This actually does go a long way towards explaining the unusual abilities of some of the Mane 6. Such as Pinkie's various weird senses, Dash's Rainboom, Fluttershy's Earth-pony-esque tendencies. The Apples have already been noted to have... erhm... contact with Princess Celestia in the past. While in Rarity's case it wouldn't be too unusual to assume that she's had at least one unicorn ancestor from Canterlot who had... relations with the Princess and possibly got sent into "exile" to Ponyville to end up raising Rarity's ancestors.
My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic Idea Megathread
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*Later*
"Spike?" A voice calls out, and the small purple dragon frantically tries to stuff something under his bed. "Spiiiike!"
Twilight comes into the room and looks at the sweating dragon. "Did that letter from Celestia arrive yet? I know the last one mentioned your father, but it was sparse on the details."
"Oh, not yet!" He answers nervously, pushing the object farther under the bed.
"All right then! Tell me when it gets here!" Twilight turns and begins to walk away.
The small dragon nods and looks behind him at the book still peeking out from his bed. '1000 and 1 ways to charm the mares of your dreams'. A note on the bottom states simply 'Up and at em son!'
"Spike?" A voice calls out, and the small purple dragon frantically tries to stuff something under his bed. "Spiiiike!"
Twilight comes into the room and looks at the sweating dragon. "Did that letter from Celestia arrive yet? I know the last one mentioned your father, but it was sparse on the details."
"Oh, not yet!" He answers nervously, pushing the object farther under the bed.
"All right then! Tell me when it gets here!" Twilight turns and begins to walk away.
The small dragon nods and looks behind him at the book still peeking out from his bed. '1000 and 1 ways to charm the mares of your dreams'. A note on the bottom states simply 'Up and at em son!'
One thing about Discord always bugged me.
Why does he suck so bad at the spirit of chaos thing?
He picks something, then does the same thing to it, over and over.
ALL THE CLOUDS are now cotton candy.
ALL THE RAIN is now chocolate milk.
ALL THE HEROES get their personalities reversed.
MIX IT UP SOME, DAMN, AT LEAST TURN SOME OF THE CLOUDS INTO THE BLUE COTTON CANDY, WHERE IS YOUR 'A' MATERIAL? THIS SHIT WAS CLICHE THE LAST TIME YOU WERE FREE, SHOW ME SOMETHING NEW! :Heckles:
Why does he suck so bad at the spirit of chaos thing?
He picks something, then does the same thing to it, over and over.
ALL THE CLOUDS are now cotton candy.
ALL THE RAIN is now chocolate milk.
ALL THE HEROES get their personalities reversed.
MIX IT UP SOME, DAMN, AT LEAST TURN SOME OF THE CLOUDS INTO THE BLUE COTTON CANDY, WHERE IS YOUR 'A' MATERIAL? THIS SHIT WAS CLICHE THE LAST TIME YOU WERE FREE, SHOW ME SOMETHING NEW! :Heckles:
Spike as Celestia's biological son? Yes please.
Which could make things potentially awkward with the Mane Six when they find out.
*post-GGG*
Twilight: Spike? What are you doing?
Spike: Family tradition. After every gala we get some donuts, coffee, hot chocolate and make fun of the guests. Cady does a great Jet Set impression.
AJ: Family tradition?
Celestia *teleports in*: Did you get the jelly ones, dear?
Spike: Yup, and cinammon ones for Bluey. What does Aunt Lulu like? I got her the chocolate fudge.
Mane Six: *jaw drop*
Which could make things potentially awkward with the Mane Six when they find out.
*post-GGG*
Twilight: Spike? What are you doing?
Spike: Family tradition. After every gala we get some donuts, coffee, hot chocolate and make fun of the guests. Cady does a great Jet Set impression.
AJ: Family tradition?
Celestia *teleports in*: Did you get the jelly ones, dear?
Spike: Yup, and cinammon ones for Bluey. What does Aunt Lulu like? I got her the chocolate fudge.
Mane Six: *jaw drop*
Given all the "Rainbow Dash MUST be gay" crap in the fandom (despite Lauren Faust herself saying she HATES the 'tomboy is gay' trope), it might be amusing if Rainbow Dash isn't actually gay at all. Rather, she's the one going after guys the most of all the Mane 6 to the point Rarity would feel like an old prude.
