Naruto New Divergence Points

Dunstan

Well-Known Member
#26
mortalone said:
Given Kimimaro's speed and agility, as well as his ability to strike at range, he'd be a tough opponent even for Neji.
But a few glancing hits to the arms, and by by "ability to strike at range".. And most everything else for that matter.
 

Knyght

The Collector
#27
Kidomaru already showed us that the Gentle Fist can be blocked by armour. Kimimaro's bones wouldn't even need to block chakra, they just have to prevent Neji's hand from touching his body which is no different than how he fought Lee. Growing a bone in the way or "grabbing" Neji's hand with a bunches of bones would neutralise the Gentle Fist.
 

goldenarms

Well-Known Member
#28
Speaking of which, another different divergence point would be when Kakashi confronts Sasuke after his tussle with Naruto on the hospital roof. Instead of just leaving Sasuke to reflect upon his actions, which introduces the Sound 4 to him, Kakashi does one of a few things:

1) Sniffing out the problem, Kakashi remedies by having someone he knows/trusts to keep an eye on Sasuke (say Yamato). This can have said person intervening at any point during the Sound 4's scouting of Sasuke to the moment he tries to leave the village and prevent events from happening through a variety of ways -- from personal confrontation to dragging the whole of Team 7 through fire to force him into smartening up.

2) Kakashi, seeing just how vicious Sasuke is getting, decides upon a more hands-on method of knocking sense into Sasuke by taking him on whatever mission he's going on (which will be appropriately tailored to awakening Sasuke to several facts about his own situation, plus force him to do something to curtail his own downward spiral or die).

3) Kakashi has Team 7 put onto a mission while he's away, using someone he knows/trusts to be a surrogate leader. Of course, what should be a simple mission goes south very quickly, and forces everyone to get their acts together or else, they're all dead.
 

WarGiver

Well-Known Member
#29
Here are some divergence points I have either not seen, or only seen very very rarely:

1. After a few D class missions - Sasuke/Naruto/both gets pissed and does something stupid and I do not mean getting a different C class mission
2. Post Wave Sakura quits
3. Naruto never steals the scroll of seals.
4. Naruto gets kidnapped by the Kumo nin instead of the attempt on Hinata (He is wearing the Uzumaki symbol as a clan mon, some might know why the last attempt on an uzumaki failed and might try this instead. or both get kidnapped sucessfully.
5. Kakashi died instead of Obito, this based on current manga revolations might mean that Akatsuki might never been a threat to hosts, without any uchiha to do thoes manipulations there would have been no blood purge in mists, and the 7 swordsmen might still be together, and the tailed host might still be kage. How would this have affected Orchimaru, the uchiha masicure, not death of the fourth in a kyuubi attack... dang this one event could entirely rewrite everything...
6. Konoha was never founded! why Naruto still exists would need work on this one, but man this would be a wierd one.
7. Danzo never went evil... this is almost as bad as #5...
8. Jiraiya never wrote "The Legend of the gutsy Ninja" (This is where Naruto was named from, and based on Nagato... you tell me this would change nothing.
9. when Kakashi ordered Sakura to kill Naruto or Sasuke dies, she tries...
10. Anko died from the cursed seal when she was originally affected.
 

Knyght

The Collector
#30
Speaking of which, another different divergence point would be when Kakashi confronts Sasuke after his tussle with Naruto on the hospital roof. Instead of just leaving Sasuke to reflect upon his actions, which introduces the Sound 4 to him, Kakashi does one of a few things:

1) Sniffing out the problem, Kakashi remedies by having someone he knows/trusts to keep an eye on Sasuke (say Yamato). This can have said person intervening at any point during the Sound 4's scouting of Sasuke to the moment he tries to leave the village and prevent events from happening through a variety of ways -- from personal confrontation to dragging the whole of Team 7 through fire to force him into smartening up.

2) Kakashi, seeing just how vicious Sasuke is getting, decides upon a more hands-on method of knocking sense into Sasuke by taking him on whatever mission he's going on (which will be appropriately tailored to awakening Sasuke to several facts about his own situation, plus force him to do something to curtail his own downward spiral or die).

3) Kakashi has Team 7 put onto a mission while he's away, using someone he knows/trusts to be a surrogate leader. Of course, what should be a simple mission goes south very quickly, and forces everyone to get their acts together or else, they're all dead.
4) Kakashi drags him to the Memorial Stone gives him the pertinent parts of his life story to show he isn't just blowing smoke

A similar divergence that got some discussion a while back is the Sound Four arriving a day late.

Changing anything with Obito would end up rewriting the entire series. Could be awesome or it could fail before it gets off the ground.
 

