Naruto Children of the Fox

[Mageohki]

A lot of the authority of Hiashi depends on _what_ version of "goverement" the Hidden villages have.

Honestly, if he takes the most stringent fedual view, Hiashi CAN KILL Hinata, legally, morally and ethically. With possibly a explation due to Tsudane, but htat's it.

It gets more complex when you take into various factors, like the fact that most FF writers assume a Genin is an adult in the eyes of the law (which is likey)

Still. Even with that, Hiashi dosn't want Hinata carrying to term, his word will carry a LOT of weight. I'm not going to go into all the details and logic behind it, but suffice it to say, even if Tsudane orders no abortions, and/or the Council agrees (or orders the same)... HIashi CAN quite likey get away killing the unborn child... or not. Depends on what Grum thinks.

Also, re child rights. Uh.
Quite unlikey. Given there's a direct implication of clan weight, and adoption marriages in Konoha...

Naruto as father (even assuming _he_ did the deed to create the kiddie), unless he chooses to grant the kid (s) his clan name, or marry the mother, WOULDN"T have any rights.
Period, nil, none.

And, even then, there's a STRONG impusle in Japanese culture that Mothers get the rights (MUCH MORE THAN the west)

*shrugs* Grum's writing it, let's see how he deals.

Andrew

 

[SotF]

Except with Hinata there is a simple action that Tsunade can use to directly take down Hiashi in response. She could simply say that it is treason by forcing it through because it risks the life of village shinobi and is thus treason and grounds for execution...especially with Orochimaru's expirament killing all but one so interferance could cause an even bigger loss of life.

 

[GenocideHeart]

There's one last detail to keep in mind.

Unless I completely messed the time period up, Konoha is still under martial law due to the emergency post-invasion. Read: the Hokage's word is final in any and all matters that involve a registered Konoha shinobi - which Hinata is, thanks in no small part to Hiashi's brilliant idea to let her attend academy. You disobey an order from the Hokage, you get courtmartialed and at the very least demoted back to the Stone Age, if not outright executed.

Yes, Konoha can't spare ninja, but it can spare insubordination even less. And public execution of a clan head for treason would send a very clear message from Tsunade: "Do what I say if you like your head where it is." And Tsunade would be allowed to do it. Emergency sityuations generally give the highest authority full powers over everything.

If it was peacetime, Hiashi would have all the rights in the world, from certain points of view. But Konoha is in a fragile state at that moment, so much so that Tsunade preferred to *recover a genin who had turned traitor* rather than have him killed - and sent inexperienced genin and a newbie chuunin after said traitor because she literally had no adults to spare.

In that situation, any government worth a damn applies martial law. In the time period this fic would take place in, Tsunade's power would be absolute due to the emergency.

It doesn't MATTER if it would normally be a clan issue. During wartime and recovery time, when martial law is going, the village leader will have the final say in the matter. Disagreeing is going to be a very nice one-way trip to Hotel Morino on grounds of insubordination and crimes against the government.

Just a little something to consider...

 

[cjcold]

Very Interesting.

I like the way that the mad scientist carrying Tsunade's kid is the only thing keeping her alive. Though since she can't trust herself, and Shizune was also a victim it might be dificult finding someone you trust to do the medical checkups and delivery.

I do look forward to Tsunade explaining this to the younger girls :sweat: . Remember they don't know about the Kyuubi so they would question why Naruto was used as the father. I can't wait to see her explain that, it would be in her best interests to tell the truth with her own slant before their families find out and tell them their version of story and convince them to abort the 'demon spawn'.

Wonder what the reaction from the other villages will be if/when they find out? Afterall if the mad scientist is even partially right then in 15-20 years Konoho is going to have a hufe advantage which will only get worse the generation after that with increasing numbers and more knowledge of the new bloodlines abilities.

Any chance of the kunoichis coming together in a mutual support group to help with the pregnancies and taking care of the children(who are siblings of each other) after birth. Would be good for protection after all Akatsuki and other groups have to be thinking that they make a sweet target and maybe leverage on Naruto himself.

More soon please.

 

[zeebee1]

Why is everyone calling the author Grum? Hiashi can't kill Hinata to get rid of the kid because Tsunade is in charge of all of her shinobi. They die either on the field, or when she says so. The question is whether or not he can force her to abort. Arranging an accident would be simple.

 

[Reikson]

Yeah! Gmusick also posts on Fanfiction.net... once in a blue moon, anyway, but still, he AIN'T GRUM!

 

[Nekrataal]

Awesome work Gmusick!

I politely request mo4r.

(By the way, who's this Grum guy everyone is talking about?)

 

[Gmusick2k]

One of the main reasons I made it such a high number, 42, is because everyone of the women won't carry the kids to term. There will be those that have the abortion just to spite Naruto because of what he is. Then you factor in miscarriages, intentional and accidental and that number will shrink considerable.

This entire debacle is going to put Konoha into an intrernal divide. Those who actually care for Naruto and the women now linked to him. Then there are those that either want him dead or want to use him and his children in some way.

When he returns three years have passed so he's basically walking into a minefield blindfolded. Naruto and Jiraiya having to cut off communications because of the danger it presented.

 

[perfect_solider]

What will Akatsuki think of this develpoment? Orochimaru?

 

[SirBino]

Awesome work Gmusick!

I politely request mo4r.

(By the way, who's this Grum guy everyone is talking about?)

He's an author infamous for his annual updates. And I do mean annual, he normally updates every Christmas. Primarily he writes Ranma 1/2 stories, which are pretty good, but since anifics is down currently, I don't know of anywhere his stories are hosted.

Also, I agree, more of this story is needed.

