Naruto Rereading the Manga

Altered Nova

Well-Known Member
Wait, so Kakuzu and Hidan were handicapped in that fight? Huh...Kakuzu falling for Naruto's obvious feints is a lot more understandable if he was sleep-deprived.

They weren't really acting like they were sleep deprived or hungry though. I mean, why not take a nap and eat some food before heading out?

Maybe the Demonic statue sustains them during the technique. Madara did use the statue as life support and they are all kind of linked to it when extracting a tailed beast.
 
aren't soldier pills supposedly able to make a person fight for three days and nights straights?
The "normal" ones. Just imagine what S-rank monster would use.
 

Altered Nova

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I suppose that soldier pills could provide them with enough nutrients to last six days of inactivity. And judging by Gaara's continued survival and sanity, I guess ninja have already solved the issue of how to function without sleep. They must have needed one hell of a bathroom break after finishing sealing those bijuu though.
 
who said they didn't sleep- most likely the whole thing is chakra intensive for normal jonin, but those monster would literally do it in their sleep.
 

Knyght

The Collector
Uchiha


Wow. That genuinely sounds horrifying.

Necessary given that Sasuke's on what looks to be a self destructive quest and talks have failed but still.


Re-reading this fight, it's hilarious how One-Tailed Naruto keeps fucking with Sasuke.

"I'll dodge his attack!"

Fox Punch!

"I'll set him on fire!"

Fox Shield!

"I'll keep my distance!"

Fox Slap!

"I...maybe I can still dodge?"

Fox Pull!


Sad that the ninja Tsunade just says that she trusted implicitly has been going behind her back to the advisors. Not that it's wrong to keep the Hokage's advisors in the loop since that's what Tsunade should be doing in the first place, otherwise there's just no point in having them. I wonder who would have been on the mission if Shizune had kept her mouth shut though.


Except Kushina was never treated in that regard as far as we know as she became something of a famous ninja and appeared to have fought alongside Minato on multiple occasions. And jinchuuriki are usually meant to be weapons of war in the first place so wouldn't sending him out on missions be more effective than keeping him trapped in the village? The statement makes more sense if viewed specifically under the light of Akatsuki's quest to capture the Tailed Beasts but Tsunade does provide a good counterargument.


I forgot that the original plan was to simply capture and retrieve the spy. Because of the way things turned I think I just assumed  they planned to interrogate the spy and then go on to Orochimaru's hideout to retrieve Sasuke but they had never intended to come into contact with Orochimaru and Sasuke in the first place. And I like that they are explicitly intending to use this information for Orochimaru's assassination instead of leaving him to his own devices.

It could be an interesting divergence if Orochimaru and Kabuto hadn't planned to use this opportunity to kill Sasori and were going to continue the charade. Kabuto would have likely been by himself and surrounded by four ninja intended to capture him...though I'm not sure how Sai was going to fulfill his mission to kill Sasuke in that case. Perhaps it was meant to be more of a long-term mission where he'd participate in the assassination of Orochimaru as an opportunity to kill Sasuke as well.


Cool that Sasuke could do that without hand-seals to be honest but I never understood why it was named after the Chidori. I can understand the Chidori Senbon and Chidori Sharp Spear because he is literally creating the Chidori and then changing its shape to alter the way its attacked. But even though its described as emitting the Chidori from the entire body, it seems so divorced from its original form that it seems like a separate jutsu altogether than derivative. This version being called the Chidori Stream/Current makes sense but, again, it seems a lot different from the full body version.

It doesn't help that Sasuke's naming style annoys me in general what with him naming two random swords after the Kusanagi and the needlessly confusing invention of Blaze Release. Chidori Nagashi does have a nice ring to it though.


Honestly, not Yamato's best move. I can understand the motive as Sakura's the medic, likely to hesitate due to her emotions and hasn't done anything during this mission to give him much confidence in her abilities.  But Yamato had just been standing behind him or was about to be in relation to Sasuke's attack (though how he could see Sasuke's eyes from that angle?) which would have put him in the ideal position to attack from his blindspot when he attempted to assault Sakura, especially when he's obviously fast enough to move in front of Sasuke before he could even reach Sakura. And I'd expect he'd be better off attacking or defending with his Wood Release instead of just a pair of kunai though I could understand him perhaps not thinking ninjutsu would be fast enough.


