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cilrais said:
GregtheBunny said:
And since im asking, how do you guys get 3k+ stam for worldkais? Granted I don't have any bromides but my base stam is around 1300 with dayroll team and tacos gives another 750 stam on average, I blame bad luck on TACOS. Is it based on getting full appetite awesome?
if tacos are really only giving 750 stamina then you must be missing a ton of appetite.

750 stam = 6 tacos = 360 appetite, you should have way more than that, like 5 or 6 tacos more
Indeed... Let's count it up shall we?

160 base as Sannin
+50 Hollow Leg
+20 Nonja Chef
+20 Sharktooth Necklace
+40 Big Mouth
+30 Enormous Buffet
+30 Tasty Pastries
+50 Palmface Bingo
+50 Cipher overnight

That'd make a total of 450 appetite everyday at least, even without Bottomless Appetite. If you're contemplating WorldKai, you should have all of these, plus probably the Quality Cookware MajorKai drop, which should translate to 80 more appetite (100 if you have Big Bo lv2) from ramen, more if you get lucky with Sue lv2. Possibly another 30 if you're Legacy... That means you should be scarfing down a good 9-10 tacos a day at least, more if TACOS' 20% refund chance with tacos trigger...

At these numbers, 8 tacos give 1080 stamina, and each progressive taco will give more stamina than gold potions do. I know that my usual stamina intake after my daily setup (bingo, ramen, bonuses, etc), I'd usually have a good 3-4k stamina to play around with, more if I get lucky, and frankly you should too...

I'd suggest going over all the + appetite stuff and figuring what you're missing, because for such a small amount of stamina, you have to be missing a lot...
 
Yeah i havent gotten that far into pizzawitch yet. This is one of those plan ahead things. Since im in a tier 2 village no majorkai either ><
 

Munch

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GregtheBunny said:
Yeah i havent gotten that far into pizzawitch yet. This is one of those plan ahead things. Since im in a tier 2 village no majorkai either ><
Phasefarm for a day or two, buy relevant mkai drops.

ALTERNATIVELY go to a good village.
 
Whoa. Sadly, even after visiting this forum on and off for... forever... (just recently made a new account, couldn't remember the login for my old one when I got a new comp so I made a new one) I never really bothered looking outside the Naruto section. Total epic fail on my part.

I've already spent an hour reading various pages of this thread. Talk about history. And to think I'm only approaching the one year mark myself...


On the plus side, I can say that I think my village manages to do rather well for itself, considering some of the things I have read. I'm also curious to see what McMasters decided to implement from my Custom Kaiju ideas. (I think we're 1 or 2 Kaiju away from being able to summon myself, got Fayt yesterday and Jadian today.)
 
Hidden village is going boom. Looking for a new village now.
 

B.B. Rain

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I've recently hit a bit of a plateu, generally speaking, so I'm now turning my attention and Awesome to BillyCon.

I've hit level four or better in just about all the common stats, but I was hoping for some advice about the minigame sections: Rave, Idol, Cosplay, Video Game Tourney,

-I've got 13 points to distribute in the Tournament, having all bonuses mentioned in the Wiki (+10 Cool, +6 Sleep, 5 Videogaming Skill), but I haven't been able to win yet with my distribution in the rounds. I understand a certain amount of RGN and Luck play a part, but is there any reccomended distribution from past or repeat winners?

-I've got Level 4 Cosplay, Combat Sewing, Drama, & Posing, as well as a complete set of Strawberry Cosplay. Do I need to equip the Cosplay before entering the Tournament, or will that be done automatically? If I can peice together a higher combination of bonuses with pieces from three different costumes, should I?

-The Billy Idol section of the wiki is slightly confusing. If I've gotten to the field, and have Mr. Smith, but fail to obtain the Rising Star effect from Rave, will I still progress to The Light Fantastic Quest? If I don't have Rising Star, is there any special bonus (not Sleep or Cool, but an unlock or permanent effect) to going anyway?
 

jwolf0

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B.B. Rain said:
I've recently hit a bit of a plateu, generally speaking, so I'm now turning my attention and Awesome to BillyCon.

