Harry Potter Questions of canon events...

pidl

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Dunstan said:
Just about anything magical can be used as a wand core.

I wonder how basilisk fang would work.... Or hell if you want something with real power how about "wizard hair"? :rofl:
Don't think 'wizard hair' would be all that powerful since it probably falls in the category of wand cores which got replaced by Ollivander's method. Don't see why there would be any power at all in the hair of a wizard since hair is considered dead tissue.
 

Dunstan

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pidl said:
Dunstan said:
Just about anything magical can be used as a wand core.

I wonder how basilisk fang would work.... Or hell if you want something with real power how about "wizard hair"? :rofl:
Don't think 'wizard hair' would be all that powerful since it probably falls in the category of wand cores which got replaced by Ollivander's method. Don't see why there would be any power at all in the hair of a wizard since hair is considered dead tissue.
:hmm: <_< Should I go through the tubule of replacing all "wizard" with "Unicorn" and/or "thestral" and/or "veela", or do you see the problem with what you said? :mellow:
 

pidl

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Dunstan said:
pidl said:
Dunstan said:
Just about anything magical can be used as a wand core.

I wonder how basilisk fang would work.... Or hell if you want something with real power how about "wizard hair"? :rofl:
Don't think 'wizard hair' would be all that powerful since it probably falls in the category of wand cores which got replaced by Ollivander's method. Don't see why there would be any power at all in the hair of a wizard since hair is considered dead tissue.
:hmm: <_< Should I go through the tubule of replacing all "wizard" with "Unicorn" and/or "thestral" and/or "veela", or do you see the problem with what you said? :mellow:
Depends on whether Magical Creatures work the same way as humans, but you're probably right, forget about the dead tissue part :p

But I still think that if a wizard hair was so powerful, every wand would have that as it's core since it's easy to get and would probably also take care of the affinity.
 

Dunstan

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pidl said:
Dunstan said:
pidl said:
Dunstan said:
Just about anything magical can be used as a wand core.

I wonder how basilisk fang would work.... Or hell if you want something with real power how about "wizard hair"? :rofl:
Don't think 'wizard hair' would be all that powerful since it probably falls in the category of wand cores which got replaced by Ollivander's method. Don't see why there would be any power at all in the hair of a wizard since hair is considered dead tissue.
:hmm: <_< Should I go through the tubule of replacing all "wizard" with "Unicorn" and/or "thestral" and/or "veela", or do you see the problem with what you said? :mellow:
Depends on whether Magical Creatures work the same way as humans, but you're probably right, forget about the dead tissue part :p

But I still think that if a wizard hair was so powerful, every wand would have that as it's core since it's easy to get and would probably also take care of the affinity.
Maybe wizard hair just has weird properties, like every time you try to cast a spell, it ask you "what's in it for me?". :sisi:
 

pidl

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Dunstan said:
pidl said:
Dunstan said:
pidl said:
Dunstan said:
Just about anything magical can be used as a wand core.

I wonder how basilisk fang would work.... Or hell if you want something with real power how about "wizard hair"? :rofl:
Don't think 'wizard hair' would be all that powerful since it probably falls in the category of wand cores which got replaced by Ollivander's method. Don't see why there would be any power at all in the hair of a wizard since hair is considered dead tissue.
:hmm: <_< Should I go through the tubule of replacing all "wizard" with "Unicorn" and/or "thestral" and/or "veela", or do you see the problem with what you said? :mellow:
Depends on whether Magical Creatures work the same way as humans, but you're probably right, forget about the dead tissue part :p

But I still think that if a wizard hair was so powerful, every wand would have that as it's core since it's easy to get and would probably also take care of the affinity.
Maybe wizard hair just has weird properties, like every time you try to cast a spell, it ask you "what's in it for me?". :sisi:
A washing with some nice shampoo and if you really perform well, a hair colouring :p
 

Rahhel

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pidl said:
Dunstan said:
pidl said:
Dunstan said:
pidl said:
Dunstan said:
Just about anything magical can be used as a wand core.

I wonder how basilisk fang would work.... Or hell if you want something with real power how about "wizard hair"? :rofl:
Don't think 'wizard hair' would be all that powerful since it probably falls in the category of wand cores which got replaced by Ollivander's method. Don't see why there would be any power at all in the hair of a wizard since hair is considered dead tissue.
:hmm: <_< Should I go through the tubule of replacing all "wizard" with "Unicorn" and/or "thestral" and/or "veela", or do you see the problem with what you said? :mellow:
Depends on whether Magical Creatures work the same way as humans, but you're probably right, forget about the dead tissue part :p

But I still think that if a wizard hair was so powerful, every wand would have that as it's core since it's easy to get and would probably also take care of the affinity.
Maybe wizard hair just has weird properties, like every time you try to cast a spell, it ask you "what's in it for me?". :sisi:
A washing with some nice shampoo and if you really perform well, a hair colouring :p
I think if you use wizard's hair the wand would ask you silly things like that annoying paper clib from Micorsoft Works.