I never understood how the Uchiha Clan had a abandoned base like this specifically with decorations related to the Nine-Tails. The first person to control Kurama was Madara who didn't do so until after Konoha had been established and he had abandoned it to restart his feud. This is the kind of base I'd expect to have existed back when they were an independent so why did they have fox decorations? Even if they somehow knew that they could control Kurama - when no-one had ever actually done it - why have that kind of symbolize on their throne?

And if that information had been written on the Uchiha Tablet by Black Zetsu then how do he know and why did he only specify one of the Tailed Beasts?


I wish Sasuke had stuck to his goal of killing the other man responsible for the Uchiha Massacre. Tobi straights up admits to being involved in the slaughter for his own personal grudge and yet, despite deciding that he would kill everyone in Konoha even before he went off the deep end, Sasuke never ever shows any enmity towards "Madara" even when just with Taka or in the privacy of his own thoughts. Honestly, Kishimoto could have revealed that Tobi had planted a genjutsu or juinjutsu when he had Sasuke at his mercy which manipulated his emotions to avoid him feeling hostility against him.

That moment when he killed Zetsu after awakening the Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan would have been a good point, if rather late, since he'd gotten everything he'd needed from Tobi at that point.
 
Tsunade trusts Shizune implicitly. Which means she trusts her do her best for Tsunade, even(especially) doing things Tsunade wouldn't have liked.

Uchiha bases: how do you think Madara knew he could control Kurama in first place? Most likely tales and myths about being able to control Ninetails were part of the Uchiha lore(because the stone tablet), but nobody actually MANAGED to do it until Madara.
 

Altered Nova

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Maybe Indra had managed to control Kurama at some point during his ancient war against Asura?

I find it funny that the advisors ratted Shizune out right in front of Tsunade.

Kushina was a special case because she had the Flying Thunder God marking incorporated into her jinchuuriki seal and the Hokage could teleport to her, or teleport her back to himself, at will. So letting her leave the village and move around unsupervised was a lot less risky. (I know, technically the same is true of Naruto. But him having the same marking in his seal and Konoha having other ninja who can use the Flying Thunder God jutsu was a clumsy and rather pointless retcon from very late in the manga.)

I find it puzzling that in that scene the advisors are giving Tsunade orders and talk about compromising with her; are they overstepping their authority or do they actually have power to overrule her orders to some degree?
 
I find it puzzling that in that scene the advisors are giving Tsunade orders and talk about compromising with her; are they overstepping their authority or do they actually have power to overrule her orders to some degree?
Of course they are overstepping. That's the price for being a Hokage who has been away from the village for almost two decades. They have "connections" and "trust" of the shinobi of the village to a degree Tsunade can't compare at that point in time.
Unless they exaggerate a-la-Danzo, they can pretty much anything they want, the fact they are actually going and discussing with Tsunade tells a lot.
 

Knyght

The Collector
Altered Nova said:
Maybe Indra had managed to control Kurama at some point during his ancient war against Asura?
Makes more sense if there's a historical precedent like that.

Altered Nova said:
Kushina was a special case because she had the Flying Thunder God marking incorporated into her jinchuuriki seal and the Hokage could teleport to her, or teleport her back to himself, at will. So letting her leave the village and move around unsupervised was a lot less risky. (I know, technically the same is true of Naruto. But him having the same marking in his seal and Konoha having other ninja who can use the Flying Thunder God jutsu was a clumsy and rather pointless retcon from very late in the manga.)
There would have been a period of time where Kushina went on missions before Minato even learned the Flying Thunder God Jutsu and then incorporated it into her seal. Impossible to say when that happened other than sometime after they became ninja but I doubt she was just kept in the village until Minato learned it.

DB3 says that they exert "considerable influence over [Konoha's] governance" and feel that Tsunade is "too inexperienced". I think that officially they really are just meant to be the Hokage's advisors like they were with the Third but because of their strong opinions on how things should be done, they take advantage of their influence to try to make her do things their way.

And Konoha is said to be more democratic so it may be that when both advisors (or all three once upon a time) disagree then they have the right to counter it in some way.

That's probably why she deliberately avoided giving them information about Naruto's missions so that she wouldn't be forced to compromise on her plans. But since Shizune herself thinks that his situation should be handled differently we get this.
 
let's remember the Hokage position is literally a matter of trust from the Jonin of the village.

A mistrusted Hokage might suddenly die of natural causes... or generally have people starting NOT telling the complete truth.