Thinking over Rainbow Dash in a relationship type thing, in terms of what would be interesting for a story and in terms of her character, here's my thoughts on it:
I see her as initially liable to go after the flashy sort of guy. Possibly even someone like her. Athletic, cocksure, maybe a little arrogant. The problem there is that it's going to turn competitive. They're not going to end up being able to let it go. They're going to keep striving against one another and pulling apart in a game of childish one-up-manship that's going to turn ugly really quick.
I can see this as a repeating pattern for her initially. The quickest way to avoid it getting ugly though? Would be to keep it casual. Keep the relationship shallow and just at the 'friends hanging out' or 'casual romp' type relationships without any deeper emotional meaning. Because otherwise it starts getting too intense and then boom. The whole thing blows up in her face.
That is IF the 'competition' and 'dominance' portions are being done in the field that she has her self-image invested in, such as flying and athletics. On the other hand, a relationship becomes possible if she has it with someone who doesn't threaten her self-image. Someone who is able to assert over her in a field that she does not strive in. Maybe it's intellectual pursuits. Maybe it's something else, but as long as she doesn't get faced directly in the area that she's poured her heart and soul into, it's got a much better chance of succeeding and growing into something meaningful.
Admittedly, that kind of pony might not be her first choice to be her special somepony.
It would have to be someone who isn't insecure about their capabilities. Maybe someone really well grounded. Someone who knows who they are and what their role in the world is. That could be someone she could build something with, but at the same time, ironically, they wouldn't be flashy enough for her. At least at the beginning.
So it'll be like reading all over again
Her insisting that she's not into that kind of person, but then realizing that it's exactly what she needs.
...
The more I think about this, the more Big Mac seems to be presenting himself as the ideal based on this analysis.
Not sure how that happened.
I see her as initially liable to go after the flashy sort of guy. Possibly even someone like her. Athletic, cocksure, maybe a little arrogant. The problem there is that it's going to turn competitive. They're not going to end up being able to let it go. They're going to keep striving against one another and pulling apart in a game of childish one-up-manship that's going to turn ugly really quick.
I can see this as a repeating pattern for her initially. The quickest way to avoid it getting ugly though? Would be to keep it casual. Keep the relationship shallow and just at the 'friends hanging out' or 'casual romp' type relationships without any deeper emotional meaning. Because otherwise it starts getting too intense and then boom. The whole thing blows up in her face.
That is IF the 'competition' and 'dominance' portions are being done in the field that she has her self-image invested in, such as flying and athletics. On the other hand, a relationship becomes possible if she has it with someone who doesn't threaten her self-image. Someone who is able to assert over her in a field that she does not strive in. Maybe it's intellectual pursuits. Maybe it's something else, but as long as she doesn't get faced directly in the area that she's poured her heart and soul into, it's got a much better chance of succeeding and growing into something meaningful.
Admittedly, that kind of pony might not be her first choice to be her special somepony.
It would have to be someone who isn't insecure about their capabilities. Maybe someone really well grounded. Someone who knows who they are and what their role in the world is. That could be someone she could build something with, but at the same time, ironically, they wouldn't be flashy enough for her. At least at the beginning.
So it'll be like reading all over again
Her insisting that she's not into that kind of person, but then realizing that it's exactly what she needs.
...
The more I think about this, the more Big Mac seems to be presenting himself as the ideal based on this analysis.
Not sure how that happened.
Actually, Big Mac seems a pretty solid fit for all of the ladies in his own way. Most of them girls are rather flighty in their ways, how Rarity is the dramatic fashionista to Pinkie Pie's manic behaviour, while he is a solidly grounded person who has shown great patience and calm in many of the situations he's been in. Hell, he'd even be good for Fluttershy, him being able to support her and maybe help with her shyness.
Actually brings out a random plot bunny to my head, where the girls find out Mac's more the brains that help keep the farm on its hooves. Even graduated 'Summa cum trotte' in that fancy school he went to. Weather that'd make him a part time scientist, which explains why the barn keeps getting destroyed, or just a real business virtuoso would be up to whoever adopted said plot bunny.
Actually brings out a random plot bunny to my head, where the girls find out Mac's more the brains that help keep the farm on its hooves. Even graduated 'Summa cum trotte' in that fancy school he went to. Weather that'd make him a part time scientist, which explains why the barn keeps getting destroyed, or just a real business virtuoso would be up to whoever adopted said plot bunny.
