Ranma ½ Rosario + Ranma

Hawk

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So a Happosai clone as well then. Kind of ridiculous. That point about succubi about fits my expectations given what I saw in series 1. Still rather stupid, but I thought the vampires far far more ridiculous.
 
shiki said:
tigros40208 said:
What was the deal with the Succubi?
A succubus dies if their "destined one" or something rejects them.
And this happens often enough that the entire species is under threat of extinction? Between the hypnosis and being scorching hot, you'd think that would barely qualify as population control.
Hmm... That does give me an idea, though.
 

Hawk

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Black Dragon74 said:
shiki said:
tigros40208 said:
What was the deal with the Succubi?
A succubus dies if their "destined one" or something rejects them.
And this happens often enough that the entire species is under threat of extinction? Between the hypnosis and being scorching hot, you'd think that would barely qualify as population control.
Hmm... That does give me an idea, though.
:snigger: Yeah I'd think either of those would give very decent odds on survival by itself. I can see why this would break suspension of disbelief.

I'm curious what your idea will be though, I bet it will be hilarious.
 
That's really what they went with for the Succubi thing? I always assumed it was just ridiculously low fertility rates, or like, most of the children from any coupling are whatever the father was, with actual Succubi births being few and far between.

That's just stupid.
 

Hawk

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Shadowseraph said:
That's really what they went with for the Succubi thing? I always assumed it was just ridiculously low fertility rates, or like, most of the children from any coupling are whatever the father was, with actual Succubi births being few and far between.

That's just stupid.
Those would have been much more reasonable answers, lol.

I have no inclination to check, but I do believe we discussed this much earlier in this thread and an additional common speculation was that Succubi could only produce children with one individual and for the most part never found that person.

To add an additional layer of disbelief to this explanation: why would succubi actively seek their "Destined one" then? If they don't find that person they are fine, but if they are rejected they die. Why the hell would they go looking?
 
Shadowseraph said:
That's really what they went with for the Succubi thing? I always assumed it was just ridiculously low fertility rates, or like, most of the children from any coupling are whatever the father was, with actual Succubi births being few and far between.

That's just stupid.
Yeah, I've heard a lot of perfectly reasonable (and not reasonable but still plausible, or at least entertaining) theories in this thread. I was not aware that canon had actually addressed the issue until now.
Like in most other aspects, it disappoints. But whatever. I look at the creaky, fragile plot devices of canon as a challenge rather than an impediment.
 

sworded

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Oh and the newest chapter has shown that with enough training succubi can become illusion casters.
 

Hawk

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Black Dragon74 said:
Shadowseraph said:
That's really what they went with for the Succubi thing? I always assumed it was just ridiculously low fertility rates, or like, most of the children from any coupling are whatever the father was, with actual Succubi births being few and far between.

That's just stupid.
Yeah, I've heard a lot of perfectly reasonable (and not reasonable but still plausible, or at least entertaining) theories in this thread. I was not aware that canon had actually addressed the issue until now.
Like in most other aspects, it disappoints. But whatever. I look at the creaky, fragile plot devices of canon as a challenge rather than an impediment.
So if we accepted this point, then Yukari was endangering Kurumu's life!
 
inverted helix said:
Black Dragon74 said:
Shadowseraph said:
That's really what they went with for the Succubi thing? I always assumed it was just ridiculously low fertility rates, or like, most of the children from any coupling are whatever the father was, with actual Succubi births being few and far between.

That's just stupid.
Yeah, I've heard a lot of perfectly reasonable (and not reasonable but still plausible, or at least entertaining) theories in this thread. I was not aware that canon had actually addressed the issue until now.
Like in most other aspects, it disappoints. But whatever. I look at the creaky, fragile plot devices of canon as a challenge rather than an impediment.
So if we accepted this point, then Yukari was endangering Kurumu's life!
That won't earn her much sympathy, considering that she attacked Tsukune and Moka in a jealous rage when she was first introduced.
Not that anybody ever holds it against her, but still. Yukari has never assaulted anyone with lethal intent.
 

