Naruto How would you train Team 7?

nixofcyzerra

Well-Known Member
#1
You wake up in Kakashi's body the day before Naruto's year's team placements. You realise that you have access to all of his memories and training, and after a little experimentation you find you have access to all of Kakashi's abilities and techniques. You also realise you can't remember a thing about the Naruto franchise from a reader/viewer's perspective, except that you enjoy it (hopefully) and the title.

You realise that telling the 3rd Hokage that you're someone else is a good way to either be committed or end up in T&I, so you elect to assume Kakashi's life.

You have a hyper-active acknowledgement-seeking book-dumb knuckle-head with more stamina than perhaps anyone in the village and a chakra circulatory system to match, but with the chakra control of a toddler. He also learnt a Jonin-level Ninjutsu in only a few hours, if that.

You have a cynical, traumatised, vengeance-seeker with a superiority complex who considers teamwork a dirty word. He's also a genius prodigy who could be far ahead of his peers in skill, although you'll need to test him to find out exactly how good he is.

And you have a civilian-born kunoichi who apparently has a bad case of fangirl-ism.

So. What do you do?
 

Altered Nova

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#2
No reader knowledge of the plot and setting, eh? Well that'll make it a lot more difficult to deal with Sasuke's eventual defection when you don't know the truth of the Uchiha massacre or that he's even going to defect. Hmm... Well, Kakashi seemed to be getting through to him with that speech about how even Sasuke isn't the only person who has suffered, and that even though he had it pretty bad he was still better off than the Hakus of the world because at least he still had a home and comrades who cared about him. Too bad Kakashi waited until the last possible moment to say that and the Sound Four beat that lesson out of Sasuke. Still, teaching Sasuke some empathy and perspective and letting him know he isn't alone seems like a good start, so I'd probably start consulting with a therapist about the best way to speak to a traumatized child and give Sasuke canon!Kakashi's speech as soon as he's started trusting me, expanding on it over time. Hopefully he'll be happier and more invested in his friends and home by the time Orochimaru gets to him. I'd also probably train him harder, really push him to his limits. I would know that another confrontation between him and Itachi is inevitable, so I'd give him chidori early and try to make him strong enough to survive that meeting.

Naruto is basically Kakashi's family, so I'd probably try to develop more of a relationship with him. Maybe pressure the Hokage for permission to reveal my relationship with Naruto's father so Naruto can feel that he has a real family for the first time in his life. I'd try to beat some brain cells into his head and probably hire Ebisu to help get his basics and chakra control up to par. I'd definitely teach him the memory clone trick and probably get him started on the Rasengan. I might even hire someone to teach him shuriken shadow clone and clone explosion as soon as I can trust that he won't destroy half the village with them.

Sakura's fangirl-ism would drive me nuts. I'd have to do something to shut that down, but I'm not really sure what. If the Wave mission wasn't enough to make her take being a shinobi seriously I dunno what will. I just don't understand such powerful unreciprocated love. Then again she did eventually shape up and pull her weight when the shit hit the fan in the forest of death, so maybe her fangirlism isn't something I need to fix but something she just needs to grow out of. At the least I'll definitely teach her some genjutsu and enough strategy and tactics to put it to good use so she'll be better able to handle herself when it's time for her to step up.
 

Shirotsume

Not The Goddamn @dmin
#3
First I walk through the street reading porn.


The bell test I do as normal, and assuming that they all pass, the first thing I do is, instead of dissapearing, I just hide so I can release Naruto. Cause seriously? The fuck.

I use this time to ask Naruto a question that I'll elaborate on later- and being very convincing is important here.

Next day I instantly lay into Sasuke and Sakura for abandoning their teammate, tell them they're on thin ice or probation. I then silence Naruto's inevitable bullshit by pointing out that he should be just as worried and he's not thinking as a team either- he'll be sent back if they do.

From there I sit them down an explain the tentative plan for the whole team, point out each's strengths and weaknesses. Sakura is smart, but physically weak. She will be doing exercises, and I'll likely have to keep dropping in on her at random points in the day and forcing her to eat- she's not eating enough calories bar none.

