Nasuverse Carnival Phantasm

shiki

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#51
Episode 6. Screw you Shinji, you damn *Bleep*

Episode 7. Lulz all the way.
 

MTing

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#52
Epsilon said:
Lord of Bones said:
Lancer is the Buttmonkey of the Nasuverse, it would seem.
I'm still waiting for someone to go "Oh my God, they killed Lancer!"

Followed by a lecture from Kotomine about how one should not use God's name for silly statements.
Lancer is kinda like Leomon. He always gets killed
 

MinusMagnus

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#53
New episode is out.

In wich we see FOUR Seibah, Lancer dies and Gilgamesh is a troll.
 

Epsilon

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#54
Fate Extra Saber cameo was cool. Wish Fate Extra Caster got in as well though.

Can't wait for Season 3!
 

nick012000

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#55
LOL Saber Lion. Also Saber as a waitress was hilarious. Talk about upselling. :p

EDIT: LOL Gilgamesh likes femdom!Saber.
 

Serval

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#56
Carnival Phantasm û IlyaÆs Castle Special has been translated.

<a href='http://utw.me/2011/12/03/carnival-phantasm-ilyas-castle-special/' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://utw.me/2011/12/03/carnival-phantasm...castle-special/</a>
 

Serval

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#57
Carnival Phantasm û EX Season is out.

<a href='http://utw.me/2011/12/15/carnival-phantasm-ex-season/' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://utw.me/2011/12/15/carnival-phantasm-ex-season/</a>
 

ksho

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#58
<a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IB4sr_15Pt4' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Season 3 CM.....FLY FOR THE MOON!!!</a>
 

Ghostface

Lazy Bastard...
#59
<a href='http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-12-29/carnival-phantasm-3rd-season-includes-fate/prototype' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Guess who's getting animated in Season 3?</a>
 

alansg

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#60
MAJOR SPOILERS FOR CARNIVAL PHANTASM

<a href='http://otanews.livedoor.biz/archives/51849738.html' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://otanews.livedoor.biz/archives/51849738.html</a>

Fuck yes, you are the best Type Moon anime ever!
 

Halcyon7

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#61
alansg said:
MAJOR SPOILERS FOR CARNIVAL PHANTASM

<a href='http://otanews.livedoor.biz/archives/51849738.html' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://otanews.livedoor.biz/archives/51849738.html</a>

Fuck yes, you are the best Type Moon anime ever!
Is that a spoiler for season 3?

Guys, I can't handle how fucking good Type-Moon is. It's really starting to be a problem.
 

Wheeljack

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#62
Here are some pictures from Fate Prototype which came bundled with Carnival Phantasm Season 3.











Close up of Proto Saber's Excalibur, which is more ornate than Arturia's.

Edit: Adding more pics







 

Halcyon7

Well-Known Member
#63
There's one sub version of it out, but it is, put plainly, completely terrible. The translator should be beaten within an inch of his life.

Still, some fun bits. Male Saber has a seriously manly voice. And Kirei was apparently that close to being a crossdressing blond psycho with a bowl-cut, instead of a regular psycho. Lancer looks boss as all shit, can't imagine why they chose the blue jumpsuit over Prototype Lancer's GAR fur and armor pimpsuit. Gilgamesh was actually a real Archer with a bow, whose Noble Phantasm was Colony Drop.

And apparently Ilya was almost loli Morgan Le Fey/psycho!Guinevere and Sakura's origin combined, or something? It was a short scene.

Overall, cool cool shit.
 

nick012000

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#64
Halcyon7 said:
Lancer looks boss as all shit, can't imagine why they chose the blue jumpsuit over Prototype Lancer's GAR fur and armor pimpsuit.
Budget and/or artistic talent constraints. Just look at how much better Takeuchi's artwork has gotten since Fate/Stay Night; compare Lancer and Archer in Fate/Hollow Ataraxia to them in Fate/Stay Night if you want to see an easy example of what I mean.
 

ksho

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#65
Proto Saber actually looks a lot like a younger Gawain from Fate/Extra...or Blondie EMIYA with better armor. :huh:
 

nick012000

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#66
ksho said:
Proto Saber actually looks a lot like a younger Gawain from Fate/Extra...or Blondie EMIYA with better armor. :huh:
He looks more like an adult Shirou than EMIYA. I think it's the hairstyle; EMIYA's got his all spiked up and slicked back.
 

ksho

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#67
Now that you mention it, he does look more like the 20 year old Shirou seen at the end of HF compared to EMIYA.

Even with his hair down, EMIYA has a more angular face compared to adult Shirou
 

Wheeljack

Well-Known Member
#68
Halcyon7 said:
There's one sub version of it out, but it is, put plainly, completely terrible.á The translator should be beaten within an inch of his life.

Still, some fun bits.á Male Saber has a seriously manly voice.á And Kirei was apparently that close to being a crossdressing blond psycho with a bowl-cut, instead of a regular psycho.á Lancer looks boss as all shit, can't imagine why they chose the blue jumpsuit over Prototype Lancer's GAR fur and armor pimpsuit.á Gilgamesh was actually a real Archer with a bow, whose Noble Phantasm was Colony Drop.
There was a Fate Prototype Material booklet that was also included, and according to the poster food on Beast Lair:



food on Beast Lair forums said:
Key of the King's Law, Bab-ilu
-the actual Noble Phantasm is a tattoo which proves Kingship.
-it functions identically with Gate of Babylon, firing out weapons like a machine gun.
-it opens in a circular pattern around Gilgamesh, firing weapons
-it is different from Gate of Babylon in that, it can be activated while Gilgamesh is moving

Sword of the End, Enki

-the sword that summons flood. The volume of water increases each day after activation, turning into a giant tsunami by the seventh. Utnapishtim's flood.
-normal form is the dual blade carried by Gilgamesh. The hilts can turn 90 degrees, making it possible to use them as tonfa knives (a sort of fist weapon). It is converted to a bow after invoking its True Name.
-the arrow fired is a "tracer round", a homing signal, the actual Sword of the End, Enki, is what's in the orbit
-the descending bolts converge into a "Star of Destruction"
-the bolt then disappear, expanding a giant magical circle
-the tsunami is then summoned to drown the target
And as noted in that post in the booklet, Excalibur wins this round against Gilgamesh.

