Harry Potter [Harry Potter]Miscellaneous ideas topic.

AoMythology

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Something I've mentioned in passing a couple of times on the Discord but don't think I've mentioned here:

Dark Lord Ron.

Now, in my mind, there's two ways this could be gone about. One is for a serious take on it, with an actually competent Ron secretly plotting and building up his own personal magical abilities, and building up a power base over time, before launching Wizarding Britain into another war to establish it as his fiefdom.

The second option is a more comedic take on it, where Ron gets so absolutely smashed that he wakes up the next morning, only to find out he managed to conquer all of Wizarding Britain the night before as a new Dark Lord and quickly has to figure out what he hell he was doing while drunk.
About the second take: Where is Seamus, why is Dean missing a finger and why is there a tiger in Ron's room/dorm/flat?!
 
Dark Lord Ron is hardly a new concept and one various people have played with over the years. Even I've taken a stab at it. Still, your concepts are better than most. Most versions of Evil Ron are just plain dumb and used as excuses to bash the character, so it's nice to see some thought going into your idea. Hell, most examples of the "Ron the Death Eater" Trope in general are horrible.

The only problem with the second one is that you have to be able to write comedy. It's not something every fanfic author can do. Some authors like Rorschach's Blot, dogbertcarroll and john1137 can manage it just fine with and without dipping into crack!fic territory. Other authors, like myself, cannot. It's easy to inject humor into a story, but full on comedy is a whole other beast.

Rorschach's Blot did something similar in the vein of your drunken badass idea several years ago, involving both Harry and Ron. I can't recall all the specifics at the moment, but I remember something about streaking in the Ministry and Ron getting a tattoo on his ass.
 

seitora

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I actually don't know that I've seen Dark Lord Ron. Maybe once or twice as a quick throwaway joke, but that's been about it.

Death Eater Ron or just plain jerkass evil Ron, though? Countless times.
 

DIT_grue

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Dark Lord Ron.

Now, in my mind, there's two ways this could be gone about. One is for a serious take on it, with an actually competent Ron secretly plotting and building up his own personal magical abilities, and building up a power base over time, before launching Wizarding Britain into another war to establish it as his fiefdom.
Alternately, Red and Gold is indisputably a serious take on Dark Lord Ron but in its six hundred words is much more concerned with motive than means. (Thanks for the excuse to reread it again.)
 
I actually don't know that I've seen Dark Lord Ron. Maybe once or twice as a quick throwaway joke, but that's been about it.

Death Eater Ron or just plain jerkass evil Ron, though? Countless times.
It was a semi-popular concept about 12 years ago. It wasn't a fad that lasted long though. Like I said, even I experimented with the concept. Most weren't all that good. And, as you said, some were little more than throwaway jokes.
 
Looks like the last idea I had (the four Blacks) got mixed results.

To the detractors, was anything about it salvageable? For the one who approved, what was it that worked?
 

AoMythology

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Looks like the last idea I had (the four Blacks) got mixed results.

To the detractors, was anything about it salvageable? For the one who approved, what was it that worked?
I liked the characterization of the Blacks as 'family first' and the Narcissa parts.

I didn't like the fact it was so wildly AU and that Harry has been replaced so thoroughly.
 
Looks like the last idea I had (the four Blacks) got mixed results.

To the detractors, was anything about it salvageable? For the one who approved, what was it that worked?
No. It's nothing but a cast of crappy OC's and at that point, it's not fanfiction it's derivative fiction, and you might as well write an original story with a similar setting. Pretending it's a "Harry Potter" story is just a cheap way to get attention.
 
Fair enough to all of that. I'm not going to pretend it was the best idea in the world or be hurt. Not every idea can be good.
 
Got just a skeleton of an idea here ...

Some time in the fall of 1997 (DH) Harry/Ron/Hermione are hiding in Grimmauld Place -- author-fiat reason of some kind that lets them stay there, haven't figured that out -- when it's not Remus Lupin who comes to #12 but Nymphadora (Tonks) Lupin instead. The stress of the war and worrying about her father (he's disappeared, possibly dead) has caused her to miscarry. Remus takes this as the excuse to leave.

Anyway, so, Tonks is at #12, she's the only member of the Order that H/R/H are in immediate contact with, Ron and Hermione convince Harry somehow to let Tonks in on the secret of the Horcruxes. They get the Locket out of the Ministry with her help, and maybe being a Metamorphmagus means she's some kind of help getting the Cup out of Bellatrix's Gringotts vault. Not sure about the Diadem in Hogwarts, but maybe there too. Harry and Nym get close, eventually they have some kind of relationship in this story once Lord Voldemort is dead.

