Marvel-verse

[Aegis]

I need some links or sources to how the Xavier Institute is run, what's happened to it, etc as well as the general X-men Marvel-verse and how it deals with mutants and such. This is due to the fact that I want to see if To Aru Majutsu no Index-verse and the Marvel Verse are in any way compatible. Another question I wanna ask is if there's anyone in Marvel who can retrieve destroyed(not lost or forgotten) memories. As in, recover them on a base level regardless of state. And finally I want to know the basic layout of the mansion. as well. Links to comics and downloads and such are VERY much appreciated. Another piece of information I'd like to know is what's the average power level I should trust amongst the comics? I don't wanna make the Marvel-verse too over powered, that'd suck.

Suggestions and such are appreciated. ^__^

 

[GenocideHeart]

You can't MAKE the MU too overpowered, that's its default state. Just saying.

 

[A Curious Stranger]

Well my knowledge of comics being rather haphazard, uh the Xavier Institute used to take in tons of mutants to teach them to control their powers until Wanda went crazy and did her 'No More Mutants' thing. After that, the government sent in human controlled sentinels to use the mansion as a place to 'look after' the remaining 300 or so mutants. It could be considered a detention camp I guess.

Later on, the X-men move to San Francisco, get in a fight, then try to set up their own independent City-State of Utopia, a place for outcasts of all kinds.

No clue where Xavier is in all of this or why the X-men moved to San Francisco in the first place though. I stick to stuff like Hercules or Iron Fist.

Also, Mutants are treated like total scumbags who don't deserve to lick the boots of humanity, despite being able to disintegrate you with a thought. This is incredibly ridiculous when you take in the fact that the world worships the Fantastic Four, Norman Fucking Osborn, and so many other heroes, super-powered or not.

Really strong Psychics like Professor X or Emma Frost could probably recover memories. Might have to use Cerebro sometimes if it gets out of hand. And Doctor Strange or Doctor Voodoo, being the Sorcerer Supreme can do whatever the fuck that needs to be done with magic. On the tech level, you have Reed Richards, Victor von Doom, etc... considering there's a ton of super geniuses out there.

Then you might have someone like say Molecule Man who can justify everything and recover memories with 'I control Molecules' No seriously.

 

[Aegis]

Alright, and about the comics? Got any links? Or is anyone willing to help me out while I write the Marvel-verse up and supply me with ideas so that I can actually make the fic believeable.

The characters I'll be sending in will be <a href='http://toarumajutsunoindex.wikia.com/wiki/Touma' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Touma</a>, <a href='http://toarumajutsunoindex.wikia.com/wiki/Misaka_Mikoto' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Misaka Mikoto</a>(how much is 5 billion bolts worth in Marvel?) and Definitively Accelerator, whom I think has the greatest chance against the Marvel-verse, considering his ridiculous abilities. Any other characters will be extras, but other than that I just wanna figure out how to put 'em in there. I'm thinking either the Churches will have something to do with it, the war between Magic and Science or something else entirely.

 

[GiantMonkeyMan]

There's a wiki: <a href='http://marvel.wikia.com/X-Men_(Earth-616)' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://marvel.wikia.com/X-Men_(Earth-616)</a>. Most of it's quite detailed as well.

 

[Aegis]

There's a wiki: <a href='http://marvel.wikia.com/X-Men_(Earth-616)' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://marvel.wikia.com/X-Men_(Earth-616)</a>. Most of it's quite detailed as well.

Thanks , I'll check it out. Any suggestions or anything I should keep in mind?

 

[TC_Hazard]

Well my knowledge of comics being rather haphazard, uh the Xavier Institute used to take in tons of mutants to teach them to control their powers until Wanda went crazy and did her 'No More Mutants' thing. After that, the government sent in human controlled sentinels to use the mansion as a place to 'look after' the remaining 300 or so mutants. It could be considered a detention camp I guess.

Later on, the X-men move to San Francisco, get in a fight, then try to set up their own independent City-State of Utopia, a place for outcasts of all kinds.

No clue where Xavier is in all of this or why the X-men moved to San Francisco in the first place though. I stick to stuff like Hercules or Iron Fist.

Also, Mutants are treated like total scumbags who don't deserve to lick the boots of humanity, despite being able to disintegrate you with a thought. This is incredibly ridiculous when you take in the fact that the world worships the Fantastic Four, Norman Fucking Osborn, and so many other heroes, super-powered or not.

