Nasuverse Fate/time loop
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I think that's Ciel. Shinji's hair is bright blue, and is, I believe, stated to be blue canonically. Plus, other characters have black hair, and it's drawn as black.
Besides, if anyone thought Sakura's hair was dyed, they'd have commented on it, since dying your hair is a pretty unusual thing to do in Japan, especially for someone as seemingly conservative as Sakura. It's almost certainly not allowed under school rules, either (it wasn't allowed even in my school, and Japanese schools are a lot stricter).
Besides, if anyone thought Sakura's hair was dyed, they'd have commented on it, since dying your hair is a pretty unusual thing to do in Japan, especially for someone as seemingly conservative as Sakura. It's almost certainly not allowed under school rules, either (it wasn't allowed even in my school, and Japanese schools are a lot stricter).
Rin's hair is black, and drawn as a dark grey. Shinji's hair being black and drawn as blue isn't too farfetched.
As for Sakura getting in trouble with school for her hair, well, Zouken is a powerful magician. He might very well have cast a spell on her to prevent people from really noticing that her hair is all that unusual, or have simply bewitched the school staff in a similar fashion to the way Ilya keeps bewitching Shirou (but with spells rather than Mystic Eyes).
As for Sakura getting in trouble with school for her hair, well, Zouken is a powerful magician. He might very well have cast a spell on her to prevent people from really noticing that her hair is all that unusual, or have simply bewitched the school staff in a similar fashion to the way Ilya keeps bewitching Shirou (but with spells rather than Mystic Eyes).
There's a difference between drawing black hair as dark grey, and drawing it as bright blue. Besides, I'm almost certain that it's canonically described to be blue (unlike Ciel, who IIRC is described as having black hair even though it's drawn to be dark blue).
And, as for Sakura's hair, Zouken could, perhaps, bewitch some of the people at the school, but he couldn't bewitch Rin, and he couldn't bewitch Shirou (probably). Plus, he would have had to have met them first, and that would involve him coming into the school to do so. In any case, I'm pretty certain that no-one thought her hair was dyed, because they'd have at least commented on it.
Also, Zouken is a powerful magus, but his speciality is binding and absorbtion. He isn't able to put curses and such like on people, because they invariably return to him (as Sakura says in HF, she can only use her magic to absorb things from other people, because that's how Matou magic works). Ilya can do such things to Shirou because it's one of her specialities.
And, as for Sakura's hair, Zouken could, perhaps, bewitch some of the people at the school, but he couldn't bewitch Rin, and he couldn't bewitch Shirou (probably). Plus, he would have had to have met them first, and that would involve him coming into the school to do so. In any case, I'm pretty certain that no-one thought her hair was dyed, because they'd have at least commented on it.
Also, Zouken is a powerful magus, but his speciality is binding and absorbtion. He isn't able to put curses and such like on people, because they invariably return to him (as Sakura says in HF, she can only use her magic to absorb things from other people, because that's how Matou magic works). Ilya can do such things to Shirou because it's one of her specialities.
Or, alternately, you could assume that purple hair, like blue hair, is just naturally occuring in the Nasuverse (even if, presumably, rare, in Japan at least). After all, her brother has blue hair, so it's not likely that they'd find it odd that her hair was purple. Plus, the Matou family is actually originally foreign, so that could explain why they are the only ones in the area with weird hair colours.
It makes more sense than assuming that everyone assumed that Sakura had dyed her hair, even though it in no way fits with her personality, including Shirou and Taiga (who is a teacher), who actually knew her well enough to know this.
It makes more sense than assuming that everyone assumed that Sakura had dyed her hair, even though it in no way fits with her personality, including Shirou and Taiga (who is a teacher), who actually knew her well enough to know this.
Say, how you guys feel like about stories written in the present tense? Because everytime I'm working on a FSN story, it's just what comes naturally. So I gave in and didn't go back and correct every verb.
Anyway, more 1st loop shenanigans.
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Shirou.
His consciousness stirs.
Shirou.
He knows that name.
Shirou.
His name. Someone is calling him.
ôShirou.ö
He knows that voice. Her voice.
ôShirou.ö
He should answer. But he is so tired.
Time passes and his name isn't repeated. Did she give up?
Something hard and heavy burrows into his guts. The intense pain forces his eyes open and he rolls away into a defensive position, his twin blades right below his hand's skin.
He comes face to face with Saber. ôShirou. You're awake.ö She's kneeling near his futon and stares at him stonily.
