Naruto New Divergence Points

MinusMagnus

Well-Known Member
#51
Shirotsume said:
Gaara of the Desert said:
twin blade said:
Shirotsume said:
Yeah, I remember that. Sakura used her goddamn head instead of acting like a dumbass and set off a flare when she found Sasuke trying to leave.
Any chance you recall the title?
Seconded.
No, I don't, but I can recall how it went down if that helps- Sakura has been training more/with someone, so when this all goes down she sets off a signal instead. Backup arrives and that seems to be the end, but instead the sound four slam in and kill some of the backup- after a little bit of fighting though, tsunade comes down.

I'm fairly certain she just bitchslaps Tayuya into a building after Tayuya gets mouthy, and the sound four is like okbye.
That is "Trial by Ninja", I don't know if it is in ff.net since I saw it on the SB forum. It is really cool but, in my opinion, goes a little overkill with what Sakura learned on the two months before the last phase of the Chuunin exams.
 

Prince Charon

Well-Known Member
#52
MinusMagnus said:
Shirotsume said:
Gaara of the Desert said:
twin blade said:
Shirotsume said:
Yeah, I remember that. Sakura used her goddamn head instead of acting like a dumbass and set off a flare when she found Sasuke trying to leave.
Any chance you recall the title?
Seconded.
No, I don't, but I can recall how it went down if that helps- Sakura has been training more/with someone, so when this all goes down she sets off a signal instead. Backup arrives and that seems to be the end, but instead the sound four slam in and kill some of the backup- after a little bit of fighting though, tsunade comes down.

I'm fairly certain she just bitchslaps Tayuya into a building after Tayuya gets mouthy, and the sound four is like okbye.
That is "Trial by Ninja", I don't know if it is in ff.net since I saw it on the SB forum. It is really cool but, in my opinion, goes a little overkill with what Sakura learned on the two months before the last phase of the Chuunin exams.
Is that <a href='http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8235774/1/Trial-by-Ninja' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>this one</a>?
 
#53
Hmm, their are some that I haven't read or heard mentioned. For instance.

1)What if Naruto had taken both Kakkashi's and Haku's motto's to heart. To the point of doing whatever it takes to protect his precious people and never abandoning them, and instead of using therapy-no-jutsu on Gaara he kills him.

This would in affect screw over the Rescue Sasuke mission and all of the Shippuden events, possibly even changing Naruto's personality and choices as well. Hell he might even have a crisis when Sasuke defects and has to choose between the village or Sasuke.

2)Naruto never being their in the clearing in the morning when Haku gives Naruto his Nindo, which in turn would mean that Naruto would never have those ideals to fall back on possibly causing a total shift in charatcer.

3)Sasuke never getting to Naruto in time when both Kisame and Itachi appear to capture Naruto. Which could mean that Naruto is captured and Jiraiya is to late to do anythig about it. Making him have to choose between getting Tsunade or going after Naruto.

4) Obito takes the Hirashin Kunai from Kakkashi and uses it when he go's to save Rin, which leads up to Minato murdering the Iwa shinobi and Tobi never coming into existance. Probably causing a rewrite of the whole series that would in turn lead to the Uchiha not dearing to cause a coup d'etat with Minato their as a deterrant and Naruto never becomes the Kyubi Jinchuriki.

5) Yahiko never dies and the Akatsuki remain the peace seeking Organization from before, possibly with Nagato being on a default stage of his red haired super version from when he absorbed the Hachibis and some of Kurama's chakra. (I think)

6) Orochimaru, Itachi, and Danzo remain loyal to the leaf completely possibly to the point where their is a coup d'etat that fails from the Uchiha. (No Sasuke or Uchiha being more viciously scorned by evryone).

7) Naruto is set up against Gaara instead of Neji and Kakkashi sends him to either Gai (Speed possibly Gates) or Tenzo (Kyubi possibly water jutsu) instead of Ebisu.
 

seitora

Well-Known Member
#54
I did idea #5 for one of my stories (just Google search my user name) and handwaved the whole existence of Madara away.

Needs a rewrite though, haven't touched it in a couple of years.
 
#55
seitora said:
I did idea #5 for one of my stories (just Google search my user name) and handwaved the whole existence of Madara away.

Needs a rewrite though, haven't touched it in a couple of years.
Off to go read it, I've been looking for divergence fics recently. And looking for an old time travel fic which ends up with Naruto going with Minato's team 7 on the stupid mission that started the whole mess in the first place.
 

