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Silvio Berlusconi is the man who is singlehandedly making Italy a Third World country by basically pissing off everyone that matters with his idiocy, up to and including making crude jokes about how Obama is a 'very attractive tanned young man' (saying Obama wasn't amused is an understatement, but he's too polite to tell Berlusconi to go fuck himself), starting to talk in his cellphone in the middle of a meeting with the representatives of world powers (and completely embarrassing Angela Merkel, who was the host and had personally invited him, with his blatant rudeness), having illicit relationships with a minor (never mind that he was also married at the time) and making ad-hoc laws designed to shut down any trials he's involved in, most of them for corruption and illegal money movements, without regard to the fact that said laws can also be used by much worse criminals to get out of jail...
Yeah, Berlusconi isn't someone any of you want as Prime Minister. He may not be gratuitiously murderous, but his idiocy is just as devastating for Italy as any tyrant's purges.
Yeah, Berlusconi isn't someone any of you want as Prime Minister. He may not be gratuitiously murderous, but his idiocy is just as devastating for Italy as any tyrant's purges.
Really? Because personally, I like the fact that Hawk has clearly explained the problem, but you haven't paid any attention to it and smugly made your own wild guesses. I think that says enough.
You should read more, and project less. Though I admit that is an incredibly middling standard. I might be expecting too much.
You should read more, and project less. Though I admit that is an incredibly middling standard. I might be expecting too much.
If that were even somewhat true, you would not have posted. All the insults in the world don't change that, but if you'd like to believe otherwise, go right ahead. You've certainly never had so much as a single conversation with me, so you can't pretend to know what you're talking about. Feining apathy? Summarizing people without bothering to even talk to them? And people call me arrogant.
Reading comprehension, Raine. Work on it. I admitted that I have been doing my fair share of bullshit and was surprised that neither of us were banned the moment Hawk glanced at me and you tearing each other up all over the place - I guess Hawk is in a merciful mood and/or decided it's not time yet to ban TFF's version of the Three Stooges.
That said, if I WAS banned, I'd expect a couple other people who pulled as much if not more bullshit as I did to also get the hammer. And you just happen to be one of them.
That said, if I WAS banned, I'd expect a couple other people who pulled as much if not more bullshit as I did to also get the hammer. And you just happen to be one of them.
I find your lack of geniality disturbing. Can't we dislike one another without there being any personal animosity? And yes, before you cry hypocrisy, I've been guilty of being unreasonable and hateful in the past. It was wrong of me and I admit it. I apologize for all of the names I've called you and for not handling my problems with you in a mature and rational manner.
Yeah, I don't like you for things you've done in the past and things that you still do to this day. But I've been trying to make an effort (and not succeeding, apparently) to be reasonable and not rabid when it comes to my dislike of you.
All I'm saying is, is it really so hard to not come down on people like a ton of bricks with name calling and overbearing condescension when you're in a debate with them? I just want to be able to disagree with you, and other people who emulate you, without flying into a rage because you completely disregard my opinion and label it stupid just because it doesn't coincide with your opinion.
As long as we're being honest here, you're mainly the reason why I've stopped posting on TFF aside from a few fic posts. The way that you post and treat people who disagree with you makes me angry. You might point out that there are other sections to post in and I could very easily enjoy TFF without ever stepping foot in the Naruto section. That's true. It's also true that Naruto is one of my main sources of enjoyment these days. I shouldn't have to be wary or steel myself to post in a discussion thread because I'm sure that you'd jump on it or be derogatory.
All I'm asking for is a little respect when I and others post. It takes too much effort to hate you and I'm tired of being a 'Raine hater'. I just want to be a TTFer.
Yeah, I don't like you for things you've done in the past and things that you still do to this day. But I've been trying to make an effort (and not succeeding, apparently) to be reasonable and not rabid when it comes to my dislike of you.
All I'm saying is, is it really so hard to not come down on people like a ton of bricks with name calling and overbearing condescension when you're in a debate with them? I just want to be able to disagree with you, and other people who emulate you, without flying into a rage because you completely disregard my opinion and label it stupid just because it doesn't coincide with your opinion.
As long as we're being honest here, you're mainly the reason why I've stopped posting on TFF aside from a few fic posts. The way that you post and treat people who disagree with you makes me angry. You might point out that there are other sections to post in and I could very easily enjoy TFF without ever stepping foot in the Naruto section. That's true. It's also true that Naruto is one of my main sources of enjoyment these days. I shouldn't have to be wary or steel myself to post in a discussion thread because I'm sure that you'd jump on it or be derogatory.
All I'm asking for is a little respect when I and others post. It takes too much effort to hate you and I'm tired of being a 'Raine hater'. I just want to be a TTFer.
Thanks, Trev.
I feel kind of bad for not remembering when you and I have traded words. I'll apologize to you as well if anything I said was out of line and an ad hominem attack. It's kind of silly to admit, but it took me a long time to grow up and to learn to not take the internet so serious.
I'd like to think that TFF will mature eventually. It just takes time, is all. I think that TFF could be an even better place than it already is if people would just learn that it is indeed possible to disagree and dislike someone in a debate, but still be courteous and respectful.
GH: I doubt a pitchfork would harm you. Maybe a tank would do sufficient damage to take you out. =p
I feel kind of bad for not remembering when you and I have traded words. I'll apologize to you as well if anything I said was out of line and an ad hominem attack. It's kind of silly to admit, but it took me a long time to grow up and to learn to not take the internet so serious.
