Naruto [Naruto] Miscellaneous ideas topic.

[nuclear death frog]

Miscellaneous ideas topic.

A couple more ideas.

"Without Objections"
On the day of Naruto's graduation from the academy, a list of the 27 graduates (Naruto being #27) is posted. Immediately Iruka starts getting visitors demanding that Naruto not be placed in a team with their child. Iruka gets more than 20 of these visitors.

Ultimately only two clans don't file an objection: the Uchiha and the Hyuuga. The Hyuuga didn't object because Hiashi sees Hinata virtually as expendable; and the Uchiha didn't object because the only person who could is an S-rank criminal.

Therefore, Naruto gets placed in a team with Sasuke and Hinata, simply because he HAS to be placed and there are no other options, as none of the parents will withdraw their objections. Hence the title.

 

[GenocideHeart]

Miscellaneous ideas topic.

A couple more ideas.

"Without Objections": On the day of Naruto's graduation from the academy, a list of the 27 graduates (Naruto being #27) is posted. Immediately Iruka starts getting visitors demanding that Naruto not be placed in a team with their child. Iruka gets more than 20 of these visitors.

Ultimately only two clans don't file an objection: the Uchiha and the Hyuuga. The Hyuuga didn't object because Hiashi sees Hinata virtually as expendable; and the Uchiha didn't object because the only person who could is an S-rank criminal.

Therefore, Naruto gets placed in a team with Sasuke and Hinata, simply because he HAS to be placed and there are no other options, as none of the parents will withdraw their objections. Hence the title.

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Second one later.

I like this idea just based on the colossal clash of personalities. Iceprick, quiet and loud.

 

[nuclear death frog]

Miscellaneous ideas topic.

A couple more ideas.

"Without Objections": On the day of Naruto's graduation from the academy, a list of the 27 graduates (Naruto being #27) is posted. Immediately Iruka starts getting visitors demanding that Naruto not be placed in a team with their child. Iruka gets more than 20 of these visitors.

Ultimately only two clans don't file an objection: the Uchiha and the Hyuuga. The Hyuuga didn't object because Hiashi sees Hinata virtually as expendable; and the Uchiha didn't object because the only person who could is an S-rank criminal.

Therefore, Naruto gets placed in a team with Sasuke and Hinata, simply because he HAS to be placed and there are no other options, as none of the parents will withdraw their objections. Hence the title.

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Second one later.

I like this idea just based on the colossal clash of personalities. Iceprick, quiet and loud.

Thanks. I hadn't picked a jounin to teach them, but was leaning towards anyone *other* than Kakashi.

Can you tell I don't think much of him?

 

[GenocideHeart]

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Thanks. I hadn't picked a jounin to teach them, but was leaning towards anyone *other* than Kakashi.

Can you tell I don't think much of him?

I fail to see how *anyone* could think highly of him as a teacher. He may be a badass ninja, but he absolutely STINKS as far as the teaching business goes.

 

[nuclear death frog]

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Thanks. I hadn't picked a jounin to teach them, but was leaning towards anyone *other* than Kakashi.

Can you tell I don't think much of him?

I fail to see how *anyone* could think highly of him as a teacher. He may be a badass ninja, but he absolutely STINKS as far as the teaching business goes.

He's not even really all he's cracked up to be as a ninja.

Think about it. Kakashi became a chuunin at *six years of age*. Yet we're supposed to believe that he created his sole original technique maybe ten years later, and nothing since?

Plus, he flat-out admits that he is getting out of shape, when he is climbing that ridge one-handed, and has to open the Initial Gate to be able to do it. In his free time, he does not work out, when he *knows* he has stamina issues when using that borrowed Deus ex Machigan (that name rules). And he doesn't study either, with his supposedly Shikamaru-plus level of intelligence. Instead, he reads porn. He doesn't even write it; he leaves that to Jiraiya. By the way, did he KNOW that Jiraiya wrote it? Is that known worldwide?

