Ranma ½ Is it any good

PCHeintz72

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Ehhh... I agree a lot of crossovers suck, but at the same time, there is also a matter of balancing skill vs power, and a matter of exactly when the cross occurs for both series. Even more important, which canon continuity is used.

For Sailor Moon, especially if anime universe, even if they have raw power, I view them as incompetents when it comes to fighting, and their enemies tactics make them to be bricks for brains. I honestly do believe unless it is early series Ranma, he could stomp them unless they got a lucky hit in or beat him by superior numbers. Whether he can take a youma is actually a more interesting question, as there seems to be two schools of thought on it. I find either approach readable as long as the story is well enough written.

For Nanoha, they have power and training, but age and endurance might be a factor in 1st and 2nd season, by Striker S Nanoha and Fate should be able to take a Manga Ranma though unless he grew up with them, as is the case in some crossovers. I believe the Midchildeans in general, though not Nanoha/Fate, as morally corrupt and not evil, but perhaps anti-hero. Certainly uncaring of other governments though.

For Negima, I do not by any means consider Negi really all that powerful in anime as far as raw fighting goes. He has knowledge, and is a protege... but seriously, unless they gang up on him in numbers or some wacky single strike magical attack like turing him to stone, I do not overly think they could win.

For Dragonball, I actually generally dislike Dragonball, and Ranma crossovers with that series I mostly do not care for though a few have been ok. The problems are I agree as a human he cannot beat them and normally the excuse is either nekoken (yeah right), or they merely did not take him seriously (even if they thought him merely a bug, Ranma should be stomped in a battle). On the other hand, the ones I've seen with him as a Saiyan tend to ignore the concept or take away from all the hardship he went through in canon to get where he did in life.
 

Ura Mamoru

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Are you referring to anime Negi, or manga Negi? I haven't seen any of the Negima anime, so I can't judge anything by its standards.

As for manga Negi, it REALLY depends on timing. Beginning Negi is cake for Ranma (Ranma would shut Negi down the moment he starts actually attacking). Actually, I'd see Ranma being better than Negi for a good amount of the manga, mostly because of the years of hand-to-hand experience, compared to Negi (though Negi's buffing spells would make Ranma have to work for it some, rather than absolutely curbstomping him).

Anything post Ostia tournament though? I'd say it depends on if Negi can buy enough time (or has enough prep-time before the fight) to set up for Raiten Taisou. Ranma is just not fast enough to deal with that once Negi starts using it, let alone the issue with actually hitting Negi bare-handed if he goes Raiten Taisou 2.

Other characters in Negima? Among class 3-A's fighters, I'd probably lean toward Ranma in most match-ups, just on grounds of sheer experience and time put into training.

I could see Ranma beating Mana if she was unable to use guns, but if she had her guns (limited to non-lethal rounds, of course), I can't say either way. And we haven't had enough of a demonstration yet of what Mana does when she goes completely all-out.

Even with her magic sealed, Evangeline still has years upon years of aikijutsu training. We don't see soft styles used much in Ranma 1/2, from what I recall, so I don't know how well he'd do against those.


I'm not even going to touch people from Cosmo Entelechia or the Ala Rubra.
 

chronodekar

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ragnarok1337 said:
I get tired of any and all Ranma crossovers quickly. It just jugs me SO much how Ranma is the best there is at ANYTHING and can beat ANYONE without any trouble.

Powerful mages from Negima? Ranma curbstomps them all.

Sailor Moon? Ranma trounces all the Youma without effort and shows up everyone.

Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha? Apparently they're all filled with a bunch of incompetents.

DEMONS from Ah! My Goddess? He is able to manipulate demons and beat them in battle. Even Hild is easily trounced after a small training sequence. You know, the one nearly on par with the Almighty himself?

Dragonball Z, the KING of all shounen, whose protagonists are capable of blowing up the planet dozens of times over effortlessly? Apparently "superior technique" is capable of taking out threats that can make a planet go BOOM. And Ranma doesn't have all that better of a technique than the Z fighters in the first place.
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Yeah, Ranma is godmodded in all crossover fics starring him. It's like everyone else grasped the "loser ball" for no reason.
:D

Thanks! I've got my LOL quota for today now. ;)

-chronodekar
 

Hawk

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Is <a href='http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6374542/1/The_Lady_of_Sakura_Mountain' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>The Lady of Sakura Mountain</a> any good?

I know it's a lock story, but its summary sounds interesting. Just curious if anyone has read it and can save me the time of reading only to find out it sucks.
 

Dumbledork

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I tried reading it. I didn't get very far. Same with his other fics. They are usually very disturbing.
 

chronodekar

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inverted helix said:
Is <a href='http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6374542/1/The_Lady_of_Sakura_Mountain' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>The Lady of Sakura Mountain</a> any good?

I know it's a lock story, but its summary sounds interesting. Just curious if anyone has read it and can save me the time of reading only to find out it sucks.
I think I started reading the first chapter or so of that fic, but just couldn't get myself to read more. However, in defense of the fic, I can't seem to remember WHAT I found repelling in it....

