SB banned me; I'm looking for a new forum...

[Garahs]

Do not post or link to adult content on this board.

Now, I have absolutely no problems keeping NSFW in it's own section, but from the topics and registration rules that I can see so far, the forum doesn't even have that.

Edit: Ok, I guess it's going to be added later? But then it should be clarified when you go to register to keep it in it's own section.

 

[lord geryon]

Eh... the divide here is more between "pornographic" and "not porn", then perhaps it is between "SFW" and "NSFW", you know?

Well, yeah. Visual or literary porn belongs in the nsfw section. If it doesn't show(or describe) sex or genitals, it doesn't need to be restricted to there.

 

[lord geryon]

Do not post or link to adult content on this board.

Now, I have absolutely no problems keeping NSFW in it's own section, but from the topics and registration rules that I can see so far, the forum doesn't even have that.

I don't recall seeing that.

There is a NSFW section on the board, tho.

 

[ragnarok1337]

You might want to insist on disclosure given with links...á no raw linking or no links w/o descriptions...

Done.

So anyone up to being a Mod?

I'd take the job, but that might make people avoid the forum out of principle.

I am not surprised in the least.

 

[sikle]

I've been here five years and have posted a total of 35 posts as of now. I've already made an account on your new forum.
I don't know if you'd like a silent lurker as a mod, and I'm not really gunning hard for the position but if you want someone to weigh in with a second opinion I'd gladly make myself available.

 

[WizardOne]

You might want to insist on disclosure given with links...á no raw linking or no links w/o descriptions...

Done.

So anyone up to being a Mod?

I'd take the job, but that might make people avoid the forum out of principle.

It'll be advertised with a new form of Moderating.

First a warning from a mod to change their content if it's deemed too NSFW (Which I've been pretty clear about in the rules section)
Then if they contest it they can either have a talk with an admin/other mod and it cna either be private or public.
The evidence is reviewed and it is determined who is at fault.
For the most part Bannings and such will be reserved for repeat offenders and those who've made big fuck ups (like posting horrible porn outside the NSFW section) For the most part it's just letting the member edit their posts or move their thread if it stops being work safe (defined as no porn and nor gorn).

Also mods are not immune to the rules and ban happy mods will be banned themselves.

Quick suggestion, put the most likely to be heavily populated sections towards the top of the listing, I see that ZNT is at the very bottom, but would in fact probably be the most popular section.

 

[Prince Charon]

@daniel_gudman: Thank you for checking, anyway.

Yeah, that was the only thing I could think of that might have caused a ban (that I'd actually done, anyway), and it only occurred to me in hindsight, wondering why I got banned.?? The whole point of posting it to SB.com (and I think I might have said that, in a later post) was to get a non-sexual PoV on it!

On another note, aren't we supposed to get a warning for the first offense??? I don't recall ever getting one for previous posts, though if it's been long enough, I could have forgotten it.?? Also, how does one go about appealing a ban, if the banning process prevents one from starting a conversation (when I went to SB.com, I saw that there was a message in my Inbox, but naturally couldn't get to it; might have been about the ban, but who knows)??? Anyone want to risk asking about those points, or do you think questioning a mod like that will be a bannable offense?

This is coming from a partially outside perspective (I do post on SB, but I don't think I was ever involved in the threads in question), but perhaps it might have helped if you specified that you were specifically going to keep the idea entirely non-sexual?

Maybe. I believe I said so in a later post, but the mod might not have read that, or might have ignored it. It does show I should not post when tired, but at the time, I thought the implication was obvious, because I was posting it on SB.com. I keep forgetting that just because I know I'm not an idiot, doesn't mean everybody else does.

I can't quite make my mind up over if I think they jumped the gun or not. I know that if I saw it without any context that there was no sexual intent behind the idea, I'd be very uncomfortable, so I can see why they would lean on the side of caution. On the other hand, I would have expected a warning first. Though now that I think about it, I haven't checked the announcement about NSFW = ban sticky for some time, so maybe it says in there that they are being less tolerant of that particular topic?

I don't think so, or at least, I don't recall anything like that. I'll be unbanned tomorrow or the next day, IIRC, so I can go look. The problem is, most people will read that announcement once, and maybe a few more times, and then it becomes background noise, so editing it without, say, changing the font colour to get attention is not going to result in people reading it. That's (AFAIK) the whole reason they have announcements with different font colours.

EDIT: BTW, there's a person who replied to that idea, who had an even more disturbing (though non-sexual) version of it. Did he/she get a ban or warning at all, and if not, why not?

 

[WizardOne]

So I had a thread going about the ideal CRW forum on SB, four mods have posted in it so far, and a lot of people. 90 percent of the people have been calling me a creeper for daring to question the status quo, but all the mods

EXCEPT THANATOS have been very polite and taken part in the discussion.

Thanatos was a massive cunt in his one post.

We're actually discussing your ban now charon and how it was completely out of nowhere, I've linked some posts by Cpl_facehugger in his Prototype/ZNT crossover which are WAY more creepy and sexualised as a counterpoint, and its causing debate

 

[Prince Charon]

So I had a thread going about the ideal CRW forum on SB, four mods have posted in it so far, and a lot of people. 90 percent of the people have been calling me a creeper for daring to question the status quo, but all the mods

EXCEPT THANATOS have been very polite and taken part in the discussion.

Thanatos was a massive cunt in his one post.

We're actually discussing your ban now charon and how it was completely out of nowhere, I've linked some posts by Cpl_facehugger in his Prototype/ZNT crossover which are WAY more creepy and sexualised as a counterpoint, and its causing debate

Thank you. I'd like to have a look at it, once my ban is up, so what is the title, please?

Yeah, some of Facehugger's stuff is pretty creepy and wrong, no matter how well written.

