Ranma ½ Ranma canon questions

I had the feeling it was out of the blue. Thanks.
 

Dumbledork

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A lot of fics claim that Soun hasn't trained Akane in years and that she was mostly self taught? Are there any indications of that in the manga or anime?

I know that we never see Soun train Akane, but that doesn't mean he doesn't. Any physical evidence of that?
 

Altered Nova

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There's no evidence that he never trained her that I can recall, although he probably doesn't currently train her anymore or the manga probably would have shown it at some point considering she is a main character and the protagonist lives in her house. And also she was super happy about having someone to spar with when Ranma first showed up.

My headcanon is that Soun trained all of his daughters until their mother died, after which he stopped partially due to depression and partially due to not having as much free since he now had to pay for her funeral and raise all three of his daughters and keep the dojo afloat by himself. (Pretty sure Soun was implied to have some kind of office job in one of Hinako's arcs.) And by the time he recovered emotionally and financially he had grown lazy and out of shape. Akane was the most talented of his daughters and the only one to continue training on her own initiative.
 
I mostly agree with the first paragraph of that but not the second; I think Akane was the only one of the girls who was ever interested in being a martial artist. Nabiki frankly seems more contemptuous of martial arts skills than anything else and Kasumi doesn't seem to have any interest either.

But that's really just my impression of a back-story that is deliberately left ambiguous; the past is not important in the series for the most part, and that holds true for the Tendou family as much as anyone else. Hell, even the present is very ambiguous because the series has no definitive progression of time; it's a collection of stories, not a single one.

$0.02.
 

da_fox2279

California Crackpot
nuclear death frog said:
I mostly agree with the first paragraph of that but not the second; I think Akane was the only one of the girls who was ever interested in being a martial artist. Nabiki frankly seems more contemptuous of martial arts skills than anything else and Kasumi doesn't seem to have any interest either.
This. I was under the impression that Nabiki only practiced enough to stay in shape, and to be able to protect herself should one of her shady deals (not that there were many really 'shady' deals in canon; I'm thinking the ecchi photos were the limit) go bad.

Kasumi was probably the same; she did seem to be in fairly good shape.

Just my opinion.
 

Dumbledork

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Soun trained all three daughters? I don't really see it, or at least there's no indication at all in the manga or anime.

As for Nabiki, apart from some aerobic I've never seen her train.
 

Altered Nova

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Well that's why I theorized that Nabiki and Kasumi gave up martial arts when Soun wasn't in any condition to teach them anymore, and Akane was the only daughter to keep training on her own.

I know there's no real evidence for it, it just seems logical to me that an elite martial artist who opened his own dojo would at least try to pass on his art to his own children.
 

seitora

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How good was Mousse's Japanese? Seemed to me to be on pat with Cologne, but at least we'll above Shampoo.
 
I believe it's standard Tokyo dialect, with typically male speech patterns, without any of the mistakes Shampoo made.
 
So reading some of this thread it seems that it's established that Genma and Soun should have jobs, so what do you think they are?
 

Dumbledork

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Genma used to work for Doctor Tofu for a while. No idea how long that lasted or if he still does since Tofu disappeeared later on.
Soun occasionally works as a demon hunter.
 

Dumbledork

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I've just read the latest chapter of the Neptunia crossover and the author portrays Ranma as someone who doesn't nkow what a videogame is. However, if I remember correctly there's a scene in the manga or the anime where he plays on the Famicom or the Super Famicom.

Am I correct?
 

Ezit Meti

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Yup. That definitely happens, during that one with the kid that tries to keep Genma in panda form as a pet, which was in both the anime and the manga.

I don't get where the idea that Ranma is only interested in martial arts comes from. I mean, we see him do other things all the time. Like the other characters, it feels like there's a really flat understanding of what he's like that really inhibits anyone trying to write him.
 
He definitely plays video games at various points; I think there was a scene with Hinako where he played some game or other. He is also seen reading manga at times, so the idea that he has limited or no personal interests outside martial arts is just wrong completely.
 

seitora

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Ranma doesn't even need a turbo controller for all those bullshit press the button really quick sequences either :p
 

The Ero-Sennin

The Eyes of Heaven
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Ezit Meti said:
Yup. That definitely happens, during that one with the kid that tries to keep Genma in panda form as a pet, which was in both the anime and the manga.