Really strong Psychics like Professor X or Emma Frost could probably recover memories. Might have to use Cerebro sometimes if it gets out of hand. And Doctor Strange or Doctor Voodoo, being the Sorcerer Supreme can do whatever the fuck that needs to be done with magic. On the tech level, you have Reed Richards, Victor von Doom, etc... considering there's a ton of super geniuses out there.

Then you might have someone like say Molecule Man who can justify everything and recover memories with 'I control Molecules' No seriously.

To add a bit to this. Xavier gets shot in the head at the end of Messiah Complex. He gets better and starts a soul searching journey, because his memories are kind of weird (This starts in X-Men Legacy 208).

Later he is kidnapped by Osborn and rescued by the X-Men and taken to Utopia.

While Xavier is presumed dead, the X-Men moved to San Francisco, supposedly because it has a history of accepting minorities. The real reason is because too many marvel heroes were near New York.

The they get into a fight with Osborn and the Dark Avengers and Scott, being the brilliant leader that he is, decides that the best course of action is moving the remaining mutant population to a poorly defended, barely functioning remains of Asteroid M, which is then renamed Utopia. At this point the X-Men stop any pretense of being an school and are pretty much a country.

Currently the mutants have gotten some good publicity and an award from the president, but who knows how long that will last.

As for the power level of the X-Men, well it is all over the place really. There are guys like Wolverine, Beast, and Nightcrawler. Then there are people like Iceman, Storm, and Magneto (who by the way is also in Utopia).

People that could recover Touma's memories will be hard to find, because it is not like he has forgotten them. Rather they were destroyed. One of the things I see working is the thing Xavier did when he was regaining his memories. Find people that knew you and download their memories of you into your mind.

Oh and by the way, most Espers in the Toaru universe are artificially created espers, but natural born espers do exist (like Himegami and one of the level five guys) and many of them live in Academy city.

 

[GiantMonkeyMan]

There's a wiki: <a href='http://marvel.wikia.com/X-Men_(Earth-616)' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://marvel.wikia.com/X-Men_(Earth-616)</a>. Most of it's quite detailed as well.

Thanks , I'll check it out. Any suggestions or anything I should keep in mind?

Only advice I could give you would be to decide upon power-levels and abilities before hand and then stick to them (but don't tell us, or it'd ruin the fun). If anyone bitches like 'XYZ could easily beat ABC' be all "shut the fuck up fool, I've already got my stats sorted" and then if someone is all 'well if that's the case then I won't be reading anymore' be all "good, fool, write your own fucking fic before yall be bitching".

 

[Liam-don]

But XYZ could totally beat ABC. :mellow:

 

[GenocideHeart]

Alright, and about the comics? Got any links? Or is anyone willing to help me out while I write the Marvel-verse up and supply me with ideas so that I can actually make the fic believeable.

The characters I'll be sending in will be <a href='http://toarumajutsunoindex.wikia.com/wiki/Touma' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Touma</a>, <a href='http://toarumajutsunoindex.wikia.com/wiki/Misaka_Mikoto' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Misaka Mikoto</a>(how much is 5 billion bolts worth in Marvel?) and Definitively Accelerator, whom I think has the greatest chance against the Marvel-verse, considering his ridiculous abilities. Any other characters will be extras, but other than that I just wanna figure out how to put 'em in there. I'm thinking either the Churches will have something to do with it, the war between Magic and Science or something else entirely.

None of the ones you mentioned would fare well against Omega level mutants. At all. But you probably knew that. 5 billion bolts kinda pale compared to the ability to wipe any form of life higher than a bacteria off the planet's surface... which is what nearly all Omega levels and even some non-Omegas are capable of.

Incidentally, most Omega level mutants are concentrated in the X-Men's lineup.

Also, do remember that the X-Men tend to be able to beat people that on paper should wax them through superior teamwork.

 

[Aegis]

Alright, and about the comics? Got any links? Or is anyone willing to help me out while I write the Marvel-verse up and supply me with ideas so that I can actually make the fic believeable.

The characters I'll be sending in will be <a href='http://toarumajutsunoindex.wikia.com/wiki/Touma' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Touma</a>, <a href='http://toarumajutsunoindex.wikia.com/wiki/Misaka_Mikoto' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Misaka Mikoto</a>(how much is 5 billion bolts worth in Marvel?) and Definitively Accelerator, whom I think has the greatest chance against the Marvel-verse, considering his ridiculous abilities. Any other characters will be extras, but other than that I just wanna figure out how to put 'em in there. I'm thinking either the Churches will have something to do with it, the war between Magic and Science or something else entirely.