 

[Arsao]

Why is everyone calling the author Grum? Hiashi can't kill Hinata to get rid of the kid because Tsunade is in charge of all of her shinobi. They die either on the field, or when she says so. The question is whether or not he can force her to abort. Arranging an accident would be simple.

I agree, that does sound like something that, soory 'bout this, ass would do.

 

[Cuchullain]

Great story cant wait for more.

As far as i can tell a bloodline is basically a selective breeding program.
A family has children with similar abilities pair off in the hope that their
children will have similar if not stronger abilitites.

A demon vessel is a child whose genetic structure and chakra pathways
have been altered to allow the host to use its demons ablities, thus a
vessels DNA could be considered a potential beginning bloodline.

I think konoha is going to keep what happened as quiet as possible
if word got out to the other villages that in about two decades konoha
could have around 48 shinobi (give or take a couple of deaths or multiple
births) with immense power. The other villages might join together to attack
konoha now so they wont have to deal with the fox children later.

 

[Gmusick2k]

Akatsuki, can't see them stopping their primary mission, which is to gather all the tailed-beast. What purpose would they have for the children? Killing them off to prevent future problems, yeah. Kidnapping to raise them into weapons, hardly. Doubt any of them would have the patience for it.

But there is going to be more of a sub-plot concerning Kurenai's twins. Earlier I set it up as her clan mostly being the genetic rejects from the Uchiha, and that was for a purpose. Itachi and Sasuke, both who thought they were the last two able to use the Sharigan, are going to deal with finding out that isnt the case anymore.

Orochimaru. If there ever was a reason to destroy Konoha, this is it. Children with new variations of bloodlines is too enticing a prospect for him to leave alone. He's smart enought to know Konoha is going to be a fortress from now on to protect its kids, and he can't do it alone. So why not just leak the information on purpose and use the other hidden villages to do his dirty work.

Just to clarify, the kids are going to be around the age of 2 when Naruto returns, varying in months. And Im not aiming to make everyone some super powered prodigy. Hell, at 2 years old, they're still trying to put their clothes on right.

 

[rasengen]

I can just imagine Kyuubi sensing the children and snickering, anticipating the explosion as Naruto gets back into Konoha.

Or

"Wai Kits" Nodaka style with fans then noticing Naruto watching :blink: :jawdrop: :blink:

"Gaki, we need to talk" :sweat:

 

[windfalcon]

I can see Itachi and Kisame hearing about the kids, then kidnapping them sometime after Naruto learns of them to use as bait.

What better way to catch your prey, than through something precious to them after all? He traveled far and away to find Gaara, makes sense he'll do the same thing for his children.

... now think about just how pissed he'll be? Not to mention how pissed the mothers would be. A train wreck waiting to happen I tell you.

 

[zeebee1]

If they were the type to try to lure Naruto away with a kidnapping then they would have done so with Iruka.

 

[tetrambs]

nah, iruka has already shown that he'd go and be suicidal (read: throw away life) for naruto. Suicidal people don't make good hostages.

 

[zeebee1]

Unconcious suicidal people make good hostages.

 

[japanese_jew]

I doubt it, truth be told. They wake up, they bite through their tongue, and, bang. Dead people make the worst hostages.

JJ

(Except for the unloved)

 

[Pirazy]

I doubt it, truth be told.? They wake up, they bite through their tongue, and, bang.? Dead people make the worst hostages.

JJ

(Except for the unloved)

Not with a gagball they don't.

Feel free to imagine it in your minds eye.. :evil2:

 

[tetrambs]

no, i refuse to imagine iruka with a ball gag..... damn it.... :no:

 

[zeebee1]

And there is no one in the Akatsuki that can induce comas?

 

[t_gebhardt]

Well a hostage doesn't need to be alive as long as everyone things the hostage is still alive. And a hostage in coma is not that different from a dead hostage in it's ability to prove that she is still alive.

 

[holyknight]

It seems like EVERYONE forgot one detail...... :hmm:

We Have over FORTY Kunoichi and woman, quite PREGNANT...What this means?

Now....we're talking of Several powerful and relatively skilled on their field, some trigger happy, some domineering, some slightly psychotic and/or blood lusting women and teenagers....

Now....what happens when over forty Kunoichi gals, Pregnant at the same time on ONE Village, have to deal with Morning Sickness, Weird Food Fetishes to crazy hours, Mood Swings on 720? degrees, what can be triggered for absolutely innocent or strange reasons, Constipation, Backache, Leg cramps, Bladder Incontinence, and MANY of the "wonders" what are companions of Pregnancy... :sick: :sick:

Konoha, apart of the Drama and all the problems born of the act of the Dr Akagi, will have to deal with the hell of pregnant Nin..for the next 9 months....I can think what once Tsunade's child is born, ALL on the village will scream for getting the Dr, to be appropriately drawn, quartered, and turned into food for the Aburame and Inuzuka companions.. :evil2: :evil2:

It would be quite interesting to see a extract of the nine months what will come....How would be the mood changes and food fetishes what display the girls........Who can see a Anko...suddenly acting all sweet and sugary? While Hinata goes Berserker on her dad for why he took the last portion of her favourite treat on the kitchen?? :rofl: :rofl:

The Nine Months from Hell on Konoha are starting gentlemen and ladies. Throw your best Crack shot to aid Gmusick!!! :yay: :yay:

 

[zeebee1]

They have had baby booms before. Tsunade expected that to happen. So there are forty two woman pregantn at once. There have probably been times where they had over a hundred pregnant at once. This situation would be unique not through the number of pregnancies, but the fact that they all happened in the same month instead of over several months.