"It looks like you are attempting to curse someone. May I suggest the Avada Kedavra or Fuck You?"
 

Lord Raine

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Darkfiretiger said:
Well there was the issue with Neville using his father's wand and possibly something about Ron using a second hand wand but that could have just been an age thing. I suspect like many lore issues the whole wand choosing a wizard thing is just something that sounded good that Rowling abandoned as soon as it became inconvenient to her plot ideas.
What the fuck are you even saying? Lore issues? What lore issues?

The wand chooses the wizard. If you use another wizard's wand, you'll never get as good results as when you use your own. This has been true since the beginning. All that got added in later was that a wand can change it's mind about who owns it under certain circumstances.

What the fuck does that contradict? How is that an issue? Are you doing anything besides pulling "problems" completely out of your ass, and then blaming it on Rowling? Are you really that dumb, that you just invent problems where there aren't any and then blame it on somebody else? How many sentences can I possibly string together that end with a question mark?
 

pidl

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Lord Raine said:
Darkfiretiger said:
Well there was the issue with Neville using his father's wand and possibly something about Ron using a second hand wand but that could have just been an age thing. I suspect like many lore issues the whole wand choosing a wizard thing is just something that sounded good that Rowling abandoned as soon as it became inconvenient to her plot ideas.
What the fuck are you even saying? Lore issues? What lore issues?

The wand chooses the wizard. If you use another wizard's wand, you'll never get as good results as when you use your own. This has been true since the beginning. All that got added in later was that a wand can change it's mind about who owns it under certain circumstances.

What the fuck does that contradict? How is that an issue? Are you doing anything besides pulling "problems" completely out of your ass, and then blaming it on Rowling? Are you really that dumb, that you just invent problems where there aren't any and then blame it on somebody else? How many sentences can I possibly string together that end with a question mark?
Apparently five. :p
 
pidl said:
Dunstan said:
Just about anything magical can be used as a wand core.

I wonder how basilisk fang would work.... Or hell if you want something with real power how about "wizard hair"? :rofl:
Don't think 'wizard hair' would be all that powerful since it probably falls in the category of wand cores which got replaced by Ollivander's method. Don't see why there would be any power at all in the hair of a wizard since hair is considered dead tissue.
There are a number of fics (but no canon references, unless you want to count the veela hair in Fleur's wand) that use wizard or witch hair (or blood) to create an emergency wand. Most writers who use this bit of fanon have the sense to make it a weak wand, if it works at all.
 
Seems we're throwing a lot up at this forum wall tonight and seeing what sticks. Anyway, was flipping through the Goblet of Fire and found this: part of one of Voldemort's long monologues after he'd been resurrected, while he was waiting for his Death Eaters to show up.

ôAnd then I ask myself, but how could they have believed I
would not rise again? They, who knew the steps I took, long ago, to
guard myself against mortal death? They, who had seen proofs of
the immensity of my power in the times when I was mightier than
any wizard living?"
That middle sentence there is the thing that got me; it almost sounds like he's saying that he had informed a good handful of his Death Eaters about his Horcruxes way back when. If he had, though, then the whole gaffe with the diary shouldn't have happened...or perhaps he only told his followers back when they were the Knights of Whateverthefuck, 50 years back? Before Lucius' time? I dunno. Thoughts?
 

pidl

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Perhaps he only told them that he had undertaken steps, not what those steps were? To prevent any of his followers of doing the same, or doing what Regulus did.
 

