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http://www.tthfanfic.org/Story-6310/Greywi...+s+Blessing.htm this _might_ be what you're looking for. only thing I know of that sounds like what you described.
that would be TenHawk's Archon stories
andaandyckas said:
Ahhh, Archon...nice story (IMHO, don't know about other here). Too bad that it's sequel is WIP. 
well there is that buffy/harry potter crossover he's been regularly doing but I don't care much for it.
would rather wish he continues the Journeyverse or at least update the ultimate journeyverse instead of leaving it with only one chapter.
That would be Complex Inversion by Siege & Anime-Ronin. Although it's not really Xander/Jenny. Only sorta.
looking for a fic where Xander owns a you could say a security firm, dawn goes to live with him after a fight with buffy, buffy is in a down hill relationship with spike who is secretly in cahoots with the first. willow went magic crazy again but was stop by xander's men with the help of andrew who works for him.
you are looking for Wild Horses by jeconais.
Your description is a bit off but this is the only fic that fits what you got right
(This takes place after Jeconais's version of the first (what amounts to an ultra vamp) is dealt with)
I should also note that this seems to be dead.
Your description is a bit off but this is the only fic that fits what you got right
(This takes place after Jeconais's version of the first (what amounts to an ultra vamp) is dealt with)
I should also note that this seems to be dead.
Uh . . . it is, isn't it?
Putting aside the belief system stuff, neutralizing Willow's power and telling her so is only a temporary fix - she just waits until they switch off the machine, or tells them she's all better - the underlying problem never gets fixed.
Make it look like the supernatural forces she relies on don't like being jerked around so she can mind-wipe her friends and stuff, may actually encourage her to look at her behaviour and her habits and implies that she has to then toe their line if she wants her mojo back.
At least, that's how I view it. Frankly, I don't agree that Willow subscribes to any particular God/dess, belief system or set of magical rules, so I doubt that she'd give a damn. But if she did, playing hardball like this might help her to get a grip.
Putting aside the belief system stuff, neutralizing Willow's power and telling her so is only a temporary fix - she just waits until they switch off the machine, or tells them she's all better - the underlying problem never gets fixed.
Make it look like the supernatural forces she relies on don't like being jerked around so she can mind-wipe her friends and stuff, may actually encourage her to look at her behaviour and her habits and implies that she has to then toe their line if she wants her mojo back.
At least, that's how I view it. Frankly, I don't agree that Willow subscribes to any particular God/dess, belief system or set of magical rules, so I doubt that she'd give a damn. But if she did, playing hardball like this might help her to get a grip.
A large part of it hinges on her never finding out she was lied to about why her powers don't work, or at least not finding out until she's much, much saner. Otherwise, she'll be quite pissed, and undo some or all of their hard work (IIRC, that Willow did subscribe to a specific, if unnamed, goddess).
Also, I have to much respect for most pagan religions to like someone suggesting that they are subordinate to an outside deity. It read like an opportunistic attempt to gain a convert, and given that we know that the gods are real in the Buffyverse, he just made an enemy of one that he didn't need to, even if she was pissed at Willow, too. He may have believed what he said, but it was extremely annoying at the time, and even though I'm a lot less religious now (more or less agnostic) than I was then, its pissing me off again, now.
EDIT: Putting the first point another way, playing headgames with someone you know has lost it is a very bad idea. I'm more annoyed by that than I am about the religion thing.
Also, I have to much respect for most pagan religions to like someone suggesting that they are subordinate to an outside deity. It read like an opportunistic attempt to gain a convert, and given that we know that the gods are real in the Buffyverse, he just made an enemy of one that he didn't need to, even if she was pissed at Willow, too. He may have believed what he said, but it was extremely annoying at the time, and even though I'm a lot less religious now (more or less agnostic) than I was then, its pissing me off again, now.
EDIT: Putting the first point another way, playing headgames with someone you know has lost it is a very bad idea. I'm more annoyed by that than I am about the religion thing.
Ah, now that's where things get a lot more difficult. If the impromptu intervention goes well, and Willow gets her head on straight, then finding out she was played might undo a lot of that reconstruction. She might even go off the deep end again. So, yeah, a dangerous game to play.
That said, for the OC crowd, she's an enemy - she magically attacked Xander, she put their HQ under siege, and she's quite ready to mind-rape anyone who disagrees with her. They don't know Willow like we do, and their reactions are going to follow on from that different perspective.
Personally, I think that undoing some of the character assassination of late BtVS is worth the risk. I loved the younger versions of the characters, but the last two seasons did a lot to damage my affection for them. It's only now that I'm rewatching some of the early stuff, I begin to see how badly I got burned.
That said, for the OC crowd, she's an enemy - she magically attacked Xander, she put their HQ under siege, and she's quite ready to mind-rape anyone who disagrees with her. They don't know Willow like we do, and their reactions are going to follow on from that different perspective.
Personally, I think that undoing some of the character assassination of late BtVS is worth the risk. I loved the younger versions of the characters, but the last two seasons did a lot to damage my affection for them. It's only now that I'm rewatching some of the early stuff, I begin to see how badly I got burned.
There are two things.
