Harry Potter [Harry Potter]Miscellaneous ideas topic.

Luthorne

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I've been fiddling around with an idea that's basically...what if Harry...was not only intelligent...but criminally inclined? What if, at an early age, he took up shoplifting as a form of rebellion, and after some ingenuity, learned to fiddle around with various devices, creating various contraptions that could aid him in his crimes? Little grabbers up his sleeve, perhaps, to snag candy and pull it up some loose, baggy sleeves...hey, getting Dudley's old clothes can't be all bad.

I've considered having him make friends with the owner of a junkyard who's a retired petty thief himself, where he gets access to the stuff he fiddles around with. Learns how to make excellent disguises making use of dyes, improvised wigs, malleable substances that alter the shape of his face and/or body...

Once he reaches Hogwarts, of course, he finds that, to his horror, the electronic stuff doesn't work...but the purely mechanical does. Developing a personal code of ethics that's rather loose on some bits, but strict on others... "What harm does robbing banks do? Let me tell you what good it does! The money goes back into circulation! The newspapers have something to print! The law enforcement gets some exercise! And, in the end, the insurance pays it all back anyways..."

That's right. What if Harry Potter...took after Jim DiGriz, aka, the Stainless Steel Rat?

Thoughts? :mellow:
 

semil

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Thoughts?

Just that robbing banks is troublesome unless you're going for some specific thing that's in the vault. Like heirloom jewelery, bonds, antiques, etc. Whole lot of security and attention on banks.

Steal from people's houses. Less outright cash, but much safter. Unless you're a paranoid billionaire your security won't touch a bank's. Why steal from Gringotts when you can just mug the people going in and out of Gringotts? Hell, the goblins are selfish enough that if you protected your identity (to prevent future double-crosses) they might completely ignore your muggings in favor of getting some of the money back.
 

Nebkreb

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Random idea I had

What if the Church (more on this later) knew about the prophecy, took Harry and trained him? Went to Hoggy Hoggy Hogwarts during wht would have been his 7th year?
I picture him as like a cross between Van Hellsing and Hellboy

I have this great image of him walking in to the Great Hall.
He stops and says "On order of his Holiness, etc etc, you, severus Snape are to be terminated." Shoots Snape with an enchanted revolver.

In the story, he doesn't serve the Christian Church. Wizardry had long abandoned all other organized religions in order to 'serve' the One True God, who Harry is an assassin for. This is mainly to avoid any annoying religion-centered reviews
 

semil

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Sadly, both canon and the vast majority of fanfics have shown that anything the Wizarding World tries to do they inevitably make stupid. Having a Wizarding religion would invariably degenerate into sychophantism.

Perhaps a better solution would be that instead of having a wizarding religion, or having a Church (whichever one you want) aware of the wizarding world, Harry is taken in by just one clergyman who knows of magic (might be a squib, or have a magical relative) who also has enough influence in various places to hide, secure, train, and equip Harry.
 

SoftRogue

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Nebkreb said:
Random idea I had

What if the Church (more on this later) knew about the prophecy, took Harry and trained him? Went to Hoggy Hoggy Hogwarts during wht would have been his 7th year?
I picture him as like a cross between Van Hellsing and Hellboy

I have this great image of him walking in to the Great Hall.
He stops and says "On order of his Holiness, etc etc, you, severus Snape are to be terminated." Shoots Snape with an enchanted revolver.

In the story, he doesn't serve the Christian Church. Wizardry had long abandoned all other organized religions in order to 'serve' the One True God, who Harry is an assassin for. This is mainly to avoid any annoying religion-centered reviews
Actually, I had an idea that never got off the ground that had Harry end up being left at a Catholic orphanage by the Dursleys several days after he was left on the doorstep of #4. Because of his Accidental Magic; people in the Catholic church take notice of him and Harry ends up being raised at Ferdinant Lukes; and orphanage near Rome, Italy.

Where did that particular orphanage come from and why is it important? Well; Harry ends up idolizing one of the Fathers that work there.

In fact, when Harry grows up, he wants to follow in the Father's footsteps and be just like his idol...Father Alexander Anderson.

Iscariot!Harry FTW!!!
 