A hands on Kakashi is weird, yes?

Sasuke is strong physically, and has good book smarts, but needs a good grounding in tactics and not being a fuckdamn retard- Itachi was an ANBU captain at this age. Sasuke either needs to cheat or needs teammwork. Given that Itachi is also a ninja, and a very good one, he obviously cheats. So Sasuke will need to cheat AND will need teamwork. There's no harm in using every advantage you can- Itachi sure as hell will.

Naruto is strong physically. He's also an asswipe at this stage that doesn't have precious people- nor has he spent enough time around Team 7 to consider them such. He will be taught actual, proper taijutsu. The first reason is because that will make his Kage Bunshin terrifyingly dangerous. The second is that he needs the discipline and self awareness a proper taijutsu training delivers.

Finally, it's time to play 'wake the fuck up and smell the java.' That question I asked Naruto earlier was to convince him to allow me to do this without breaking the law.

Here's the nice part. Kakashi's childhood was not my childhood. There's a sense of detachment there. So I tell them that it's time for some 'team bonding.' I explain Sakumo and Obito. (Obviously, Kakashi did not have a nice childhood.)

So then I drop the bomb- the reason I shared that is because there's information in everyone's past that teammates need to know, like my Sharingan. I then inform them that each of them will inform their teammates of their past- or I will for them.

Sakura goes first, sharing nothing. Then Sasuke. I then slip in and inform the team (also to Sasuke's suprise) that we'll all eventually be dealing with that. Before Sasuke can throw a shitfit, Naruto goes and pretty much ends all discussion.

At that point, I inform them that such backstories aren't uncommon. Genocides happen. There are other demon containers in the world. Suicides and teammates sacrificing themselves happen every day. None of them should earn you pity- and another person's problems are just as important to them as yours is you. You never compare yourself to other people- only yourself in the past.

I dismiss them, and then promptly despair as they instantly ignore every part of today in favor of being complete retards for the next few years. Gai can go shove it about youth.
 

Altered Nova

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#4
Shirotsume said:
A hands on Kakashi is weird, yes?
Naruto did have a flashback once of Kakashi randomly popping up in his apartment with a basket of vegetables nagging him to eat better, so apparently Kakashi was actually kind of hands on, he just did it offscreen. I wouldn't be surprised if he'd had a talk with Sakura's parents about her dieting habits after her pitiful performance in the bell test.
 

nixofcyzerra

Well-Known Member
#5
Is it bad form to post your own answers on a question-asking thread you made barely more than 2 hours ago? I'm so impatient.

Well, after the meeting with the 3rd in Naruto's apartment, the first thing I'd do is... breathe a sigh of relief that the man Kakashi's memories tell me has the nickname "God of Shinobi" didn't think anything was amiss. He could seriously ruin my day.

The second thing I'd do is, instead of being hours late like Kakashi's memories tell me I should be, go straight to the academy and watch how my prospective students act when no-one else is around for a couple of hours. Good thing I'd've brought a book (that I've technically never read.) I might also try to talk to Iruka at this point to get another point of view. More information is always good, after all.

After watching them for a while, and making and hearing some introductions, I would probably have a decent idea of their personalities and a general idea as to how they interact and would work as a team. I'd also know, that as the franchise was called "Naruto," that he's likely the main character, and will likely turn out to be a "diamond in the rough." So I'll tell them to report to the training grounds immediately, instead of the next day. After all, a ninja has to ready at a moments notice. I'd tell them to report to a training ground that's far away enough that I've got time to body flicker over to the Hokage and bounce something off of him and get his permission for it.

I'd give them a unique test, probably first giving them a verbal quiz on what they know of their team-mates and what they think their role on the team could be, and then steal their forehead protectors and tell them to take them back from me in order to pass. Shinobi seem to take a fair amount of pride in them. I'd hide somewhere to test their tracking ability, then give them the run-around like Kakashi to get an idea of their strengths and weaknesses. I would, of course, limit my abilities.

