Recommended BtVS fics

Darksnider05

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lokinishizaki said:
Darksnider05 said:
I enjoyed it don't give a fuck about the quality. I came I enjoyed don't give a fuck about these post because I enjoyed.

Thanks for the rec.
Such eloquence.

Now, I haven't read the fic in question but I've got to say, as a amateur writer, hearing something like "I don't give a fuck about the quality" is just disheartening. It reminds of all those legions of fics that are terrible in all aspects but get a lot of positive reviews because they feature a popular pairing or something.

I'm not saying that you aren't entitled to your opinion. I just wish that more people would appreciate what I appreciate. Evocative prose, imaginative plot, compelling characters, etc. But maybe that's too much to ask for. Hm... I think I'll go reread something by Erico.
Quality in this case is lack of polish like lacking world building to the extreme a high quality fic requires when your reading a crossover.

I'm reading fucking fanfiction people who don't enjoy it for what it is need to get real fast.
 
Darksnider05 said:
Quality in this case is lack of polish like lacking world building to the extreme a high quality fic requires when your reading a crossover.?

I'm reading fucking fanfiction people who don't enjoy it for what it is need to get real fast.
And what is it? The only difference between fiction and fanfiction is that the latter borrows concepts that already exist. The composition and structure are identical and as such, they can both be judged using the same criteria.

The real difference is that one is generally crafted by professionals and the other is cobbled together by amateurs. Then, the question becomes: Should all amateurs aspire to become professionals? Or rather, should all the unskilled aspire to be skilled?

I think so. I feel that people should always try to improve upon themselves, and to achieve that, criticism is necessary. If some authors feel content to wallow in mediocrity then that's their choice but if an author writes something simply to reinforce his ego, then chances are that his writing isn't worth reading anyway. Personally, I've always felt that a constructive review, even if negative, was more useful than a review that said 'update nao' or 'I liked it'.

Basically, just because you like something doesn't mean that it isn't okay to criticize it. In fact, the fact that this fic got such criticism is a good thing, because it shows that the idea has potential and that it isn't just shit on a stick. It just needs work.

You say 'It's fine the way it is', 'You shouldn't expect too much'.

I say that The Fanfiction Forum was built for the creation and critique of fanfiction works. If you object to the criticism of those fics you like, simply because you like them, then I can't help but feel that you're missing the point.
 

Prince Charon

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crazyfoxdemon said:
zeebee1 said:
Why did you post the short version?
He may not know about the longer version?
If the longer version is where I think it is, you have to be a member to read it.
 

biigoh

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<a href='http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1376496/1/The_Wind_Beyond_the_Walls_of_the_Mind' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>The Wind Beyond the Walls of the Mind</a> by <a href='http://www.fanfiction.net/u/224049/Petronius' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Petronius</a>
An epic BtVS, Angel, Lovecraft crossover. Buffy and Faith battle Nyarlethotep, The Haunter of the Dark, in a Cthulhu mythos novel that brings the entire Scooby Gang to the edge of the end of the world!
Buffy: The Vampire Slayer - Rated: T - English - Horror/Drama - Chapters: 28 - Words: 100,989 - Reviews: 21 - Updated: 10-27-03 - Published: 6-7-03 - Buffy S. & Faith L. - Complete

:p
 

crazyfoxdemon

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<a href='http://www.echonyc.com/~stax/Buffy/nwhepcat/lilac1.html' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Lilic City</a>
After the fall of Sunnydale, Xander resigned as the heart of the Scoobies, creating a solitary life away from the supernatural wars. He manages a supermarket in Spokane, stays sober, keeps to himself. But now, five years later, his quiet life is about to change forever, in ways he can't possibly imagine.
This story is pretty interesting and a good read.

<a href='http://parrot.moments-lost.org/earchive/viewstory.php?sid=1421&textsize=0&chapter=18' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>False Smile</a>
What if Faith got pregnant from that night with Xander
Its alright, not great.. But Its decent F/X

<a href='http://www.bellatemple.com/fanon.html' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>FanNon Fodder</a>
Xander's been entered into the Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny. or something like that.
Its meh... at best.. but it's worth a couple of laughs..
 

Seed00

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FanNon Fodder
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Xander's been entered into the Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny. or something like that.

Its meh... at best.. but it's worth a couple of laughs..
This is like Xander reading about fiction Tenhawk wrote about.

Season 4 shafted Xander. Hard.
 

