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Well, the premise was pretty hilarious, but personally what killed it for me was the Mamoru bashing. It was unnecessary, and frankly, predictable and dull. It added a layer of vicious that basically undermined the lighthearted shenanigans. There are angles that could have been a whole lot funnier.
I always felt like Mamoru, as the Reincarnation of Prince Endymion, was in love with Usagi, Reincarnation of Princess Serenity. At the same time, the sour, solitary Chiba Mamoru really hates putting up with Usako's immature bullshit.
So yeah. Mamoru pulling a total Karma Houdini and escaping his True Love Destiny to, I don't know, graduate from medical school as was his childhood dream, that would be fucking hilarious, too.
Especially if he interns with Doctor Tofu.
I always felt like Mamoru, as the Reincarnation of Prince Endymion, was in love with Usagi, Reincarnation of Princess Serenity. At the same time, the sour, solitary Chiba Mamoru really hates putting up with Usako's immature bullshit.
So yeah. Mamoru pulling a total Karma Houdini and escaping his True Love Destiny to, I don't know, graduate from medical school as was his childhood dream, that would be fucking hilarious, too.
Especially if he interns with Doctor Tofu.
I really cannot view his situation as funny.
About the only thing I ever felt bad for him about in anime canon.
I have no issue with reincarnation, but when it overrides existing relationships to go after someone just because they were together in a past life... I view that reincarnated soul bond/mate thing as little more than enslavement and/or perosnality death.
In the anime at least... neither Usagi nor him had shown any remote inkling of even liking each other before the reincarnation thing came into play.
About the only thing I ever felt bad for him about in anime canon.
I have no issue with reincarnation, but when it overrides existing relationships to go after someone just because they were together in a past life... I view that reincarnated soul bond/mate thing as little more than enslavement and/or perosnality death.
In the anime at least... neither Usagi nor him had shown any remote inkling of even liking each other before the reincarnation thing came into play.
Exactly! Exactly.
It's like, Usagi was in love with the idea of being destined lovers, not Mamoru himself, and Mamoru had a humongous responsibility complex.
Sometimes I wonder if the reason why Mamoru got seduced by the Evil Whatever so many times was because he secretly hates his girlfriend. I think a fanfiction where that's the case, and Mamoru successfully fobs her off on somebody else, like some kind of romantical hot potato, that's comedy.
It's like, Usagi was in love with the idea of being destined lovers, not Mamoru himself, and Mamoru had a humongous responsibility complex.
Sometimes I wonder if the reason why Mamoru got seduced by the Evil Whatever so many times was because he secretly hates his girlfriend. I think a fanfiction where that's the case, and Mamoru successfully fobs her off on somebody else, like some kind of romantical hot potato, that's comedy.
This whole thread has me thinking about people's expectations and limits when it comes to comedy; the point at which schedenfraude is overwhelmed by pity and a gags cease to be funny because you sympathize with the victim too much.
I believe it's called "empathy"... it's an emotion I don't possess, but really, the entire Guardian series has been like one long running experiment in the subject of how sick things can get before people stop having fun.
I know this is only tangentially related to the main topic, but bear with me.
Over the course of my writings, I have begun a sort of crude outline detailing the fanfiction morality curve: a ranked list of circumstances in which one becomes too discomfitted by the character or circumstances involved to enjoy whatever's happening to them. It's quite instructive.
Ranked from least offensive to most, I have:
Attractive woman raping a guy < Hero killing enemies without remorse or angst < "Heroes" stop being nearly-spotless pillars of virtue and become significantly corrupt < A man being threatened with a video of his own traitorous sons' murder < Killing puppies/kittens/cute baby animals < Characters having their memories/feelings forcibly altered < Cannibalism < Anything bad happening to Hotaru Tomoe < Favored main character dies
By no means is this list near complete, but I think it's fascinating to see comedy test the limits of people's moral sensibilities. As well as to see what kinds of things bother people and what people tend to laugh off.