-sigh-

@Dumbledork,

I remember your 2 "card" signatures. When did Hawk come back? I though he abandoned this forum! (opinion gleamed from NDFs signature)

-chronodekar
 
chronodekar said:
@Dumbledork,

I remember your 2 "card" signatures. When did Hawk come back? I though he abandoned this forum! (opinion gleamed from NDFs signature)

-chronodekar
D's signature was one of the first ones I pointed out to Hawk, in an attempt to establish how large a signature pic Hawk thinks is too large. Which reminds me that I need to do another sweep, since it's been a week or so.
 

Anonguy

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ar_ranma said:
ragnarok1337 said:
And he gets better after a small training sequence.
So you're complaining about a fanfic using a staple of shounen, when it's starring the hero of a shounen series?
>Ranma 1/2
>shonen

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

No.
 

Deathwings

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Anonguy said:
ar_ranma said:
ragnarok1337 said:
And he gets better after a small training sequence.
So you're complaining about a fanfic using a staple of shounen, when it's starring the hero of a shounen series?
>Ranma 1/2
>shonen

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

No.
However, if you cross Ranma with a Shounen series, the he will also be subject to Shounen Tropes by default. That's only logical.
 

Lord Raa

Exporter of Juice Tins
Anonguy said:
ar_ranma said:
ragnarok1337 said:
And he gets better after a small training sequence.
So you're complaining about a fanfic using a staple of shounen, when it's starring the hero of a shounen series?
>Ranma 1/2
>shonen

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

No.
So a series published in Shonen Sunday Magazine isn't shonen? If not, why did the publisher continue to do that for over a decade?

If Ranma isn't a shonen series, what is it? How would you classify it?
 

Anonguy

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Lord Raa said:
Anonguy said:
ar_ranma said:
ragnarok1337 said:
And he gets better after a small training sequence.
So you're complaining about a fanfic using a staple of shounen, when it's starring the hero of a shounen series?
>Ranma 1/2
>shonen

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

No.
So a series published in Shonen Sunday Magazine isn't shonen? If not, why did the publisher continue to do that for over a decade?

If Ranma isn't a shonen series, what is it? How would you classify it?
Ranma 1/2 is a slice of life comedy series. No more, no less.
 

Croaker

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Liam-don said:
You have no idea what a shounen manga is, do you?
Published in Shounen Sunday Magazine, but not shounen.

There's something wrong in this statement.
 

Hawk

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Sledgehammer said:
Clearly, a series isn't shounen unless there's at least three tournament arcs.
:sisi: An amazing number of shounen fit that description.
 

Deathwings

Well-Known Member
Anonguy said:
Lord Raa said:
Anonguy said:
ar_ranma said:
ragnarok1337 said:
And he gets better after a small training sequence.
So you're complaining about a fanfic using a staple of shounen, when it's starring the hero of a shounen series?
>Ranma 1/2
>shonen

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

No.
So a series published in Shonen Sunday Magazine isn't shonen? If not, why did the publisher continue to do that for over a decade?

If Ranma isn't a shonen series, what is it? How would you classify it?
Ranma 1/2 is a slice of life comedy series. No more, no less.
There's too much focus on combat and adventures to be ONLY "Slice Of Life".

It's more of an early prototype of the Romantic Comedy genre with strong Shounen leaning to cash on the fact that Shounen were the most popular type of Manga at the time.

There may not be any tournament, but just about every long story arc are about Ranma's latest combat challenge. That's not "Slice Of Life" by any stretch of the imagination.
 

Tenmu

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Shounen is a demographic, not a genre. End of discussion. :mellow:

oh, wow, for days late? i forgot how slow the Ranma section was. my bad
 

ragnarok1337

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Croaker said:
Liam-don said:
You have no idea what a shounen manga is, do you?
Published in Shounen Sunday Magazine, but not shounen.

There's something wrong in this statement.
Fullmetal Alchemist is listed as Shounen, but it really isn't. It's closer to Seinen, actually.
 

Croaker

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ragnarok1337 said:
Croaker said:
Liam-don said:
You have no idea what a shounen manga is, do you?
Published in Shounen Sunday Magazine, but not shounen.

There's something wrong in this statement.
Fullmetal Alchemist is listed as Shounen, but it really isn't. It's closer to Seinen, actually.
It (was) published in Shounen Gangan, so it's Shounen, happy to help!
 

seitora

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Getting back on topic...

is <a href='http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4378356/1/Magical_Girl_Ranko_vs_Z_Fighter_Ryouga' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Magical Girl Ranko vs. Z Fighter Ryouga</a> worth reading at all? I loved <a href='http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3844604/1/Ryouga_vs_the_Road_Runner' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Ryouga vs the Road Runner</a> but the MGR vs ZFR is like 7x the length of R vs RR
 
I think both of those sound so ghastly just from the titles that I wish I could strangle you to death just for naming them here.
 

foesjoe

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I think you might be overdoing the grumpy old man act a bit, froggie.
 

PCHeintz72

The Sentient Fanfic Search Engine mk II
nuclear death frog said:
I think both of those sound so ghastly just from the titles that I wish I could strangle you to death just for naming them here.
Actually... IMHO NDF the roadrunner one is funny, as long as you consider it a one shot slapstick type funny. Ryoga is hard headed and obsessive even for him....

However, I am very skeptical of a sequel, and that is whay I never read the Magical Girl Ranko vs. Z Fighter Ryouga one. I do not believe I ever will in fear of it ruining my take of the original.
 
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