None of the ones you mentioned would fare well against Omega level mutants. At all. But you probably knew that. 5 billion bolts kinda pale compared to the ability to wipe any form of life higher than a bacteria off the planet's surface... which is what nearly all Omega levels and even some non-Omegas are capable of.

Incidentally, most Omega level mutants are concentrated in the X-Men's lineup.

Also, do remember that the X-Men tend to be able to beat people that on paper should wax them through superior teamwork.

What about an Awakened Version of said characters? (minus Mikoto). I've read up on a list of the Omega levels(probably incomplete, only 9? I think there are way more right?), all of them even the reality altering ones wouldn't do much to affect Touma directly should the worst happen(AKA Should his body be forced to awaken) and Accelerator at least stands a chance against some of them even if he isn't a be all end all fighter, he's not really meant to be. I also plan on introducing AIM fields, seeing as Touma can read them even if he's yet to notice himself

 

[GenocideHeart]

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Even the reality altering ones?

Let me put this in perspective. The Scarlet Witch, whose reality warping powers are actually pretty MINOR compared to those of people like Franklin Richards, Mad Jim Jaspers, Legion or other such characters, created a ripple in the fabric of existence strong enough to tear apart the MULTIVERSE's structure.

And as I said - Scarlet Witch is one of the average reality warpers, all things said.

Are you SERIOUSLY claiming anyone in ToAru would be mostly immune to people who, with a stray thought, can retroactively make it so that you never even HAD powers - or were born at all - to begin with? Because that's what Wanda can do, and she technically isn't even an Omega level, though she's frigging close. Franklin Richards is also a mutant, by the way, as are David Haller - Legion - and Mad Jim Jaspers (who created the Fury, let's not forget it...).

 

[David Alan Abramczyk]

And remember; for whatever reason it was (authorial grudge, I reckon), Canada is to Mutants what Nazi Germany was to Jews.

Crazy, I know.

 

[TC_Hazard]

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Even the reality altering ones?

Let me put this in perspective. The Scarlet Witch, whose reality warping powers are actually pretty MINOR compared to those of people like Franklin Richards, Mad Jim Jaspers, Legion or other such characters, created a ripple in the fabric of existence strong enough to tear apart the MULTIVERSE's structure.

And as I said - Scarlet Witch is one of the average reality warpers, all things said.

Are you SERIOUSLY claiming anyone in ToAru would be mostly immune to people who, with a stray thought, can retroactively make it so that you never even HAD powers - or were born at all - to begin with? Because that's what Wanda can do, and she technically isn't even an Omega level, though she's frigging close. Franklin Richards is also a mutant, by the way, as are David Haller - Legion - and Mad Jim Jaspers (who created the Fury, let's not forget it...).

I will point out all the characters you just mentioned are either without powers (Franklin), nowhere near the X-Men or the rest of Marvel (Wanda and Jim), or a shadow of their former self (Legion who can't use his powers without help and only one at a time).

I hardly think they are going to have to worry about reality warpers unless the author goes out of his way to bring them in the story.

 

[Estrecca]

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Even the reality altering ones?

Let me put this in perspective. The Scarlet Witch, whose reality warping powers are actually pretty MINOR compared to those of people like Franklin Richards, Mad Jim Jaspers, Legion or other such characters, created a ripple in the fabric of existence strong enough to tear apart the MULTIVERSE's structure.

And as I said - Scarlet Witch is one of the average reality warpers, all things said.

Are you SERIOUSLY claiming anyone in ToAru would be mostly immune to people who, with a stray thought, can retroactively make it so that you never even HAD powers - or were born at all - to begin with? Because that's what Wanda can do, and she technically isn't even an Omega level, though she's frigging close. Franklin Richards is also a mutant, by the way, as are David Haller - Legion - and Mad Jim Jaspers (who created the Fury, let's not forget it...).

As far as I can remember, 616 Mad Jim Jaspers got killed years ago by the Fury and only resurfaced very briefly during Die By The Sword. So he's out.

Legion has a swiss army knife of different personalities each with a unique power, but as far as I can remember he never displayed reality warping as such.

And Franklin Richards has been depowered for the longest time, until one of his future selves showed up to respark his mutant abilities. We have yet to see if he is back to his old 'Celestials-are-interested-in-him' levels.

That said the five billion volts thing... that's perhaps fifty times more intense than your average lightning bolt. Not bad, but nowhere near the top even among energy manipulators. Stronger than Electro, but weaker than Polaris. Never mind people like Vulcan or Magneto.

