Naruto Of the Forest

[Antimatter]

Why would having to suppress the fox weaken naruto's wood jutsu? I mean, it is still sealed, for the majority. It only bothers him in canon when he gets highly emotional.

If anything, i'd think the same thing would apply here, so hed only lose control of the wood if his blood has to start working on suppressing the fox in times of emotional distress.

 

[Knyght]

I don't really think it'd happen anymore but that's close to what I meant anyway. Just that the original point was that the Kyuubi would be actively pushing his chakra through whenever Naruto's trying a Mokuton jutsu instead of it only being pulled out when he gets angry. So some chakra gets diverted as it works to suppress the Kyuubi's thus weakening the wood jutsu.

 

[Antimatter]

I don't really think it'd happen anymore but that's close to what I meant anyway. Just that the original point was that the Kyuubi would be actively pushing his chakra through whenever Naruto's trying a Mokuton jutsu instead of it only being pulled out when he gets angry. So some chakra gets diverted as it works to suppress the Kyuubi's thus weakening the wood jutsu.

But why? I mean, that doesn't happen in canon when he does jutsu, why would it happen here? The only exception can be when he grows frustrated/is otherwise emotional.

 

[Knyght]

I don't really think it'd happen anymore but that's close to what I meant anyway. Just that the original point was that the Kyuubi would be actively pushing his chakra through whenever Naruto's trying a Mokuton jutsu instead of it only being pulled out when he gets angry. So some chakra gets diverted as it works to suppress the Kyuubi's thus weakening the wood jutsu.

But why? I mean, that doesn't happen in canon when he does jutsu, why would it happen here? The only exception can be when he grows frustrated/is otherwise emotional.

I'd interpret his actions in the manga as just him being opportunistic. He'd send his chakra along when Naruto gets pissed to try and influence him but otherwise wouldn't do anything. The idea here was that he'd be more 'desperate' and try to hinder Naruto's potential by sending chakra every time he whipped out a wood jutsu.

Not that matters because I don't think it'd make sense from Kurama's perspective anyway.

 

[sinewyk]

We don't know how Kyuubi and mokuton would interact. It's to the would-be author's role to chose which interaction is the best for the path he wants to chose.

IMO, maybe I'll finally write a crack piece with a full-blown Mokuton!Naruto doing the chuunin exam, just the forest part for shit and giggles, where he troll/outclass everyone.

 

[Shirotsume]

Hmm. How about this?
From the start, Naruto's Mokuton manifests, in that it suppresses Kyuubi's rage, calms its chakra and keeps it asleep.
However, by doing that, it remains completely invisible, Naruto's chakra is a bit more difficult to control, and he can't actually access either Kyuubi's chakra or the Mokuton. Even if he knew how in the first place.

Then first on the night Mizuki tricks him, his control slips a bit. The Mokuton stops entirely keeping Kyuubi asleep, and his chakra stabilizes just a little bit.
On the bridge though, as he faces Haku's tale, as he struggles with his pain, grief, and the all encompassing sense of loss, Naruto breaks.
In a single moment, he wants to protect everyone, and with that impulse, that pure wish, the Mokuton goes berserk.

Drawing on both Naruto and Kyuubi's chakra, the bloodline follows Naruto's request. The flow of chakra is strong enough to disperse the mist, freezing Zabuza and Kakashi facing each other, revealing Gato and his men, reviving Sasuke out of sheer shock mixed with the life giving energy of the Mokuton.
From the water beneath them, the tip of a tree breaks out. Within moments, it grows taller, ever taller, branches spreading outwards and upwards, crawling in moments over the surface of the bridge and pick up the bodies of all present, only Kakashi and Zabuza managing to even respond from their shock, but are still caught.
A mere minute later, a glowing golden tree towers over the bridge, its roots supporting its pillars, but not crushing them. Atop its branches, Sakura, Sasuke, Kakashi, Zabuza and Haku lie unconscious, all of their wounds entirely healed. Gato and his men weren't as fortunate, as the branches mostly knocked them off the bridge, so all they can do is watch the thing in fear.
On one of the larger branches however, there's an indentation atop, holding a small pool of water, and in it Naruto's sleeping body. Parts are injured, but seem to be healing fairly quickly. And next to him, the only being awake, is a large, golden fox, easily the size of a horse, nine tails dancing around slowly.