I've hit level four or better in just about all the common stats, but I was hoping for some advice about the minigame sections: Rave, Idol, Cosplay, Video Game Tourney,

-I've got 13 points to distribute in the Tournament, having all bonuses mentioned in the Wiki (+10 Cool, +6 Sleep, 5 Videogaming Skill), but I haven't been able to win yet with my distribution in the rounds. I understand a certain amount of RGN and Luck play a part, but is there any reccomended distribution from past or repeat winners?

-I've got Level 4 Cosplay, Combat Sewing, Drama, & Posing, as well as a complete set of Strawberry Cosplay. Do I need to equip the Cosplay before entering the Tournament, or will that be done automatically? If I can peice together a higher combination of bonuses with pieces from three different costumes, should I?

-The Billy Idol section of the wiki is slightly confusing. If I've gotten to the field, and have Mr. Smith, but fail to obtain the Rising Star effect from Rave, will I still progress to The Light Fantastic Quest? If I don't have Rising Star, is there any special bonus (not Sleep or Cool, but an unlock or permanent effect) to going anyway?
-Distributing points in the VGT: I tended to cheat slightly and put a little less Skillz in the 1st round on the chance I came across someone who didn't show up. Also you may want to spend some time Wandering beforehand to pick up some Cheese.

-Cosplay: DON'T PUT ON YOUR COSTUME UNTIL JUST BEFORE THE TOURNEY. The overplayed parts/combo thing counts every piece that was worn during each hour of the Con. You will probably lose out on the chance of finding the Internet Famous Wander, but better that than a part that gets no points. Along those lines, yes you have to put on the parts manually - the tourney won't do it for you.
Full Combo vs. Best available parts: It really depends. Check the rolls for each and average them out, but I'd think the full combo normally wins out.

And if you do win, make sure to actually collect your reward on Day 3.

Rave/Billy Idol: Until you get Rising Star you can't get The Light Fantastic effect, so there is no point to going to Billy Idol until then. There are no extra effects until then for Billy Idol so you might as well stay away unless you absolutely need the Sleep/Cool bonuses for the Rave.
And BTW, you can't get past a 1600 score on the Rave without having Prime Target as well.
 

B.B. Rain

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For Cosplay; I haven't much familiarity with this sort of math...

(2d7-1)+(2d4+1)+(4d8+3)+(2d8+2)

vs.

(4d7+3)+(4d8+1)+([4d8+3] OR [4d5+6])

The fourth () in the first line being the complete costume effect, and the [] OR [] in the last being my lack of familiarity with precisely which piece is more valuable.
As for the rest...

-Is there a hard cap to how many Rave dances I can perform, beyond Sleep, or can I rest up and perform 15?

-For VGT, how about: 2, 3, 4, 4? Assuming I can't find Cheese w/out over-depeleting Sleep.

-Billy Idol=Useless w/out Rising Star. I'll pass on using it for sleep, since I can get 8-10 in the two hours in my room depending on Flow.

-The Cosplay event takes place before the Rave, but the rewards are calculated and com after Dayroll. Could wearing my Full Cosplay for the rave have a retroactive negative effect on my Cosplay reward?

-I was about to comment on the totals of the score, then I finally internalized the notice that Rising Star/Prime Target and Gloslinger were prerequisites for the reward's existence, not needed to reach the scores. Well, the wiki calculator says I should make at least 680 points per dance, and with a potential for 18 dances, I should manage Rising Star this time, at least.

-Any idea on how many VGT are required to get you Prime Target? I believe this will be my fifth or sixth Tourney, so...

Thanks for your advice. It's already been very helpful.
 

jwolf0

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(2d7-1)+(2d4+1)+(4d8+3)+(2d8+2)

vs.

