Naruto Naruto Canon Twists
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knight504 said:
Hm. I'm now imagining Sakura as the canon equivalent of Kurama Yakumo...
A genjutsu specialist who could trick the brain into believing the illusions are real and had a second, aggressive personality.
A genjutsu specialist who could trick the brain into believing the illusions are real and had a second, aggressive personality.
Also if the aggressive personality/ID can manifest itself like it did for Yakumo, then wouldn't Sakura's Inner Sakura been a much bigger problem? A split personality that can access your skills and such...?
AJ_Katon said:
knight504 said:
Hm. I'm now imagining Sakura as the canon equivalent of Kurama Yakumo...
A genjutsu specialist who could trick the brain into believing the illusions are real and had a second, aggressive personality.
A genjutsu specialist who could trick the brain into believing the illusions are real and had a second, aggressive personality.
Also if the aggressive personality/ID can manifest itself like it did for Yakumo, then wouldn't Sakura's Inner Sakura been a much bigger problem? A split personality that can access your skills and such...?
Like Outer Sakura being the illusionist and Inner Sakura being the fighter, one half of the psyche specialising in one area over another. Shame she couldn't have gone the same route as Abyss and Sakurako (that name...) which would have been a wee bit too similar to our protagonist's signature stye. She'd have to stick with the switcheroo routine.
Or do some kind of mental fusion dance and combine the best of both worlds.
Or do some kind of mental fusion dance and combine the best of both worlds.
I would have liked to see more of Jiraiya as a mentor. Make it so post time skip Naruto feels a bit insecure that he hasn't surpassed Jiraiya, even when he defeats a foe the other couldn't (Pain).
Then actually revive Jiraiya as a zombie and Naruto settles the question by defeating him which sends him to rest
Then actually revive Jiraiya as a zombie and Naruto settles the question by defeating him which sends him to rest
That would have been nice. Or have Nagato make Jiraiya's corpse into a Path of Pein. That would have been seriously mind screwy.
I would have loved to see Naruto and Tsunade go at it. Like Madara/Tobi managed to catch Tsunade off-guard and make her think Naruto is Madara, so she goes full on kill mode. Yes, Naruto would have lost, but I'd have loved it if he managed to last a while, and even managed to knock Tsunade around a little, before bringing her out of it.
Alternatively, Naruto VS. Zombie!Sarutobi, Zombie!Minato, or Zombie!Kushina.
I would have loved to see Naruto and Tsunade go at it. Like Madara/Tobi managed to catch Tsunade off-guard and make her think Naruto is Madara, so she goes full on kill mode. Yes, Naruto would have lost, but I'd have loved it if he managed to last a while, and even managed to knock Tsunade around a little, before bringing her out of it.
Alternatively, Naruto VS. Zombie!Sarutobi, Zombie!Minato, or Zombie!Kushina.
Well, in a sense, he did struggle with dark!Naruto for most of the series, as he was the negative aspects of himself. The distrustful, loathing, vengeful parts of him that the present-day Naruto unconsciously shut out, all that stuff was what had been instilled into him from birth till the Wave mission. Though we don't see him battling with it in a physical meaning, we do see its presence in other ways -- when Hinata first tried to help Naruto cheat during the Chunin Exams, he was deeply suspicious of her motives in helping him. The first time he discovered that the village had come to love him was after he defeated Pain, and his mind was completely blown, even though we've seen that Naruto had been steadily gaining respect, understanding, and sympathy from the village since he turned genin. And even with that knowledge, the moment someone came up to him looking for an autograph, it threw him, and not for the right reason, so he still held onto feelings of mistrust and contempt towards the village, even though they now accepted him.
Dark!Naruto wasn't so much a separate personality or spirit as he was just an aspect of Naruto given form at the Waterfall that was, overall, a serious security flaw that the Fox could backdoor his way through and defeat Naruto in their upcoming battle for the Fox's chakra. Otherwise, we'd have to concern ourselves with Dark!Guy as well.
Dark!Naruto wasn't so much a separate personality or spirit as he was just an aspect of Naruto given form at the Waterfall that was, overall, a serious security flaw that the Fox could backdoor his way through and defeat Naruto in their upcoming battle for the Fox's chakra. Otherwise, we'd have to concern ourselves with Dark!Guy as well.
Not that dealing with Dark Naruto actually did anything to help. Naruto still had enough hatred for Kurama to influence him and would have needed saving by his mother regardless. Makes that entire sequence with the Falls of Truth feel pointless to me.
Well hugging your own dark side doesn't mean you're done with it. As Naruto said, he had to accept it was there. Did he go deeper into his hatred or anything? Its pretty much shonen magic to get over your problems that quick or the person is a little too thickheaded to look deeper into their problems.