ôI am now.ö He grumbles as he gets to his feet. Saber's armor is gone and he wonders where she has found the frilly black dress she is wearing now. And what he felt just now, wasn't that..?
ôSaber, did you...ö try to punch my liver out with your armored fist?
He can't find the courage to ask. Somehow, those empty yellow eyes are more menacing than anything he's ever seen. ôNevermind.ö
ôAs you are awake Shirou, you should go make breakfast.ö
Emiya blinks. ôThe contract has been properly established, right?ö
ôIt has.ö
Hunger should not be an issue, then. ôI'm providing with enough mana, Am I not?ö
ôYou are.ö
ôThen why-ö
ôShirou, ö she cuts him off abruptly, ômana and breakfast are two different things. Stop asking pointless questions and attend to your duties.ö
Emiya just looks at her. She stares back impassively, giving nothing away.
Yet behind it, if he looks really hard, he can almost see her shuffling in embarrassment.
If it wasn't courting death he'd probably snicker. He'll settle for a knowing smile.ôAlright, Alright. I'm going.ö
Corrupted or not, Saber is still Saber it seems.
*************
Emiya watches as passengers exit the train that has just arrived at Fuyuki's station. If his informations are correct, his quarry should be among them.
With her knowledge of the corruption of the Grail, Saber has no interest in the War and doesn't seem overly interested in Emiya Shirou's wellbeing, and so he is here alone. For the time being, that suits him fine.
The existence of this Saber is a mysterious one. Her state of corruption and the fact that she knows him indicates that she is from the future. Or rather ôaö future, one where Emiya Shirou has successfully defeated her, aided, he suspects strongly, by his left arm. For an ordinary Heroic Spirit this would have been the end. He would have vanished while a record of his deeds would have reached his real self bound in the Throne of Heroes.
But Saber is different. As she became a Heroic spirit while still alive, it is her own self that participates in the war and then returns time and again to its origin, not a copy. Thus any change Saber goes through is permanent and that warped version of Saber, Alter, can be summoned.
Those are only educated guesses, however, as Saber isn't talking. He wishes he could believe it's because she likes his miso so much.
Emiya's focus is brought back to the present, as his quarry has just set foot on the platform. She too appears alone, only carrying a light suitcase, but he knows that right beside her, invisible to even his eyes, her Servant must be lurking.
She walks briskly to the exit of the station and hails a taxi. Emiya rises from his hiding spot on the roof of a nearby building and gives chase.
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Anyway, more 1st loop shenanigans.
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Shirou.
His consciousness stirs.
Shirou.
He knows that name.
Shirou.
His name. Someone is calling him.
ôShirou.ö
He knows that voice. Her voice.
ôShirou.ö
He should answer. But he is so tired.
Time passes and his name isn't repeated. Did she give up?
Something hard and heavy burrows into his guts. The intense pain forces his eyes open and he rolls away into a defensive position, his twin blades right below his hand's skin.
He comes face to face with Saber. ôShirou. You're awake.ö She's kneeling near his futon and stares at him stonily.
ôI am now.ö He grumbles as he gets to his feet. Saber's armor is gone and he wonders where she has found the frilly black dress she is wearing now. And what he felt just now, wasn't that..?
ôSaber, did you...ö try to punch my liver out with your armored fist?
He can't find the courage to ask. Somehow, those empty yellow eyes are more menacing than anything he's ever seen. ôNevermind.ö
ôAs you are awake Shirou, you should go make breakfast.ö
Emiya blinks. ôThe contract has been properly established, right?ö
ôIt has.ö
Hunger should not be an issue, then. ôI'm providing with enough mana, Am I not?ö
ôYou are.ö
ôThen why-ö
ôShirou, ö she cuts him off abruptly, ômana and breakfast are two different things. Stop asking pointless questions and attend to your duties.ö
Emiya just looks at her. She stares back impassively, giving nothing away.
Yet behind it, if he looks really hard, he can almost see her shuffling in embarrassment.
If it wasn't courting death he'd probably snicker. He'll settle for a knowing smile.ôAlright, Alright. I'm going.ö
Corrupted or not, Saber is still Saber it seems.
*************
Emiya watches as passengers exit the train that has just arrived at Fuyuki's station. If his informations are correct, his quarry should be among them.