Dunstan

Well-Known Member
#56
Hotaru of the 4 Emperors said:
seitora said:
I did idea #5 for one of my stories (just Google search my user name) and handwaved the whole existence of Madara away.

Needs a rewrite though, haven't touched it in a couple of years.
Off to go read it, I've been looking for divergence fics recently. And looking for an old time travel fic which ends up with Naruto going with Minato's team 7 on the stupid mission that started the whole mess in the first place.
<a href='http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3011358/1/' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3011358/1/</a>

This one?
 
#57
No, the one I read only had Naruto go back into the past, but thank you I'm kinda liking the start of this one even if it is a bit difficult to believe Jiraiya bought a time travel seal if I'm reading this right.
 

mortalone

Well-Known Member
#58
Hotaru of the 4 Emperors said:
Hmm, their are some that I haven't read or heard mentioned. For instance.

1)What if Naruto had taken both Kakkashi's and Haku's motto's to heart. To the point of doing whatever it takes to protect his precious people and never abandoning them, and instead of using therapy-no-jutsu on Gaara he kills him.

This would in affect screw over the Rescue Sasuke mission and all of the Shippuden events, possibly even changing Naruto's personality and choices as well. Hell he might even have a crisis when Sasuke defects and has to choose between the village or Sasuke.

2)Naruto never being their in the clearing in the morning when Haku gives Naruto his Nindo, which in turn would mean that Naruto would never have those ideals to fall back on possibly causing a total shift in charatcer.

3)Sasuke never getting to Naruto in time when both Kisame and Itachi appear to capture Naruto. Which could mean that Naruto is captured and Jiraiya is to late to do anythig about it. Making him have to choose between getting Tsunade or going after Naruto.

4) Obito takes the Hirashin Kunai from Kakkashi and uses it when he go's to save Rin, which leads up to Minato murdering the Iwa shinobi and Tobi never coming into existance. Probably causing a rewrite of the whole series that would in turn lead to the Uchiha not dearing to cause a coup d'etat with Minato their as a deterrant and Naruto never becomes the Kyubi Jinchuriki.

5) Yahiko never dies and the Akatsuki remain the peace seeking Organization from before, possibly with Nagato being on a default stage of his red haired super version from when he absorbed the Hachibis and some of Kurama's chakra. (I think)

6) Orochimaru, Itachi, and Danzo remain loyal to the leaf completely possibly to the point where their is a coup d'etat that fails from the Uchiha. (No Sasuke or Uchiha being more viciously scorned by evryone).

7) Naruto is set up against Gaara instead of Neji and Kakkashi sends him to either Gai (Speed possibly Gates) or Tenzo (Kyubi possibly water jutsu) instead of Ebisu.
1) I'm pretty sure Naruto did take these lessons to heart and I don't think either lesson would be cause for killing Gaara.

2) A more immediate effect would be Naruto badly hurting or possibly killing Haku at the bridge. Naruto's Kyuubi aura disappeared the moment Haku's mask broke. This time it wouldn't.

3) I'd be surprised if Jiraiya lost Naruto so easily, but there would be a huge change in Sasuke.

4) Is good and and plausible, but who do you make the enemy?

5) When did Nagato absorb biju chakra?
 

Dunstan

Well-Known Member
#59
Hotaru of the 4 Emperors said:
No, the one I read only had Naruto go back into the past, but thank you I'm kinda liking the start of this one even if it is a bit difficult to believe Jiraiya bought a time travel seal if I'm reading this right.
It's definitely a "because... why not" kind of plot. :snigger:
 

Antimatter

Well-Known Member
#61
You know how Naruto almost killed Jiraya the first time he went four-tails?

What if Jiraya hadn't been so lucky. He survives just long enough to seal Naruto back up, and pass on some final words, and maybe use the last of his chakra to summon some toads, and then, that's it. He's gone.
 

Antimatter

Well-Known Member
#62
another one:

1. When Naruto hits Kabuto with a Rasengan, instead of hitting him in the chest, which Kabuto survives, he hits him in the head, and Kabuto, in fact, doesn't make it.

2. Jiraya, ever watchful, notices Tsunade trying to sleep him a micky, and thus, doesn't drink it. So he's at 100% when he fights Orochimaru alongside Tsunade. Which means one hell of a smackdown occurs. Ether Orochimaru, or Kabuto could go down during the fight.