Which is, likely, why the Advisories didn't tell Tsunade the truth about the Uchiha massacre: she WOULD have spilled the beans to the Jonins, which, in turn, would have annihilated their trust on the Advisories and, possibly, on the whole local System.
From the little we have seen, it wasn't a matter of personal power(though that could have been part of it) as much as them honestly believing it should have been kept a secret and not trusting Tsunade too much.

Once the war ends and Kakashi becomes Hokage, they most likely retire because the beans have been spilled and because Kakashi has much more influence on the Jonin of the village than them, being a War Hero, teacher of the three bigger Heroes, Eternal Rival of The Guy Who Kicked Madara So Hard Spacetime Curved, experienced and well liked among both Anbu and normal shinobi... sure, he lost an edge with the lack of Sharingan, but the Hokage position is still mostly a desk job and he IS still a genius.
 

Knyght

The Collector

I never noticed all those random casaulties before. Ouch.


Genjutsu blocks and genjutsu traps seem like an interest concept that never gets explored. I suppose genjutsu blocks are a way of protecting information inside someone's mind by twisting their thoughts and genjutsu traps are meant to counter jutsu that actually delve into someone's mind.

And I wonder: did Pain implant these genjutsu blocks because this genin was involved in delivering bodies to the tower shrines or does he implant them in every single ninja of Ame?


It doesn't really matter given how Naruto usually just enters Sage Mode himself in battle or has a clone do it quite quickly but it would have been cool if Naruto had learned how to reverse summon one of his clones directly rather than rely on a scroll.

Though this whole scene seems a tad force. Even if just dispelling the clone doesn't instaneously retrieve the chakra, would the time gap really be so large that everything they did here was actually faster? The fact that the reverse summoning scroll never shows up again doesn't help.


Heh. Pain Master.

Anyway, it's a shame how all of that investigation went to waste as Naruto figured out the whole thing by himself and even tracks Nagato's location which is pretty impressive when none of the other sensors managed to do the same. They should have had Katsuyu relay the information first and then Naruto managing the use the chakra stakes for reverse tracking.


Interesting details on those uniforms are the grips on their feet and the clawed gloves. Never noticed that before.

Konan's dialogue indicates that she's seen the Gedo Mazo and specifically doesn't want Nagato to use it. But it's obvious that Nagato couldn't have used its powers before because he was immediately stabbed by the chakra stakes and had his life force drained by it. I guess Obito revealed its existence to them and warned them that it would drain Nagato's life force beforehand.


Hold up, are they actually inside Ame? Everything about this scene screams Amegakure and none of the other places we've seen in that country look like that place. But these guys aren't actually Ame ninja, they're a separate organisation that Hanzo didn't even know about at first and even operated in specific hideouts rather than from within the hidden village.


In hindsight, Nine-Tails Chakra Mode could have been That Jutsu.

A jutsu that Minato and Kushina had been working on together with the intention of using the Nine-Tails' chakra to create something more powerful than a jinchuuriki's standard chakra cloak or something along those lines. Only  they discovered that they couldn't use it without first mastering the Nine-Tails' chakra which never went anywhere. Minato passed that jutsu to Jiraiya along with the seal's key when he died, hoping that Naruto would be able to do what they couldn't. Jiraiya taught it to Naruto during the training trip but because he couldn't master the Nine-Tails,  he warns Naruto against using it because trying it with that malignant chakra and the unstable mindset would just get him hurt.

Then Naruto finally overcomes the Nine-Tails and takes control of some its chakra which uses for That Jutsu, creating the Nine-Tails Chakra Mode. Abilities like its powerful lifeforce capable of growing trees, freeform shape changing, the ability to share its chakra and other stuff could be attributed to Naruto using That Jutsu.


Hidan might have worked better as a Part 1 villain than a member of Akatsuki. If Kishimoto had followed through with creating more story arcs after the Land of Waves then Hidan could have been introduced as a enemy ninja more powerful and more evil than Zabuza but still within the realm of being beatable by someone of Kakashi's level unlike Orochimaru who'd appear later. Perhaps a mission to the Village That Forgot War that goes horribly wrong.


A feat like this would have been better suited for the next Tsuchikage, Kurotsuchi. Unlike Darui who got a small fight during the Kage Summit and a bigger fight against the Gold and Silver Brothers, all Kurotsuchi does is fail against Kabuto and help her dad capture a bunch of Zetsu. I like to think that she's as good as her dad at Earth Release with Lava Release on top anyway but there's nothing ever shown to us to back that up.