1. They only have to keep her believing their story until her powers are sealed after which they will still have to deal with the emotional side of things but not have to deal with the wicked witch of the west coast.
2. I think that as this point (given that her oldest friend has basically written her off ) she has hit rock bottom so this deception aside this is her turning point.
that beings said why is it more often then not in xander centric fanfics (particuraly YAHF) that Buffy is characterized as a huge asshole
1. They only have to keep her believing their story until her powers are sealed after which they will still have to deal with the emotional side of things but not have to deal with the wicked witch of the west coast.
2. I think that as this point (given that her oldest friend has basically written her off ) she has hit rock bottom so this deception aside this is her turning point.
that beings said why is it more often then not in xander centric fanfics (particuraly YAHF) that Buffy is characterized as a huge asshole
It's usually for a few different reasons, some of them sort of acceptable like the attitude Buffy has in later season where it's all about the power (even if that power in fact doesn't exist) esp the scene where Xander could be dying in season seven and she goes to spike when he has almost nothing, or even the way she reacted when he got his eye gouged out.
Sadly, it's usually just a macho reaction of "buffy tried to protect Xander when it should have been Xander protecting Buffy" or some such.
She wounds the male ego, in a way.
same, a lot of Xander-centered fics have either Asshole!Willow or cheerleading!Willow.
*shrugs*
an awesome fic talking about xander cliche:
http://m-mcgregor.livejournal.com/114528.html
EDIT: I forgot. Also, Xander had a crush on Buffy for the longest time, but she either ignord him or played with him. He was beneath her notice most of the time when it came to romance. This does not sit well with Xaner fans (no matter that he did the same to Willow).
Sadly, it's usually just a macho reaction of "buffy tried to protect Xander when it should have been Xander protecting Buffy" or some such.
She wounds the male ego, in a way.
same, a lot of Xander-centered fics have either Asshole!Willow or cheerleading!Willow.
*shrugs*
an awesome fic talking about xander cliche:
http://m-mcgregor.livejournal.com/114528.html
EDIT: I forgot. Also, Xander had a crush on Buffy for the longest time, but she either ignord him or played with him. He was beneath her notice most of the time when it came to romance. This does not sit well with Xaner fans (no matter that he did the same to Willow).
A lot of Xander-centric stuff has people placing an exaggerated version of Buffy's personality in the in the last seasons of the show into her younger self. The way Buffy's personality worked in the earlier seasons was much different from how it became in the later ones.
There are also allusions to Buffy/Xander romantic feelings/mutual attraction in the second season, after Angelus gets loose, they almost kiss. *shrugs* And Willow/Xander have the sexual tension thing going as well. Hints of things, and promises that they kept falling through on.
Then we get to season 3, and Xander is turned into the buttmonkey of the series. He goes from the kid with the balls to face down Angelus, to other than his last hurrah as it were in The Zeppo, to the weak, normal guy while everyone else leaves him behind. And he falls to a background character with Anya taking more limelight than he does.
Mah. *shrugs* It was a disturbing lack of evolution in his character I thought, why I lost interest in the show. After the second season, all the characters just fell into a steady decline for me, becoming weaker characters instead of stronger.
Well, other than Faith. Faith seemed to be the exception in Buffy.
In the other series, Angel, Cordelia and Wesley all became stronger characters.
At least in my opinion.
That's mainly why any of my fics for Buffy always start in the second season or earlier. It was when I still liked and respected the characters.
There are also allusions to Buffy/Xander romantic feelings/mutual attraction in the second season, after Angelus gets loose, they almost kiss. *shrugs* And Willow/Xander have the sexual tension thing going as well. Hints of things, and promises that they kept falling through on.
Then we get to season 3, and Xander is turned into the buttmonkey of the series. He goes from the kid with the balls to face down Angelus, to other than his last hurrah as it were in The Zeppo, to the weak, normal guy while everyone else leaves him behind. And he falls to a background character with Anya taking more limelight than he does.
Mah. *shrugs* It was a disturbing lack of evolution in his character I thought, why I lost interest in the show. After the second season, all the characters just fell into a steady decline for me, becoming weaker characters instead of stronger.
Well, other than Faith. Faith seemed to be the exception in Buffy.
In the other series, Angel, Cordelia and Wesley all became stronger characters.
At least in my opinion.
That's mainly why any of my fics for Buffy always start in the second season or earlier. It was when I still liked and respected the characters.
As someone who's been on both ends of the Xander, Willow and Buffy character spectrum, I've got to agree with a lot of what Chilord and Tom said. Too often, Xander-centric fics focused on <s>or exaggerated</s> Xander's good points, and everybody else's bad points, or put later character flaws and developments at the doors of younger characters.
Seeing the first couple of seasons again, I still like Xander, Cordy still cracks me up, but I find Buffy a lot more compassionate and vulnerable than I remember, and Willow both adorable and hilarious. These are good characters, who were used badly by both the show's staff and by the fans. But they remain awesome, despite that.
Seeing the first couple of seasons again, I still like Xander, Cordy still cracks me up, but I find Buffy a lot more compassionate and vulnerable than I remember, and Willow both adorable and hilarious. These are good characters, who were used badly by both the show's staff and by the fans. But they remain awesome, despite that.