3. Kabuto, instead of just absorbing Orochimaru's remains, resurrects him via the curse seal placed on another of his minions. That means old Snake boy is around at the star of the war, and thus, doesn't allow Kabuto to help Tobi, and in fact, might oppose him and his plans.

4. Kakashi's use of Kamui on Deidara succeeds, and Deidera dies as a result.
 
#63
mortalone said:
Hotaru of the 4 Emperors said:
Hmm, their are some that I haven't read or heard mentioned. For instance.

1)What if Naruto had taken both Kakkashi's and Haku's motto's to heart. To the point of doing whatever it takes to protect his precious people and never abandoning them, and instead of using therapy-no-jutsu on Gaara he kills him.

This would in affect screw over the Rescue Sasuke mission and all of the Shippuden events, possibly even changing Naruto's personality and choices as well. Hell he might even have a crisis when Sasuke defects and has to choose between the village or Sasuke.

2)Naruto never being their in the clearing in the morning when Haku gives Naruto his Nindo, which in turn would mean that Naruto would never have those ideals to fall back on possibly causing a total shift in charatcer.

3)Sasuke never getting to Naruto in time when both Kisame and Itachi appear to capture Naruto. Which could mean that Naruto is captured and Jiraiya is to late to do anythig about it. Making him have to choose between getting Tsunade or going after Naruto.

4) Obito takes the Hirashin Kunai from Kakkashi and uses it when he go's to save Rin, which leads up to Minato murdering the Iwa shinobi and Tobi never coming into existance. Probably causing a rewrite of the whole series that would in turn lead to the Uchiha not dearing to cause a coup d'etat with Minato their as a deterrant and Naruto never becomes the Kyubi Jinchuriki.

5) Yahiko never dies and the Akatsuki remain the peace seeking Organization from before, possibly with Nagato being on a default stage of his red haired super version from when he absorbed the Hachibis and some of Kurama's chakra. (I think)

6) Orochimaru, Itachi, and Danzo remain loyal to the leaf completely possibly to the point where their is a coup d'etat that fails from the Uchiha. (No Sasuke or Uchiha being more viciously scorned by evryone).

7) Naruto is set up against Gaara instead of Neji and Kakkashi sends him to either Gai (Speed possibly Gates) or Tenzo (Kyubi possibly water jutsu) instead of Ebisu.
1) I'm pretty sure Naruto did take these lessons to heart and I don't think either lesson would be cause for killing Gaara.

2) A more immediate effect would be Naruto badly hurting or possibly killing Haku at the bridge. Naruto's Kyuubi aura disappeared the moment Haku's mask broke. This time it wouldn't.

3) I'd be surprised if Jiraiya lost Naruto so easily, but there would be a huge change in Sasuke.

4) Is good and and plausible, but who do you make the enemy?

5) When did Nagato absorb biju chakra?
1) I meant as in Naruto takes them to a more radical level, possibly Danzo like, kinda.

5) Nagato absorbed it during his match with Naruto. The one where Itachi took back control of his own body from Kabuto.
 

Schema

Well-Known Member
#64
1) What if the Third Hokage sealed Orochimaru first, but didn't manage to seal the first. Evil, or good, you choose.

2) What if Zabuza succeeded in his first rebellion? No more "wave" incident, and some interesting consequences in the back end.

3) What if Oonoki demanded the Fourth marry someone as a condition for the war to end.

4) Kiba beats Naruto in the prelims.

5) Kakashi tells Naruto who his family was during Wave.

6) The third doesn't have a grandson... but a granddaughter.
 

seitora

Well-Known Member
#65
Schema said:
6) The third doesn't have a grandson... but a granddaughter.
totally an excuse for more lolis right :rolleyes:


also

What if we didn't get the Great Snake Escape bullshit and Sasuke actually died in Deidara's suicide jutsu?
 

Antimatter

Well-Known Member
#66
Schema said:
1) What if the Third Hokage sealed Orochimaru first, but didn't manage to seal the first. Evil, or good, you choose.

2) What if Zabuza succeeded in his first rebellion? No more "wave" incident, and some interesting consequences in the back end.

3) What if Oonoki demanded the Fourth marry someone as a condition for the war to end.

4) Kiba beats Naruto in the prelims.

5) Kakashi tells Naruto who his family was during Wave.

6) The third doesn't have a grandson... but a granddaughter.
1. This could be interesting. I'm not sure if they would still be under his control or not. Would be interested to know why they don't just immediately pull a madara and free themselves from the jutsu's control. That would seriously wreak Orochimaru's plans.