Garahs

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I find it amusing that you people are complaining about the rediculousness of mating habits and other biological traits of beings who fly with wings too small to adequately support them, girls who spontaneously create ice, multitudes of beings who can reduce their apparent mass and size, etc., etc.

And then there are monster creation myths like centaurs...
 
Well that just speaks for how silly and nonsensical those reproductive practices are, yeah? :p
 

bissek

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I don't think that succubi being the only race capable of literally dying from heartbreak was mentioned as the reason that they're near extinction, though it's probably a contributing factor. One sufficiently cruel or uncaring Casanova might have done a lot of damage to a few succubi communities, though.
 
Garahs said:
I find it amusing that you people are complaining about the rediculousness of mating habits and other biological traits of beings who fly with wings too small to adequately support them, girls who spontaneously create ice, multitudes of beings who can reduce their apparent mass and size, etc., etc.

And then there are monster creation myths like centaurs...
Bah, the answer to all those mysteries is well known: magic!

But a biological mechanism that kills its host organism after suffering significant (though hardly extreme) emotional trauma? If it had the same excuse (magic!) then it would be fine, and as a result I intend to play it off as such. But the suggestion that this is simply the nature of succubae, and thus the result of proper evolution, demands scorn!
Also, it distracts people from asking what a huge colony of unreasonably large spiders eats to sustain itself when they run out of cats and the students learn to be more careful.
'Cause it aint magic.

I don't think that succubi being the only race capable of literally dying from heartbreak was mentioned as the reason that they're near extinction, though it's probably a contributing factor. One sufficiently cruel or uncaring Casanova might have done a lot of damage to a few succubi communities, though.
It WOULD be supremely ironic if a race of seductresses were devastated by a man with ungodly charm, moving through the community and then dumping them all once he'd had his fun.
Huh. That actually gives me another idea. But it conflicts with the first one, slightly. What to do...
 

Li Qin

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To me it sounds more like the species itself has suicidal depression and the only way from them to ignore it is either to be screwing or planning their next screw.

So when they do get dumped or don't find anyone they kill themselves.
 

Hawk

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Black Dragon74 said:
That won't earn her much sympathy, considering that she attacked Tsukune and Moka in a jealous rage when she was first introduced.
Not that anybody ever holds it against her, but still. Yukari has never assaulted anyone with lethal intent.
Well she's accidentally went after both Ranma and Kurumu with lethal attacks in this story.

Though I do have to wonder if Succubi were actually created by a Wizard that wanted to ensure their "undying" loyalty.
 

Sebazu

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inverted helix said:
Black Dragon74 said:
That won't earn her much sympathy, considering that she attacked Tsukune and Moka in a jealous rage when she was first introduced.
Not that anybody ever holds it against her, but still. Yukari has never assaulted anyone with lethal intent.
Well she's accidentally went after both Ranma and Kurumu with lethal attacks in this story.

Though I do have to wonder if Succubi were actually created by a Wizard that wanted to ensure their "undying" loyalty.
...That's actually a really good theory since it solves both the magic issue and the illogical biology one....and uses the completely bullshit yet classical excuse of " a wizard did it!".
 
inverted helix said:
Black Dragon74 said:
That won't earn her much sympathy, considering that she attacked Tsukune and Moka in a jealous rage when she was first introduced.
Not that anybody ever holds it against her, but still. Yukari has never assaulted anyone with lethal intent.
Well she's accidentally went after both Ranma and Kurumu with lethal attacks in this story.

Though I do have to wonder if Succubi were actually created by a Wizard that wanted to ensure their "undying" loyalty.
Ah, so <a href='http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AWizardDidIt' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>a wizard did it</a>.
Truly we've scraped the bottom of the barrel when that serves as a "reasonable" explanation.
 

TenguPhule

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Black Dragon74 said:
Also, it distracts people from asking what a huge colony of unreasonably large spiders eats to sustain itself when they run out of cats and the students learn to be more careful.
'Cause it aint magic.
Caterpillar Ranches of course!