Leonite

Well-Known Member
#31
goldenarms said:
Speaking of which, another different divergence point would be when Kakashi confronts Sasuke after his tussle with Naruto on the hospital roof. Instead of just leaving Sasuke to reflect upon his actions, which introduces the Sound 4 to him, Kakashi does one of a few things:

1) Sniffing out the problem, Kakashi remedies by having someone he knows/trusts to keep an eye on Sasuke (say Yamato). This can have said person intervening at any point during the Sound 4's scouting of Sasuke to the moment he tries to leave the village and prevent events from happening through a variety of ways -- from personal confrontation to dragging the whole of Team 7 through fire to force him into smartening up.
Well the Sound Four are doomed then, what chance do those four, have against Yamato, who was one of Orochimaru's experiments and has wood style jutsu... hell, I'll bet that one of them has heard about it and basically go "Oh shit guys, this guy was one of Orochimaru's attempts at an awesome body, like Kimmimaro.

Actually, thats a good divergence, when the Sasuke Retrival team is sent out, Tenzo (because at the time he would still be Tenzo) is in the village and Tsunade dispatches him to lead the team or give the team backup, partly for strength reasons and partly because Naruto is likely to start leaking Kyuubi chakra in the mission.
 
#32
main problem is the lack of manpower Konoha had then. Tsunade was actually sending Kakashi to another mission, when he got back, instead of sending him to help.

A more interesting twist is Kakashi bringing Team 7 with him on his mission. This screw up royally the Sound 4 and gives Team 7 a good idea on real high-ranking missions.
 

zeebee1

Well-Known Member
#33
I remember one story where a drunken Tsunade just slapped them down. It only took to hits to make the remaining two give up.
 

Shirotsume

Not The Goddamn @dmin
#34
Yeah, I remember that. Sakura used her goddamn head instead of acting like a dumbass and set off a flare when she found Sasuke trying to leave.
 

zeebee1

Well-Known Member
#35
Yamato would probably do the same. Except he'd grow a giant tree which he'd set on fire.
 

Prince Charon

Well-Known Member
#36
goldenarms said:
3) Kakashi has Team 7 put onto a mission while he's away, using someone he knows/trusts to be a surrogate leader. Of course, what should be a simple mission goes south very quickly, and forces everyone to get their acts together or else, they're all dead.
This could be an interesting idea. Who does Kakashi trust enough to lead them on a mission, though?

One thought that occurs to me is that they're sent as extra muscle on a 'routine' mission that Shizune's on (really, it's planned as a safe learning experience), which turns out to be anything but routine.
 

Antimatter

Well-Known Member
#37
Leonite said:
goldenarms said:
Speaking of which, another different divergence point would be when Kakashi confronts Sasuke after his tussle with Naruto on the hospital roof. Instead of just leaving Sasuke to reflect upon his actions, which introduces the Sound 4 to him, Kakashi does one of a few things:

1) Sniffing out the problem, Kakashi remedies by having someone he knows/trusts to keep an eye on Sasuke (say Yamato). This can have said person intervening at any point during the Sound 4's scouting of Sasuke to the moment he tries to leave the village and prevent events from happening through a variety of ways -- from personal confrontation to dragging the whole of Team 7 through fire to force him into smartening up.
Well the Sound Four are doomed then, what chance do those four, have against Yamato, who was one of Orochimaru's experiments and has wood style jutsu... hell, I'll bet that one of them has heard about it and basically go "Oh shit guys, this guy was one of Orochimaru's attempts at an awesome body, like Kimmimaro.

Actually, thats a good divergence, when the Sasuke Retrival team is sent out, Tenzo (because at the time he would still be Tenzo) is in the village and Tsunade dispatches him to lead the team or give the team backup, partly for strength reasons and partly because Naruto is likely to start leaking Kyuubi chakra in the mission.
even easier: You know how, in the anime at least, the sound four encountered a pair of jounin, who they managed to defeat?

What if the Jounin didn't go down so easily, and in fact, manage to take one of the sound four out?

Assuming the same number of Genin, and their reinforcements, that could mean Naruto isn't alone at the valley of the end.
 

Knyght

The Collector
#38
They were actually Special Jounin. A slightly more believable scenario could be that Shizune and whoever the other one was returned to the other two sooner and help in confrontation.
 

Dunstan

Well-Known Member
#39
Prince Charon said:
This could be an interesting idea.? Who does Kakashi trust enough to lead them on a mission, though?
Isn't it obvious? :huh: Only one thing can save Sasuke now...


"The power of YOUTH!!!"


(How come I had to be the first to say that? :no: )
 

seitora

Well-Known Member
#40
Another divergence point I guess could be the start of the second exam.