2. Who's the Kage then, Zabuza? Is the new mist hostle to leaf or friendly?

3. Would depend on who he marries. Was Minato even the 4th at that point in time? If he never marries Kushina, does she still get pregnant with Naruto?

4. Interesting idea there. Would Naruto ever have met Jiraya and learned summoning and so on?

5. Could lead to him wanting to know more about his family, and ask some hard questions of the third. If Naruto comes calling for his families legacy, parents jutsu scrolls, etc, would he get them?

6. Not a huge change, outside a bromance becoming a crush. The third trying to set up his granddaughter with the son of the forth could be an interesting subplot. Granted, it would take many a year for any romance to really spawn, given their ages at the start.
 

Shirotsume

Not The Goddamn @dmin
#67
Schema said:
1) What if the Third Hokage sealed Orochimaru first, but didn't manage to seal the first. Evil, or good, you choose.

2) What if Zabuza succeeded in his first rebellion? No more "wave" incident, and some interesting consequences in the back end.

3) What if Oonoki demanded the Fourth marry someone as a condition for the war to end.

4) Kiba beats Naruto in the prelims.

5) Kakashi tells Naruto who his family was during Wave.

6) The third doesn't have a grandson... but a granddaughter.
4: The person getting their asses collectively handed to them on a silver platter don't get to make demands.
 

sinewyk

Well-Known Member
#68
Shirotsume said:
Schema said:
4) Kiba beats Naruto in the prelims.
4: The person getting their asses collectively handed to them on a silver platter don't get to make demands.
What do you mean ?
 

Knyght

The Collector
#69
He meant the third option. Onoki shouldn't be demanding anything from the guy who curbstomped his country, basically.
 

Dunstan

Well-Known Member
#70
Schema said:
4) Kiba beats Naruto in the prelims.
But as to this...

Doesn't really seem fair to Naruto, as the only reason he even did as bad as he did, was the seal messing up most of his fighting style.

Not to say it wouldn't work as a "Divergence Point", just that it seems a little "and then life takes a crap on Naruto... Again.". :huh.:
 
#71
Dunstan said:
Schema said:
4) Kiba beats Naruto in the prelims.
But as to this...

Doesn't really seem fair to Naruto, as the only reason he even did as bad as he did, was the seal messing up most of his fighting style.

Not to say it wouldn't work as a "Divergence Point", just that it seems a little "and then life takes a crap on Naruto... Again.". :huh.:
the seal didn't mess his fighting style, only his chakra control.
 

Watashiwa

Administrator
Staff member
#72
ankokudaishogun said:
Dunstan said:
Schema said:
4) Kiba beats Naruto in the prelims.
But as to this...

Doesn't really seem fair to Naruto, as the only reason he even did as bad as he did, was the seal messing up most of his fighting style.

Not to say it wouldn't work as a "Divergence Point", just that it seems a little "and then life takes a crap on Naruto... Again.". :huh.:
the seal didn't mess his fighting style, only his chakra control.
Right. What was messing with his fighting style was staying up for hours making dozens/hundreds of clones while his teammates+Kabuto sat around to wait for the Mist morons to get bored.
 

Dunstan

Well-Known Member
#73
ankokudaishogun said:
Dunstan said:
Schema said:
4) Kiba beats Naruto in the prelims.
But as to this...

Doesn't really seem fair to Naruto, as the only reason he even did as bad as he did, was the seal messing up most of his fighting style.

Not to say it wouldn't work as a "Divergence Point", just that it seems a little "and then life takes a crap on Naruto... Again.". :huh.:
the seal didn't mess his fighting style, only his chakra control.
While "fighting style" might not be exactly what it was messing with, it is part of it.

As the battle at the bridge shows "chakra control" effects just about everything a ninja does.

With it messed up, he's not punching as hard, not moving as fast, and not able to make as many shadow clones...

Just what part of his "fighting style" is left?
 
#74
The only reason Kiba even did as good as he did was because he was all fresh and ready for the match while Naruto was completly tired out, chakra control shot to hell, injured somewhat from the forest, and was also mostly out of chakra from the fight with the mist shinobi. Out of everyone Kiba was/is the joke character.
 

Knyght

The Collector
#75
And having the Kyuubi suppressed/sealed greatly limits how much chakra he has in general. Looking at it as a whole, Naruto was pretty damn good to pull that off. Even if he only managed a win of because of 'that' happening. <_<
 
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