(4d7+3)+(4d8+1)+([4d8+3] OR [4d5+6])

The fourth () in the first line being the complete costume effect, and the [] OR [] in the last being my lack of familiarity with precisely which piece is more valuable.
Using 2d7-1 as an example, it says "roll 2 7-sided dice, then subtract 1 from the result." Your minimum possible roll is 1 (1+1-1), your maximum roll is 13 (7+7-1), and your average roll is 7 (4+4-1). I prefer to use the average when comparing.

Strawberry: 7+6+19+11=43
Best non-matching: 15+14+(15 or 18)=44 or 47

Go with the non-matching parts, Strawberry's head and body suck this week.

-Is there a hard cap to how many Rave dances I can perform, beyond Sleep, or can I rest up and perform 15?
15 (max Sleep) plus your level of Flipping Out. Also, the most important level for a Rave skill is 4 due to the mastery bonus.

-For VGT, how about: 2, 3, 4, 4? Assuming I can't find Cheese w/out over-depeleting Sleep.
That's fine, a lot of it is individual taste.

-The Cosplay event takes place before the Rave, but the rewards are calculated and com after Dayroll. Could wearing my Full Cosplay for the rave have a retroactive negative effect on my Cosplay reward?
No, it wouldn't. It's calculated once each tourney is filled with 16 players. You just don't know the results until Day 3.

-Any idea on how many VGT are required to get you Prime Target? I believe this will be my fifth or sixth Tourney, so...
Mmm, I'm not sure exactly. I thought it was 11 non-successful tournies, but I can't swear to it. You'd still like to win though, just to get The Beast Trophy and unlock the Fruits of Liberty quest.

And you're very welcome, good luck!
 
Since we are sitting on a massive ton of resources, we are changing our RP policy to 90% to reflect that.
The new 90% return rate means 27 RP per Basic Resource and 72 RP for Advanced Resources will be given to the donating villager.

Feel free to join Pirates and take advantage of our new policy.
Especially if your not currently in a TFF village.


-End Recruitment Spiel
 

B.B. Rain

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Okay. Got 'Prime Target,' today, and I figure this is...somewhere between the sixth and twelth VGT I've been to.

I'll still keep trying to win, I want The Beast, after all, but I'm glad I can move on in the Rave.
 

Garahs

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This has probably been answered, and buried, in here, but could someone tell me a good field to farm up core? I'm working on the final three skill checks before the eleven tail, but getting lackluster return.
 

Marth

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Garahs said:
This has probably been answered, and buried, in here, but could someone tell me a good field to farm up core?? I'm working on the final three skill checks before the eleven tail, but getting lackluster return.
The problem with giving advice on fields is that they change daily. That is to say, the success percentage of getting core/bits on a given field could be 90% one day, then 40% the next. I used to use one particular field for farming the early stages of r00t, only to have it give me almost nothing for three days in a row.


tl;dr- Fields change daily. So there really is no "best" place. Look around and find one that seems to have a high success chance and grind the hell out of it.
 
Personally I stuck with Corrupted Delicious Dance Floor. It has a chance of dropping 500 bit mega actions and doing one 50x/55x mission and hitting that set me for all the bit rewards you can buy and all my phase fights.
 

jwolf0

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As with all things, it depends on your levels but Corrupted Passed Over Dance Floor is my default Field. It always stays within that 210-220 difficulty range which gives you Last Warriors (+1500 Bits). I know that's not what you're asking about Garahs, but you will need those Bits later.
 

zerohour

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Anyone got tips for Glowslinging? It's really grinding on my nerves trying to beat the parking lot boss, especially since I don't want to grind for a month to get level nine on my stats.
 

B.B. Rain

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Well, let's run through the basics:

-Make sure Mr. Smith 2 and Bruce Sr. 2 are in your team.
-Make sure you've changed your equipped Items/Abilities to reflect a Boss Fight, rather then more Grinding (i.e., no Discerning Eye, Hit Confirm, etc.)
-Both Autoguard and Charge are set. Even if you don't have an HP of 50, it's rather useful. At least Autoguard, if Charge's +1 Damage doesn't seem worth the loss of HP.
-Maybe not every stat has to be level 9 (though it wouldn't hurt, and they should be at least 7), but I certainly hope you've grinded yourself to equal HP or better, at the very least just one less.

