. Add that it would be hilarious to have Hollow Ichigo cringing to some of Ichigo's inner Angel's expressions, or trying vainly to get badass on her hide....only to fold like a wet paper to the first tear on sight.
 

zerohour

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#46
holyknight said:
GenocideHeart said:
Actually, I think only Goddesses, as in females, get angels. Keiichi is a special case that breaks nearly every rule there is, but the few male gods we see (Troubadour, Celestin) don't appear to have an Angel at all.

Although I'm not sure if Troubadour is a minor god or a very powerful spirit... But Celestin was a god, all right.
Point. However you must admit that Ichigo its highly likely to flip off common sense, logic and such stuff. Add that it would be hilarious to have Hollow Ichigo cringing to some of Ichigo's inner Angel's expressions, or trying vainly to get badass on her hide....only to fold like a wet paper to the first tear on sight.
Or he could knock her up.
 

Aarik

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#47
Or he could beat the hell out of it, Please remember that Ogihci (After playing Ichigo's name backwards on a sound recorder it sounds more like Ogishi (the ishi sounds like the ishi in Kishimoto, and surprisingly I CAN actually pronounce it.) is literally almost nothing more then pure instincts, violent fighting based instinct's, most likely he is 'physically' incapable of feeling regret or sadness or shock or compassion or kindness, tears would just be a sign of weakness that proved that the angel deserved to die and had to get the fuck out of HIS(he would view it as his) soul, no weakness allowed in HIS soul after all.
 

lask

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#48
Aarik said:
Or he could beat the hell out of it, Please remember that Ogihci (After playing Ichigo's name backwards on a sound recorder it sounds more like Ogishi (the ishi sounds like the ishi in Kishimoto, and surprisingly I CAN actually pronounce it.) is literally almost nothing more then pure instincts, violent fighting based instinct's, most likely he is 'physically' incapable of feeling regret or sadness or shock or compassion or kindness, tears would just be a sign of weakness that proved that the angel deserved to die and had to get the fuck out of HIS(he would view it as his) soul, no weakness allowed in HIS soul after all.
This. Lets no make Hichigo less of a monster, please. Cause that would make him less awesome. He isn't a person, he's an incarnation of violence and butality.
 
#49
GenocideHeart said:
Actually, I think only Goddesses, as in females, get angels. Keiichi is a special case that breaks nearly every rule there is, but the few male gods we see (Troubadour, Celestin) don't appear to have an Angel at all.

Although I'm not sure if Troubadour is a minor god or a very powerful spirit... But Celestin was a god, all right.
Troubador was stated as a Peach Tree Spirit I believe.

One problem is that we don't know if Celestin didn't have an angel. It's possible it got removed when he was sealed away, or just couldn't manifest while he was sealed. Heck, we didn't know goddesses had angels for quite a while so he may simply not have used it at the time.
 

nick012000

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#50
The Inner Hollow seems to get along well enough with Zangetsu. They'd all just be incarnations of the same thing, after all: Ichigo's power. It'd just be that they're different aspects of his power.

At most they'd squabble a bit, and eventually the Inner Hollow absorbs the other two as his power increases, like he did to Zangetsu in canon. Not that that'd stop Ichigo from calling on the Angel, but it'd also make it very risky to do so (like how using Bankai resulted in him going hollow until he beat down the Inner Hollow and got the mask).
 
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