There's 26 teams, and they're supposedly evenly spaced around the perimeter of the Forest of Death. Assuming the Forest of Death is a perfect circle and it was said to be 10km to the centre of the forest, that means a 62.8km perimeter.

Simply station the teams around in a different order. Perhaps Naruto and Gaara encounter each other a lot quicker?
 

Antimatter

Well-Known Member
#41
knight504 said:
They were actually Special Jounin. A slightly more believable scenario could be that Shizune and whoever the other one was returned to the other two sooner and help in confrontation.
hell, that could end up a pretty even match for some of them, and definitely increase the chance of one or even two going down.

Or, perhaps captured as the jounins are forced to retreat.


another idea: On the way out of the village, Sasuke gets stopped by another Konoha nin, wondering where he is off too/who had seen the sound four tempt him.

For shits and giggles, lets say it's Gai, or Anko.
 

Amberion

Well-Known Member
#42
How would any of this change anything though?

Orochimaru won't get Sasukes body.

Sound four will be taken care of.

And Sasuke still wants to go to Orochimaru.
 

Knyght

The Collector
#43
You mean other than the many potential changes that result from Sasuke remaining in Konoha?
 

Amberion

Well-Known Member
#44
What would keep him there though?

From what I remember of the manga, Naruto is the only one to have been able to get to Sasuke. And Narutos growth is one of the major points he wants to leave. So both Naruto and Sakura would not be able to change his mind. Do you really think anyone else would?

Not only that, if he was caught deserting Konoha, do you really think they would let him walk around like nothing happened?
 

Antimatter

Well-Known Member
#45
Amberion said:
What would keep him there though?

From what I remember of the manga, Naruto is the only one to have been able to get to Sasuke. And Narutos growth is one of the major points he wants to leave. So both Naruto and Sakura would not be able to change his mind. Do you really think anyone else would?

Not only that, if he was caught deserting Konoha, do you really think they would let him walk around like nothing happened?
No, they most certainty would not. That would be indeed, a huge divergence point.

Given what we know about the council now, and Danzo, this could result in some very harsh punishment, as well as, perhaps, Obito making an earlier attempt to get at him. Danzo might try to pull him into root, and manipulate him, just like he worked around the Hokages back with Itachi.

At best, Sasuke's under house arrest until his loyalty can be proven. At worse, He's forced out of the job as a ninja, or imprisoned for a time.

For Naruto, His whole motivation changes from 'get sasuke back' to ' stop akatsuki'. Could radically change his training over the timeskip, as hes not training to bring back a teammate, but to stop a bunch of A and S rank ninja.

Sakura's a bit more complex. Her crush is still there, but his status/fame is all but gone. She might play it off as youthful mistakes, but eventually she'll be forced to face the truth, depending on what happens to Sasuke.
 

twin blade

Well-Known Member
#46
Shirotsume said:
Yeah, I remember that. Sakura used her goddamn head instead of acting like a dumbass and set off a flare when she found Sasuke trying to leave.
Any chance you recall the title?
 

Dunstan

Well-Known Member
#47
seitora said:
Another divergence point I guess could be the start of the second exam.

There's 26 teams, and they're supposedly evenly spaced around the perimeter of the Forest of Death. Assuming the Forest of Death is a perfect circle and it was said to be 10km to the centre of the forest, that means a 62.8km perimeter.

Simply station the teams around in a different order. Perhaps Naruto and Gaara encounter each other a lot quicker?
With how much luck plays into something like that test, you could have just about anything happen.

Like have another team be with team 7 when their attacked.

Or have less teams pass the forest, so they don't get an early look at their opponents abilities.

Just something as little as Gaara getting hungry enough to go to the tower quicker could let another team make it into the next round.

Hell if you go back a little, if the Naruto in the fic has already changed even a little, then there might of not even of been as many teams in the second round in the first place.
 
#48
Forest of Death is BIG... what if Sasuke did awake before Team Sound got there?
 

Shirotsume

Not The Goddamn @dmin
#50
Gaara of the Desert said:
twin blade said:
Shirotsume said:
Yeah, I remember that. Sakura used her goddamn head instead of acting like a dumbass and set off a flare when she found Sasuke trying to leave.
Any chance you recall the title?
Seconded.
No, I don't, but I can recall how it went down if that helps- Sakura has been training more/with someone, so when this all goes down she sets off a signal instead. Backup arrives and that seems to be the end, but instead the sound four slam in and kill some of the backup- after a little bit of fighting though, tsunade comes down.

I'm fairly certain she just bitchslaps Tayuya into a building after Tayuya gets mouthy, and the sound four is like okbye.
 
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