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A lunatic Catholic priest from Hellsing. In his dayjob working at an Irish orphanage, he comes across as a good-natured kinda guy.

But, in his main job, as an enforcer for Father Church, he's a ruthless psychopath, eager to thrust his blessed bayonets into monster and non-Catholic alike.
 

Nebkreb

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New idea:

Basically, Harry is taken by Unspeakables as a baby. And they raise him to become the ultimate warrior and destroy Voldemort.
The thing that kept me up last night is that he is essentially bio-engineered.
- Has Troll tendons grafted on to his muscles
- Ears and Nose are somehow taken from werewolf
- Given vampire's ability to move soundlessly
- For lemony possibilities, give him Veela allure
- Is intentionally given a dosage of Basilisk venom and phoenix tears in to his blood, along with any other magical animal parts, which make him a wand --> wandless magic comes very easy to him
- etc etc etc

He becomes the ultimate fighting machine.
I thought waht could happen is, each time at Hogwarts something happens, Dumbledore calls the Unspeakables.
- Stops Quirrel in first year
- Save Gin Gin in 2nd year
- Captures Pettigrew, frees Sirius in 3rd year
- Saves Cedric, who had been taken for voldie's resurrection. Voldie gets away (4th year)
- Stops prophecy from being taken in 5th year
- Save Dumbles from trying on ring, again in astronomy tower in sixth year.
- You can either have him beat Voldemort in 6th year, or 7th.

I have this vision of Harry is in front of the army outside Hogwarts, looking down on an evacuated Hogsmeade, where Voldemort's forces gather.
Everything is tense; then a goblin wobbles over to Harry.
"Snaphook, how much would it cost to entirely rebuild Hogsmeade?"
"just over a million galleons Agent Potter."
"Transfer said amount to Madam Rosmerta from my personal account. She is in charge of rebuilding Hogsmeade."
Everyone is confused before the goblin nods and leaves. Harry opens his palms and a brilliant ball of white light appears, growing steadily larger. It's obvious how powerful it is.
Harry smirks and throws it high in the sky. He turns and walks back towards the army, his face cold. Afer a few steps, the ball streaks down to the center of Hogsmeade.
Tremendous explosion, obliterates all of Hogsmeade. Voldemort is destroyed.

(the scene was inspired by the tank scene in the new Ironman. He shoots a missile at it. Turns and walks away as it blows up.)
 

darksage11

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New Idea:

Basically, during the rebirth part in the 4th book, the potion that is used in the ritual Voldemort gets his body back, but it's not the body he wanted for starters the body is female.

How this happens is up the writer.
One idea is that magic most have balance, Ex:bone,flesh, and blood used in the potion ritual is all form the male species, to have balance the potion made sure that voldemort got a female body.
(This is not a Slash fic idea)

Harry and Voldemort do not fall in love or any of that lovely dovey carp. :angel:
 

Prince Charon

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Due to someone else's potion exploding, Hermione has a potions accident, causing her potion to go bang, as well. Unfortunately, Hermione's potion was at a critical stage, and the accident had the unlikely result of turning the debris from the explosion to become a hymen-dissolving potion, some of which splashed onto a Slytherin girl (one of the cute ones) at another table.

Since Hermione's potion caused the girl to lose her hymen, Hermione is considered to have taken her virginity, and thus must marry her (or take her as a consort/concubine/whatever), or be sent to Azkaban, for rape. Naturally, Hermione would point out that it was an accident, and that that's an insane law, anyway. She is then told that the fact that it was an accident is the reason she's being given a choice, and that she shouldn't insult the 'wise' and ancient laws of the (British) Wizarding World.

Of course, it might not have been an accident. Maybe the potion was sabotaged to get that result (possibly by the girl who got splashed). Maybe the saboteur was targeting Harry's cauldron, and missed, or maybe Hermione was the target all along.

Optionally, it splashes on more than one girl.

Optionally, only a married woman (married to a guy, that is) can take another woman as consort/concubine/whatever, so she has to get married right away, as well.

Of course, it could be Harry's cauldron that goes off, if you prefer.
 

sith2886

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deep in the DoM there are many strange and slightly dangerous items that none should ever lay a hand on. yet despite these many items there is a simple horn. after many tests and scans the unspeakables, even to this day, are unsure what the object is or what it does, for they have never blown it.