Plus kyuubi was still (somehow) rockin the manifestation of all hatred (the sage was kind of a jerk for saddling baby kurama with that) and i don't think a teenager that just admitted he has problems a minute ago would do real well against that.
Plus kyuubi was still (somehow) rockin the manifestation of all hatred (the sage was kind of a jerk for saddling baby kurama with that) and i don't think a teenager that just admitted he has problems a minute ago would do real well against that.
Well, no one expects the Spa-- I mean a hatred gigadump on the fly. The Falls of Truth made it possible for Naruto to fight the Fox without any exploits ending him beforehand. Of course, seeing that there are those that still see the tailed beasts as dumb animals that need a human host to utilize their power, this also means that no one is really aware of just how powerful and badass (and hateful) the Fox was. In some ways, the ninetails being the source of all the world's miseries may have bore some truth.
There really was nothing stopping Nagato, to the best of my knowledge. He could have retrieved Jiraiya's body. I can see canon being justified there though in that Jiraiya already pulled out a bunch of weird techniques including Sage Mode, so Nagato might suspect there to be some sort of trap in poking at his body that could potentially affect his Six Paths link.
True. On the other hand, if Nagato was willing to sacrifice a Path to check the body for traps, he could very well have had the Summing!Path (what ever the damn thing's name was) summon Jiraiya's crucified corpse, just to fuck with Naruto's head even more.
"Oh? You think you can succeed where Jiraiya failed? Do you really want to end up like this?" *Cue Summoning*
"Oh? You think you can succeed where Jiraiya failed? Do you really want to end up like this?" *Cue Summoning*
When you get down to it, I think it's less of a lack of imagination, and more of a "doesn't have a point to it in the end." Because Nagato doesn't specifically need Jiraiya's body for anything special, since he's the one behind them all in the first place -- at most, it'd serve to be a banner of undermining, but skillwise, it'd probably carry the same amount of weight as the woman Itachi put the whammy on back in the Search for Tsunade arc.
Kabuto, on the other hand, would get a lot more bang for his buck if he could Impure World Jiraiya. Though, seeing the fatal flaw to Impure World Resurrection, Kabuto might have tried to summon up Jiraiya, only to get nothing, as Jiraiya found peace within, and his soul could not be claimed.
Kabuto, on the other hand, would get a lot more bang for his buck if he could Impure World Jiraiya. Though, seeing the fatal flaw to Impure World Resurrection, Kabuto might have tried to summon up Jiraiya, only to get nothing, as Jiraiya found peace within, and his soul could not be claimed.
What I would change:
1. Rin isn't dead, she survived via Sanbi's ability. She keeps Yang half of it, while Yin half is sealed into Yagura and later released into the lake.
2. Guren isn't really loyal to Orochimaru, she was plotting with Yukimaru all along to team up and escape. Gozu's part remains canonical.
1. Rin isn't dead, she survived via Sanbi's ability. She keeps Yang half of it, while Yin half is sealed into Yagura and later released into the lake.
2. Guren isn't really loyal to Orochimaru, she was plotting with Yukimaru all along to team up and escape. Gozu's part remains canonical.
The Rinnegan itself would be a very rare mutation of the Sage's bloodline, like "maybe once every one hundred years" rare. It's not present at birth, but awakens like the Sharingan -- during stressful times. While it's the key to mastering all the world's techniques, each Rinnegan develops differently, each user having a particular affinity for a certain "path" over the others, and their techniques are thematically linked to the user as well -- no two Rinnegan techs are alike.
Example: Sakura unconsciously awakens the Rinnegan in Land of Wave, with an affinity for Naraku Path, which her will is directing her to use on Sasuke and bring him back to life. However, freshly awakened, Sakura doesn't have the proper chakra to initiate the technique, so she unconsciously taps into her secondary path, Animal Path, and summons what's known as a Doom Tree, using her own body as a medium. Tentacles lash out, ensnaring anything in range with chakra and drains it dry, passing the energy onto Sakura, who develops it for the Naraku path to save Sasuke. However, because Sasuke isn't dead, only little cherry blossoms pop up and out of Sasuke's body as he heals from his injuries. The rest of the "save life" energy, looking for a target, will then redirect to Haku, who was just killed minutes ago, encasing the body in a flower bud, which will "bloom" a living, restored Haku within minutes.
