Election: Mod 1
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We just concluded our popularity contest for 'Favorite TFF author'. Thread here,
http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19511&pid=1155139
One of the moderator candidates won the contest. As proof, I present to you his certificate,
I have no idea if this translates to The Ero-Sennin being a good moderator. You are the voters. YOU decide.
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http://thefanfictionforum.net/showthread.php?tid=19511&pid=1155139
One of the moderator candidates won the contest. As proof, I present to you his certificate,
I have no idea if this translates to The Ero-Sennin being a good moderator. You are the voters. YOU decide.
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There is SOME validity in this argument, but I lean like this,
We're voting to elect someone. Every single person who's in the election has self-confirmed their nomination. We expect them to be self-confident (and enthusiastic) to do the job - I translate this as self-voting.
Now, for sake of argument lets say that you voted for someone else. What does that mean for the people who voted for YOU? I consider that as back-stabbing.
The situation would be a little different if we either didn't allow any of the candidates to vote themselves OR we didn't allow self-voting. Neither of which is practical to implement here.
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We're voting to elect someone. Every single person who's in the election has self-confirmed their nomination. We expect them to be self-confident (and enthusiastic) to do the job - I translate this as self-voting.
Now, for sake of argument lets say that you voted for someone else. What does that mean for the people who voted for YOU? I consider that as back-stabbing.
The situation would be a little different if we either didn't allow any of the candidates to vote themselves OR we didn't allow self-voting. Neither of which is practical to implement here.
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I didn't vote for myself mainly because I think it's very poor form to do so. Never did it once before, never will. Way I see it, it's everyone else who should vote for you if they think you're the right man for the job. Sure, YOU may think you're the big cheese and all, but that doesn't make you smell like roses all of a sudden.
If the people I'm supposed to mod over think I'm the right man, then good. What I think of myself has zero impact in others' decision. Or at least that's how it should be.
Of course, I also loudly declared that people would have to be a bit nuts to vote for me (which I still think and which is totally true), but if they think I'm trustworthy, then I'm going to take the job and do my level best at it.
Although, I suspect the fact that I'm one of those rare individuals who wouldn't abuse mod powers to do poorly-tasteful crap like 'win' arguments may have to do with it. I detest this kind of pettiness, so I'm rather unlikely to do it. Sure, I'm liable to eat your face if I get in an argument with you, but I'll do it fair and square, not hide behind the threat of moderating. That's uncool, yo.
This is just my $0.02, anyway. I still think we have 34 nutjobs on this board as of right now.
That's a good point, but look at it like this: candidates may be confident enough in their skill to feel they simply don't NEED to vote for themselves, thinking their reputation speaks for them or some such crap.
(I personally think that's a bunch of baloney, but a few candidates in the recent US elections thought exactly that, and Berlusconi also seems to think that here in Italy, and it apparently works)
Me, I simply find self-voting in poor taste, regardless of whether I think I'm the best pick or not. It just... smells of self-aggrandizing. Being confident is good, being egocentric is not.
*shrug*
If the people I'm supposed to mod over think I'm the right man, then good. What I think of myself has zero impact in others' decision. Or at least that's how it should be.
Of course, I also loudly declared that people would have to be a bit nuts to vote for me (which I still think and which is totally true), but if they think I'm trustworthy, then I'm going to take the job and do my level best at it.
Although, I suspect the fact that I'm one of those rare individuals who wouldn't abuse mod powers to do poorly-tasteful crap like 'win' arguments may have to do with it. I detest this kind of pettiness, so I'm rather unlikely to do it. Sure, I'm liable to eat your face if I get in an argument with you, but I'll do it fair and square, not hide behind the threat of moderating. That's uncool, yo.
This is just my $0.02, anyway. I still think we have 34 nutjobs on this board as of right now.
That's a good point, but look at it like this: candidates may be confident enough in their skill to feel they simply don't NEED to vote for themselves, thinking their reputation speaks for them or some such crap.
(I personally think that's a bunch of baloney, but a few candidates in the recent US elections thought exactly that, and Berlusconi also seems to think that here in Italy, and it apparently works)
Me, I simply find self-voting in poor taste, regardless of whether I think I'm the best pick or not. It just... smells of self-aggrandizing. Being confident is good, being egocentric is not.
*shrug*
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Generally in US politics, don't politicians vote for themselves? I thought it was something of a tradition, especially in Presidential Elections, for candidates to cast their vote for themselves.
Frankly, I don't see a problem with it. Having confidence in your abilities and voting for yourself because you want the job is one thing. Being an overbearing asshat and badgering people into voting for you AND voting for yourself is quite another.
I also don't think it's right for other people to call voters out on their voting choices, even if they do vote for themselves (which I did). What business is it of theirs? Voting is a personal choice and a choice that one should not be mocked or bullied for if others don't agree with it.
Frankly, I don't see a problem with it. Having confidence in your abilities and voting for yourself because you want the job is one thing. Being an overbearing asshat and badgering people into voting for you AND voting for yourself is quite another.
I also don't think it's right for other people to call voters out on their voting choices, even if they do vote for themselves (which I did). What business is it of theirs? Voting is a personal choice and a choice that one should not be mocked or bullied for if others don't agree with it.
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Voting should be private, I agree. That's why I don't really like that this poll let's you see who voted for whom. In addition to people calling out others for whom they voted for, another problem is that it tends to polarize the votes, with whomever gets an early lead quickly turning into a landslide victor because many people don't want to feel like their vote was "wasted" on someone who had no chance of winning. And if someone is uninformed about the candidates or has no preference seeing that one person is greatly in the lead can influence their decision.
But then we are voting on a mod for a forum, not for the next president. It's not like the system needs to be perfect. At least we don't need to worry about sock puppets swaying the vote.
But then we are voting on a mod for a forum, not for the next president. It's not like the system needs to be perfect. At least we don't need to worry about sock puppets swaying the vote.
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Relevant to what? As I mentioned in chat, I'm already seeing conspiracy theories fly around, and the theorists are making a frightening amount of sense. One such theorist claims that the war effort support in the US is not exactly warm, and that this might be an inside job in the US designed to rekindle hatred towards terrorism.
I'd like to think this is just insane mirror climbing, but... the truth is that things like these did happen in the past.
Hopefully I'm just being too paranoid and this is just the doing of a lunatic with too much time and materials in his hands and an unhinged mind. Because the alternatives are too horrible to consider.
Either way, this is best discussed in the Politics thread, probably.
I'd like to think this is just insane mirror climbing, but... the truth is that things like these did happen in the past.
Hopefully I'm just being too paranoid and this is just the doing of a lunatic with too much time and materials in his hands and an unhinged mind. Because the alternatives are too horrible to consider.
Either way, this is best discussed in the Politics thread, probably.
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I can agree with that...
To be clear, I did not mean to imply that *I* agreed with them, merely that all the posts seemed to boil down to that.
I do not think people realize either that there are to be *3* mods...
And to compare the election of a mod on a forum to major elections in a country seems way out of wack...
To be clear, I did not mean to imply that *I* agreed with them, merely that all the posts seemed to boil down to that.
I do not think people realize either that there are to be *3* mods...
And to compare the election of a mod on a forum to major elections in a country seems way out of wack...
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As chairman of the Committee for Forming Committees, I will put together a report on who should be on the committee leading the inquiry into the necessity of a recount.
The preliminary summary of the initial findings should be available by late October, if scheduling goes according to plan.
The preliminary summary of the initial findings should be available by late October, if scheduling goes according to plan.
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Oh, but they already have. And you won. Congratulations!
Because that's bound to turn out swimmingly!
Because that's bound to turn out swimmingly!
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