After I'd passed them, I'd take Naruto aside and tell him I've had permission from the Hokage to tell them about the events surrounding Naruto's graduation, with the exception of the fox. I'd explain to the other two that Mizuki was a traitor and may have sabotaged their educations, (Seriously, how did this never come up in canon? The guy who apparently was involved in teaching Naruto's class for years turned out to be a traitor who hated Konoha. Oh, I'm sure he still gave it his all to prepare them for the rigours of Shinobi life!) and emphasize that he definitely sabotaged Naruto's. Also mention that Naruto can use the Kage Bunshin the way he does because he's got ridiculously high stamina due to his Uzumaki heritage. No other reason, no sir.

Even if he hadn't, I'd still scapegoat him. After all, Naruto's the main character and a Jinchuuriki. He's almost definitely going to get stronger, and it would hopefully be fairly obvious to me by this point that Naruto sees Sasuke as a rival, and will actively seek to out-do him, and Sasuke has a bit of a complex about becoming stronger. So make it appear that Naruto's been suffering under a handicap all this time, so Sasuke will take him more seriously and will be less likely to lose his cool if Naruto's showing faster improvement. It's all because he's not being screwed over anymore!

Then I'd give them a training regimen, based off of what I saw from the test. Make sure Sakura starts eating right, and give all of them chakra control exercises as homework. Keep giving more exercises to Sakura as fast as she gets the hang of them, so she's constantly working to build stamina and learning something new at the same time. Start working to fix Naruto's Taijutsu, and see if I can arrange for remedial 1-1 academic lessons for him with Iruka. Have Sasuke keep doing what he's doing in addition to my homework, as his regimen is actually pretty good already.

Also, lots of supervised sparring. Naruto vs. Sasuke, with Sakura on the side of whoever lost the last time. Naruto might lose a lot at first, but fighting all those clones will wear Sasuke out and help him build stamina. Plus him going home tired out every day, along with the chakra control exercises, should sate his desire for becoming stronger. If Sasuke shows any jealously over Naruto's improvement compared to him, or expresses desire for new techniques, point out that his improvement rate will sky-rocket once he awakens his Sharingan, and it doesn't make sense to spend time teaching him jutsu when he'll eventually be able to learn them with a glance.

When Naruto's tai-jutsu improves enough to make a difference, start asking Sakura to suggest strategies for Sasuke to use. Mention using henge to disguise himself as one of Naruto's clones as an example. Naruto will react and adapt to successful strategies against him ,and it'll force them all to improve and start fighting smarter, and adjust all three of them to working with another person. I'd also have them spar as a team against me frequently.

Thanks to my awareness of the medium I'd be stuck in, I'd probably do my best to put off any missions outside the village. I have a "main character" on my team. Murphy's law could be in full effect.

As generals for a teaching style, I'd try to encourage questions, set aside personal time for all three of them, and do my best to either explain my reasoning behind my instructions, or lead them to figure out the reasoning for themselves.

Altered Nova said:
I'd probably start consulting with a therapist about the best way to speak to a traumatized child
Are there therapists? You'd think they'd be over-worked. Then again, apparently Tsunade can heal mental trauma to a degree, so maybe look around for a good med-nin. That Kabuto guy's enthusiastic, but he's probably not got enough seniority.

I would know that another confrontation between him and Itachi is inevitable, so I'd give him chidori early and try to make him strong enough to survive that meeting.
How do you know that he'll even ever see Itachi again? Remember Sasuke apparently never told anyone what Itachi said about testing his capacity. What, because Naruto's a shonen manga, they'll eventually be a family reunion... "to the death?!" That's... actually solid logic. Carry on.

Naruto is basically Kakashi's family, so I'd probably try to develop more of a relationship with him. Maybe pressure the Hokage for permission to reveal my relationship with Naruto's father so Naruto can feel that he has a real family for the first time in his life.
Yeah, but you're not Kakashi. You don't really have any emotional connection to Minato, except that when you tap into Kakashi's memories of him, you think: "Wow, he was a real froody dude." So unless you're the kind of person who can form a surrogate little brother bond pretty easily, you'd have to lie to and manipulate Naruto.