But, whether by chance or fate, before the first in what would become known as the second war of the snake, this horn sounded through out the building, and across the world as those who were forgotten felt the ancient sound.

ron weasley had blown the Horn of Valere. and forever altered the course of wizarding and muggle history. at least...in this age any way
 
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I would like to note that, in my mind, both of these work best with a Manipulative!Dumbledore. Personally, considering how badly he has helped to screw up Harry's life, it is better that he be actively cruel rather than naive and careless. Besides, I feel it makes for better conflict than Grandfather!Dumbledore.

As I have pondered before, what if Ron Weasley had been Sorted into Slytherin? How would his 'All Slytherins are Evil' attitude cope with the fact that he himself is now one of them? How would Harry and Hermione's lives be different?

For the false-BWL people, Twin (believed to be the BWL, even by Dumbledore) is sent to the Dursleys and goes into Slytherin. Harry is raised in an orphanage and goes to Gryffindor. The fallout, I think, would be hilarious.
 
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This idea was inspired by an Iron Maiden song about Operation Overlord.

During the 5th year, Snape presses his Mind Probe a bit too hard, and Harry's mind is knocked loose of its' temporal moorings, and goes back to the Second World War.

The background is, the Wizarding World joined in with the Muggles during WWII, and that wizards and witches were interspersed amongst the Muggle soldiers.

In line with that, Harry ends up a silent witness to his past self, who was on the British (or Canadian) landing beaches of D-Day.

The story would be both about a more concrete idea for "The-Power-Tom-Knows-Not", and the attempts to get Harry's head back together again.
 

MHahn1976

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Had a weird thought last night - what if Quirrel, instead of acting like a teacher afraid of his subject, instead used his possision as a teacher to start the young and impressonable witches and wizards down the path to the Dark Arts.

Might be a unique way to start off a Dark Harry.
 

Laniac67

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MHahn1976 said:
Had a weird thought last night - what if Quirrel, instead of acting like a teacher afraid of his subject, instead used his possision as a teacher to start the young and impressonable witches and wizards down the path to the Dark Arts.

Might be a unique way to start off a Dark Harry.
It's been done. Dark Lord Potter by pureb99 on ff.net.
 

Prince Charon

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Laniac67 said:
MHahn1976 said:
Had a weird thought last night - what if Quirrel, instead of acting like a teacher afraid of his subject, instead used his possision as a teacher to start the young and impressonable witches and wizards down the path to the Dark Arts.

Might be a unique way to start off a Dark Harry.
It's been done. Dark Lord Potter by pureb99 on ff.net.
Dark Lord's Blessing is a bit like that, as well. I think you might have to join the pottersplace3 Yahoo!Group, in order to see the files, though.
 
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Prince Charon said:
Laniac67 said:
MHahn1976 said:
Had a weird thought last night - what if Quirrel, instead of acting like a teacher afraid of his subject, instead used his possision as a teacher to start the young and impressonable witches and wizards down the path to the Dark Arts.

Might be a unique way to start off a Dark Harry.
It's been done. Dark Lord Potter by pureb99 on ff.net.
Dark Lord's Blessing is a bit like that, as well. I think you might have to join the pottersplace3 Yahoo!Group, in order to see the files, though.
It's been a long while since I read that one. I first read it on FF.Net, but now I can't find it there... Which is quite a bummer because I really like that one.
 

SotF

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mandalorianjedi said:
Prince Charon said:
Laniac67 said:
MHahn1976 said:
Had a weird thought last night - what if Quirrel, instead of acting like a teacher afraid of his subject, instead used his possision as a teacher to start the young and impressonable witches and wizards down the path to the Dark Arts.

Might be a unique way to start off a Dark Harry.
It's been done. Dark Lord Potter by pureb99 on ff.net.
Dark Lord's Blessing is a bit like that, as well. I think you might have to join the pottersplace3 Yahoo!Group, in order to see the files, though.
It's been a long while since I read that one. I first read it on FF.Net, but now I can't find it there... Which is quite a bummer because I really like that one.
That's one that I wish had been continued, it had so many interesting ideas mixed into it that worked well togather
 

Prince Charon

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SotF said:
mandalorianjedi said:
Prince Charon said:
Laniac67 said:
MHahn1976 said:
Had a weird thought last night - what if Quirrel, instead of acting like a teacher afraid of his subject, instead used his possision as a teacher to start the young and impressonable witches and wizards down the path to the Dark Arts.