Kakashi is an inherently *lazy* man. Period. No other explanation will be accepted.

 

[Moshulel]

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Thanks. I hadn't picked a jounin to teach them, but was leaning towards anyone *other* than Kakashi.

Can you tell I don't think much of him?

I fail to see how *anyone* could think highly of him as a teacher. He may be a badass ninja, but he absolutely STINKS as far as the teaching business goes.

The bad part however, id that nobody knew about how he's going to be as a teacher. Remember team 7 was the first team he passed and his previouses experiences should have tought him something... and they didn't

 

[nuclear death frog]

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Incidentally, that six years of age mark is about four or five years younger than ITACHI managed it.

Itachi, who is so incredibly powerful and who Orochimaru is so utterly terrified of, that Orochimaru left Akatsuki when Itachi was ten. Two years before Itachi offed his family. And Orochimaru was *already* technically immortal.


Think about that.

 

[nuclear death frog]

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Did I kill the discussion?

 

[Moshulel]

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? Incidentally, that six years of age mark is about four or five years younger than ITACHI managed it.

Itachi, who is so incredibly powerful and who Orochimaru is so utterly terrified of, that Orochimaru left Akatsuki when Itachi was ten. Two years before Itachi offed his family. And Orochimaru was *already* technically immortal.

Now why was this Deux et Machigan user brought into the discussion?

I think we were ranting about incompetency as a teacher, not levels of power.

 

[nuclear death frog]

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áá Incidentally, that six years of age mark is about four or five years younger than ITACHI managed it.

Itachi, who is so incredibly powerful and who Orochimaru is so utterly terrified of, that Orochimaru left Akatsuki when Itachi was ten. Two years before Itachi offed his family. And Orochimaru was *already* technically immortal.

Now why was this Deux et Machigan user brought into the discussion?

I think we were ranting about incompetency as a teacher, not levels of power.

I was just ranting about Kakashi in general.

 

[nuclear death frog]

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Anyway, does anyone have any thoughts on this idea? Some changes to it.

"Useless?"
The Hyuuga heiress is a disappointment. Her skills in the Gentle Fist are worse than any Hyuuga in Hiashi's grandfather's living memory, and this is not an exaggeration due to egotism. Her balance is awful, and her chakra control just sucks.

If it weren't for the enormous stores of chakra rushing through her system, she'd have been culled years ago.

That level of chakra leads to an accident one day. Hinata had seen her father performing hand seals, and *thought* she had the seals right.

She didn't. Hinata accidentally summons a nearby rabbit, and her chakra bloats it to fifty feet in height.

Hiashi promptly goes :blink: :huh!: :blink: and decides his daughter should be taught proper summoning. No reason her bloodline can't be kept as another cadet branch.

Hinata as Mistress of Summons. Not so "useless" anymore.

 

[GenocideHeart]

Miscellaneous ideas topic.

Anyway, does anyone have any thoughts on this idea? Some changes to it.

"Useless?"
The Hyuuga heiress is a disappointment. Her skills in the Gentle Fist are worse than any Hyuuga in Hiashi's grandfather's living memory, and this is not an exaggeration due to egotism. Her balance is awful, and her chakra control just sucks.

If it weren't for the enormous stores of chakra rushing through her system, she'd have been culled years ago.

That level of chakra leads to an accident one day. Hinata had seen her father performing hand seals, and *thought* she had the seals right.

She didn't. Hinata accidentally summons a nearby rabbit, and her chakra bloats it to fifty feet in height.

Hiashi promptly goes :blink: :huh!: :blink: and decides his daughter should be taught proper summoning. No reason her bloodline can't be kept as another cadet branch.

Hinata as Mistress of Summons. Not so "useless" anymore.

I like the idea, actually.

Another thought, an offshoot from my puppet idea: What if Naruto wasn't human to begin with?

He could be any sort of thing. A doppelganger? Interesting idea. A Woren? Doable, and it'd be wicked cool if the first time Naruto gets mad he turns in that hugantic antropomorphic tiger.