It's been a month or so since I fought that specific Boss, and my memory isn't the best, but among other things, for in fight strategy, I:

-Had Aerial Rave equipped and whenever I hit 1 Bar, spammed Noisy Cricket.
-Use Frame Advantage religously.
-Be quick to use Wake-Up Reversal when the opponent's been building up your Risk, but if your Spin outweighs it, you can wait until they've set you to 0 with Wave of Discord, which they'll usually use when your Spin is 5. Before you start building back up, there's nothing for the -1 Spin to take.
-If you've a Spin of 4, & a low Risk, switch to Tech Punish for a bit. That will help a great deal.

You don't need everything leveled to the max: I don't use Guard Crush, yet, so it's usually lagging 2-3 levels behind my other skills. I also level my Attack skills in a priority order: Frame Advantage, Wake-Up Reversal, Tech Punish, Alpha Cancel, in that order.

If that particular strategy doesn't work, I'd reccomend the Wiki's: Frame Advantage to a 3-4 Spin, spam Tech Punish until they drop you to 1 through Guard Crush, then repeat Step 1.

Actually, on second though, try the wiki's first. I probably forgot minor changes, since I'm still using the above strategy, even though I know I've used something nearly identical since the Ice Cream Shop.

I'm currently grinding Rooftop to get enough Talent for Limited Blade Works and the others, then to level up, before moving to Rickety Bridge.
 

zerohour

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Alright, on to the next issue, which is raising my Con Stats.

Need to raise the following stats by the following levels so i get the mastery bonus:

Artsiness 1
Wrangling 2
Rocking 3
Silence 2
Macking 2
Chillaxing 1

What panels/methods are the best way to raise those? I'm especially interested in Rocking, since I don't think I've seen it.

Especially interested in raising Artsiness since it gives me about 500 extra points
 

B.B. Rain

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Now, this one I might not be so helpful at.

First, I cannot strongly stress enough how useful the BillyCon script was when I focused on grinding my BillyCon stats.

I believe <a href='http://www.animecubed.com/billy/forum/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=14583' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>this</a> is the script in question. If not, it should still be useful.

Second, I've mostly seen Rocking as a reward stat in the lower, pale-golden colored panels with music-themed titles.

For the most part, I reccomend: get the BillyCon Awesome tool on level 3, and settle in for a long, long, long session of grinding. This won't be done quickly, even if you devote that, the most efficient pre-strategized playstyle imaginable, and four +10 Flow Boosters per Con.

As for specific panels to gain specific stats...The panel arrangement varies by Con, from what I understand, so there are a lot. Bear with me on this.

First, I strongly reccomend checking the wiki pages on the subject.

The <a href='http://bvs.wikidot.com/billycon' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>main page</a> is mostly useful as ageneral reference, though it details which stats are affected by the Last-Minute Bargain, at the end of the Con, which you might want to think about leaving con-money for. There are Dealer's Room items that grant XP, but you can usually make more in an equivalent timeframe at panels if you're careful and keep your stats (sleep, stink, nom) near peak.

<a href='http://bvs.wikidot.com/billycon:wander' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Wander,</a> as the name suggests, handles the various rewards from Wandering, as well as the modifiers that enable possible rewards. It requires time, sleep, and/or Flow, and it can vary with penalties instead of rewards, or useless ones for your current condition or purposes, but it's still something to keep in mind: you tend to have either too many of various stats, or too little, and if you're properly set up for grinding, it's usually the former, at which point a few good wanders can net you anywhere from 15-100 XP per, with a total of up to several hundred (give or take a thousand). It's more likely you'll fall into the 15-45XP range, if you want to grind stats for main events like the VGT or Cosplay, but it'll still be something, and every little bit helps.