Giant Bloodthirsty Mutated Caterpillars with spikes and horns remaining from the Triassic Period located in the portable dimension the Headmaster keeps all those pesky rare killer brainless monsters that only show up as plot demands.
 
TenguPhule said:
Black Dragon74 said:
Also, it distracts people from asking what a huge colony of unreasonably large spiders eats to sustain itself when they run out of cats and the students learn to be more careful.
'Cause it aint magic.
Caterpillar Ranches of course!

Giant Bloodthirsty Mutated Caterpillars with spikes and horns remaining from the Triassic Period located in the portable dimension the Headmaster keeps all those pesky rare killer brainless monsters that only show up as plot demands.
So evidently one of the revelations of Enlightenment was the advantages of animal husbandry.
Works for me!
 

Hawk

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Sebazu said:
inverted helix said:
Well she's accidentally went after both Ranma and Kurumu with lethal attacks in this story.

Though I do have to wonder if Succubi were actually created by a Wizard that wanted to ensure their "undying" loyalty.
...That's actually a really good theory since it solves both the magic issue and the illogical biology one....and uses the completely bullshit yet classical excuse of " a wizard did it!".
That was exactly what I was going for.

Black Dragon74 said:
Ah, so a wizard did it.
Truly we've scraped the bottom of the barrel when that serves as a "reasonable" explanation.
You must admit that it is the most reasonable of a wide variety of very bad explanations though :p .

Black Dragon74 said:
So evidently one of the revelations of Enlightenment was the advantages of animal husbandry.
Works for me!
Really it's the only way they could sustain an increasing stationary population without resorting to hunting parties which would result in a bit too much carnage to be laughed off easily.
 
inverted helix said:
Black Dragon74 said:
So evidently one of the revelations of Enlightenment was the advantages of animal husbandry.
Works for me!
Really it's the only way they could sustain an increasing stationary population without resorting to hunting parties which would result in a bit too much carnage to be laughed off easily.
See, this is why I wanted everybody distracted from the subject!

Though how easy it is to laugh off depends on what's being hunted.

I doubt many people would get offended by the idea of a confused cattle farmer wondering about a steady drop in his livestock headcount (yet another gift from the gods!) And why there are spider webs big enough to sit in stretched across portions of his barn.
People might find a zoo suspiciously devoid of animals slightly less funny, but I'm sure they'll get over it.
 
lokinishizaki said:
Heh. I wonder if they could survive on a diet of Saffron.
They probably could, were it not for the fact that even Saffron could easily handle any spiders that aren't at least human sized. They might put him down through sheer numbers or cunning traps, but he'd still kill way too many to be worth the eats.
There's a reason they don't hunt the "false gods" actively, and it's not because they're theologically opposed to killing Master's ungrateful disciples.
 

WarGiver

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Black Dragon74 said:
lokinishizaki said:
Heh.? I wonder if they could survive on a diet of Saffron.
They probably could, were it not for the fact that even Saffron could easily handle any spiders that aren't at least human sized. They might put him down through sheer numbers or cunning traps, but he'd still kill way too many to be worth the eats.
There's a reason they don't hunt the "false gods" actively, and it's not because they're theologically opposed to killing Master's ungrateful disciples.
Clearly they make exceptions for the unworthy ones who make themselves targets. Its not the Spider's fault that the fly lands in the web, but the fly is there and the Spider must eat.
 
WarGiver said:
Black Dragon74 said:
lokinishizaki said:
Heh.á I wonder if they could survive on a diet of Saffron.
They probably could, were it not for the fact that even Saffron could easily handle any spiders that aren't at least human sized. They might put him down through sheer numbers or cunning traps, but he'd still kill way too many to be worth the eats.
There's a reason they don't hunt the "false gods" actively, and it's not because they're theologically opposed to killing Master's ungrateful disciples.
Clearly they make exceptions for the unworthy ones who make themselves targets. Its not the Spider's fault that the fly lands in the web, but the fly is there and the Spider must eat.
Well, they do defend themselves, obviously, but that's not really hunting, even if the result is the same.
 
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