For example, I have had nothing but compliments every time I write a chapter where Mamoru Chiba gets shot for no good reason. I mean, even Junko forcing herself on Ranma got ONE complaint, but nobody seems to see anything wrong with Tuxedo Mask arbitrarily and randomly eating lead over and over. It boggles my mind; you'd think it would have at least worn thin by now, if nothing else.
I believe it's called "empathy"... it's an emotion I don't possess, but really, the entire Guardian series has been like one long running experiment in the subject of how sick things can get before people stop having fun.
I know this is only tangentially related to the main topic, but bear with me.
Over the course of my writings, I have begun a sort of crude outline detailing the fanfiction morality curve: a ranked list of circumstances in which one becomes too discomfitted by the character or circumstances involved to enjoy whatever's happening to them. It's quite instructive.
Ranked from least offensive to most, I have:
Attractive woman raping a guy < Hero killing enemies without remorse or angst < "Heroes" stop being nearly-spotless pillars of virtue and become significantly corrupt < A man being threatened with a video of his own traitorous sons' murder < Killing puppies/kittens/cute baby animals < Characters having their memories/feelings forcibly altered < Cannibalism < Anything bad happening to Hotaru Tomoe < Favored main character dies
By no means is this list near complete, but I think it's fascinating to see comedy test the limits of people's moral sensibilities. As well as to see what kinds of things bother people and what people tend to laugh off.
For example, I have had nothing but compliments every time I write a chapter where Mamoru Chiba gets shot for no good reason. I mean, even Junko forcing herself on Ranma got ONE complaint, but nobody seems to see anything wrong with Tuxedo Mask arbitrarily and randomly eating lead over and over. It boggles my mind; you'd think it would have at least worn thin by now, if nothing else.
3)Attractive woman raping a guy
6)Hero killing enemies without remorse or angst
8)"Heroes" stop being nearly-spotless pillars of virtue and become significantly corrupt
5)A man being threatened with a video of his own traitorous sons' murder
4)Killing puppies/kittens/cute baby animals
2)Characters having their memories/feelings forcibly altered
1)Cannibalism
1,000,000,000,000,000,000)Anything bad happening to Hotaru Tomoe
7)Favored main character dies
I would rework that. It goes from most affront to least.
Now this does all depend on the circumstances and whether or not it makes since in the story or not. But other then having 3 being ok to everyone else none of them are deal-breakers IMO. They might lower my view of the work, but I would probably still read it if it was well written, and not popping up every few sentences.
6)Hero killing enemies without remorse or angst
8)"Heroes" stop being nearly-spotless pillars of virtue and become significantly corrupt
5)A man being threatened with a video of his own traitorous sons' murder
4)Killing puppies/kittens/cute baby animals
2)Characters having their memories/feelings forcibly altered
1)Cannibalism
1,000,000,000,000,000,000)Anything bad happening to Hotaru Tomoe
7)Favored main character dies
I would rework that. It goes from most affront to least.
Now this does all depend on the circumstances and whether or not it makes since in the story or not. But other then having 3 being ok to everyone else none of them are deal-breakers IMO. They might lower my view of the work, but I would probably still read it if it was well written, and not popping up every few sentences.
I'm not speaking of it in terms of "dealbreakers", although I've had my fair share of reviews that said "Event X has just gone too far, I can't enjoy this any more".
But as a humorist, one of my main tools is subverting certain values to shock and amuse, and it fascinates me to see where different people draw the line between funny and "vicious".
Although I must confess your numbering confuses me. Are the lower numbers the most offensive or the least? Because one method suggests that cannibalism is pretty much okay, while the other suggests that you really want something bad to happen to Hotaru.
But as a humorist, one of my main tools is subverting certain values to shock and amuse, and it fascinates me to see where different people draw the line between funny and "vicious".
Although I must confess your numbering confuses me. Are the lower numbers the most offensive or the least? Because one method suggests that cannibalism is pretty much okay, while the other suggests that you really want something bad to happen to Hotaru.