Shirotsume said:
First I walk through the street reading porn.
You sir, have your priorities straight.B)

The bell test I do as normal, and assuming that they all pass, the first thing I do is, instead of disappearing, I just hide so I can release Naruto. Cause seriously? The fuck.
Why even the bell test? You aren't Kakashi, so you probably don't have his teamwork fetish.

From there I sit them down and explain the tentative plan for the whole team, point out each's strengths and weaknesses. Sakura is smart, but physically weak. She will be doing exercises, and I'll likely have to keep dropping in on her at random points in the day and forcing her to eat- she's not eating enough calories bar none.
I like this more, but unless you emphasize their strengths, or at least their potential, over their weaknesses, you'll destroy Sakura's confidence and turn Naruto against you. He's had years of people putting him down, and responds much better to positive reinforcement. Maybe point out to Sakura that practically none of the older female ninja look like they've been abusing steroids.

Sasuke is strong physically, and has good book smarts, but needs a good grounding in tactics and not being a fuckdamn retard- Itachi was an ANBU captain at this age. Sasuke either needs to cheat or needs teammwork. Given that Itachi is also a ninja, and a very good one, he obviously cheats. So Sasuke will need to cheat AND will need teamwork. There's no harm in using every advantage you can- Itachi sure as hell will.
To be fair, I'm fairly sure that Sasuke's tactics are decent, except when Itachi's involved. He tried to negotiate with Orochimaru in the FoD.

Naruto is strong physically. He's also an asswipe at this stage that doesn't have precious people- nor has he spent enough time around Team 7 to consider them such. He will be taught actual, proper taijutsu. The first reason is because that will make his Kage Bunshin terrifyingly dangerous. The second is that he needs the discipline and self awareness a proper taijutsu training delivers.
Asswipe might be a little strong, but I see where you're coming from. 5 minutes watching Naruto will show you he's starved for attention. As I said, positive reinforcement, and explaining either the benefits of any training regimen I give him, or why it's necessary for his growth, will switch him into Hard Worker (master advanced jutsu in very short time) Mode. And Yes to everything involving the Taijutsu. He's got the reserves for massive ninjutsu, but not the maturity.


Finally, it's time to play 'wake the fuck up and smell the java.' That question I asked Naruto earlier was to convince him to allow me to do this without breaking the law.

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So then I drop the bomb- the reason I shared that is because there's information in everyone's past that teammates need to know, like my Sharingan. I then inform them that each of them will inform their teammates of their past- or I will for them.

Sakura goes first, sharing nothing. Then Sasuke. I then slip in and inform the team (also to Sasuke's suprise) that we'll all eventually be dealing with that. Before Sasuke can throw a shitfit, Naruto goes and pretty much ends all discussion.

At that point, I inform them that such backstories aren't uncommon. Genocides happen. There are other demon containers in the world. Suicides and teammates sacrificing themselves happen every day. None of them should earn you pity- and another person's problems are just as important to them as yours is you. You never compare yourself to other people- only yourself in the past.
...Dude. I had a relatively normal child-hood. Without the emotional attachment to Kakashi's memories, there is no way in hell I could look a 12-year old kid who's entire family was slaughtered, and then suffered a mind-rape super-genjutsu, straight in the eye and tell him to "man up. Everybody's got problems. Life sucks." And at this point he's known you for less than 2 days. Even if he needs to hear it, I'd probably try to put the same points across to him at a later date when he knows me a little better.
 

Shirotsume

Not The Goddamn @dmin
#6
The bell test because that's what he's always done. if I do something else, and they pass, there's going to be inquiries, and I'm sure everything will be enough of a shitshow anyway. And I personally think teamwork is a damn big deal myself.

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Yeah, positive reinforcement, while explaining how I'm going to fix their issues.Should have specified.

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Yeah, sorry, i was going for 'blunt, hands-on, wordy kakashi.' Canon!Kakashi caused a lot of problems by just deciding stuff and never saying why or assuming they would figure it out.

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The problem is, that's exactly what they- yes, they, all three of them, need to hear, and it's directed at all of them.