As for Touma's Imagine Breaker power description, it seems to me like a poor man's version of the Aquarian's power negating aura. [/my $0.02]

 

[sworded]

For that matter many of the Omegas could use their powers to either drop something REALLY big/heavy on him or throw/launch things at several times the speed of sound at him.

 

[Estrecca]

Hmm... After thinking about it for a bit, I reckon that it might be better for this story to stick to the X-Men movieverse (maybe mixed with the still developing Avengers movieverse), perhaps importing additional concepts and characters from the comics as needed.

If the crossover characters are truly meant to have a high impact in the affairs of the Marvelverse, you need to boost them, nerf Marvel or give them a McGuffin of epic proportions beyond their natural powersets. Chances of screwing up power balance if you involve something like a Cosmic Cube shoot into the stratosphere, so I suggest against something like that.

 

[Aegis]

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Even the reality altering ones?

Let me put this in perspective. The Scarlet Witch, whose reality warping powers are actually pretty MINOR compared to those of people like Franklin Richards, Mad Jim Jaspers, Legion or other such characters, created a ripple in the fabric of existence strong enough to tear apart the MULTIVERSE's structure.

And as I said - Scarlet Witch is one of the average reality warpers, all things said.

Are you SERIOUSLY claiming anyone in ToAru would be mostly immune to people who, with a stray thought, can retroactively make it so that you never even HAD powers - or were born at all - to begin with? Because that's what Wanda can do, and she technically isn't even an Omega level, though she's frigging close. Franklin Richards is also a mutant, by the way, as are David Haller - Legion - and Mad Jim Jaspers (who created the Fury, let's not forget it...).

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Pretty Much, yeah, there was an entire episode on this little fact. I mean take a look at the kind of reality Alterning made by an Angel with just a slight and basic use of the Book of Law. Aleisteri Crowley has fully translated this book and with it ended literally any concept of religion in his own area. He's lived for a few hundred years, with well over 50 percent of all magicians are influenced by his teachings, another 2/5ths follow his teachings directly. Scratch that, he was the one who wrote the book down. The man wrote a book that, by definition is a guide for the future(in Crowley's case) and grants you power to stand on Par with an Angel.

This is what happens when an Angel fucks with reality btw, lol.


Touma was the single person completely unnafected by this, Angels are afraid to touch him since he'll instantly erase them with his power at it's worst, he can't touch anything magical since he'll just make it stop working at all. The fact is that Touma's powers once awakened. This body switch that altered reality made even Saints switch bodies, although not conciousness. Touma's power evolution pattern is such that if it's allowed to grow he'll end up like Shiki, only worse. Touma will be enabled to cancel out life, and view the planet's Ley Lines. Meaning he can just bend down, touch and kill everything with a single thought.........or accidentally step on it since by then it will have covered his entire body. Touma can Erase, Negate and Disrupt. And it would also seem that the reason he actually has a harem after saving all those girls is that by touching them he cuts their red string of fate automatically.

And then you have people like The Grand Master. Who don't even need to face you for too long before you die instantly. All he needs is to identify you as a threat and Magical or Scientific he renders w/e it is he sees as powerless for 10 minutes and with the same attack(Solomon's Formula from what I gather) he can use Gravity and Black Holes(Not as strong as true ones though) against them. The problem for mutants is that they themselves are the weapon so it fucks them over entirely.

Index herself is powerful if allowed to use magic. The Book of Eibon, The Lesser, Key of Solomon (Lemegeton), The Book of the Dead, Necronomicon, Houbokushi, The Book of Law, Time related to Life and Death. Those are some of the 103,000 Grimmoires she holds in memory, in a fanfic that alone can be expanded on and in any location, given enough development and time I'm damn sure Index would become a deadly force, seeing as she can already shoot her own Hyper Beam into space.

Then you have guys like Fiamma of the right with really broken techniques.

The strike that ends everything it touches: this attack destroys everything it touches without any destructive force.

The strike that reaches everything when swung: this attack delivers itself right next to its target without any speed, thus allowing him to move anywhere at will.

He can produce a 30-40 km-sized sword made of flame.

/Copypasta

Vento can just kill you by having you hate her in any shape or form.

I'm not saying To Aru Majutsu characters are Be All End All characters, but you still shouldn't brush them away like dust bunnies.