A dragon? Also possible...

Undead? Who knows, maybe one of the countless assassination attempt was successful, he just didn't STAY dead.

The last one could be totally creepy... And by 'undead' I don't necessarily mean a vampire. It can be anything. Ghoul, skeleton, presence, lich or even just a Deathless One. The latter could be preferable as they look completely human. They just have no vital signs to speak of - they don't bleed, have no pulse, don't breathe and don't even blink.

 

[Moshulel]

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I don't really like the summons idea, you would first requiere a contract for that. Further more Hyuuga's tend to keep to their Jyuuken. Offcourse i know i'll be flatened by Hinata supporters but meh i need to tell my own idea.

As for Naruto not a human? I saw it before, plenty of times actually, can't say i liked any of them though. :sweat:

Just as a thought what if Naruto was in fact something akin to a holly spirit/creature etc... you can fill in the blanks.

 

[GenocideHeart]

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I don't really like the summons idea, you would first requiere a contract for that. Further more Hyuuga's tend to keep to their Jyuuken. Offcourse i know i'll be flatened by Hinata supporters but meh i need to tell my own idea.

A contract is needed for creatures like Gama Bunta. What Hinata did in that idea is akin to ripping a creature off its spot, transporting it near her and then casting a Giant Growth on it.

Also, while Hyuuga do tend top keep their Jyuuken... there's always a few bad apples in the basket. Why not have Hinata be it? It's not an unbreakable rule, dammit. Don't let your dislike of Hinata blind you.

 

[Moshulel]

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Also, while Hyuuga do tend top keep their Jyuuken... there's always a few bad apples in the basket. Why not have Hinata be it? It's not an unbreakable rule, dammit. Don't let your dislike of Hinata blind you.

The point being that her exposure to people using seals would be minimal.

A contract is needed for creatures like Gama Bunta. What Hinata did in that idea is akin to ripping a creature off its spot, transporting it near her and then casting a Giant Growth on it.

Spatial displacement... and then a growth jutsu? Nice to know she has such a chakra reserve.

The point was that it has to be something more realistic.

Maybe having her as a creature tamer? :rofl:

A mix between the Aburame and the Inuzuka with beasts of the forest as her familiars.

 

[GenocideHeart]

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Any clan able to create something like the Caged Bird seal has to have extensive knowledge of them... also, Neji did use a handseal to create that chakra field he used on Kidoumaru.

 

[nuclear death frog]

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I don't really like the summons idea, you would first requiere a contract for that.

Yes, to be able to summon a specific type of animal. By just imitating the seals without knowing what it would do, Hinata randomly grabbed the nearest creature and made it grow immensely. Incidentally, without the contract she used a lot more chakra than she needed to, but in this AU she has such strength in reserves (without even being a demon vessel) that she didn't notice.

Further more Hyuuga's tend to keep to their Jyuuken.

My rebuttal is simply that Hinata didn't know what the hell she was doing. Granted, she probably shouldn't have been messing with hand seals while *not* knowing what she was doing, but that's an entirely different kettle of fish.

 

[Moshulel]

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Yes, to be able to summon a specific type of animal. By just imitating the seals without knowing what it would do, Hinata randomly grabbed the nearest creature and made it grow immensely. Incidentally, without the contract she used a lot more chakra than she needed to, but in this AU she has such strength in reserves (without even being a demon vessel) that she didn't notice.

Oh well... i can already see where this fic is heading.

*sigh*

The point is that summoning this way, and then using a growth jutsu is much more chakra consuming than a normal summoning jutsu. And besides you need to take her age at the moment she does this into account.

 

[GenocideHeart]

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It just means she'd have outlandish chakra reserves.

Which, by the way, probably means she can't use the Jyuuken at all, since too much chakra gives control problems... this Hinata just plain can't use the Hyuuga style.

Although... with all that chakra, her Byakugan could probably see a few miles away...

Well, I like the idea. However, may I suggest an unusual pairing for it? Say, Hinata/Shikamaru or something equally odd. Pairing her with Naruto would be pointless, as she's essentially a clone of him.