Dunstan

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pidl said:
Perhaps he only told them that he had undertaken steps, not what those steps were? To prevent any of his followers of doing the same, or doing what Regulus did.
ôAnd then I ask myself, but how could they have believed I
would not rise again? They, who knew the steps I took, long ago, to
guard myself against mortal death?
They, who had seen proofs of
the immensity of my power in the times when I was mightier than
any wizard living?"
:sweat:
 

pidl

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Dunstan said:
pidl said:
Perhaps he only told them that he had undertaken steps, not what those steps were? To prevent any of his followers of doing the same, or doing what Regulus did.
ôAnd then I ask myself, but how could they have believed I
would not rise again? They, who knew the steps I took, long ago, to
guard myself against mortal death?
They, who had seen proofs of
the immensity of my power in the times when I was mightier than
any wizard living?"
:sweat:
Oops, read that as 'knew of the steps I took' :headbanger:
 

jaredstar

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Heres something that has been bothering me for a while. What was the point of Molly being in the Order from what i could see the other members were either members of the ministry (Author, Shack and Tonks for example) Had connections to various groups (Hagrid and Remus) or had connections to the darker side of life (Fletcher And Snape)
 

MTing

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Maybe because it would be hard for you to be in a secret society without your Husband or Wife knowing about it. Gone for all hours of the day? Have to apparate in the middle of the night? Becoming more cautious and vigilant?

But most importantly, it was because you believed in the Order, in what you were fighting for.
 

jaredstar

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MTing said:
Maybe because it would be hard for you to be in a secret society without your Husband or Wife knowing about it. Gone for all hours of the day? Have to apparate in the middle of the night? Becoming more cautious and vigilant?

But most importantly, it was because you believed in the Order, in what you were fighting for.
yeahhhh no, I am not referring to to her knowing about the order (since even the kids know about the order)

I am referring to the fact that she is a member but brings absolutely nothing to the table.

At best she is a glorified baby sitter
 
Like, 3/4 of the Order bring nothing to the table or are borderline useless, so Molly being a glorified babysitter isn't much to complain about.

Hell, Voldemort had effectively won even while holding the Idiot Ball.
 

Lord Raine

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jaredstar said:
MTing said:
Maybe because it would be hard for you to be in a secret society without your Husband or Wife knowing about it. Gone for all hours of the day? Have to apparate in the middle of the night? Becoming more cautious and vigilant?

But most importantly, it was because you believed in the Order, in what you were fighting for.
yeahhhh no
If you won't accept the explanation, stop asking the question.
 

Chuckg

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In addition to that, consider that even just as a 'glorified baby sitter', she was Harry Potter's 'babysitter' -- Dumbledore needs her in the loop simply because keeping Harry safe is one of the Order's top priorities.
 

jaredstar

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Lord Raine said:
jaredstar said:
MTing said:
Maybe because it would be hard for you to be in a secret society without your Husband or Wife knowing about it. Gone for all hours of the day? Have to apparate in the middle of the night? Becoming more cautious and vigilant?

But most importantly, it was because you believed in the Order, in what you were fighting for.
yeahhhh no
If you won't accept the explanation, stop asking the question.
that might be the case if the answer had been to the question asked

Now Lord of Bones and or Chuckg's answers were what i was looking for.

I got the impression that MTing had the impression that i was talking about Molly's even knowing about the order
 

Lord Raine

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The Order was also a spy network. It makes sense to have people you would not expect to be a spy in it. No one would expect Molly, and probably Author, of being spies.

So naturally, they make great ones.
 

Pirazy

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Yeah, who would expect the Weasley blood traitors of working for Dumbledore's side?

;)
 

seitora

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Pirazy said:
Yeah, who would expect the Weasley blood traitors of working for Dumbledore's side?

;)
Which would make it interesting if the douche Weasley (Percy) was working for Dumbles and a couple of the nice Weasleys pretending to work for Dumbledore but really working for Voldemort.

Without, y'know, descending into Weasley bashing like so many fics do.
 

Dunstan

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seitora said:
Pirazy said:
Yeah, who would expect the Weasley blood traitors of working for Dumbledore's side?

;)
Which would make it interesting if the douche Weasley (Percy) was working for Dumbles and a couple of the nice Weasleys pretending to work for Dumbledore but really working for Voldemort.

Without, y'know, descending into Weasley bashing like so many fics do.
:mellow: Yeah... "I'm just saying that their evil, murderess, Deatheaters, but I'm certainly not bashing them.... Honest. :sisi: " :sweat2: :rolleyes: :crazy:
 
Lord Raine said:
The Order was also a spy network. It makes sense to have people you would not expect to be a spy in it. No one would expect Molly, and probably Author, of being spies.

So naturally, they make great ones.
Wasn't the Order around the first time Riddle popped his head up? I always thought that Arthur and Molly were members back then. From what I can remember didn't her twin brothers get killed the first time around? That said we really have no idea what Molly brings to the table. She could have been a rather fearsome witch in her younger years that just decided to be a mother. Does it really ever state how strong or knowledgeable she was in canon?

That said never underestimate the importance of good, warm food during a war.
 
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