Naruto Fateless (Naruto/Blood Omen crossover)
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zeebee1 said:
holyknight, I hope you were talking to yourself. Otherwise your just another part of the reason that Hawk is thining of shutting down the Naruto section. Not to mention that he could easily ban you for your obvious breach of the rules.
Damn. Just bloody brilliant.
Abuse of the Naruto Forums
Originally he was annoyed at people posting stuff in the wrong sections, aka breaking rule 4. And he decided to possibly temp ban the offenders.
Now, he's pissed at all of the arguements that pop up, go on for pages, completely derail the topic, and dissolving into personal insults.
And personally, that problem is quickly becomming too common. So, possible some to all of the Naruto forums are facing a possible shutdown because of it.
EDIT: Damn, a minute too late.
Originally he was annoyed at people posting stuff in the wrong sections, aka breaking rule 4. And he decided to possibly temp ban the offenders.
Now, he's pissed at all of the arguements that pop up, go on for pages, completely derail the topic, and dissolving into personal insults.
And personally, that problem is quickly becomming too common. So, possible some to all of the Naruto forums are facing a possible shutdown because of it.
EDIT: Damn, a minute too late.
zeebee1 said:
He hasn't actually said anything yet, but the talk section might go down. There was even some talking of taking down the idea section. The ideas, and all the pointless arguments have gotten out of hand.
Sorry for the Necro, but I got an big idea and I wanted to run it past Fosfor and see what he thought.
It originates from the inconsistancy of F!Naruto possessing his vampiric abilities even though he is human. It was stated the Dark Gifts were from his host, not from Naruto himself. So why did he still have them. It was one of the only things that irritated me about Fateless, since I kept seeing an inconsistancy there.
Well, I was rereading the story for the four or fifth time, when it hit me. A perfectly good reason for Naruto to still possess his vampiric powers.
The Heart of Darkness
It was stated that Naruto had possessed the Heart of Darkness for quite a while and had used it's power at least a couple of times. Then when Moebius tried to eradicate him from time itself, it was stated that Naruto used Moebius own power against him to fuel the Heart of Darkness, which is why he was still alive.
But, what if he still had it, but just doesn't realize it yet. The Heart of Darkness would have been semi-saturated by the power of Naruto's vampiric host. And the lingering power of the host that remained within the Heart could have acted as a seed which had allowed Naruto to access his power on a significantly weakened level. With effort, he could use the seed as a template to rebuild his abilities.
As for how the Heart of Darkness remained in Naruto's possession, it would be the same reason Naruto himself still exists. He used Moebius's temporal magicks to fuel it. The Heart, saturated with Temporal magicks, could have easily carried over. But, Naruto doesn't realize he still has the Heart only that for some strange reason his abilities has transferred. After all, he only realized he still had them when tried to assess where he stood in terms of power. He doesn't know he still has the Heart because he has already dismissed it as a possiblity. He wouldn't realize that maybe by being fueled by temporal magicks the Heart might have become immune to the effects of those magics and might have been dragged along with Naruto into the world of the ninja.
It would also give an alternate explaination for the state of Kyuubi. Naruto's wraith-soul might have consumed Kyuubi's soul but the Heart feed on his LIFE. So instead of being just a soulless husk, alive but empty, Kyuubi is very dead, with only the seal maintaining his power by preventing it from escaping.
As for where the Heart is located, maybe it's still in his chest, but beating because it has been jump-started by his body or an ouside force. Much like in Angel, Angel's heart gets jump-started by an electrical attack and it makes him stronger. The same could be applied here. After all, the Hokage said Naruto almost died. Having your heart ripped out and replaced with one that doesn't beat would do it. One defibulator later, you have a beating Heart of Darkness.
Or you can go the mystical route and have it basically grated onto his soul due to the way it was used. After all, I am sure it was never meant to be used that way.
Whue, sorry about the extensive post, but the idea just blackjacked me and I had to get it down before I lost it. So what do you think?
It originates from the inconsistancy of F!Naruto possessing his vampiric abilities even though he is human. It was stated the Dark Gifts were from his host, not from Naruto himself. So why did he still have them. It was one of the only things that irritated me about Fateless, since I kept seeing an inconsistancy there.
Well, I was rereading the story for the four or fifth time, when it hit me. A perfectly good reason for Naruto to still possess his vampiric powers.
The Heart of Darkness
It was stated that Naruto had possessed the Heart of Darkness for quite a while and had used it's power at least a couple of times. Then when Moebius tried to eradicate him from time itself, it was stated that Naruto used Moebius own power against him to fuel the Heart of Darkness, which is why he was still alive.
But, what if he still had it, but just doesn't realize it yet. The Heart of Darkness would have been semi-saturated by the power of Naruto's vampiric host. And the lingering power of the host that remained within the Heart could have acted as a seed which had allowed Naruto to access his power on a significantly weakened level. With effort, he could use the seed as a template to rebuild his abilities.