Naruto needs something that shows he's not alone- and the idea to man up is obvious to him and he does it anyway.
Sakura needs shown that shit happens- and that people move on from it. Life is not fairytale princess bullshit, and Sasuke isn't her prince in shining armor.
Sasuke needs to gain perspective. He needs to not let tragedy rule his life. He needs to get the idea that he is a special little snowflake, just like everyone else.

As you may have noticed from me posting about the forums, I'm slightly abrasive. I also really don't like annoying kids. The sooner I pull their heads out of their ass, the better for all involved.

If telling a 12 year old kid that saw his family slaughtered to grow the fuck up gets him to stop stewing in their death, then I would do it in a heartbeat, and I know it would work because canon nearly had it happen in a situation FAR less advantageous than this.

Does that make me cruel? Probably. But I also think it's more cruel to let a bunch of kids sit in a psychological hell instead of trying to draw them out because they don't know me well enough.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ just depends on which cruelty you think is worse, I guess.
 

nixofcyzerra

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#7
Shirotsume said:
Yeah, sorry, i was going for 'blunt, hands-on, wordy kakashi.' Canon!Kakashi caused a lot of problems by just deciding stuff and never saying why or assuming they would figure it out.
Very true.


I agree with your intentions, but not your methodology. If you give a just-graduated Sakura a wake-up call speech like that before she finds any solid motivation, she runs a pretty big risk, IMO, of quitting. I know the wave mission didn't, but experiences like those promote growth while speeches don't.

If I thought it truly was for the best, I'd like to think I'd be able to say something like that that to a kid like Sasuke, but if I had to work with Sasuke, I'd probably try to stick someone else with the job of telling him. I have to have this kid as my subordinate, and giving him a speech like that would be the fastest way to get onto his sh*t-list. I don't need the approval of a 12-year old, but it'll severely damage team-work dynamics.

Naruto is probably the one who least needs to hear this speech, and would react best to it, but I very much doubt either he or the 3rd would give permission to inform the other two of his status as a container.

Plus the 3rd might kick your ass for "manipulating Naruto into revealing his secret."
 

whitewhiskey

Well-Known Member
#8
First thing I might do is see about common housing. Living together, which would be hard at first, helps to learn things about each other, and in a world where people can take on each-others appearance, noticing little things can mean the difference between life and death.

Next, I build up some dependance between the three, give each of them a day where they are to instruct their teammates on a subject, with me still observing or nearby. Each of the three have some glaring weaknesses, but each has things to teach the others, but their own initial bull headedness would prevent them from realizing this.

Naruto is good at evading. No, it may not be the whole "Leading ANBU on a merry chase" thing that some fans would say, but he's at least able to evade genin and possibly chunin with relative ease, even when he's playing around.

Sasuke could handle physical combat. While he may be about as enthusiastic a teacher as Severus Snape, we know that Naruto tends to learn through action, so it would be good for him, and Sakura would be able to toughen up some, which she would really need.

Sakura's brainpower is kinda something Naruto needs, and to a lessor extent Sasuke could probably benefit. Without more in depth information on the ninja world, I'm not sure what thought, but chakra information would probably be a part of it.

Another thing would be maybe a shadowing. After maybe six-months to a year, maybe sooner, maybe later, I would seek another jonin to keep an eye on them and have them follow me on a higher ranked mission. This would be to show them the darker side of the ninja life. An alternative to this would be to give them a sit down with some veterans, especially for Sakura, to understand how serious this job is.
 
#9
Given one wouldn't know about the future, one would think they have time enough to train them.
It's not like they HAVE to become "at least THIS strong" by some specific date, do they?

Lot of teamwork exercises. They all need them, if for different reason. Not forcing them, though: that always ends badly.
Possibly finding a way to interest them into teamwork on something out of training: out of training bonding is the most important part of teamwork by far, and it cannot be forced.