Kicking Hotaru, in fanfiction, is kind of like punting puppies and kittens in front of a kindergarten class- it can be funny under the right conditions, but most of the time it's an "Oh My God, what was that for?" event. She has so much wrong with her already, the way people write her; not sure how much is really true, since I haven't gone through and actually read the SM manga.
I can only say for the anime.
Possession within the series and weak constitution are both entirely true.
Her mother dead or missing, entirely true.
Her father working for Mistress 9/pharoh 90... also entirely true.
Obsession with lights and the color purple, entirely true.
A oddly dark and oversized bedroom needing an insane number of lights to get it even remotely lit, entirely true (I once had a discussion with KaosQu on the old Anifics forum discussing this topic, and had posted a image of the bedroom and the huge number of lit light bulbs, and it was still dark in there, counted I think it was some 16 bulbs, from multiple sources).
Most of the rest is fanon.
Possession within the series and weak constitution are both entirely true.
Her mother dead or missing, entirely true.
Her father working for Mistress 9/pharoh 90... also entirely true.
Obsession with lights and the color purple, entirely true.
A oddly dark and oversized bedroom needing an insane number of lights to get it even remotely lit, entirely true (I once had a discussion with KaosQu on the old Anifics forum discussing this topic, and had posted a image of the bedroom and the huge number of lit light bulbs, and it was still dark in there, counted I think it was some 16 bulbs, from multiple sources).
Most of the rest is fanon.
While I realize you specifically state it is a joke...
Considering the year, and style of bulbs... of those that could be made out, and the style of fixture, of those that cannot... I'm doubtful that is what it is, and considering that while my room is smaller than hers, I am able to get by on 2 to 3 centrally located bulbs in cieling, something is very wrong with that room to not be half as bright with 16+ bulbs/lights scattered across 3 walls, her bedside, and cieling...
Considering the year, and style of bulbs... of those that could be made out, and the style of fixture, of those that cannot... I'm doubtful that is what it is, and considering that while my room is smaller than hers, I am able to get by on 2 to 3 centrally located bulbs in cieling, something is very wrong with that room to not be half as bright with 16+ bulbs/lights scattered across 3 walls, her bedside, and cieling...
Lower numbers are more offensive to me.
And yes I kind of do want something to happen to Hotaru. I mean even Kasumi has bad stuff happen to her every once and a while yet I have never seen one well written fic that had Hotaru being hurt. The closest that I have seen is Hotaru being bullied for like two seconds before someone jumps in.
And yes I kind of do want something to happen to Hotaru. I mean even Kasumi has bad stuff happen to her every once and a while yet I have never seen one well written fic that had Hotaru being hurt. The closest that I have seen is Hotaru being bullied for like two seconds before someone jumps in.
Hotaru has been hurt in Fanfiction before...
R-SM 'A Rended Breath of Life' by NighthawkTM - [Dld Date=04/19/2003] - [Dld Size=41kb] - [Dld Files=2] - [Status=Inactive]
Note for anyone going to hunt that down, it is adult level material, not due to sex, but graphic content.
R-SM 'A Rended Breath of Life' by NighthawkTM - [Dld Date=04/19/2003] - [Dld Size=41kb] - [Dld Files=2] - [Status=Inactive]
- Link withheld
Note for anyone going to hunt that down, it is adult level material, not due to sex, but graphic content.
Manga Hotaru's better off. She's a Goddamn Undead Cyborg. I am seriously not joking. An actual undead Cyborg. It reminds me of this Sailor Moon Ranma Cross actually, only in that one, buy some author I've never actually heard of, much less spoken to, Usagi was the Cyborg, and Hotaru was a Sith.
He certainly didn't Bribe Me to Shamelessly Plug his Fic. Which is Called Guardian.
He certainly didn't Bribe Me to Shamelessly Plug his Fic. Which is Called Guardian.