Rather than the Kinkaku Force being responsible for the Second Hokage's death, it might have had more of an impact if it was the Gold and Silver Brothers who did the deed. Even now, we know nothing about the Kinkaku Force or their relation to Kinkaku himself but we end up seeing a fair bit of the brothers themselves. Of course, I could have done without the silly tools and just focuses on their jinchuuriki forms but still.Tobirama dying against two pseudo-jinchuuriki he'd fought before to protect his team - and killing them both in the process to explain how they even died - seems a lot more epic and impactful than dying against a force of twenty jounin. The other Kages where we know how they died seemed to die against other Kages, criminals on the level of Kages or just unbelievable odds.
 

Altered Nova

Well-Known Member
Maybe Naruto couldn't dispel his clone from a distance because the clone had more chakra than he created it with. Perhaps the jutsu is only designed to return the leftover chakra from it's creation to the user... that is, it has a small "bandwidth." All the extra senjutsu chakra it created by absorbing nature energy would have been lost in transmission. I have no idea why a scroll was necessary to reverse summon though.

If Nine-Tails Chakra mode is That Jutsu, then why doesn't Naruto show any surprise when his father does it too? (Hell why doesn't the manga ever explain what the fuck That Jutsu is?) Naruto never visually does anything different when entering that mode, he doesn't perform handseals or molding his chakra differently or anything. He even seems surprised by it after he first uses it, like he didn't know it was going to happen.

Wouldn't it make more sense to say that That Jutsu is the Torii Seal that Naruto replaces his old seal with after unlocking it with the key? He had to have learned that sealing jutsu from somewhere...
 

Knyght

The Collector
Sorry, I wasn't suggesting that Nine-Tails Chakra Mode actually was That Jutsu. Only that instead of just leaving That Jutsu unexplained, the Nine-Tails Chakra Mode itself could have been the answer and simultaneously give a reason for Naruto's jinchuuriki powers to start working in such a different way.
 
Summoning scroll is necessary because otherwise they'd summon Naruto himself. They had to make one specifically for the clones, most likely.
I also agree with the idea of dispelled Senjutsu chakra dispersing over distance, at least long-ass distances like Myoboku-Konoha

Kurotsuchi apparently also is a Genjutsu Mistress, from the character profiles of the BORUTO movie(IIRC)
 

Knyght

The Collector

I'd love to know how Kakashi is perfectly capable of chatting with everyone despite being trapped inside the Water Prison Jutsu. He isn't remotely worried about suffocating despite being in their for a good few minutes and using up oxygen to talk where clearly projects his voice all the way to his team.


Temari and Kankuro have the exact same mission history as Gaara despite Temari being a ninja for three years and Kankuro for two. So they were essentially being held back from a possible promotion for years and apparently couldn't go on any missions as genin until they were placed on Gaara's team. Although they all have a question mark next to D-rank rather than a zero unlike everyone else for some reason.


Technically, Chouji's using the Partial Multi-Size Jutsu here since here's only blown up his torso whereas his limbs and head are still at their original size. Then he jumps straight to the Super Multi-Size Jutsu in the Sasuke Retrieval Arc and doesn't seem to use the proper Multi-Size Jutsu until Hidan and Kakuzu. I'm not sure whether he just lacks the skill to inflate his entire body at this point or he just does it deliberately to use his Human Bullet Tank rather than fighting directly.


The fact that these Chuunin Exams are intended only for those within their alliance makes me wonder how the other villages do things. Do they have exams where only their own ninja attend like Konoha used to? Do they have international exams but strictly between their allies instead? Or are promotions strictly through appointment without any exams at all?


The Temporary Paralysis Jutsu should have been a commonly used skill like the Body Flicker Jutsu, in my opinion. As a D-rank jutsu which makes it perfectly suitable to be taught to genin, levels up with skill and just looks quite useful.

Even in fanfiction, writers usually just jump to giving Naruto and his team C-rank elemental jutsu and the like rather than building up their fundamentals with jutsu more suited to their level. I'd like to see someone actually use that one-off mentions of Jiraiya's Transparency Escape Jutsu for instance.


It would have been nice to see Kurenai in action here. Every other jounin sensei was shown actively participating in the fight with Kakashi and Gai bitchslapping enemy ninja and Asuma rescuing her pupil but she just vanishes until now. She wasn't even shown among the characters breaking Kabuto's genjutsu despite being the specialist.