Tsuki_CB

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The Wind Beyond the Walls of the Mind by Petronius
An epic BtVS, Angel, Lovecraft crossover. Buffy and Faith battle Nyarlethotep, The Haunter of the Dark, in a Cthulhu mythos novel that brings the entire Scooby Gang to the edge of the end of the world!
Buffy: The Vampire Slayer - Rated: T - English - Horror/Drama - Chapters: 28 - Words: 100,989 - Reviews: 21 - Updated: 10-27-03 - Published: 6-7-03 - Buffy S. & Faith L. - Complete
Rocks fall everybody dies, except Nyarlethotep who laughs his is ass off.
 

semil

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<a href='http://www.tthfanfic.org/Story-22233-4/DireSquirrel+Yub+Yub+Commander.htm' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Yub Yub Commander</a>

Weird. Very, very weird. But also fun to read. And good. I can honestly say I've never seen anything like this.

<a href='http://www.tthfanfic.org/Story-22035-17/joshlamont+Fear+Us+We+Are-.htm' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Fear Us, We Are...</a> updated.

<a href='http://www.tthfanfic.org/Story-23251/BarefootXO+Time+and+Again.htm' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Time and Again</a>

There have to be a million fics with a title like this. Character goes back in time, things change. Nice to read. Not blowing me away with awesomeness, but no real faults either.
 

Prince Charon

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semil said:
<a href='http://www.tthfanfic.org/Story-23251/BarefootXO+Time+and+Again.htm' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Time and Again</a>

There have to be a million fics with a title like this. Character goes back in time, things change. Nice to read. Not blowing me away with awesomeness, but no real faults either.
Up to chapter 6. Its quite good.
 

semil

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Prince Charon said:
semil said:
<a href='http://www.tthfanfic.org/Story-23251/BarefootXO+Time+and+Again.htm' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Time and Again</a>

There have to be a million fics with a title like this.? Character goes back in time, things change.? Nice to read.? Not blowing me away with awesomeness, but no real faults either.
Up to chapter 6. Its quite good.
I think the author is overdramatizing the interaction between Xander and Dumbledore, and to a certain degree it seems like his presence has or will fix everything. Those are "not good", but don't make the story "bad".
 

crazyfoxdemon

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semil said:
<a href='http://www.tthfanfic.org/Story-22233-4/DireSquirrel+Yub+Yub+Commander.htm' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Yub Yub Commander</a>

Weird. Very, very weird. But also fun to read. And good. I can honestly say I've never seen anything like this.
I honestly thought that this was some DAMN good crack....
 

Prince Charon

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semil said:
Prince Charon said:
semil said:
<a href='http://www.tthfanfic.org/Story-23251/BarefootXO+Time+and+Again.htm' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Time and Again</a>

There have to be a million fics with a title like this.?á Character goes back in time, things change.?á Nice to read.?á Not blowing me away with awesomeness, but no real faults either.
Up to chapter 6. Its quite good.
I think the author is overdramatizing the interaction between Xander and Dumbledore, and to a certain degree it seems like his presence has or will fix everything. Those are "not good", but don't make the story "bad".
Eh, its a matter of opinion, a matter of personal taste. After getting to chapter eleven, I'd say it has some problems, but nothing to keep me from wanting more.
 

semil

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It almost certainly sucks, but I haven't read it to make sure. There's a story where Xander goes to live with his father...a crossover with Airwolf....<a href='http://www.tthfanfic.org/Story-22927/Sirius+Wolfpup.htm' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Wolfpup</a> just in case anyone is a masochist.
 

Liam-don

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crazyfoxdemon said:
<a href='http://www.bellatemple.com/fanon.html' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>FanNon Fodder</a>
Xander's been entered into the Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny. or something like that.
Its meh... at best.. but it's worth a couple of laughs..
Terrible. BatKeaton somehow managed to defeat all the comics and cartoon incarnation.
 

CatOnFire

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I like Xander stories but I can't stand anything written by <a href='http://www.tthfanfic.org/Author-15773/JCHatten.htm' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>JCHatten</a>. JCHatten is to Xander-centered fanfiction as <a href='http://www.fanfiction.net/u/41527/dswynne' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>dswynne</a> is to Ranma-centered fanfiction, they keep writing a constant stream terrible shit.

Edit: Oops I already wrote something like this 3 pages ago...
 

crazyfoxdemon

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<a href='http://www.tthfanfic.org/Story-19827/NotJana+Little+Brother.htm' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Little Brother</a>
Summary: After 'Chosen' the Scoobies made a point of contacting their families. Several months later it turns out that one relative ... must have slipped Xander's mind. So his friends give him a gentle push out the door - towards the one person that mattered.
Its a decent BtVS/NCIS crossover.. Basically Xander is Abby's half brother..

<a href='http://www.grandt.com/XanderZone/stories/read.php?story=LivingHistory.html' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Living History</a>
Summary: Some people have come a place far, far away and a time far, far ahead to ask for help on an urgent matter. The time? February 2008. The place? Moscow. The problem? They're in Cleveland, September 2003. And that's just the beginning of the troubleà
This is a pretty good story..
 

semil

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Tenhawk updated the AU to Shadow Counil, where Xander drops into DC verse.