 

[GenocideHeart]

See, the problem is that Marvel reality warpers tend to be on another level from ones from ToAru. When they affect something, the effects of their screwing around is felt across the entire omniverse - there's a reason why the Living Tribunal massively frowns on those activities. In their case, they can literally completely erase the very concept of your power from the fabric of reality - meaning they could turn Touma's ass into an unpowered, common person with nothing special one.

It's kind of like Shiki's Mystic Eyes of Death perception, only on massive crack. When a Marvel reality warper dicks around, they are more or less taking the Book of the Universe, so to speak, taking a fucking eraser to it and erasing whatever the hell they feel like erasing, then replacing it with their own stuff.

They don't even have to interact with you in any way - When Wanda went 'no more mutants', she not only reset the HoM verse to the regular 616 verse, but she also nuked the powers of MUTANTS THAT HAD CEASED TO EXIST IN THAT REALITY, before they were even restored. Basically, she rewrote the entirety of the MU, with everyone in it - except mutants were 'rewritten' in completely devoid of any powers due to the mass reset.

To put it bluntly, Touma's Imagine Breaker power is useless, because any decent Marvel reality warper will simply make his own power cease to exist. They CAn do that - they depower people all the fucking time. Whether they get better or not is due to plot, but saying they can't do it when they do it all the time...

Hell, the Aquarian alone would completely shut down Touma, since Aquarian's power is explicitly stated as negating every other power around him,. no exception (he even shut down the POWER COSMIC; for God's sake!). And Wundarr is a midcarder treehugging hippie hero whom nobody cares about.

 

[Aegis]

See, the problem is that Marvel reality warpers tend to be on another level from ones from ToAru. When they affect something, the effects of their screwing around is felt across the entire omniverse - there's a reason why the Living Tribunal massively frowns on those activities. In their case, they can literally completely erase the very concept of your power from the fabric of reality - meaning they could turn Touma's ass into an unpowered, common person with nothing special one.

It's kind of like Shiki's Mystic Eyes of Death perception, only on massive crack. When a Marvel reality warper dicks around, they are more or less taking the Book of the Universe, so to speak, taking a fucking eraser to it and erasing whatever the hell they feel like erasing, then replacing it with their own stuff.

They don't even have to interact with you in any way - When Wanda went 'no more mutants', she not only reset the HoM verse to the regular 616 verse, but she also nuked the powers of MUTANTS THAT HAD CEASED TO EXIST IN THAT REALITY, before they were even restored. Basically, she rewrote the entirety of the MU, with everyone in it - except mutants were 'rewritten' in completely devoid of any powers due to the mass reset.

To put it bluntly, Touma's Imagine Breaker power is useless, because any decent Marvel reality warper will simply make his own power cease to exist. They CAn do that - they depower people all the fucking time. Whether they get better or not is due to plot, but saying they can't do it when they do it all the time...

Hell, the Aquarian alone would completely shut down Touma, since Aquarian's power is explicitly stated as negating every other power around him,. no exception (he even shut down the POWER COSMIC; for God's sake!). And Wundarr is a midcarder treehugging hippie hero whom nobody cares about.

Look to make it clear, Touma's ability is that of not being affected by ANYTHING supernatural in any manner or form as well as erasing or disrupting it. At the moment Touma would get killed off easy by anything not going for his hand, by that I mean at the current level of the power his body covers. When I say he is not affected by a spell that changed the world(we don't know how much further it reaches either way) I also mean that not only was his position in the world not changed, but that his conciousness, which was at this point in time not a body part covered by his own power was in any way affected, changed or anything. Meaning it affects neither body nor mind. Now I've told you it affects anything supernatural, but it also affects anything made by science, fucking with it to hell and back. Another thing it completely screws over is his own luck and nobody can heal him magically either. I've read up on Wundarr and his state of being is exactly the kind of shit that gets itself nulled out by Touma, even at his normal base level. To put it simply if Touma's ability is allowed to evolve and develop and he is not trained somehow in how to control it, he'll become something like Shiki on world ending crack and a walking Apocalypse capable of, and again I say this, killing off the planet by stepping on the wrong place. Hell even his arm alone can develop the potential to end life not through death, but denial. I get where you come from, the Marvel-verse is damn broken and I seriously doubt anyone but the extreme Aces would be able to survive in such a place. But credit should be given where credit is due. Touma is by no means some sort of powerless infant and neither are Accelerator, Index's Johann's Pen mode, The Pope and Crowley, along with some other characters. Touma's power has also been used to wtfpwn Lucifer and other than that apparently holds the power of Miracles, what that means for Touma I have no idea.