Naruto is a mix of his mother and Obito. Needs to learn how to STOP&THINK before acting. Look for games that might catch his interests.
Sasuke mostly needs to learn trusting others. Which means time with his team as that's another thing that cannot be forced. Maybe set him to teach Sakura and Naruto how to cover the holes in their forms.
Sakura needs to stop her diet and find a reason to be a ninja. The first is simple: work her to the ground everyday AND give her a dietology book, putting her in charge of the food for the team. That will help Sasuke and Naruto, as well, as being 13-years-old orphans means they don't eat well.
The second is yet another thing that cannot be forced. Look for info on her clan specialities, wasn't her father quite strong in his day?

Once teamwork is decent enough, hint how everybody has secrets, it's up to them to reveal them or not and one should respect's another's wish to keep a secret. Unless they are enemies then finding their secrets is the first thing you have to do.
 

e39042

Well-Known Member
#10
As soon as I'd passed Team 7 I'd tell Naruto the truth about his parentage (privately), start teaching him the Rasengan, and get in contact with Jiraiya. If for nothing else but access to the Toad contract. Other than that I'd focus on improving his Chakra control and get him started on Kage Bunshin training.

I'd get Sakura started on Genjutsu and Medical training asap, and otherwise focus on building up her endurance/stamina. Teaching her how to open the gates might not be a bad idea either. It's the sort of boost she could really use. That goes for all of them really.

As for Sasuke, I guess I'd try to awaken his Sharingan in a controlled environment by scheduling fake missions where I put him in "seemingly" life or death situations using disguised clones. After that I'd start teaching him as many low-mid level ninjutsu as his Sharingan could keep up with. Not sure how I'd handle the Curse Seal thing... maybe try and get Anko involved with his training somehow, and have Sasuke sign a summoning contract (any contract that wasn't the Snake one). If he still went down the same route as he did in canon where he attempted to use the Chidori on Naruto I'd request that the Hokage assign an Anbu to Sasuke for 24/7 surveillance.

I'd also get all three of them started on nature manipulation the moment all three of them had sufficient chakra control to attempt it. Perhaps as a reward for doing well in the Chunin exams?
 

Shirotsume

Not The Goddamn @dmin
#11
nixofcyzerra said:
Shirotsume said:
Yeah, sorry, i was going for 'blunt, hands-on, wordy kakashi.' Canon!Kakashi caused a lot of problems by just deciding stuff and never saying why or assuming they would figure it out.
Very true.


I agree with your intentions, but not your methodology. If you give a just-graduated Sakura a wake-up call speech like that before she finds any solid motivation, she runs a pretty big risk, IMO, of quitting. I know the wave mission didn't, but experiences like those promote growth while speeches don't.

If I thought it truly was for the best, I'd like to think I'd be able to say something like that that to a kid like Sasuke, but if I had to work with Sasuke, I'd probably try to stick someone else with the job of telling him. I have to have this kid as my subordinate, and giving him a speech like that would be the fastest way to get onto his sh*t-list. I don't need the approval of a 12-year old, but it'll severely damage team-work dynamics.

Naruto is probably the one who least needs to hear this speech, and would react best to it, but I very much doubt either he or the 3rd would give permission to inform the other two of his status as a container.

Plus the 3rd might kick your ass for "manipulating Naruto into revealing his secret."
Deserting your post probably goes about as well as it does in this world. There is no 'quitting' the military. That doesn't mean I won't help her find some motivation, but she needs to buck up.

As for Sasuke, if he wants to throw a little bitch fit that's fine with me- I don't need to like me, and he won't anyway. That doesn't stop him from being able to learn and work with his team.

In fact, uniting them against me for a few months would help band them together.

As for the third... I would only use logic, and you have to admit the logic of them sharing about themselves it rock solid. In the end it's Naruto's choice alone, not the third's. I doubt he'll like that, but in the end his hands are somewhat tied.

As for pushing them... I don't like putting things off. Naruto's going to get into deep shit, all jichuuriki do. Sasuke is gunning for ending up in deep shit, and etween the two of them Sakura is getting dragged along.

I'll need to train as well- I'm the mentor dude, I'm very much in danger of dying.