Its somewhat like Shadow Council, if there was no suspense of how he got there and no particular plot going forward.
 

CatOnFire

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I don't know why but I really enjoy <a href='http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6382117/1/Claws_and_Fangs' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Claws and Fangs</a> a X-men/Inu-Yasha crossover. Xander meet up with X-23 in New York and through a convoluted series of decisions regains the body of one of his previous incarnations, Sesshomaru.
 

semil

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CatOnFire said:
I don't know why but I really enjoy <a href='http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6382117/1/Claws_and_Fangs' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Claws and Fangs</a> a X-men/Inu-Yasha crossover. Xander meet up with X-23 in New York and through a convoluted series of decisions regains the body of one of his previous incarnations, Sesshomaru.
One thing that upsets me about so many Xander fics that that authors make Xander awesome due to things that happen to him.

Its the same thing in this fic, the first few paragraphs are all about the stuff inside him reacting. Xander doesn't do anything, he's just a container for the important stuff. No mention of training for skills, how he got there, or really expending any effort. Just magic, then he's awesome.

Otherwise his inner white knight was going to start acting up
That isn't even a magical powerup, and its still referenced as something separate but inside him.

Xander is basically pschizophrenic with all the voices in his head. But he's awesome, so no worries.
 

jwang

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TOP 10 (Plus 1) SIGNS YOU'RE READING A FIC BY LIZBETH MARCS

10
Xander is in over his head. Again. And again. And again. And because he hates to be alone, he has a tendency to drag everyone else into trouble right along with him.

9
There's a problem or mystery, but it can't be solved using brute force. Brains and common sense have to be applied. Whenever that happens, see #10 for the result. If it requires a show of brains and common sense among multiple characters, the action turns into something that even the Keystone Cops would think was a bad idea.

9a
The best laid plans ... never work out.

8
Plots tend to be just a weeeee bit complicated. See #7 for the result.

7
Stories tend to celebrate birthdays measured as "1-year and X-number of months."

6
Xander's not the strongest, the bravest, or the smartest guy in the story, but he's probably the most clever guy in the room. Plus, he fights dirty.

5
Tempers have a tendency to flare, usually with very nasty results. Right after this happens, Xander stares in the mirror and berates himself for letting his "Inner Daddy Harris" loose on an unsuspecting population. Again.

4
Just enough of Xander's negative traits as a character is used in the story to make readers wonder if I secretly hate him and am trying to single-handedly revive the Xander-bashing genre to its previous height during Season 6.

3
Shipping? What shipping is this shipping thing of which you speak? When you saw that slash between the two letters in the heading, you weren't actually expecting me to write anything resembling a sex scene or romance, were you?

2
Xander is distressingly human. He will always be distressingly human. And if by some quirk of fate he picks up a little something extra due to external circumstances, it usually isn't much help and tends to be more of a hinderance. Oh, and Xander is usually not thrilled about it, either.

1
Maybe there's no happily ever after, but there's always a happier ever after. Usually.
The above is just a few of the reasons why I like Liz-marcs' Xanderfics. If I was looking for a general fic though, nwhepcat is my favorite by far. His/her character studies are very well done, and are excellent examples of how fiction doesn't need horrendous amounts of action/sex/violence. In fact, the parts where "violence are happening" in most of nwhepcat's works can be probably counted on one hand and remarkably short in comparison to the character interaction and self-examinations.

My favorite nwhepcat work? <a href='http://archive.shriftweb.org/archive/21/thislittle.html' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>This Little Light</a>, a fic that goes in depth into the "what-if" of the aftermath of S7-Chosen to those who are called. Word of warning: OCs for at least 80% of the fic.
 

Darksnider05

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semil said:
CatOnFire said:
I don't know why but I really enjoy <a href='http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6382117/1/Claws_and_Fangs' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>Claws and Fangs</a> a X-men/Inu-Yasha crossover. Xander meet up with X-23 in New York and through a convoluted series of decisions regains the body of one of his previous incarnations, Sesshomaru.
One thing that upsets me about so many Xander fics that that authors make Xander awesome due to things that happen to him.

Its the same thing in this fic, the first few paragraphs are all about the stuff inside him reacting. Xander doesn't do anything, he's just a container for the important stuff. No mention of training for skills, how he got there, or really expending any effort. Just magic, then he's awesome.

Otherwise his inner white knight was going to start acting up
That isn't even a magical powerup, and its still referenced as something separate but inside him.

Xander is basically pschizophrenic with all the voices in his head. But he's awesome, so no worries.
Eh most people have voices they hear in their head constantly if not frequently.
 

semil

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Xander actually hears the hyena spirit in his head. Not a thought, actual sound. He also has memories from a Green Beret but never told anyone because the author is lazy.

I don't think the story is bad either, but the author didn't want to work too much to make it actually good.
 
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