There's probably a joke about women in Naruto here somehwere. Even in the next chapter, Tsume and Hana are the only ones not actually shown to be doing anything because it changes scene right before they start fighting, as opposed to the other parents showing off their skills. Hell, Tsume's the only parent here who's just a special jounin rather than full jounin.

And, of course, there's Uzuki Yugao who I now realise had been chilling at the memorial after the invasion had been going on for at least an hour.


Odd that Kisame is shown sinking into the ground instead of being captured in a tree like Itachi. That, on top of Kurenai vanishing from sight and how long it's apparently taking, makes it look like she's actually doing multiple illusions rather than a singular jutsu (though the invisibility part shows up in the databook at least).
 

Altered Nova

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I assume that Kakashi being able to talk in the water prison is a feature of the jutsu, rather than a skill of Kakashi. It is a "prison" jutsu after all, and drowning your prisoner would be quite counterproductive, while silencing them would make it difficult to interrogate them. The water is probably super oxygenated or something so the prisoner can still breathe and talk while being trapped.

Yeah Temari and Kankuro were probably being groomed specifically to be Gaara's teammates so they likely were held back from normal missions and given advanced training until Gaara was ready to join them.

Chuunin exams probably vary depending on the village. Konoha and Suna are probably unique in being major villages holding joint exams - Kumo backstabbed Konoha when they tried to sign a peace treaty, Iwa has a history of undermining their rival villages indirectly such as by hiring Akatsuki to perform missions they cannot be directly involved in, and Kiri was so barbaric until recently that no one else would be willing to accept their invitations. So if the other major villages do hold cooperative exams then they probably only invite minor villages to participate.

Jiraiya used the transparency escape jutsu for "research" (aka peeping at hot springs) and if I recall correctly the paralysis jutsu was only used on animals. Probably genin are taught how to counter those jutsu in the academy and they only work on civilians and non-sentient animals.

No way was Yugao and her entire team just sitting around at a memorial and ignoring the invasion for an hour. The manga has to be showing that scene out of chronological order or something. Or maybe they were fighting for an hour and were moving across the city to reach the next battlefield... the memorial just happened to be on the way there and they stopped for only a few seconds to let Yugao swear vengeance on Hayate's grave.
 

Knyght

The Collector
Altered Nova said:
I assume that Kakashi being able to talk in the water prison is a feature of the jutsu, rather than a skill of Kakashi. It is a "prison" jutsu after all, and drowning your prisoner would be quite counterproductive, while silencing them would make it difficult to interrogate them. The water is probably super oxygenated or something so the prisoner can still breathe and talk while being trapped.
Apparently not since Tenten couldn't breathe when Kisame used it. But it could be that the caster can actually choose how it's utilized; Zabuza could have let him have more freedom out of sadism before killing him whereas Kisame just wanted them out of the way and dead.

Jiraiya used the transparency escape jutsu for "research" (aka peeping at hot springs) and if I recall correctly the paralysis jutsu was only used on animals. Probably genin are taught how to counter those jutsu in the academy and they only work on civilians and non-sentient animals.
Turns out that Orochimaru used it on Sasuke and Sakura in the forest as well and the description definitely makes it sounds like it's intended for enemies. It wouldn't have been the be all and end all but it looks like something that would have come in handy.

Perhaps it seemed a bit too similar to Shadow Possession Jutsu or Mind Body Disturbance Jutsu and get swept under the rug.

No way was Yugao and her entire team just sitting around at a memorial and ignoring the invasion for an hour. The manga has to be showing that scene out of chronological order or something. Or maybe they were fighting for an hour and were moving across the city to reach the next battlefield... the memorial just happened to be on the way there and they stopped for only a few seconds to let Yugao swear vengeance on Hayate's grave.
One can only hope. I get the impression that Kishimoto came up with her retroactively and did this to introduce her in relation to Hayate, not quite catching how out of place it looks. Maybe he had plans for her that never got used, especially since Anbu got quite prevalent during this arc before fading out again.
 

Altered Nova

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knight504 said:
Turns out that Orochimaru used it on Sasuke and Sakura in the forest as well and the description definitely makes it sounds like it's intended for enemies.
Are you sure about that? Sasuke describes what Orochimaru did to them as "casting an illusion" and "it's not... death... just an incredible simulation!" They also don't react the same way as the tigers, who were frozen in place, but instead collapse to the ground trembling from fear. Orochimaru even points out that Sasuke stabbed himself to focus on the pain and block out the illusion... which is a well known counter to genjutsu.