Honestly, I doubt any of this will be needed though. Explaining that literally everyone I ever loved or knew commited suicide, some to save, some to attone, some to protect, and one commited suicide by ME, will get their attention. The point is less 'suck it up' and more 'look, many people have issues in their past. They may be slightly better or worse by some arbitrary scale, but they all suck and I wouldn't want to trade pasts for it."

I would then explain that Sasuke and Naruto probably THINK they would want to switch pasts- Sasuke because he would never have lost his family, and Naruto because he would have had some in the first place. And Sakura is probably under a lot of restrictions that while on an arbitrary scale aren't bad, would be immensely annoying to both orphans- things like 'enforced bedtimes,' fights, house rules, no freedom, no privacy, having your life micromanaged, etc etc. Then it's a nice explanation about perspective using grass from above and at an angle. The entire point of this talk, I'll tell them as a bit of red herring, is that you can never compare yourself to anyone- but yourself in the past. In pain, in experiences, and in power- just always try to better yourself.
 

TheKinginRed

Well-Known Member
#12
Hmm, I think I'd do much of what Shirotsume said but perhaps with a few little additions.

I can't remember who but someone said having them live together, a good idea, I'd like to borrow it please.

I'd definitely send Sakura to train with the medics every now and again to gradually give her medical knowledge. This would also force her to do more chakra control training, never enough control folks.

During the 1 month between the chunin exams, I'd convince Jiraiya to take the three of them to Mt. Myoboku to introduce them as a team, to the toads. Early sage mode training and all that with fukasaku and shima would be great for them all.

Especially after the exams, and Tsunade's return. I'm sure she wouldn't object too much to the three of them and me going to train with the toads. After all with Akatsuki hunting Naruto and Orochimaru invested in Sasuke that seems like the safest place for them.

Then we're staying there for the timeskip, just 2 years of straight training with the toads, Sakura can go back to learn medical ninjutsu from Tsunade if she wants but Naruto and Sasuke at the very least are going to be sages if I have to beat it into them.


(Off-topic but would you all be interested in a 'what would you do if you were Hokage(Hashirama, Tobirama, Hiruzen, Minato, Tsunade, Danzo?)
 

seitora

Well-Known Member
#13
Somebody post that FMP video of Sousuke training the rugby team.

Because seriously that'd be about it.
 

goldenarms

Well-Known Member
#14
Put them all in a pit and give them the condition for passing -- kill your teammates.

Of course, there's no way in hell they'll be doing an actual death battle -- they're going to be all put under an illusion without their knowledge to accurately gauge their skills and disposition. Each genin gets a personal incentive speech to better motivate them -- Naruto: the road to Hokage; Sakura: the way to Sasuke's heart; Sasuke: the power to kill his brother.

Judge their actions accordingly, though I really don't expect them to... oh shit, Sasuke just killed his teammates, didn't he...?

...oh, this is bad... think, think.... okay, this could work to my advantage...

End test. Fail Sasuke. Goad him into touching on the subject of why he failed, and make it seem like I'm convinced enough to give them a retest "just this once." Leave them alone for an hour or two for lunch, and carefully spy upon them to see if they get to talking on the baited path. Probably not, but I want them to actually think about what does this mean for them.

If they do get to talking about Sasuke or I see some improvements, I'll "reconsider" the failure and pass them all. Otherwise, I'll set up the "real" test of getting them to be a team... by putting them in direct danger of death at the hands of people out for my head. Shadow Clones transformed into criminals -- Naruto and Sakura get ordinary villains; depending on Sasuke's actions, he may well get Itachi played by myself. Entire purpose is to make them understand that they are a team, and as such, must act as a team. If I "kill" them all before that lesson is achieved, they fail. If at least two of them behave like a team, then I'll pass them, and work on the stubborn nail later -- I predict this is going to be Sasuke, seeing his fixation for getting revenge. All three get the message, well, this might be easier than I thought.
 
#15
Once\if they pass the real genin exam, make them drunk, purposely. And record them while drunk.

This will give everybody a reference about their alcohol tolerance level, which will make easier for them to avoid getting drunk by chance(especially on missions), with the recording act as a motivational to stay away from alcohol in first place, if possible.