Halcyon7 said:
And apparently Ilya was almost loli Morgan Le Fey/psycho!Guinevere and Sakura's origin combined, or something? It was a short scene.
Apparently, the original psycho loli is Ayaka's older sister Manaka, Saber's original master from the war 8 years prior.

Again, credit to food on Beast Lair:

food on Beast Lair forums said:
Some information about the Grail War 8 years ago.

Sabre is a returning Servant, and his Master was Ayaka's sister, Aika.

Same as Altria, he fought until the finale, but realized the Grail was out of control.

"The Grail, and you, are all mad."

Those were his final words to Aika. He then proceeded to slay her and dropped the corpse into the Grail.

Sabre already encountered Ayaka in the last war, and saved her from Aika's clutches.

He answered the summons this time to save the girl who indirectly sensed the wish upon the Grail was twisted.
At the moment it is being debated if her name is Aika or Manaka, however someone else mentioned that the kana for 'Manaka' was used. And yeah, it seems she was split up into Ilya and Sakura, or rather Dark Sakura, as I think it was mentioned she has the tentacles.

EDIT - Another post from food with more info on Manaka:

food on Beast Lair forums said:
Wapanese site update for Manaka/Aika/or whatever the tiny crazy bitch is called.

Nasu seemed to have tossed every trait of every female character into a blender to make her, or she's the progenitor all all female characters in Nasuverse.

-No clear magical system (similar to the Einzbern's very non-specific "Wish-based" thing)
-Rank E quantity of Circuits, but Rank EX quality (Aoko, is that you?)
-Unusual composition of circuits (Lorelei, is that you?)
-Connection with Akasha (Ryougi Shiki, is that you?)
-Innocent, tenacious, strong, and ruthless (Fate Ilya, is that you?)
Halcyon7 said:
Overall, cool cool shit.
Agreed. I rather loved some of the music used, particularly the bits when Saber is summoned and floating down to Ayaka and when he introduces himself. The bit with his unleashing Excalibur was cool too.

It also seems that Arthur is not quite as uptight as Arturia is, with that one scene of him teasing Ayaka.

I do have more images that I was able to take. I can post a few more if anyone wants to see or in the Image Thread if that is better.
 

kitsuneb

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#69
ksho said:
Now that you mention it, he does look more like the 20 year old Shirou seen at the end of HF compared to EMIYA.

Even with his hair down, EMIYA has a more angular face compared to adult Shirou
Well, it is known that both Saver (as the prototype was known as) and the the girl's models were reused and their roles were flipped to have the Saber and Shirou that we know today.
 

Avider

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#70
Halcyon7 said:
Lancer looks boss as all shit, can't imagine why they chose the blue jumpsuit over Prototype Lancer's GAR fur and armor pimpsuit.
More like it's a new design.

About like 40% of Prototype stuff is actually prototype and the other is new.
 
#71
also i doubt that Proto-Lancer was Cu Chulain (at least for the named thing he did before getting his spear broken by excalibur)
 

Wheeljack

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#72
shioran toushin said:
also i doubt that Proto-Lancer was Cu Chulain (at least for the named thing he did before getting his spear broken by excalibur)
Actually, it is Cu Chulain. What broke wasn't Gae Bolg. Apparently, originally Lancer's Master Misaya is a bit of a bitch (and not only that, but Lancer likes it.)



IIRC her line was - "I wanted to summon a Servant who was killed by a woman. That way he knows how scary a woman can be."

From what was mentioned in Beast Lair, she gave him a broom (likely changed to the shape of a spear) to fight off with, as Gae Bolg is seen later encased within (which was later to be Kotomine's don't fight at full strength order) something that was warping the area around it. There's a line in the trailer with Lancer's voice actor complaining about a spear (presumably what he was given).



Also, this version of Cu Chulain summoned is apparently younger than the version summoned in FSN, leading to a poster on Beast Lair speculating that the one that Bazette summoned was Cu Chulain sometime just before his death.

I think it was said in that thread that the other servants were the same as seen in FSN, Hercules as Berserker and Kojirou as Assassin. Rider however was supposed to be Perseus, but later was changed to Medusa as there weren't enough female characters
 
#73
true, true, so, what exactly did he say just before getting his spear broken by Arthur? the version of the video i saw was LQ and the subs were awful.
also i said the name he said, and that his spear broke, i mean if it really were a NP then it was the shittiest NP in existance if it was broken by a simple slash of a non powered Excalibur.
 

Wheeljack

Well-Known Member
#74
shioran toushin said:
true, true, so, what exactly did he say just before getting his spear broken by Arthur? the version of the video i saw was LQ and the subs were awful.
also i said the name he said, and that his spear broke, i mean if it really were a NP then it was the shittiest NP in existance if it was broken by a simple slash of a non powered Excalibur.
Lancer says: "Yattekuretana, Kuro-majutsushi!"

My mind translates that as, "Now you've done it, Black Magus!"

However the 'kuretana' part also implies that she did him a service that he is complimenting/thanking her for depending on its usage.
 

pjanimation

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#75
So, after watching Fate/Prototype, I can't help but hope that they actually make a proper series out of this, one way or another. Seems pretty awesome. Has anything been announced, or was this simply a one-off thing?
 
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