Dresden Files

Belgarion213 said:
Actually i'm pretty sure that Dresden in one of the books mentions that its a GOOD thing to make up spells in a language you barely understand. If you actually UNDERSTAND what your saying you overload them with power or something. Or maybe that was a fic?

Actually using Babalfish and making something up that roughly translates to 'may the fire burn you' or something is probably a good enough way to go.
Different world, though I have read a book set in that world.
 

spooky316

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From what I understand, it's not what you say that matters. Remember, Harry's got that lighting spell "Flickum Bickus."

EDIT: To be a little more clear, I think the order of what happens is

1. Do something with your magic (aka Create a spell)

2. Say something while casting it so you remember what it does (aka Name it)

So basically if you felt like it you could name spells after Slayers magic or something.
 

SotF

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Belgarion213 said:
Actually i'm pretty sure that Dresden in one of the books mentions that its a GOOD thing to make up spells in a language you barely understand. If you actually UNDERSTAND what your saying you overload them with power or something. Or maybe that was a fic?

Actually using Babalfish and making something up that roughly translates to 'may the fire burn you' or something is probably a good enough way to go.
Actually, I thought I remembered him saying that it's in an odd or made up language simply because it makes it harder to accidentally trigger it.
 

Innortal

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That and the target doesn't actually know what it does.
 

Belgarion213

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SotF said:
Belgarion213 said:
Actually i'm pretty sure that Dresden in one of the books mentions that its a GOOD thing to make up spells in a language you barely understand. If you actually UNDERSTAND what your saying you overload them with power or something. Or maybe that was a fic?

Actually using Babalfish and making something up that roughly translates to 'may the fire burn you' or something is probably a good enough way to go.
Actually, I thought I remembered him saying that it's in an odd or made up language simply because it makes it harder to accidentally trigger it.
Yeah I'm pretty sure I remember that. Its why Dresden does his spells in a half taught Latin. He is unlikely to say the trigger words he has been using in casual conversation. Though that's just Dresden's thing. Its mentioned that other Wizards use other means to trigger their magic including prayer.
 

SotF

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Belgarion213 said:
SotF said:
Belgarion213 said:
Actually i'm pretty sure that Dresden in one of the books mentions that its a GOOD thing to make up spells in a language you barely understand. If you actually UNDERSTAND what your saying you overload them with power or something. Or maybe that was a fic?

Actually using Babalfish and making something up that roughly translates to 'may the fire burn you' or something is probably a good enough way to go.
Actually, I thought I remembered him saying that it's in an odd or made up language simply because it makes it harder to accidentally trigger it.
Yeah I'm pretty sure I remember that. Its why Dresden does his spells in a half taught Latin. He is unlikely to say the trigger words he has been using in casual conversation. Though that's just Dresden's thing. Its mentioned that other Wizards use other means to trigger their magic including prayer.
Especially since the words don't even have to come out correctly in order to work right.

But it makes sense so that you don't accidentally, say, immolate your apartment while talking on the phone about a news story...
 

Steel

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The reason for chapter cliff hangers in DF is because Butcher writes chapters and sends them to his betas. Sounds familiar, eh?
 

Khortez

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SotF said:
Especially since the words don't even have to come out correctly in order to work right.

But it makes sense so that you don't accidentally, say, immolate your apartment while talking on the phone about a news story...
Even if he said the words nothing would happen unless he uses his 'will' to make it happen. Magic isn't about words, which is why everyone has different ones, it is about will. The words use make it easier to focus, especially if you want some different results each time.
 

SotF

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Khortez said:
SotF said:
Especially since the words don't even have to come out correctly in order to work right.

But it makes sense so that you don't accidentally, say, immolate your apartment while talking on the phone about a news story...
Even if he said the words nothing would happen unless he uses his 'will' to make it happen. Magic isn't about words, which is why everyone has different ones, it is about will. The words use make it easier to focus, especially if you want some different results each time.
True, but in his inner monologue I think he'd mentioned the other as well.

Of course it could also be because it keeps him from setting door to door salesmen on fire or something.
 

greenmean

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Or if youre talking about phone conversations: telemarketeers. Emotional talks etc.
(And since even a bit of magic can mess up tech... )

I think its also a bit about focusing the magic. The exact meaning of the symbols, words or sounds don't matter.

Since dresden has the issue of having more power and less control. Its why he uses his staff. Which has symbols on it.
He also needs to replace his staff every once in a while.
 

Steel

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Found a possible source for He Who Walks Behind. Franz Leiber's Conjure Wife, he who walks behind is a...I dunno, summoned curse/monster/supernatural entity that removes souls.
 

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Takerial

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I still have the book prior to the one coming out to read through (it's coming here via mail as we speak.) So I'm trying to avoid reading anything to really hype me up on this new book.

Granted, I probably will put a preorder onto the new book once I do. I'm wanting to convert my collection into complete hardcover and if I preorder I shave half the price off at most places it seems.
 

Watashiwa

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ttestagr said:
Its tuesday, and chapter 2 is here. Just finished it.
Same here. I like where this is going; nice to see that Dresden isn't going to roll over and let Susan back in his life.

Show of hands, who thinks that Susan is dead by the end?

And who thinks that Dresden is going to keep his daughter?

(Note: This is speculation.)
 

ttestagr

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I'm pretty sure that Harry will keep his daughter. My question though, is how vampiric she is. Since Susan admitted that she was conceived back during their bondage session.
 

Terdwilicker

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ttestagr said:
I'm pretty sure that Harry will keep his daughter. My question though, is how vampiric she is. Since Susan admitted that she was conceived back during their bondage session.
A good question. Considering that Harry himself is more than human-wizard due to his Outsider smacking abilities (a very rare ability, that) and his half-brother is a White Court incubus, and there's implied creepy power in his family line on his mother's side PRIOR to the various agreements she made with things from the Never-Never, the real question isn't as simple as his daughter having vampiric abilities, but just how much of the Du Morne blood holds true in her. I seem to recall that the wizarding bloodline is maternal rather than Paternal, but that idea may be from the TV show rather than the books. I'm still re-reading them.

Harry is usually alone. I can only think that his daughter won't make it through this adventure, not as a human anyway. She's likely to be turned just to upset him and get all angsty having to put down his daughter. Besides, Harry has Ivy to consider. She's an adopted daughter as such, and a very good potential teacher of magic finesse he sorely needs, and he can offer her lessons in recovering her humanity, something she obviously craves from the evidence of the fight at the Aquarium. Something would have to happen to Murphy and that half-demon guy protecting Ivy for that to happen, however, which would be the next book.

He has an Outsider as an island outpost. It scares the hell out of the White Council Merlin and the Gatekeeper, Rashid, whose job he will eventually take over since he's the only other known wizard who can use magic on Outsiders. Something will end up happening with that island as a key ingredient. And those swords are still lurking, waiting to be handed out to some hardcore Xtians. Butcher never leaves a dangling thread. They will end up resolved eventually.
 

Steel

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His island may not be an outsider. In fact, I suspect it's just very old. Think a stonehenge equivalent.
 
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