Akamatsuverse Neo Negima

Spaz

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#1
Neo Negima

I think this is the new curveball Akamatsu has thrown to his fans. It's pretty faced paced, already past the Eva arc in 5 chapters.
 

Dreamingfox

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#2
It's an interesting new perspective on the manga. The girls appear to be much younger and childlike then in the original, and Negi does too.
 

Spaz

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#3
I liked the intro to Negi and Anya; interesting way to defeat a monster. It looks like Nodoka isn't going to be a major role in Neo Negima than in Negima. -_-
 

~NGD OMEGA~

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#4
Yep. Looks like it's based of the second TV series... hopefully this won't go through a mass pactio.
 

Lord Raine

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#5
I think Akamatsu is going to keep on doing alter-versions until he's paired Negi up with everyone possible. Maybe. :p

Also, Evangeline is hilarious, and the Pactio's are even more powerful. Asuna didn't just get a sword, but a full set of magic armor. Whoo~!

Don't count her out just yet. We haven't even gotten six chapters into the story. There's plenty of time for Shy Girl LoveÖ.
 

~NGD OMEGA~

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#6
Actually Pactio's are more unreliable in this one. It's a 2/3 shot to get something that works, and that last one screws you over in this one. Also Pactios in the other one could change clothes based on some kind of design, so you WERE possibly able to get some kind of armor. The artist describes it like a magical girl transformation. In this one there's also the energy drain to worry about too... the concept itself is interesting, as is the trasformation sequence, it's the dud part that screws you over... and practically makes it NECESSARY to have a harem in order to reduce the chances of having literally no support in battle. Which in hindsight was pretty clever of the ones who designed it. :snigger:

However true about Nodoka. After all, how many chapters did it take in the ORIGINAL to actually make her a central character...
 

Lord Raine

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#7
I was about to comment on that, as I just reached that point. Pactio's are apparently more powerful, but they're also more unstable. Three different transformations total: one is strong, one is ok, and one is completely useless.

Logically, you would need at least three Pactio's with three different people to ensure that you always have a fully-powered partner.

Alternatively, it's possible that the random factor is a trait of Probationary Contracts, and a Permanent contract doesn't possess such inherent instability.
 

Nenawisc

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#8
It seems to be heavily based of the second Anime Negima!?.

It cant be stated enough how well this looks. I mean just look at Evangeline for example.

Was I the only one spitting out my drink when I read chpter five? I mean:
Setsuna doing a very good impression of Motoko with her Zanganken
and the whole miko outfit cosplay in general


Also I must say Sayo looks really really cute.
 

Tom_Badgerlock

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#9
Couldn't finish it.

Dialogue is flat, characters are pathetic....

At least, i nthe original you could pretend to yourself Eva was just playing around or something. This has Negi putting on the Power Of Love ? on *Eva* in a few minutes.

Gah.

and that's not my only gripe too Y_Y
 

jaredstar

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#10
as i understand it Akamatsu isn't drawing this him self but is supervising somebody named Takuya Fujima (who apparently did a several negima doujin)
 

Franchise

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#11
Seems pretty good so far. My only concern is that I don't want this to completely follow the plot of the 2nd anime series. I didn't really like the mass pactico in that one and as the series went on, it started to get a bit repetitive.
 

Mechatrill

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#12
Lord Raine said:
Logically, you would need at least three Pactio's with three different people to ensure that you always have a fully-powered partner.
Eh, not really true. Probability dictates that there's always a chance for complete failure. It's just that the probability decreases exponentially as more partners are added.
 

~NGD OMEGA~

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#13
Franchise said:
Seems pretty good so far. My only concern is that I don't want this to completely follow the plot of the 2nd anime series. I didn't really like the mass pactico in that one and as the series went on, it started to get a bit repetitive.
Note that, on paper, the first anime was also supposed to be based on the first Negima series... and considering that anime had a mass pactio too and failed so completely compared to the real deal... I wouldn't say it's likely that this one will pull the same. I mean hell, the Sayo thing was completely different.

Also agreed on the power of love crap in that battle... though it still shows promise. Particularly if Nodoka's pactio is similar to what it was in the anime... that was outright dangerous... Knowledge is power indeed.
 

Mr. Lee

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#14
Much respect to Lord Raine for mentioning this manga in the Naruto manga thread :yay: . I've read all the chapters so far, including the last chapter with Konoka now joining the pactio crew and saving Setsuna (Who could've been Motoko's clone last chapter :lol: .).

So far, I think it does have good potential, especially in regards to the characters. The way the first chapter went, I wished Anya went with Negi (They would make a pretty strong team and their interaction was cute.). Asuna seems surprisingly more likable in this version (We all know how she was in the early part of the manga.). Though her love for chupacabras is kind of wonky :lol: :rofl: :lol:! Evangeline seems more 'human' and finding out a lot more about her abilities despite the swiftness of her arc is interesting (Though I feel she's more badass in the manga.). I'll be watching to see how this neo version does. Especially with that petrifying fairy they fought in the last two chapters (Fate's work?).
 

~NGD OMEGA~

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#15
New chapter is up. I don't know whether to be happy that it's finally diverging from the anime in a good way, or pissed that it wasn't Chamo. Cats at the very least have other sources of warmth. Very serious curveball he threw there though, I'll give him that. Still, the fact that Anya isn't going to be a minor character for roughly a hundred and fifty chapters is certainly a good thing. Although I'd be more pleased if the themes weren't so childishly optimistic. Even considering the main character in question is indeed a child, my interest is taking a hit.
 

Lord Raine

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#16
Although I'd be more pleased if the themes weren't so childishly optimistic. Even considering the main character in question is indeed a child, my interest is taking a hit.
Um, they're childishly optimistic in canon as well. Akamatsu just doesn't underline that fact quite as much in Negima! as he could.

