Mass Effect 3

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Graybox

A graybox is, essentially, a collection of snapshots of a person's memories. While originally developed to help treat Alzheimer's, the dangerous side-effects from the implant procedure (should the graybox either need to be removed for maintenance purposes or if it developed software bugs, extensive brain damage would occur) ultimately restricted its use to researchers and intragalactic spies. When a graybox is accessed by a specialized reader, the collection of memories contained within appear as snapshots, while the memory being viewed is played as a video.
 
I'm looking for a fan trailer I saw a LONG time ago. It was pre-release of ME3, and I think it was even pre-release of any actual trailer of ME3.

Basically, the trailer is a longish voice over by Sovereign I believe. It is going through the speech it gave in ME, though there may have been added lines in the same voice. It's speech ends with, " our numbers will darken sky of every world" and then the trailer goes into standard fanfare and "epic" music showing scenes from the second game I think, or the earliest scenes of ME3 that were available.

It wasn't a long trailer at all. 3 minutes at the most, but I remember getting chills because it was the first time I'd actually heard Sovereign.
#ps3problems.

If anyone knows what I'm talking about and can find me a link, I would be grateful.
 
Its seems like it COULD be that one, but for some reason it's not pinging my memory. I'm not sure.
 

biomonkey

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Just going through ME3 again and realizing that I don't like Liara... at all. And the more I think on why I don't like her, the more my distaste grows. Keep in mind it's not to the level of Ashley (who I am orchestrating to have killed in the Udina scene) but still up there.

The big thing is her voice. Of all the Normandy crews, through all the games, hers is the worst. It's just overly breathy and monotonous, and when she gives the "weapon of unquantifiable levels of destruction" line to Hackett I cringe every time. It's just so lifeless, and I think that's a major reason for my dislike.

The second is her transformation between ME1 and ME2. I'm not ragging on what was once a damsel in distress becoming self-sufficient and powerful, since lord knows there aren't enough of said women in gaming. But the freaking whiplash I got from her character change between games.

The rest of the cast evolved in a way that was consistent considering Shepard's fate. Garrus became even more of a Cowboy Cop, Wrex went on to unite the Krogan, Tali went back to the flotilla and started he way into becoming a leader.

Liara becomes a ruthless information broker dedicating years of her life to hunt down the Shadow Broker for capturing a guy she new for a week or so...

Liara... incredibly naive and socially awkward Liara... managing to stay free of all the manipulations that could occur on Ilium and become a master at it herself in less than two years.

I'm not buying it.

Am I wrong in thinking this?
 
Lets be fair. If I was a voice actor and I was given that script that was to conclude a trilogy I had ADORED, I'd be pretty lifeless too.


I don't mind Liara at all, but that was because to me, the incredibly naive and socially awkward Liara was the one that poked me the wrong way. Since #ps3problems meant that the first game I played was two, I was introduced to her as the badass, instead of as the damsel.

I barely played One, to be honest. The gameplay was just too jarring to me, after having played Two for weeks upon weeks on end. I have, however, watched every cutscene in one on youtube at least half a dozen times.


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Someone in the past mentioned that before discovering the outpost on Mars, Humanity had been working on their own method of FTL travel, that was then summarily discarded once the working Mass Effect FTL technology was uncovered.

Is this Canon, or was that person talking out of their ass?


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Is there anyone here who is a fan of both Mass Effect and Harry Potter that is willing to enter a discussion? I'm planning out a crossover for the two series, and I've hit a bit of a brick wall atm. The story will cover many years Prior to ME1, and I've got that stuff essentially on lock, but I'm having problems on how to go about planning it WITHOUT marginalizing Shepard in ME. I don't think I'll have as many problems once I get to ME2, but for now, vast swaths of the story in ME1 is giving me a bit of a hard time?

Anyone willing butt heads with me over it?
 

shinzero01

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biomonkey said:
Just going through ME3 again and realizing that I don't like Liara... at all. And the more I think on why I don't like her, the more my distaste grows. Keep in mind it's not to the level of Ashley (who I am orchestrating to have killed in the Udina scene) but still up there.

The big thing is her voice. Of all the Normandy crews, through all the games, hers is the worst. It's just overly breathy and monotonous, and when she gives the "weapon of unquantifiable levels of destruction" line to Hackett I cringe every time. It's just so lifeless, and I think that's a major reason for my dislike.

The second is her transformation between ME1 and ME2. I'm not ragging on what was once a damsel in distress becoming self-sufficient and powerful, since lord knows there aren't enough of said women in gaming. But the freaking whiplash I got from her character change between games.

The rest of the cast evolved in a way that was consistent considering Shepard's fate. Garrus became even more of a Cowboy Cop, Wrex went on to unite the Krogan, Tali went back to the flotilla and started he way into becoming a leader.

Liara becomes a ruthless information broker dedicating years of her life to hunt down the Shadow Broker for capturing a guy she new for a week or so...

Liara... incredibly naive and socially awkward Liara... managing to stay free of all the manipulations that could occur on Ilium and become a master at it herself in less than two years.

I'm not buying it.

Am I wrong in thinking this?
Keep in mind that Liara also had an issue with the Shadow Broker having Shepard's body taken from Alchera(?) in the first place and then selling it to the Collectors like some trophy. That Drell being taken was the icing on the cake when it came to reasons for Liara to hate the Shadow Broker. I also thought there was the implication that she had several altercations with the Shadow Broker's agents in the time between the retrieval of Shepard's body and the events of ME2.
 