Well, that remark AJ gave about Big Mac's "fancy mathematics" make me inclined to lean towards hm being the business genius keeping the farm afloat. It's why Granny's so relaxed. She knows when the time comes the farm's going to be in Big Mac's hands and everything's going to be just fine.
As for Flutters and Mac, there actually is a fairly good fic out there where Mac and Fluttershy are Scootaloo's parents. Flutters in the fic is older than the rest of the Mane 6, but the whole thing's cute.
As for Flutters and Mac, there actually is a fairly good fic out there where Mac and Fluttershy are Scootaloo's parents. Flutters in the fic is older than the rest of the Mane 6, but the whole thing's cute.
Fluttershy is also a year older then Rainbow Dash, it's why in the Cutie Mark Chronicles her wings used the adult folding method but Filly Dash used the filly method.
It's safe to assume Fluttershy is the oldest actually.
Presumably her being held back a year is part of why she was being made fun of.
And yeah, the main cast seem to be a bit past the filly stage, Fillies become Mares on their fourth birthday, so they're probably 8-9 in age range, in real horse/pony years that's about late teens.
Equine pregnancy lasts 11 months, females reach sexual maturity at 18 months, but its unsafe for them to get pregnant until they're 4, to give birth at 5, Mating season for Mares is the summer roughly from March to October, and is triggered by prolonged exposure to sunlight (And suddenly everyone's love of Celestia a thousand years ago makes sense).
So Fluttershy is more then old enough to have a foal.
Then again, Scootaloo is near old enough to have a foal herself, so...
It's safe to assume Fluttershy is the oldest actually.
Presumably her being held back a year is part of why she was being made fun of.
And yeah, the main cast seem to be a bit past the filly stage, Fillies become Mares on their fourth birthday, so they're probably 8-9 in age range, in real horse/pony years that's about late teens.
Equine pregnancy lasts 11 months, females reach sexual maturity at 18 months, but its unsafe for them to get pregnant until they're 4, to give birth at 5, Mating season for Mares is the summer roughly from March to October, and is triggered by prolonged exposure to sunlight (And suddenly everyone's love of Celestia a thousand years ago makes sense).
So Fluttershy is more then old enough to have a foal.
Then again, Scootaloo is near old enough to have a foal herself, so...
One fic's headcanon was that ponies measured their age in seasons rather than years, because they live about as long as real life ponies/horses.
On the topic of Scootaloo, there's a Teen Titans cross out there (seemingly solely based on the fact that Twilight Sparkle and Raven are both voiced by Tara Strong) which has Cyborg in Rainbow Dash's body reveal that Scootaloo is homeless. Later, when the two finally talk about it, Scootaloo says her parents are in the Fillydelphia Sanitarium.
On the topic of Scootaloo, there's a Teen Titans cross out there (seemingly solely based on the fact that Twilight Sparkle and Raven are both voiced by Tara Strong) which has Cyborg in Rainbow Dash's body reveal that Scootaloo is homeless. Later, when the two finally talk about it, Scootaloo says her parents are in the Fillydelphia Sanitarium.
...
And suddenly, knowing the trigger for the estrous cycle, I now realize that Daymare Sun's eternal day would at first lead to constantly horny Mares.
Before all the water dries up and it gets so hot everyone dies and all the plants burst into flames anyway.
Oh well, the dragons get a happy end at least.
Pitiful Herbivores and Carnivores, Lifivores (Mineral eaters) got it made, bitches.
EVEN WHEN THE GROUND IS LITERALLY LAVA, WE'RE STILL ALIVE. SOUP'S ON EVERYDRAGON.
STAYIN ALIVE, STAYIN ALIVE, AH AH AH AH STAYIN ALIVE~
Hell, they'd probably survive the eternal night to, since they can generate heat from nothing internally, and again, their primary food source is utterly unaffected by every other living thing flora and fauna alike dieing.
EDIT: Also, we actually did an experiment with a climate model once to see what would happen if the sun just disappeared, bringing eternal night.
Global temperature dropped to an average of 270 degree's below zero in seven days. Only the oceans with their huge stores of heat had any heat left in them, and they froze and died a bit afterwords.
Nightmare Moon, your plan needed work, since no one's gonna appreciate the night if everyone who isn't a dragon is dead.