These are the exact same themes in canon. Like, exactly. It's just that they didn't talk about them as much in Negima! as they do here. Friendship, loyalty, never giving up, what love really means, ect, ect. It's the same stuff, and I'm almost willing to say the lessons are happening in the exact same order as well.

or pissed that it wasn't Chamo.
I actually thought that was rather funny. You would expect it to be Chamo, so naturally it wasn't.
 

~NGD OMEGA~

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#17
Themes-Keyword there. By which I mean how they're handled, though perhaps I needed to find the right word to describe it. How about Sappy. The whole Work Hard theme in this chapter that magically fixed Anya's problem via reflection on Negi, Eva's sudden conversion in regards to Chachamaru out of nowhere with the whole theme of friendship going on there, and so on... Those themes handled in a way that makes it seem childish, the kind of stuff you'd expect to see in a kid's show frankly. Overall they can be made awesome, as Negima does show but the way it's used here makes it seem overly sappy. Granted Eva's was worse, but that doesn't say much.

As for the curveball in regards Chamo, I did give credit for that. Though the stealing the underwear when Yue was wearing them makes less sense. It can't find a discarded coat or something?

Edit: Wait... thinking it over, that wasn't actually established...
 

Lord Raine

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#18
I find it quite refreshing after all the Serious Business? that some manga and anime are trying to push.
 

~NGD OMEGA~

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#20
Now this chapter was better. A little Chappy on the Class rep, and Asuna is apparently channeling Rakan a little. "EARLIER REMARKS REVOKED KIIIIIICK!!!"

Not like the Negima?! anime either (At least from what I recall), so there's some bonus points there. Actually it hasn't been like that for a while (As Nodoka would have a contract already), so I can put that worry aside at least.

Edit: Also, now that I think about it, though it has no effect on the chapter, that pic of Kaede in the credits was pretty cool.
 

Lord Raine

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#21
New chapter is out. It focuses on Hasegawa, the e-idol who hates anything that isn't normal.

It's somewhat interesting, though I'm not liking it as much as I did the other chapters. Apparently she has some serious self-image issues (which does make sense, what with the whole "building a beautiful alter-ego" thing), which can lead to colossal emotional failure. There's a part here where she goes way past casual blushing in embarrassment. I won't spoil it, but you'll know it when you see it.

I'm not a fan, though, about how much of it was resolved by the end of the chapter. While it was nice to see Negi cheer her up, the overwhelming positive influx of confidence it brought her boarders on unrealistic. That's the kind of thing that can be drawn out over many chapters as the character struggles to resolve it or overcome it, and he had her mostly overcome it in a single scenario.

I'm not a fan of that, and I think it would have been better to draw it out more and use it to develop Hasegawa's character.*


On the plus side, Hasegawa is more well-rounded than she is in Negima. She's a gaming junkie in addition to being a hacker and an e-idol, and could probably easily hold court with some of the characters from Lucky Star.

And I'm dying to know what the hell's up with these fairies and crystals.


* In fact, that seems to be an issue with Neo as a whole. Characters are reaching resolutions in one or two chapters that should have been extrapolated out to a much longer timeline. I could buy, for instance, Evangeline eventually having a change of heart like that. In fact, she's well on her way to it in canon, though I seriously doubt she'd admit it to herself. However, what's taking a long time to happen in Negima is happening extremely quickly in Neo, which is robbing the storyline of some of it's potential.

That's just my opinion, though.
 

Luthorne

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#22
No, I agree. That's one of my main gripes with Negima Neo, just how incredibly quickly it's moving...I feel the characterization is really suffering because of it. Things are started and wrapped up in a single chapter, and the hastiness is almost painful, especially after Mahou Sensei Negima, where the way the characters were developed and expanded upon at a much more reasonable pace...one of my favorite parts of it, along with over-the-top shenanigans and the humor. Overall, I really don't think Neo stacks up well against its predecessor...though, I wouldn't mind being proven wrong. :mellow:
 

ZeroForever

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#23
Negima Neo, from what i've been reading has the character/villian of the day type effect at the moment as described above (anime had that same feeling to it which is why i couldn't stand it).

As noted it's pretty much student/character introduced/explored in detail that chapter(s), conflict with random faerie of the day, resolution by defeating random faerie of the day which somehow also confronts the fear that student has ending the chapter.

The issue is the emotional/personality issue is usually resolved way to quickly and insufficently to really be pausible sometimes and the villians well you don't have any real care about the villians. There's a few series that do this though Neo seems to be a extreme version.
 

~NGD OMEGA~

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#24
That's pretty much what I was trying to say earlier, abet focusing more on the effect the rushing brings about rather than the actual problem itself, which I had some trouble puting into words. In this case however, I will note that Chisame's image issue (Which makes strangely a LOT of sense, as you said) is not so much resolved as temporarily pushed to the side for that one instance (For an example of this (Abet done far better), the 'Fear' issue that constantly plagues Ichigo in his fights). The fact that she's still going about in the glasses and trying to hide herself after the fact can attest to that. However that doesn't really change the fact that it did indeed come off as rushed for this particular instance.

At the same time though, I REALLY liked this new aspect to her character. So once again, I'm torn...
 

Lord Raine

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#25
New chapter is out. Sort of. It's an extra chapter, "Chapter 9.5", that's mostly for humor and randomness.

It spoofs the common "sentai team" theme by using the Baka Rangers as superheros, with Negi being the 'higher up' who gives them instructions via an enormous screen showing his face. It's pretty amusing, all in all, and has a lot of running gags and references to other series in it. (I spotted what I'm pretty sure is a nod to NGE, though I'm not sure, and there's a fair number of references to Gundam.)
 
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