Kibbles

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ArchfiendRai said:
Someone in the past mentioned that before discovering the outpost on Mars, Humanity had been working on their own method of FTL travel, that was then summarily discarded once the working Mass Effect FTL technology was uncovered.

Is this Canon, or was that person talking out of their ass?
Yes and no. It's canon that humanity had a facility dedicated to FTL research, a space station in the outer solar system. What is not canon is that they made any progress towards anything at all.

They shut down the station because humanity got FTL and, therefore, the very probably highly theoretical and, more likely, largely based on guesswork research became unnecessary.
 

grant

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shinzero01 said:
biomonkey said:
Just going through ME3 again and realizing that I don't like Liara... at all. And the more I think on why I don't like her, the more my distaste grows. Keep in mind it's not to the level of Ashley (who I am orchestrating to have killed in the Udina scene) but still up there.

The big thing is her voice. Of all the Normandy crews, through all the games, hers is the worst. It's just overly breathy and monotonous, and when she gives the "weapon of unquantifiable levels of destruction" line to Hackett I cringe every time. It's just so lifeless, and I think that's a major reason for my dislike.

The second is her transformation between ME1 and ME2. I'm not ragging on what was once a damsel in distress becoming self-sufficient and powerful, since lord knows there aren't enough of said women in gaming. But the freaking whiplash I got from her character change between games.

The rest of the cast evolved in a way that was consistent considering Shepard's fate. Garrus became even more of a Cowboy Cop, Wrex went on to unite the Krogan, Tali went back to the flotilla and started he way into becoming a leader.

Liara becomes a ruthless information broker dedicating years of her life to hunt down the Shadow Broker for capturing a guy she new for a week or so...

Liara... incredibly naive and socially awkward Liara... managing to stay free of all the manipulations that could occur on Ilium and become a master at it herself in less than two years.

I'm not buying it.

Am I wrong in thinking this?
Keep in mind that Liara also had an issue with the Shadow Broker having Shepard's body taken from Alchera(?) in the first place and then selling it to the Collectors like some trophy. That Drell being taken was the icing on the cake when it came to reasons for Liara to hate the Shadow Broker. I also thought there was the implication that she had several altercations with the Shadow Broker's agents in the time between the retrieval of Shepard's body and the events of ME2.
Liara has reason to hate the Shadow Broker, but what I call bull on is Liara turning into this manipulative underworld genius. As always, the guy who did Renegade Reinterpretations had a much more interesting take on it (Garrus, Tali and Liara team up to get Shepard's body back).

As for Liara's voice, I found it annoying but I thought that was supposed to be alien. Though, now that I think about it, Liara's parents and Samara's kids didn't have that monotone.
 
Rising Dragon said:
And yet everyone else is head-over-heels for Liara for unexplainable reasons. Hmm.
If you're talking about the fans, it's explainable enough, she's the resident genre-typical blue alien chick.
 

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LightningHunter said:
Rising Dragon said:
And yet everyone else is head-over-heels for Liara for unexplainable reasons. Hmm.
If you're talking about the fans, it's explainable enough, she's the resident genre-typical blue alien chick.
That plus the fact Tali and her hips weren't romanceable until ME 2 makes Liara the best...I mean the fan favorite.
 

grant

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Ordo said:
LightningHunter said:
Rising Dragon said:
And yet everyone else is head-over-heels for Liara for unexplainable reasons. Hmm.
If you're talking about the fans, it's explainable enough, she's the resident genre-typical blue alien chick.
That plus the fact Tali and her hips weren't romanceable until ME 2 makes Liara the best...I mean the fan favorite.
Actually, looking back over my time playing the games I feel I had problems with both of 'em. And Ash. And Jack and Miranda. And Samara (not counting Morinth as one). And Diana. And on the male side I had problems with Jacob and Thane.
Basically what I'm saying is that ultimately I only wanted to romance Kelly (surprisingly I didn't get disgusted with her, I just think the writers were clearly trying too hard to make her appealing), Kaidan, Garrus, Samantha and Steve (more Sam than Steve).
 
I've only played the first two games, and Kelly was the one I wanted to. I didn't find her unappealing, really. That said, I tried to keep out of a romance with Ashley (not out of dislike, I preferred Kelly) and yet somehow ended up on the romance path with her. I found that irritating. That it bloody well happened again with Jack was just as irritating, as I couldn't finish any of the dialogue events with Jack. Because doing so triggers the romance with Jack... and I preferred Kelly.

Irritating as shit. Did ME3 have any romance character they forced you into?
 

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Odd, I never had any trouble avoiding Jack's romance path while learning about her. In fact I recall there's a part where she says "If this is about sex, just say so." and I think the response "I'm not looking for that" allows you o avoid a romance while still being friends.
 

grant

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Ordo said:
Odd, I never had any trouble avoiding Jack's romance path while learning about her. In fact I recall there's a part where she says "If this is about sex, just say so." and I think the response "I'm not looking for that" allows you o avoid a romance while still being friends.
I thought that was what you said to actually continue on her romance path.
 

Ordo

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Perhaps it was "Never mind" but I don't recall triggering the romance accidentally
 
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