As it stands right now Touma doesn't have much of a fighting chance against some Marvel if not quite a few of them, but he still wouldn't be affected by any change in reality warping. The "Power Cosmic" is something Touma can erase or at least null out on touch. Angels like Gabriel, who's 4 attacks consist on gigantic land vanquishing ones based on elemental damage or simply destroying half or all of earth with a single word are physically afraid of touching him at all and Saints hold this fear within them as well. Alister Crowley, the same guy who's reached immortality and also reached what is basically the peak of both the science and magical worlds and has orchestrated every single event in the series as well as predicted their turnouts as well as possible interferances declares Touma capable of affecting meaningfully 97% of his plans and has him classified by default, even when he's not actively being a threat, a DEFCON 3 level Menace to Academy City. Again I'm not saying anything in To Aru is a "be all end all" factor. But I don't like it being dismissed outright either without any sense of validation at all. Oh and currently Touma's power is being held back by "something", seeing as it only takes away his own luck, unlike before(it's mentioned to have also taken the luck of all those around him). And unlike outer appearances Touma is indeed extremely smart both in and out of battle, able to carry out calculations in order to fight.

Lol, interesting fact I found, his last name means "The person higher than God (La persona superiore a Dio)" and his first name means "One that cleanses God and exorcises the Devil". If that's not symbolism or outright foreshadowing then I don't know what is.

Also the thing about Touma's power is that they exist on another spectrum from any magical or supernatural power. It literally cannot be perceived or sense, by machinery or through a sensor type ESPER. They cannot be "measured" one way or the other.

 

[Reimu]

Sorry, I can't buy that GenocideHeart. While Touma would get crushed by the high level reality warpers, they wouldn't be able to take away his powers.

Even the reality warpers in Marvel leave me unimpressed storywise sometimes. Seriously, I go crazy Wanda made me lol.

While Marvel does have a much higher power scale than To Aru, there are a whole bunch of not top tier characters as well that are relevant.

 

[Aegis]

Sorry, I can't buy that GenocideHeart. While Touma would get crushed by the high level reality warpers, they wouldn't be able to take away his powers.

Even the reality warpers in Marvel leave me unimpressed storywise sometimes. Seriously, I go crazy Wanda made me lol.

While Marvel does have a much higher power scale than To Aru, there are a whole bunch of not top tier characters as well that are relevant.

What about Aiwass? And FUSE=Kazakiri? They're both pretty damn strong.

 

[Reimu]

Sorry, I can't buy that GenocideHeart.? While Touma would get crushed by the high level reality warpers, they wouldn't be able to take away his powers.?

Even the reality warpers in Marvel leave me unimpressed storywise sometimes.? Seriously, I go crazy Wanda made me lol.?

While Marvel does have a much higher power scale than To Aru, there are a whole bunch of not top tier characters as well that are relevant.

What about Aiwass? And FUSE=Kazakiri? They're both pretty damn strong.

Oh they are are strong. It's just that the Marvel universe got some people really high up there. Galaxy busting people and I create universes.
The thing is a lot of them AREN'T nearly as strong. You have got people all over the place in terms of powers from street level who take out regular thugs to the top people like The one above all, but he doesn't get into conflicts usually anyways.

 

[Aegis]

Sorry, I can't buy that GenocideHeart.á While Touma would get crushed by the high level reality warpers, they wouldn't be able to take away his powers.á

Even the reality warpers in Marvel leave me unimpressed storywise sometimes.á Seriously, I go crazy Wanda made me lol.á

While Marvel does have a much higher power scale than To Aru, there are a whole bunch of not top tier characters as well that are relevant.

What about Aiwass? And FUSE=Kazakiri? They're both pretty damn strong.

Oh they are are strong. It's just that the Marvel universe got some people really high up there. Galaxy busting people and I create universes.
The thing is a lot of them AREN'T nearly as strong. You have got people all over the place in terms of powers from street level who take out regular thugs to the top people like The one above all, but he doesn't get into conflicts usually anyways.

Yeah, to be fair unless a lot of them hit the Awakening stage, where they reach Angelic level powers, they won't be touching the same tier as some of the characters. Touma himself needs to awaken already.

 

[A Curious Stranger]

Touma himself needs to awaken already.

Touma's power evolution pattern is such that if it's allowed to grow he'll end up like Shiki, only worse. Touma will be enabled to cancel out life, and view the planet's Ley Lines. Meaning he can just bend down, touch and kill everything with a single thought.........or accidentally step on it since by then it will have covered his entire body.

You're giving me mixed messages here dude.