Also, that might give them(and me) some insight on their teammates. I'll just have to make sure to edit out anything it's better they don't learn this way... Naruto's being the Kyubi host, mainly.
 

Altered Nova

Well-Known Member
#16
You might get arrested for that, Team 7 is too young to legally drink.
 
#17
Altered Nova said:
You might get arrested for that, Team 7 is too young to legally drink.
Legal drinking age in Naruto is still nebulous.
It seems more some kind of moral limit than a law...
also, Naruto had to drink to complete the becoming underling of Gamabunto, didn't he?

And, of course, if it's a law it's probably "it's prohibited to SELL alcohol to minors", so as long as they get alcohol from somebody who can buy it legally it's fine
(that's how the law is in Italy, at least)
 

Altered Nova

Well-Known Member
#18
In America underage drinking is illegal unless the minor drinking is in the presence of a parent, guardian or spouse who is over 21 years old. If you give alcohol to a minor who is not your child or spouse, or allow a minor who is not your child or spouse to drink alcohol in your house without their 21+ year old parent, guardian or spouse present, you have committed a crime.

That said it's probably not a law that's very strictly enforced for underage ninja in the Narutoverse. While technically illegal I'd imagine that most people would hold the same opinion about it as most people (that I know anyway) have about members of the military drinking, that is if you are old enough to kill for your country then you should be old enough to drink too.
 

Knyght

The Collector
#20
Nice to have someone with experience on board. :snigger:
 
#21
Altered Nova said:
In America underage drinking is illegal unless the minor drinking is in the presence of a parent, guardian or spouse who is over 21 years old.
I'd say their Jōnin teacher is "guardian" enough to count.

And, again, we'd need to check the JAPANESE laws on underage drinking more than the Italian or USA ones
 

goldenarms

Well-Known Member
#22
Altered Nova said:
In America underage drinking is illegal unless the minor drinking is in the presence of a parent, guardian or spouse who is over 21 years old. If you give alcohol to a minor who is not your child or spouse, or allow a minor who is not your child or spouse to drink alcohol in your house without their 21+ year old parent, guardian or spouse present, you have committed a crime.

That said it's probably not a law that's very strictly enforced for underage ninja in the Narutoverse. While technically illegal I'd imagine that most people would hold the same opinion about it as most people (that I know anyway) have about members of the military drinking, that is if you are old enough to kill for your country then you should be old enough to drink too.
Interestingly, servicemen in the US military could drink regardless of their age and state laws till the 80s. Groups like MADD pushed for reformation so that bases would be consistent with state laws. And to be frank, that's a GOOD thing, given the number of alcohol-related car crashes, deaths, and other troubles that I've come to be aware of and made to watch, living near and working on a military base -- seriously, you have no idea just how much the human body can stretch when a guard rail is pushing the drive out through the passenger door.

However, I think Naruto noted in-series that one needs to be 20 to drink, which should match up with the Japanese's legal drinking age.
 
#23
goldenarms said:
However, I think Naruto noted in-series that one needs to be 20 to drink, which should match up with the Japanese's legal drinking age.
Naruto said to Jiraiya he was too young to drink, and Kushina asked Naruto to not drink until he was 21...

Given pre-TS Naruto WAS ignorant, I'd say Konoha civilians cannot drink until 21, while this restriction is probably lifted, either de jure or de facto, for ninjas.
Maybe is lifted for chunins? If you're responsible enough to command a team to their death, there is no doubt you are responsible enough to know when and how much alcohol drink
 

goldenarms

Well-Known Member
#24
ankokudaishogun said:
Maybe is lifted for chunins? If you're responsible enough to command a team to their death, there is no doubt you are responsible enough to know when and how much alcohol drink
Bullshit.
 

raedric

Well-Known Member
#25
goldenarms said:
ankokudaishogun said:
Maybe is lifted for chunins? If you're responsible enough to command a team to their death, there is no doubt you are responsible enough to know when and how much alcohol drink
Bullshit.
Had to quote this. In my experience, the more pressure one has pushed on them the more they feel the need to cut loose. A lot of drink can make for some very bad decisions.
 
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