Now, <a href='http://bvs.wikidot.com/billycon:events' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Events</a> is probably the closest tool to the information you wanted. It's a bit large, but that's because there's a lot of events/panels, and there are multiple bits of information and text with them for the wiki-makers to quote. If the script I provide doesn't work out, or you can't/won't use scripts, you'll need to reference the table here quite a bit. It should give you a fairly accurate idea of what the rewards are for each panel, allowing you to use them and the schedule to plot out an effective day.

I reccomend, as general strategy, pick the lower options when setting up the Con (Con Hotel, Own Room, Backstage Pass). It'll cost you money, but the rewards will be useful in preparing you for each days' events, which leeds to advice number two:

Don't take the overnight panels and stay up. The overnight panels can give some fairly appealing rewards, but the loss of overnight room bonuses aren't worth it, on average.

Next, keep three food, two extra clothes, and a couple items. I reccomend Giant Foam Hand and either Sunglasses or Handy Notebook, all from the Dealer's Room, the either-or depending on your playstyle preferences. You can use the Food multiple times a day for no time & for free, so you usually end up using them all either one one day, or over the course of the full Con. The Extra Clothes, however, can only be used once per day to remove accumulated Stink, and depending on your success, you can usually manage it well enough on either the first or third day to go without. The last few items are more generally useful for additional XP.

Now, big events. Cosplay, Video Game Tourney, Rave, Billy Idol. If your stats are low enough you want to grind, they might not be high enough for these, and you have to play through the first day (and most of the second) a certain way if you want to improve your chances of winning/maxing these contests, and a different way if you want to build your skills, which is fastest (though it might be more accurate to say 'least slow,') with regular Panels, in the long run.

However, the events usually give you a semi-decent amount of XP in a couple core stats no matter your condition, which can be a reliable way to build levels if you're willing to take the longer view, and Billy Idol grants +6 Sleep and +1 Cool no matter what, which could be useful for either the Rave or a few end-of-day panels. It's all a question of time vs. reliability.

Finally, if you can start it, but haven't already, I strongly reccomend playing Glowslinging in the background. I didn't, choosing to ignore it to focus on con-building until I could switch from Intent Observation 3 to Dramatic Battler 3, or accumulate enough awesome to use both; and more importantly, switch to using +Duel Boosters rather then +Flow.

That was a major mistake. Even if I was limited to one low-level, fumbling, usually losing duel each day, I would be so much further along in Glowslinging then I am now, as that one duel a day would have added up to a considerable amount, over the seven months it took me to get most of my BillyCon stats to level 4. I might even be done with Glowslinging, and into the 11-Prong Seal, or possibly Hero's Quest by now, if I hadn't limited myself to 'Best Possible or Nothing.'

And yes, this really will take a while, even precisely planned.

I'm sorry I'm not bigger on specifics, but I hope this will be of some use.

EDIT: Whoops. Forgot the first thing I responded on was how to improve your Glowslinging play. My bad. Still, even if you can't place enough Awesome for both and whatever else you like to have a bonus in, focus on the grind of BillyCon and resign yourself to a still stretched out Glowslinging build.
 

zerohour

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Thanks/ I'm grinding those stats up to four so I get a mastery bonus for the Rave. I'm hoping to get it doesn't over the next two weekends so I don't have to wait to beat Mikuboss 4.

Need about 700 to level Chillaxing, and 1400 to level artsiness. Chillaxing is definitely possible, Artsiness less so.
 

cilrais

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zerohour said:
Alright, on to the next issue, which is raising my Con Stats.

Need to raise the following stats by the following levels so i get the mastery bonus:

Artsiness? 1
Wrangling 2
Rocking 3
Silence 2
Macking 2
Chillaxing 1

What panels/methods are the best way to raise those?? I'm especially interested in Rocking, since I don't think I've seen it.

Especially interested in raising Artsiness since it gives me about 500 extra points
if you already have the other rave skills you didn't list at or above 4 that's more than enough to have a decent shot at 5000 points for the trophy
 
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