Might be a unique way to start off a Dark Harry.
It's been done. Dark Lord Potter by pureb99 on ff.net.
Dark Lord's Blessing is a bit like that, as well. I think you might have to join the pottersplace3 Yahoo!Group, in order to see the files, though.
It's been a long while since I read that one. I first read it on FF.Net, but now I can't find it there... Which is quite a bummer because I really like that one.
That's one that I wish had been continued, it had so many interesting ideas mixed into it that worked well togather
Well, it hasn't been abandoned, it just hasn't been updated in a very long time.
 
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Prince Charon said:
SotF said:
mandalorianjedi said:
Prince Charon said:
Laniac67 said:
MHahn1976 said:
Had a weird thought last night - what if Quirrel, instead of acting like a teacher afraid of his subject, instead used his possision as a teacher to start the young and impressonable witches and wizards down the path to the Dark Arts.

Might be a unique way to start off a Dark Harry.
It's been done. Dark Lord Potter by pureb99 on ff.net.
Dark Lord's Blessing is a bit like that, as well. I think you might have to join the pottersplace3 Yahoo!Group, in order to see the files, though.
It's been a long while since I read that one. I first read it on FF.Net, but now I can't find it there... Which is quite a bummer because I really like that one.
That's one that I wish had been continued, it had so many interesting ideas mixed into it that worked well togather
Well, it hasn't been abandoned, it just hasn't been updated in a very long time.
As much as I'd like to complain about that, I don't have room to talk. Still, it was great to re-read what he does have. I've always been rather fond of this fic.
 

sith2886

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Prince Charon said:
What if Jiraiya (from Naruto) were headmaster of Hogwarts, starting in Harry's First Year? Lets say that Dumbledore choked to death on a sherbet lemon, or was killed in a suicide attack by Barty Crouch, Junior, or something. This Jiraiya knows about Potterverse magic (which we'll say is chakra by another name, with a different method of control) speaks English, et cetra. What would Harry's years at Hogwarts be like with the Legendary Pervert in charge?
got one better

what if Jiraiya was reincarnated...as Neville Longbottom and trevor wasn't a pet, he was a summon? :snigger:
 

Prince Charon

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sith2886 said:
Prince Charon said:
What if Jiraiya (from Naruto) were headmaster of Hogwarts, starting in Harry's First Year?? Lets say that Dumbledore choked to death on a sherbet lemon, or was killed in a suicide attack by Barty Crouch, Junior, or something.? This Jiraiya knows about Potterverse magic (which we'll say is chakra by another name, with a different method of control) speaks English, et cetra.? What would Harry's years at Hogwarts be like with the Legendary Pervert in charge?
got one better

what if Jiraiya was reincarnated...as Neville Longbottom and trevor wasn't a pet, he was a summon? :snigger:
I'd like to see that done. With the right author, it would be truly epic!
 

Ryuujinn

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I figure I might as well put in my two cents here, so here goes.

So, Harry's the Boy-Who-Lived, dropped off on the Dursleys' doorstep that night, blah blah blah. Only, Petunia doesn't find him the next morning. Maybe someone took him themselves, maybe accidental magic sent him to someplace safe ('cause seriously, leaving a baby on a doorstep, on a cold October/November night, with only PJs and a baby blanket? WTF, man? WTF?).

Anyway, so however it happens, Harry winds up in the care of someone that Dumbledore most likely wouldn't approve of. For this, I was thinking perhaps Carmen Sandiego? Or perhaps Lupin the Third? Or maybe Emma Frost? (I considered listing Mystique here, but I already found a fic by that premise. Though I certainly wouldn't mind if it was updated soon....)

Anyways, I think that a Harry raised to believe that laws and rules were made to be bent, if not broken, would be an interesting idea, if someone wants to take this and expand upon it.
 

Nebkreb

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mind throwing a link to that Mystique story?
 
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