So yeah, I have to disagree with the idea that Orochimaru use the temporary paralysis jutsu on Sasuke and Sakura. It was clearly a genjutsu.
 

Altered Nova

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Oh wow, I never noticed that before. Ok yeah, that second time he paralyzes them it definitely looks like it's the actual temporary paralysis jutsu. He doesn't even use a handseal, that's impressive.

In that case then, yeah why isn't that jutsu used more often? Being a D-rank, perhaps it will only work on an opponent that you already completely outclass. If their chakra capacity/strength is even close to comparable to your own they'll simply break free from it immediately.
 

Knyght

The Collector
I suspect it's the kind of skill that gets less useful the higher up they go in the world for most people. Like the Clone Jutsu; Sakura used it against Ino and Temari planned to it on Shikamaru but at the higher levels, it's not worth the effort given the respective skill of those involved.


Apparently those guys are actually Suna Anbu rather than just a standard group of ninja. Konoha and Kiri both wore ceramic masks so I assumed that was the norm for all countries. I suppose Suna has to make allowances for their native environment in regards to the masks but even their uniform look the same as any other ninja. I wish we'd seen the Anbu uniforms for Iwa and Kumo too now.


They say to cover the Kazekage and yet I don't recall a single person doing anything to help. They're apparently got ninja who use fans like Temari so you'd think someone would provide air support with wind jutsu. The anime had them using ballistas, IIRC.

And Suna's Medical Corps are versed in barrier ninjutsu for the sake of protecting civilians and presumably their patients. I suppose it's ideal for protecting people if they are too far away from any evacuation shelters though I don't recall any medic-nin ever using barrier ninjutsu or suggesting they have some knowledge. It could have been an interesting skill for Sakura to learn; when evasion fails, block instead.


Kankuro needs three big scrolls for each puppet while Chiyo can store ten and Sasori can store a hundred in a hand-sized scroll. Ah, how far he has to go.

Except he's stuck with the same scrolls in the war arc too so there doesn't seem to be much improvement in that area. As the strongest puppeteer in Suna at the time, I'd have hoped he could have jumped up to using at least ten puppets himself by the time of the war, dedicating himself to training after his defeat to Sasori and the loss of their two greatest puppeteers. He does look quite boss as an adult though.


It's actually quite impressive that Naruto was able to react and defend with a shadow clone before Kakashi when he was off-balance and behind him.


I see all this effort Naruto puts into summoning a single shuriken and can't help but remember Sasuke storing an armoury inside a wristband.

If only Naruto knew the Shuriken Shadow Clone Jutsu...


They're pretty quick to replace Gaara considering they spent at least a year without a Kazekage at all. And they were talking about how things had improved for Suna all around during the previous meeting so he's not exactly causing problems. Is there anyone even suitable to become the new Kazekage? Temari?


I wonder if the Third Kazekage stored his iron sand inside his body back when he was alive. It'd be a clever way of ensuring that he's never unarmed and a nice bit of psychological warfare.

It's a good thing Kishimoto retroactively decided to make this is a kekkei genkai because having "special physical constitution" that granted unique abilities on top of kekkei genkai and the rest would have been a bit much. That said, I wish it had been a Metal Release kekkei genkai rather than Magnet Release to better match its counterparts.


Back when the rings actually mattered. Only reason I can think that there important is because they were required in letting anyone other than Pain participate in the ritual for sealing Tailed Beasts. But that doesn't explain why they can't replace Orochimaru's ring with another and find a new tenth member.
 
About Naruto's giant scroll, I think there may be MANY different weapons in that... I doubt all those symbols are for just one giant shuriken
 
Yorae Rasante said:
About Naruto's giant scroll, I think there may be MANY different weapons in that... I doubt all those symbols are for just one giant shuriken
Actually, it's likely- normal summoning scroll have complex design, with many small symbols circling\converging to a main one.
Naruto's is very simple designed with big symbols.

I'm going to guess this is Naruto's own handiwork and he just suck compared to others(who might or might not outsource)
 

Knyght

The Collector
So reading a small rant prompted me to find out exactly what Sakura does during the Hidan and Kakuzu arc since I end up forgetting about her around the time.


Starting from the team meeting with Kakashi onwards:

And that's pretty much it. No wonder I forget about her.
 
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