As for how the Heart of Darkness remained in Naruto's possession, it would be the same reason Naruto himself still exists. He used Moebius's temporal magicks to fuel it. The Heart, saturated with Temporal magicks, could have easily carried over. But, Naruto doesn't realize he still has the Heart only that for some strange reason his abilities has transferred. After all, he only realized he still had them when tried to assess where he stood in terms of power. He doesn't know he still has the Heart because he has already dismissed it as a possiblity. He wouldn't realize that maybe by being fueled by temporal magicks the Heart might have become immune to the effects of those magics and might have been dragged along with Naruto into the world of the ninja.
It would also give an alternate explaination for the state of Kyuubi. Naruto's wraith-soul might have consumed Kyuubi's soul but the Heart feed on his LIFE. So instead of being just a soulless husk, alive but empty, Kyuubi is very dead, with only the seal maintaining his power by preventing it from escaping.
As for where the Heart is located, maybe it's still in his chest, but beating because it has been jump-started by his body or an ouside force. Much like in Angel, Angel's heart gets jump-started by an electrical attack and it makes him stronger. The same could be applied here. After all, the Hokage said Naruto almost died. Having your heart ripped out and replaced with one that doesn't beat would do it. One defibulator later, you have a beating Heart of Darkness.
Or you can go the mystical route and have it basically grated onto his soul due to the way it was used. After all, I am sure it was never meant to be used that way.
Whue, sorry about the extensive post, but the idea just blackjacked me and I had to get it down before I lost it. So what do you think?
Mindpron's idea seems plausible.
I'm not sure how it fits with LoK canon, especially with what Defiance revealed about Janos' heart. My thoughts on that would go thusly: given that Moebius erased Naruto from the LoK timeline, the original Heart can still end up where it needs to be, even if Naruto has a version of it that exists outside of LoK's space-time continuum.
Canon is raped and yet unviolated. Ain't temporal mechanics great? ^_^
I'm not sure how it fits with LoK canon, especially with what Defiance revealed about Janos' heart. My thoughts on that would go thusly: given that Moebius erased Naruto from the LoK timeline, the original Heart can still end up where it needs to be, even if Naruto has a version of it that exists outside of LoK's space-time continuum.
Canon is raped and yet unviolated. Ain't temporal mechanics great? ^_^
Not a necro asking a REAL question -_- ...Now it was already said that at some point Naruto will be getting the Samehada. So if Naruto can make a blood sucking Vampire tree shouldn't he be able to do the same thing with the Samehada sense it already suck up chakra and is also supossed to be alive? :hmm:
In which case he could use his Blood jutsus and Blood Seals with the Samehada without having to worry about breaking it, what with seal working better with living things.
Just wondering but is the dinner scene with the Kazekage and Temari what your having problems with? That seems like it would be a pain in the ass to get right. :headbanger:
In which case he could use his Blood jutsus and Blood Seals with the Samehada without having to worry about breaking it, what with seal working better with living things.
Just wondering but is the dinner scene with the Kazekage and Temari what your having problems with? That seems like it would be a pain in the ass to get right. :headbanger:
Belgarion213 said:
I think Sakura made the vampire tree and it was a complete accident. I'm not sure if its possible to replicate it, s I think at one point Fosfor said Sakura's bond with the tree would be classified as a bloodline limit.
Just because it was a accident doesn't mean it can't be done again.
Belgarion213 said:
I think Sakura made the vampire tree and it was a complete accident. I'm not sure if its possible to replicate it, s I think at one point Fosfor said Sakura's bond with the tree would be classified as a bloodline limit.
Plus, I don't think even Ino or Naruto had any idea exactly what they did to make the vampiric sakura tree. Here's the quote from the story itself:
Even though the accident that created the tree might be possible to duplicate, there are simple too many factors involved in its creation for it to be easily feasible. Plus, Naruto and Ino revived the tree as sort of an off-hand hobby instead of an active experiment, so I doubt they have each and every step recorded down. Heck, even if the whole thing was recorded, there are still too many random factors that could potentially mess up an attempt to duplicate the process.
"That and a shitload of other stuff. Alchemy, seals... hell, even herbs. The tree was practically gone. We had to MAKE it grow and heal, it wouldn't be able to do it on it's own then." She said thoughtfully.
"Shit... We didn't understand just WHAT worked in the first place. We still don't. We used anything and everything we could think of, no matter how stupid it seemed... Total mix and match." She trailed off.
"Shit... We didn't understand just WHAT worked in the first place. We still don't. We used anything and everything we could think of, no matter how stupid it seemed... Total mix and match." She trailed off.
I'm not talking about making the Samehada like Sakura's tree only the part having to do with taking in and storing Blood. Its pretty much fact that Samehada is alive(I have no idea how aware it is) and its been stated many times that living things can have seals applied them easier then say a non-living metal sword. :sisi:*hint*hint*
Lanceavalon said:
zeebee1 said:
Unless naruto gets his hand on it I doubt it matters. And it doesn't seem to be the type of blade he's looking for.