I really hope you're joking.

 

[zeebee1]

The last line alone makes me wonder how much he had to bribe someone to write that. Because no one that idiotic could possibly literate.

 

[Knyght]

Reminds me of a fic I read last year where Edo!Hashirama turns into a tree and protects the citizens of Konoha during the invasion.

 

[Cooltony101neo]

I read one fic over on ffnet a few years back where Naruto found out he had mokuton after becoming a genin, and during the timeskip he started experimenting with creating new techniques by combining mokuton and kyuubi's chakra. While he was doing this he disappeared into a section of suna's desert and turned it into another forest of death... fueled and mutated by the kyuubi.

its this <a href='http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3066620/1/Naruto-Mokuzaimusha' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3066620/1/Naruto-Mokuzaimusha</a>

 

[Sdebeli]

Jesus guys it was an idea. No one claimed it was particularly good. In hindsight, it sounds even worse in my head now that I think it over, but seriously...

 

[Cooltony101neo]

it was stupid, heres an idea

its not a bloodline but a sage skill since trees are nature

so naruto has talent to be a sage so i was thinking during that waterfall anime episode shit he drinks some of the sacred water and it boosts his sage talent to use Mokuton like the first, because the first could have been a sage

so it could be a super ultimate sage skill that no one can really learn unless certain requirements are done

 

[Knyght]

That vaguely reminds me of how the Mokuton was originally portrayed. When it was first introduced, instead of a kekkei genkai it was a hijutsu that Hashirama created and was so difficult that only he was able to master it.

 

[Prince Charon]

Personally, I'd rather see a Sakura with Mokuton. With her not-much-above-average stamina (she only seems weak because she's being compared to ridiculously powerful genin like her teammates), she won't be nearly as overpowered as Naruto, but will still be very useful, without making her a med-nin.

 

[Cooltony101neo]

Personally, I'd rather see a Sakura with Mokuton. With her not-much-above-average stamina (she only seems weak because she's being compared to ridiculously powerful genin like her teammates), she won't be nearly as overpowered as Naruto, but will still be very useful, without making her a med-nin.

whos that?

 

[Meinos Kaen]

Random thought before bed.

*Mokuton!Naruto stares in outrage at the phone* "This Sam Raimi dude wants me to do WHAT?!"

 

[ankokudaishogun]

That vaguely reminds me of how the Mokuton was originally portrayed. When it was first introduced, instead of a kekkei genkai it was a hijutsu that Hashirama created and was so difficult that only he was able to master it.

I don't remember it ever being called a hijutsu, but it wouldn't be the first time my memory fails me. Care for a scan?

Personally, I'd rather see a Sakura with Mokuton.

Sakura is better with Rinnegan. Just to have something different, like giving such a powerful dojutsu to somebody who cannot spam it for days before tiring.
Basically, have Sakura forced to micro-manage her abilities while resisting the automatic reflex of Shinra Tensei'd anything going her way because she's a NORMAL genin and a Shinra Tensei would TIRE the fuck out of her.

It would need a certain amount of imagination by the author's part, too, as s\he'd need to find low-cost way to use the Rinnegan

 

[Knyght]

Mixed up my terms. The Mokuton itself was just a ninjutsu but the jutsu Hashirama used against Hiruzen was a hijutsu.

<a href='http://www.narutoforums.com/showpost.php?p=22979630&postcount=181' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Mokuton Jutsu</a> and <a href='http://www.narutoforums.com/showpost.php?p=35164380&postcount=452' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Mokuton Hijutsu</a>.

Sakura is better with Rinnegan. Just to have something different, like giving such a powerful dojutsu to somebody who cannot spam it for days before tiring.
Basically, have Sakura forced to micro-manage her abilities while resisting the automatic reflex of Shinra Tensei'd anything going her way because she's a NORMAL genin and a Shinra Tensei would TIRE the fuck out of her.

It would need a certain amount of imagination by the author's part, too, as s\he'd need to find low-cost way to use the Rinnegan

I doubt she even could doing anything with the Paths anyway. I got the impression Nagato only started consciously using them after Yahiko died so his main strengths would have been the six nature transformations up until then.

At very least he wasn't using the Deva Path before that incident otherwise he probably could have saved Konan with the Bansho Tenin.

 

[zeebee1]

Mokuton!Sakura, or more specifically, Senju!Sakura, is being written.