Probably 10,000% cliché as fuck, but I don't give a damn.
 
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An idea/question. What if, when Regulus Black realized that LV had created a Horcrux, he knew about LV giving Bellatrix and Lucius each something else to hide? I think that if Regulus had played Bella right, he might have convinced her to leave the Cup at #12, maybe by telling her something like "Only the Blacks are pure enough, loyal enough, and worthy enough to secure the Dark Lord's treasure, Bellatrix. Nothing so important can be held by goblin filth." I could easily see that working. It or something else may have worked on Narcissa as well.

So, basically, what if, after LV's fall in Halloween 1981, #12GP is now the location of *three* of LV's Horcruxes?
 

seitora

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Idiot idea of mine from the Discord: Instead of trying to hide from Voldemort by using the Secret Keeper mechanism, James and Lily should have just moved to Cornwall

Nobody wants to go to Cornwall. Definitely not Voldemort. Not even his lackeys want to go to Cornwall. Anybody who tries to go will instantly be repulsed and get the heck out of there. It's the perfect hiding spot for James and Lily.

(I really have no idea why Cornwall has that reputation, but apparently it does. Funnily enough, even the Cornwall in Canada has a pretty terrible reputation)
 
Speaking as a non-Brit, what's so bad about Cornwall?
 

AoMythology

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TBH I can't bring myself to be interested in it. I don't mean for that to be a slight against it though; the premise could work. Perhaps.

The title is a bit off though, least as far as I understand. I think the line Aizen said was "Admiration is the feeling furthest from understanding" or closer to that, and those left-out words are important. But I don't read Japanese, for all I know the English line might be really screwed up compared to what he really said in the original manga.
 

AoMythology

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TBH I can't bring myself to be interested in it. I don't mean for that to be a slight against it though; the premise could work. Perhaps.

The title is a bit off though, least as far as I understand. I think the line Aizen said was "Admiration is the feeling furthest from understanding" or closer to that, and those left-out words are important. But I don't read Japanese, for all I know the English line might be really screwed up compared to what he really said in the original manga.
Well, it's meant to be a one-shot; I don't intend to continue it, so whether it works as a full story or not is irrelevant. :p

As for the original line Aizen uttered, I'm not sure. It's been a while since I touched Bleach.
 
Here's a story idea although it's not a nice one at all...

In early 1978 Peter Pettigrew manages to get James and Lily to drink Amortentia keyed to each other somehow, and it takes. in this AU James isn't one of the bad guys, but he's not really a good guy either, and neither is Sirius Black. while not DE's in the making, neither would really consider marrying a Muggleborn. anyway, James and Lily marry while under the influence of Amortentia, and somehow Pettigrew manages to keep them under for more than a year.

Just before the beginning of 1980 it's revealed that Lily is pregnant; Pettigrew knows he has to stop dosing the two now, especially Lily. anyway, Lily is not at all happy and neither is James. James, however, does about the worst thing he could: disinherits the child-to-be and casts Lily out.

Anyway, the information that it was Pettigrew who dosed them never really makes it into broad public awareness. Lily leaves, but from then on she's basically pegged as a stereotypical Mudblood social-climber/whore/seductress who tricked a noble into getting her pregnant. Lily is now henceforth terribly outcast, worse off even than an ordinary Muggleborn witch.

Lily's kid is born late July 1980. there's no Voldemort in this AU, or he's unimportant, but that's only one of Lily's problems eliminated. she has to be able to support herself and her son somehow. She asks Slughorn to be his apprentice; he refuses because of the social stigma. Flitwick is her second choice -- she preferred Potions -- but Flitwick accepts.

Sometime between late 1981 and early 1985 -- haven't decided when, Lily's son just has to be young -- Lily is killed in the sort of experimental Charms research that it is implied killed Pandora Lovegood (Luna's mum) in canon. Dumbledore and Flitwick knew where Lily lived; Flitwick can't take the kid in, and so Dumbledore takes what he thinks is pity on the child and delivers the child to Lily's only remaining relative: Petunia.

Since there is no need for a blood protection, Petunia delivers the child to an orphanage within a week. small mercy.

No one adopts him. he stays in the orphanage. Eventually, in July 1991, it's McGonagall who delivers his Hogwarts letter. nothing significant has changed in the Wizarding World, and a boy instantly recognizable as (Lord) James Potter's lookalike bastard son heads to Hogwarts that September ...