Example: Sakura unconsciously awakens the Rinnegan in Land of Wave, with an affinity for Naraku Path, which her will is directing her to use on Sasuke and bring him back to life. However, freshly awakened, Sakura doesn't have the proper chakra to initiate the technique, so she unconsciously taps into her secondary path, Animal Path, and summons what's known as a Doom Tree, using her own body as a medium. Tentacles lash out, ensnaring anything in range with chakra and drains it dry, passing the energy onto Sakura, who develops it for the Naraku path to save Sasuke. However, because Sasuke isn't dead, only little cherry blossoms pop up and out of Sasuke's body as he heals from his injuries. The rest of the "save life" energy, looking for a target, will then redirect to Haku, who was just killed minutes ago, encasing the body in a flower bud, which will "bloom" a living, restored Haku within minutes.
Probably should have thrown in my own two cents there before changing subject but oh well.
Some thoughts I had on how Hebi/Taka could have been redone:
Sasuke had no intention of creating a team in his hunt for Itachi. It was meant to be an entirely personal journey to settle his vendetta. He had already severed such bonds when he left Konoha and had no desire to make them again.
But before hunting his brother, Sasuke had already decided that he would first completely demolish the Hidden Sound and destroy what he considered a truly despicable organization after following Orochimaru for over two years. It was for this purpose that his first action after defeating and absorbing Orochimaru was to assault all of the hidden village's numerous hideouts, freeing the prisoners and destroying the facilities.
Sasuke left Kabuto with Orochimaru's corpse without a care for what he would do next but Kabuto instead chose to follow Sasuke in his journey. Kabuto's weak sense of identity caused him to cling to Sasuke with the death of his previous masters. Without Orochimaru, he even lacks the motivation to preserve the village that he created. Once he had tracked the Uchiha down, he offered his own services to aid Sasuke's mission such as his vast wealth of knowledge from spying and elite medical skills. Sasuke, recognizing that value, allowed Kabuto to join him.
One of their stops is the Northern Hideout for all of Orochimaru's experiments with the cursed seal. Karin is the warden of the facility, given the responsibility for her fuuinjutsu skills such as the powerful chakra chains she can manifest.
The hideout contains dozens of prisoners who were branded with the cursed seal, now going wild with the news of their capturer's death and turning the entire complex into a battle zone. Sasuke and Kabuto arrive, allying themselves with Karin to end the threat of the cursed seal prisoners.
The last and most powerful of their number was Juugo, the source of Orochimaru's cursed seal, who finally broke as all the fighting drove him to a berserker rage. He lost against Sasuke who was even able to suppress Juugo's madness with his Sharingan, something that no-one else had been capable of. Orochimaru and Kimimaro could restrain Juugo but no-one had been able to tame his blood lust. Taking pity on Juugo, Sasuke decided to take him with them. Karin, having no other goals, chose to join and Sasuke saw the value in her sensing abilities for his search.
After working together to destroy the last few facilities remaining, the Itachi Pursuit Mission is underway.
Some thoughts I had on how Hebi/Taka could have been redone:
Sasuke had no intention of creating a team in his hunt for Itachi. It was meant to be an entirely personal journey to settle his vendetta. He had already severed such bonds when he left Konoha and had no desire to make them again.
But before hunting his brother, Sasuke had already decided that he would first completely demolish the Hidden Sound and destroy what he considered a truly despicable organization after following Orochimaru for over two years. It was for this purpose that his first action after defeating and absorbing Orochimaru was to assault all of the hidden village's numerous hideouts, freeing the prisoners and destroying the facilities.
Sasuke left Kabuto with Orochimaru's corpse without a care for what he would do next but Kabuto instead chose to follow Sasuke in his journey. Kabuto's weak sense of identity caused him to cling to Sasuke with the death of his previous masters. Without Orochimaru, he even lacks the motivation to preserve the village that he created. Once he had tracked the Uchiha down, he offered his own services to aid Sasuke's mission such as his vast wealth of knowledge from spying and elite medical skills. Sasuke, recognizing that value, allowed Kabuto to join him.
One of their stops is the Northern Hideout for all of Orochimaru's experiments with the cursed seal. Karin is the warden of the facility, given the responsibility for her fuuinjutsu skills such as the powerful chakra chains she can manifest.
The hideout contains dozens of prisoners who were branded with the cursed seal, now going wild with the news of their capturer's death and turning the entire complex into a battle zone. Sasuke and Kabuto arrive, allying themselves with Karin to end the threat of the cursed seal prisoners.
The last and most powerful of their number was Juugo, the source of Orochimaru's cursed seal, who finally broke as all the fighting drove him to a berserker rage. He lost against Sasuke who was even able to suppress Juugo's madness with his Sharingan, something that no-one else had been capable of. Orochimaru and Kimimaro could restrain Juugo but no-one had been able to tame his blood lust. Taking pity on Juugo, Sasuke decided to take him with them. Karin, having no other goals, chose to join and Sasuke saw the value in her sensing abilities for his search.
After working together to destroy the last few facilities remaining, the Itachi Pursuit Mission is underway.