With her knowledge of the corruption of the Grail, Saber has no interest in the War and doesn't seem overly interested in Emiya Shirou's wellbeing, and so he is here alone. For the time being, that suits him fine.
The existence of this Saber is a mysterious one. Her state of corruption and the fact that she knows him indicates that she is from the future. Or rather ôaö future, one where Emiya Shirou has successfully defeated her, aided, he suspects strongly, by his left arm. For an ordinary Heroic Spirit this would have been the end. He would have vanished while a record of his deeds would have reached his real self bound in the Throne of Heroes.
But Saber is different. As she became a Heroic spirit while still alive, it is her own self that participates in the war and then returns time and again to its origin, not a copy. Thus any change Saber goes through is permanent and that warped version of Saber, Alter, can be summoned.
Those are only educated guesses, however, as Saber isn't talking. He wishes he could believe it's because she likes his miso so much.
Emiya's focus is brought back to the present, as his quarry has just set foot on the platform. She too appears alone, only carrying a light suitcase, but he knows that right beside her, invisible to even his eyes, her Servant must be lurking.
She walks briskly to the exit of the station and hails a taxi. Emiya rises from his hiding spot on the roof of a nearby building and gives chase.
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I prefer past tense to present as a personal bias. I find it easier to write for the past tense so I enjoy it more. Immaterial really.
Let's see if I have the time right. Warning, MAJOR SPOILERS FOR the Heaven's Feel route of Fate/Stay Night below.
Based on what's written, this should be after Archer transplanted the arm onto him. Saber has been corrupted already, and it appears that this has transferred to her original self at the point where she made the contract with the Earth. Does that mean that the only Saber Arturia that can be summoned is Saber Alter? And for that matter, how did he summon Saber Alter in the first place?
Let's see if I have the time right. Warning, MAJOR SPOILERS FOR the Heaven's Feel route of Fate/Stay Night below.
Based on what's written, this should be after Archer transplanted the arm onto him. Saber has been corrupted already, and it appears that this has transferred to her original self at the point where she made the contract with the Earth. Does that mean that the only Saber Arturia that can be summoned is Saber Alter? And for that matter, how did he summon Saber Alter in the first place?
Me too, actually. It's just that every time I get in the mindset of the visual novel, the sentences naturally come out in the present tense.
Archer summoned Alter the normal way. It's just that despite his precautions the summoning was influenced by its caster. And just like Archer is a distorted version of Emiya Shirou (not making anything up here, that was in the VN), he summoned the distorted version of Saber.
And normal Saber can still be summoned, the spell just needs to grab her before her corruption.
Archer summoned Alter the normal way. It's just that despite his precautions the summoning was influenced by its caster. And just like Archer is a distorted version of Emiya Shirou (not making anything up here, that was in the VN), he summoned the distorted version of Saber.
And normal Saber can still be summoned, the spell just needs to grab her before her corruption.
The first thing Shirou noticed in the new loop, was Saber, wearing a much shorter skirt than she normally did, and walking up a set of steps. The second was pain, as he ran into a rail, fell off the skateboard he had been riding, and hit the concrete.
This, he thought, has to be Xander's loop. I wonder who's replacing Willow.
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I'm not sure who's who, but Gilgamesh makes an interesting fit for Angel, and Sakura makes a scary fit for Willow (though Sakura had a far better excuse to go psycho).
This, he thought, has to be Xander's loop. I wonder who's replacing Willow.
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I'm not sure who's who, but Gilgamesh makes an interesting fit for Angel, and Sakura makes a scary fit for Willow (though Sakura had a far better excuse to go psycho).
See, Archer would make a better ANGEL than Xander. Shirou would make a better Xander. Besides, I could go on and on how Angel and Archer are a lot alike, especially when Angel goes dark (not Angelus, him going batshit in season 2 of Angel).
If we're going to do FSN as BTVS
Saber=Buffy
Rin= Cordelia
Sakura= Willow
Kotomine . . . God, I'd love to make him Giles.
Archer=Angel
Shirou= Xander
Gilgamesh= The Master
Caster and Kuzuki= Well, they'd take Spike and Dru's place in the second season.
Ilya=Dawn
If we're going to do FSN as BTVS
Saber=Buffy
Rin= Cordelia
Sakura= Willow
Kotomine . . . God, I'd love to make him Giles.
Archer=Angel
Shirou= Xander
Gilgamesh= The Master
Caster and Kuzuki= Well, they'd take Spike and Dru's place in the second season.
Ilya=Dawn