Yeah, not nice at all.
 

chronodekar

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That is dark - as you warned. And it makes me uncomfortable, but more importantly, where would it go from there? I get the feeling that you want to use that as a back-story. Without the threat of Voldermort, Harry's just a random orphan. Or did I misunderstand and you meant it to be a story about Lily? Pettigrew's side of things feels absent too. i.e. after the mess, does he do anything? Or just moves out of the limelight?

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It's intentionally dark. I basically gave Lily's son a modified version of Voldemort's background. He's not an orphan, James is still alive and active in wizarding politics, which is why the boy would be so instantly recognizable -- not only does he look exactly like James (except for the eyes) but James is always in the public eye. As for Peter Pettigrew, I haven't figured that part out yet. Nor have I figured out overall what I want to do with it. But it is intentionally dark, yes, most assuredly so.

It's not a story about Lily, she dies like I said, in a Charms research accident -- I might have forgotten that word above -- when her son is still small, only a couple or few years old. It's a story about whatever happens to her son. I think it could be an interesting one, especially if there was no Voldemort at all in this timeline.
 
I just honestly don't see the point, beyond (Social)torture porn.
 

AoMythology

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It's intentionally dark. I basically gave Lily's son a modified version of Voldemort's background. He's not an orphan, James is still alive and active in wizarding politics, which is why the boy would be so instantly recognizable -- not only does he look exactly like James (except for the eyes) but James is always in the public eye. As for Peter Pettigrew, I haven't figured that part out yet. Nor have I figured out overall what I want to do with it. But it is intentionally dark, yes, most assuredly so.

It's not a story about Lily, she dies like I said, in a Charms research accident -- I might have forgotten that word above -- when her son is still small, only a couple or few years old. It's a story about whatever happens to her son. I think it could be an interesting one, especially if there was no Voldemort at all in this timeline.
Hmm... Sounds like it's in need of a twist.

So, there's a professor Harry has a rapport with, his mentor and the closest thing to an actual father this Harry has: the Potions professor Severus Snape.

We (and Harry) are given hints that he's not who he seems: a reference to a Potion better than the Polyjuice Snape invented years earlier that is not mentioned anywhere; slipping up and referring to events over forty years earlier as if he had been around (Snape is supposed to be 31-38) ; all that culminates in Harry finding out about his mentor's youthful mistakes leading to being expelled at the age of 16, for unleashing a basilisk and accidentally killing Myrtle Warren.

Yes, it's Tom Riddle in disguise, hiding from his mistakes. In a thorough reversal, Harry tempts Tom into becoming a Dark Wizard and is the driving force behind a civil war more terrible than the Wizards have seen in this timeline, in living memory.
 

chronodekar

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It's intentionally dark. I basically gave Lily's son a modified version of Voldemort's background.
I did not realize this.

It would be a dark story .. the story of how Harry becomes Voldermort in a timeline where our canon Voldermort does not exist!

I think I could be impressed with such a story.

-chronodekar
 

seitora

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Random blursed idea for a NGE crossover, of all things

Gendo Ikari becomes the new Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher

I would probably set it in Year 5, at least. It'd be basically in a setting without the Evas or Angels or Impact or Instrumentality, but keeps Gendo and Shinji with the same personalities, and of course they're both wizards who can use magic. Gendo would probably move from Japan to Scotland to hunt for the Resurrection Stone to see his dead wife again, and would drag Shinji with him.

Gendo: Get in the train, Shinji.
No idea if other NGE kids would come along. If Asuka was to transfer to Hogwarts as well, I'd headcanon her as a halfblood who would end up bullying all the purebloods.
 

chronodekar

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I think I saw that idea posted on the discord channel - a variant I liked was that Gendo would be a regular non-magical human. That idea fascinates me. Not just Gendo - but if we could do a DADA professor who was just a regular human (perhaps a squib?) that none of the students would be aware of. Then, just before the year is over, the secret is revealed.

Would be fun to read, me thinks.

-chronodekar
 
I actually kind of adore that idea too, albeit that Shinji would still be a wizard (and Yui would have been a witch before her death). It still runs into the roadblock of Gendo searching for the Resurrection Stone, which would be very hard to square with him not having magic. I guess I can have Fuyutsuki tag along as an 'adviser' with Gendo, and Fuyutsuki does have magic.

I'm not beholden to a specific year, though year 5 seems most ideal to me. Mostly since I'd love to have Umbridge come in and rant at Gendo, only for Gendo to just give her the stare. In a case of Year 5, I'd probably have Shinji and Asuka a year younger than the Golden Trio and in Year 4 classes instead.
 
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