 

[Moshulel]

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Well, I like the idea. However, may I suggest an unusual pairing for it? Say, Hinata/Shikamaru or something equally odd. Pairing her with Naruto would be pointless, as she's essentially a clone of him.

That's one of the things i don't like about the idea, the posibility of her being paired with Naruto.

Also depending on the age she performs the jutsu it would mean she has greater reserves than Naruto? :blink:

Heh, she's like Naruto in a way in this fic: improvization, huge chakra reserves... etc

Though i wander, being able to see the way you chakra flows and the other Hyuuga abilities... should counter somewhat her Enourmous chakra capacity.

 

[nuclear death frog]

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That's one of the things i don't like about the idea, the posibility of her being paired with Naruto.

First, I like that pairing, so nyehhhhh.

Second, and more importantly, that's completely irrelevant to this potential fic at this stage.

Though i wander, being able to see the way you chakra flows and the other Hyuuga abilities... should counter somewhat her Enourmous chakra capacity.

Did you...read the idea? Really read it?

The girl's chakra control *sucks*. Her balance is *awful*. She's legitimately the worst Gentle Fist user in the memory of Hiashi's GRANDFATHER.

Damn straight it's a counter. Her huge chakra reserves are what kept her from being culled. Culled, meaning KILLED. By her family. Because she would (theoretically) weaken the bloodline.

Do you know anything about dog breeding? Same principle.

 

[GenocideHeart]

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That's one of the things i don't like about the idea, the posibility of her being paired with Naruto.

Also depending on the age she performs the jutsu it would mean she has greater reserves than Naruto? :blink:

Heh, she's like Naruto in a way in this fic: improvization, huge chakra reserves... etc

Though i wander, being able to see the way you chakra flows and the other Hyuuga abilities... should counter somewhat her Enourmous chakra capacity.

Problem is, seeing tenketsu and chakra flow is something Hinata was apparently incapable of (she failed to notice Neji blocking hers off). And it probably requires chakra control. Meaning that while her farsight and ability to see through solid objects are likely off the scale thanks to her hugantic chakra reserves, the finer points of the Byakugan are inaccessible to her.

Amd seriously, nothing's WRONG with Naruto/Hinata. It's overdone, yeah, but not bad per se.

And if insteadv of love/love it was a friendship fic, it'd be fine.

 

[GenocideHeart]

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Oh, one more thing: she can probably pull off Neji's chakra field which he used on Kidoumaru without even blinking. Between that and her 360 view with exceptional range, she's probably impossible to ambush, so she could also be a very good scout.

 

[Moshulel]

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First, I like that pairing, so nyehhhhh.

Second, and more importantly, that's completely irrelevant to this potential fic at this stage.

Yes it is, because i'm kind of tired of seeing plot devices design only for this thing. :sweat:

Did you...read the idea? Really read it?

The girl's chakra control *sucks*. Her balance is *awful*. She's legitimately the worst Gentle Fist user in the memory of Hiashi's GRANDFATHER.

Damn straight it's a counter. Her huge chakra reserves are what kept her from being culled. Culled, meaning KILLED. By her family. Because she would (theoretically) weaken the bloodline.

Do you know anything about dog breeding? Same principle.

I have a question, what does bad control mean to the Hyuuga compared to the rest of the village?

Problem is, seeing tenketsu and chakra flow is something Hinata was apparently incapable of (she failed to notice Neji blocking hers off). And it probably requires chakra control.

You do realize that she wouldn't have been able to use the Jyuuken in that case?

 

[GenocideHeart]

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You do realize that she wouldn't have been able to use the Jyuuken in that case?

Untrue. The Jyuuken, as Neji showed, can also be used to target internal organs, and in fact that's its basic use - hence why 'Gentle Fist'... a mere love tap can kill, and brute force is not necessary. Sealing tenketsu is an advanced skill, from my understanding, and not everyone can do it.