 

[Knyght]

Which story and does she actually have the Mokuton or just the potential for it? Mokuton!Sakura somehow strikes me as both very fitting and very random.

 

[goldenarms]

Random thought before bed.

*Mokuton!Naruto stares in outrage at the phone* "This Sam Raimi dude wants me to do WHAT?!"

=SNERK=

I don't think that was the wood she was expecting to go down there.

 

[goldenarms]

Personally, I'd rather see a Sakura with Mokuton.

Sakura is better with Rinnegan. Just to have something different, like giving such a powerful dojutsu to somebody who cannot spam it for days before tiring.
Basically, have Sakura forced to micro-manage her abilities while resisting the automatic reflex of Shinra Tensei'd anything going her way because she's a NORMAL genin and a Shinra Tensei would TIRE the fuck out of her.

It would need a certain amount of imagination by the author's part, too, as s\he'd need to find low-cost way to use the Rinnegan

After the reveals of what makes a Rinnegan, I don't really think that's possible without straight up nerfing things. Besides, she could just drain chakra with the Ghost? path. I don't remember the fat Pain's title, but regardless, chakra becomes a non-issue with that power at the ready.

 

[Shirotsume]

All this talk about Senju and Mokuton... I still want to see a Tsunade-style Naruto. I mean, think about this for a moment.

We know Tsunade is straight up super-strong, no techniques or any bullshit. We can conjecture she did this by working out her muscles, and then repairing them herself instead of waiting for her body to do so... over and over and over again. Standard way muscles are made.

Naruto has uberhealing. He can do the same. This is touched on a few times in stories, but only as a way of training FASTER, not training BETTER.

Now add in that things like the Cherry Blossom Explosion (Sakura's chakra-based copy of Tsunade's strength) are possible, and imagine using THAT with the strength you already have.

Now multiply by Kage Bunshin. Each with, basically, spammable, instant Falcon Punch from hell.

I've never, ever seen a taijutsu!Naruto done well. Because a melee focused Naruto would be amazing- just unrelenting power from every direction that never stops.

 

[Knyght]

Given the number of discussions we've been having over this, I'll think I'll just go and make a thread for it later unless someone beats me to it.

Edit: Tbh, that idea could easily fit into this one since Naruto's forte generally lies in a combination of ninjutsu and taijutsu anyway. Here it could be that his fighting style lies in the Mokuton and chakra-enhanced taijutsu.

 

[Antimatter]

All this talk about Senju and Mokuton... I still want to see a Tsunade-style Naruto. I mean, think about this for a moment.

We know Tsunade is straight up super-strong, no techniques or any bullshit. We can conjecture she did this by working out her muscles, and then repairing them herself instead of waiting for her body to do so... over and over and over again. Standard way muscles are made.

Naruto has uberhealing. He can do the same. This is touched on a few times in stories, but only as a way of training FASTER, not training BETTER.

Now add in that things like the Cherry Blossom Explosion (Sakura's chakra-based copy of Tsunade's strength) are possible, and imagine using THAT with the strength you already have.

Now multiply by Kage Bunshin. Each with, basically, spammable, instant Falcon Punch from hell.

I've never, ever seen a taijutsu!Naruto done well. Because a melee focused Naruto would be amazing- just unrelenting power from every direction that never stops.

I thought it was a technique? Sakura attempted to emulate it with less success, when she made her megaton punch like move. where did you read it was purely physical?

 

[Knyght]

For reference:

Konoha Thousand Leaves Collection #24

It would seem Tsunade's "outrageous strength" completely ignores the laws of nature!! The challenge to common sense that is her power is due in no small part to her artful chakra control and fine-tuning. To give things a name, by instantly collecting chakra into her fist and fingers, she obtains a power of destruction bodily strength alone cannot achieve.

Cherry? Blossom Impact (???, Oukashou)

People are wont to recognise this as "superhuman strength," but it's an application of "medical ninjutsu," demanding the ability to concentrate and minute chakra control. In an instant, the highest grade of chakra is kneaded inside the body, and a moment later all of it it is gathered into the right fist!! That chakra is dispersed into the target, together with the impact of the punch, spreading the damage to every nook and corner! Any kind of strength is meaningless before this technique. With the damage done dependent on the amount of chakra used, it is also possible for a skilled shinobi to amass it in their fingertip.