I'd like to think that TFF will mature eventually. It just takes time, is all. I think that TFF could be an even better place than it already is if people would just learn that it is indeed possible to disagree and dislike someone in a debate, but still be courteous and respectful.
GH: I doubt a pitchfork would harm you. Maybe a tank would do sufficient damage to take you out. =p
More importantly, seeing how 99% of TFF is male, don't comments like 'blow me' kind of... suggest someone is insecure about their sexuality? Just for that reason, it might be best to not make them. I mean, there's a pictures topic here on TFF... anyone who is about to make a 'blow me' comment should stop, open it, take a GOOD look at the police-worthy mugshots inside and ask himself 'Do I really want to invite THESE guys to get anywhere near my most precious treasure?'.
Guaranteed to 100% kill the temptation to make such a comment. :snigger:
Guaranteed to 100% kill the temptation to make such a comment. :snigger:
Every time we've ever talked, you're the one who brings the personal animosity to the table. Every. Single. Time. I actually forget who you are between those periods, because you never do anything ever. But then you show up randomly and take cheap shots at me with personal insults, and I'm all "oh yeah, right. THAT asshole. Now I remember."
I don't know. Can we? That's a very good question. I leave the answer up to you.
And just for the record? Yes, I can sauce it. No, you always do it. Yes, it actually does work if you try being polite to me, which you would know if you paid attention. It's not a coincidence that some of my best friends on TFF used to be people I argued with all the time. Vex is an excellent example, as is Chuckg. It's people like you, who can't help but put in that little extra personal "fuck you" when there is none necessary, that cause the problems. Chuckg? He was angry and didn't like me, but he respected me. There were unspoken, mutually agreed lines that we didn't cross when we fought. Vex? Arguably even angrier. But still essencially the same story. He respected me, and I respected him, and eventually, our disagreements stopped mattering.
Then you have the gall to ask what the difference is between you and them. Do I need to cite the trolling you tried to pull for literally no other reason than pure spite on DLP? Do I have to go back and bring up Genocide's whole I WISH YOU HAD BEEN DROWNED AS AN INFANT AND SHOVED IN A BLENDER rant?
That's the difference. It's not me. It's you. I know that's hard for you to believe, but there it is. And I've got the sauce to prove it. The people who continue to have problems with me? They're the ones who go the extra mile to spite me, whether they're willing to admit it or not. The people I end up becoming friends with, or at least neutral acquaintances? They don't.
Are you really demanding that I start respecting you, when you can't even be somewhat bothered to show the same courtesy?
Maybe if you tried to take the first step, something would happen. Or maybe you won't see what I'm saying, and just see that I'm disagreeing with you on something and used the words 'fuck' and 'asshole' while doing it. It's really up to you.
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Also, I've got my IP address if you're willing to check it against whatever list you have, Hawk. Also, I am trying to cut down on the profanity. I'm working on it.
I don't know. Can we? That's a very good question. I leave the answer up to you.
And just for the record? Yes, I can sauce it. No, you always do it. Yes, it actually does work if you try being polite to me, which you would know if you paid attention. It's not a coincidence that some of my best friends on TFF used to be people I argued with all the time. Vex is an excellent example, as is Chuckg. It's people like you, who can't help but put in that little extra personal "fuck you" when there is none necessary, that cause the problems. Chuckg? He was angry and didn't like me, but he respected me. There were unspoken, mutually agreed lines that we didn't cross when we fought. Vex? Arguably even angrier. But still essencially the same story. He respected me, and I respected him, and eventually, our disagreements stopped mattering.
Then you have the gall to ask what the difference is between you and them. Do I need to cite the trolling you tried to pull for literally no other reason than pure spite on DLP? Do I have to go back and bring up Genocide's whole I WISH YOU HAD BEEN DROWNED AS AN INFANT AND SHOVED IN A BLENDER rant?
That's the difference. It's not me. It's you. I know that's hard for you to believe, but there it is. And I've got the sauce to prove it. The people who continue to have problems with me? They're the ones who go the extra mile to spite me, whether they're willing to admit it or not. The people I end up becoming friends with, or at least neutral acquaintances? They don't.
Are you really demanding that I start respecting you, when you can't even be somewhat bothered to show the same courtesy?
Maybe if you tried to take the first step, something would happen. Or maybe you won't see what I'm saying, and just see that I'm disagreeing with you on something and used the words 'fuck' and 'asshole' while doing it. It's really up to you.
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Also, I've got my IP address if you're willing to check it against whatever list you have, Hawk. Also, I am trying to cut down on the profanity. I'm working on it.
Oh!
I just remembered who Zephyrus is!
You were around back when Xero's FF.Net Discussion Board was still in existence. Man I completely forgot about that. Man that place was a blasty-blast while it lasted, too bad it stopped being a thing.
And you are not a very memorable person. Has anyone ever told you that before?
Seriously there have been ghosts that have left deeper impressions.
I just remembered who Zephyrus is!
You were around back when Xero's FF.Net Discussion Board was still in existence. Man I completely forgot about that. Man that place was a blasty-blast while it lasted, too bad it stopped being a thing.
And you are not a very memorable person. Has anyone ever told you that before?
Seriously there have been ghosts that have left deeper impressions.