Also even if that wasn't a problem, it's still a bad idea because... "Absence makes the heart grow fonder, but familiarity breeds contempt".
If you want someone to appreciate something, you don't jam their faces into it.
You take it away until they beg for it back.
And suddenly, knowing the trigger for the estrous cycle, I now realize that Daymare Sun's eternal day would at first lead to constantly horny Mares.
Before all the water dries up and it gets so hot everyone dies and all the plants burst into flames anyway.
Oh well, the dragons get a happy end at least.
Pitiful Herbivores and Carnivores, Lifivores (Mineral eaters) got it made, bitches.
EVEN WHEN THE GROUND IS LITERALLY LAVA, WE'RE STILL ALIVE. SOUP'S ON EVERYDRAGON.
STAYIN ALIVE, STAYIN ALIVE, AH AH AH AH STAYIN ALIVE~
Hell, they'd probably survive the eternal night to, since they can generate heat from nothing internally, and again, their primary food source is utterly unaffected by every other living thing flora and fauna alike dieing.
EDIT: Also, we actually did an experiment with a climate model once to see what would happen if the sun just disappeared, bringing eternal night.
Global temperature dropped to an average of 270 degree's below zero in seven days. Only the oceans with their huge stores of heat had any heat left in them, and they froze and died a bit afterwords.
Nightmare Moon, your plan needed work, since no one's gonna appreciate the night if everyone who isn't a dragon is dead.
Also even if that wasn't a problem, it's still a bad idea because... "Absence makes the heart grow fonder, but familiarity breeds contempt".
If you want someone to appreciate something, you don't jam their faces into it.
You take it away until they beg for it back.
Fic idea: When Nightmare Moon returns from the moon, Celestia expects her sister to confront her as a mad tyrant.
Unfortunately, one thousand years on the Moon have had another effect - Luna used that time to think back on her misdeeds and was left to ruminate on her depression and loneliness.
When Luna returns, she's a severely depressed wreck who can't be half-arsed to fight or bring about "Night Eternal". Instead, she just hides in the ruins of the old castle in the Everfree.
Unfortunately, one thousand years on the Moon have had another effect - Luna used that time to think back on her misdeeds and was left to ruminate on her depression and loneliness.
When Luna returns, she's a severely depressed wreck who can't be half-arsed to fight or bring about "Night Eternal". Instead, she just hides in the ruins of the old castle in the Everfree.
Also, a bit more on Celestia's Family...
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Shining Armor woke up with a snort and reached around for his wife sleepily, before he realized that not only was his wife not there, but he wasn't exactly in any position to move around.
Especially with the huge gardening shears just inches away from his wedding tackle.
"Hello, cousin-in-law."
"Buh - Blueblood? What in Tartarus is this?"
The glow around the prince's horn looked eerily similar to the one around the shears. "Do you remember what I told before the wedding, if you didn't do right by my baby cousin?"
Shining's eyelid twitched. "Yeah, something about...snip...snip..." He turned pale.
"So not only do I find out that you threw Cady off your balcony, you also got my youngest cousin involved, and he was thrown off a tower."
"Uh...I can explain?"
"Not good enough, cousin-in-law. Time for a little trim."
It was minutes later that Cadance burst in, only to find her husband unconscious and her cousin idly packing away some shears. "What on Eque...BLUEY! What did you do to...Shi...ny..." She stared at her husband's mane.
Stared some more.
And collapsed laughing.
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Shining Armor woke up with a snort and reached around for his wife sleepily, before he realized that not only was his wife not there, but he wasn't exactly in any position to move around.
Especially with the huge gardening shears just inches away from his wedding tackle.
"Hello, cousin-in-law."
"Buh - Blueblood? What in Tartarus is this?"
The glow around the prince's horn looked eerily similar to the one around the shears. "Do you remember what I told before the wedding, if you didn't do right by my baby cousin?"
Shining's eyelid twitched. "Yeah, something about...snip...snip..." He turned pale.
"So not only do I find out that you threw Cady off your balcony, you also got my youngest cousin involved, and he was thrown off a tower."
"Uh...I can explain?"
"Not good enough, cousin-in-law. Time for a little trim."
It was minutes later that Cadance burst in, only to find her husband unconscious and her cousin idly packing away some shears. "What on Eque...BLUEY! What did you do to...Shi...ny..." She stared at her husband's mane.
Stared some more.
And collapsed laughing.