I don't get where the idea that Ranma is only interested in martial arts comes from. I mean, we see him do other things all the time. Like the other characters, it feels like there's a really flat understanding of what he's like that really inhibits anyone trying to write him.
The flat understanding comes from people writing Ranma from fanon and like... the first volume of the manga.
 
I always liked Loki Nishizaki's take on it in Artist:
Her disbelief crept into her tone and infected it like influenza, launching itself alongside her voice as she said, "That's it? So you just lift weights all day?"

"There's more to training than just lifting weights." He didn't seem at all offended, even if she hadn't taken any particular care in wording her question. His answer bore no undercurrent of frustration or disdain. "I mean, yeah, I work out in the morning, but that doesn't take more than an hour or two and I only do it if I need to. I spend some time practicing my technique, working on my form and meditating. I read some fiction every once in a while and the old man usually sends me out to see some movies whenever we can afford it."

She raised an eyebrow. "And what does that have to do with martial arts?"

"Helps with creativity," he said. "No matter how strong your body is, a dull mind will tear it down faster than any strike."
 
The Ero-Sennin said:
Ezit Meti said:
Yup. That definitely happens, during that one with the kid that tries to keep Genma in panda form as a pet, which was in both the anime and the manga.

I don't get where the idea that Ranma is only interested in martial arts comes from. I mean, we see him do other things all the time. Like the other characters, it feels like there's a really flat understanding of what he's like that really inhibits anyone trying to write him.
The flat understanding comes from people writing Ranma from fanon and like... the first volume of the manga.
It's interesting then how everyone use the later volumes for Akane
 

Anonguy

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Eh, most of the Akanes running around are either angry troll fire breathing anger machine or some weird Deredere thing that is even farther from canon than even the crazy troll.

It's hilarious that most of the people who whinge about Nabiki's characterization generally have little to no clue how to write Ranma or Akane anywhere resembling Takahashi's originals.

As far as Ranma is concerned, the more aggressively clueless he is, the more people think he's relatable/understandable. This generally because they didn't actually bother watching the series at all and basically started off old fanfic (Rich Lawson or Bader).
 

The Ero-Sennin

The Eyes of Heaven
Staff member
Anonguy said:
Eh, most of the Akanes running around are either angry troll fire breathing anger machine or some weird Deredere thing that is even farther from canon than even the crazy troll.

It's hilarious that most of the people who whinge about Nabiki's characterization generally have little to no clue how to write Ranma or Akane anywhere resembling Takahashi's originals.

As far as Ranma is concerned, the more aggressively clueless he is, the more people think he's relatable/understandable. This generally because they didn't actually bother watching the series at all and basically started off old fanfic (Rich Lawson or Bader).
*Shakes fist to the heavens*

DAMN YOU JIM BADER!!!1
 

Anonguy

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Bader's influence is owed more to an insular, incestuous online group that thinks itself bet-

*looks at TFF.*

Oh.
 
Anonguy said:
Takahashi's originals.

didn't actually bother watching the series
Watching? I think you might have meant another word. Unless ...
 
nuclear death frog said:
Anonguy said:
Takahashi's originals.

didn't actually bother watching the series
Watching? I think you might have meant another word. Unless ...
She's actually pretty involved with all the shows based off her manga, particularly when it comes to writing as I understand it. I think she's at least acted in the role of a producer or consultant in pretty much everything related to her work, even though she might not get a credit for it in the show. It's legit to say it's hers.
 
I'm not intrigued by that viewpoint. To me, the original has always been and will always be the manga. I've not read every single chapter, but that still holds. You're free to think of them as equal or whatever; I just don't agree.
 

Lawra

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Contrabardus said:
nuclear death frog said:
Anonguy said:
Takahashi's originals.

didn't actually bother watching the series
Watching? I think you might have meant another word. Unless ...
She's actually pretty involved with all the shows based off her manga, particularly when it comes to writing as I understand it. I think she's at least acted in the role of a producer or consultant in pretty much everything related to her work, even though she might not get a credit for it in the show. It's legit to say it's hers.
If she had had any significant influence on the Ranma 1/2 anime past the first few episodes, it certainly doesn't show unless her intent was to make it worse and to heavily diverge even the simplest of scenes.
 
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