You may also want to post the reply I got, that I found more disturbing than the idea I posted, as while I don't really think that person (who's name I've forgotten) should be banned for it, I really do find it very disturbing, despite it's lack of sexuality.

As for Thanatos, I liked and respected him more, before he became an admin - and before he became a mod, I think. Power has not been good for him, to the point that I'm pleasantly surprised that you haven't been banned for starting such a thread, and that said thread hasn't been locked.

 

[WizardOne]

So I had a thread going about the ideal CRW forum on SB, four mods have posted in it so far, and a lot of people. 90 percent of the people have been calling me a creeper for daring to question the status quo, but all the mods

EXCEPT THANATOS have been very polite and taken part in the discussion.

Thanatos was a massive cunt in his one post.

We're actually discussing your ban now charon and how it was completely out of nowhere, I've linked some posts by Cpl_facehugger in hisá Prototype/ZNT crossover which are WAY more creepy and sexualised as a counterpoint, and its causing debate

Thank you. I'd like to have a look at it, once my ban is up, so what is the title, please?

Yeah, some of Facehugger's stuff is pretty creepy and wrong, no matter how well written.

You may also want to post the reply I got, that I found more disturbing than the idea I posted, as while I don't really think that person (who's name I've forgotten) should be banned for it, I really do find it very disturbing, despite it's lack of sexuality.

As for Thanatos, I liked and respected him more, before he became an admin - and before he became a mod, I think. Power has not been good for him, to the point that I'm pleasantly surprised that you haven't been banned for starting such a thread, and that said thread hasn't been locked.

I have been. EXTREMELY careful and polite, almost to the point of obsequiousness.


<a href='http://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/is-spacebattles-the-right-place-to-host-a-creative-writing-forum.248938/page-6' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/is-...m.248938/page-6</a>

The first few pages are just people being shitheads, and me crying at them to stop, but it starts to get interesting at about page 4.

The mods have also admitted to thinking about nuking the entire CRW section, but deciding against it.

I almost hope they do, it would allow a new CRW forum to evolve somewhere less... shit.

 

[Maelgrim]

The sheer hostility you received is kind of worrying, given the way Earthscorpion reacted you'd think you were dismissing the entirety of the forum as a group of crazy puritanical nutbars.

 

[lord geryon]

The sheer hostility you received is kind of worrying, given the way Earthscorpion reacted you'd think you were dismissing the entirety of the forum as a group of crazy puritanical nutbars.

The hostility received from daring to question the board policy on the topic basically MAKES them into puritanical nutbars.

 

[Maelgrim]

Its just so weird really, everyone on that site is so obsessed with OMG ZEH CRREPERS! that even asking what was so wrong about something has you labelled as a freaking paedophile who likes to screw farm animals.

Especially aggravating is the double standard 'established' authors like Earthscorpion and Cpl Facehugger enjoy; I enjoy their work immensely but fail to understand how the aforementioned date-rape scenario in Facehugger's fic and Louise convincing herself that she wants to get married and sleep with Wardes in Greensun Princess (isn't she still underage?*) are fine when the mere inference of something possibly sexual is instantly banned.

*see I had no problem with this, it fit the framework of the story and helped frame just how scared Louise was and how desperate she was for even the illusion of stability and tradition but if other stories can't get away with having internal fictional variations in age of consent why does this one manage it?

 

[lord geryon]

I hate the word creeper, as it gets used in those discussions. It has no real meaning, it's completely subjective. What is fine to one is 'creeper' material to another. Basically, it boils down to: "I don't like your fetish, therefore I am going to label you with a term that bring to mind child-molesters and rapists."

It's purely ad hominem and appeal to emotion. No logic at all. No surprise it comes directly from radical feminists.

And fuck you Firefox, hominem is a word.

 

[NuitTombee]

Indeed, they toss around creeper so often and complain when people dare say what they do is censoring.

 

[WizardOne]

Spacebattles is an intensely right wing forum.

Do not, EVER, question the American Military, Christianity, or the status quo. Also, pretend that no one has any kind of sexuality beyond 'Lights out in the missionary position for the sole purpose of procreation.'

Probably an exaggeration, but I'm feeling frustrated :lol:

 

[lord geryon]

No, that really is the vibe they put off. They're so terrified of sex and actual rules that they resort to shaming, trolling, insults, etc to try and gloss it over and hide it.

It's incredibly amusing too, that they claim it's because Kier would be professionally affected by it. If that was true, the forum wouldn't be running on a shitty server, on software that is in legal trouble with another, larger, software developer.

 

[NuitTombee]

If that was true, the forum wouldn't be running on a shitty server, on software that is in legal trouble with another, larger, software developer.

What's this?

 

[lord geryon]

If that was true, the forum wouldn't be running on a shitty server, on software that is in legal trouble with another, larger, software developer.

What's this?

<a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XenForo#Internet_Brands_lawsuits' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XenForo#Inter...Brands_lawsuits</a>

Basically, the creator of vbulletin is accusing XenForo of a bunch of stuff, such as ripping off their code. This happening specifically because of Kier, because he worked on vbulletin before becoming a developer for XenForo.

 

[Dark Knight Gafgar]

Spacebattles is an intensely right wing forum.

Do not, EVER, question the American Military, Christianity, or the status quo.

 

[WizardOne]

If that was true, the forum wouldn't be running on a shitty server, on software that is in legal trouble with another, larger, software developer.

What's this?

<a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XenForo#Internet_Brands_lawsuits' target='_blank' rel='nofollow'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XenForo#Inter...Brands_lawsuits</a>

Basically, the creator of vbulletin is accusing XenForo of a bunch of stuff, such as ripping off their code. This happening specifically because of Kier, because he worked on vbulletin before becoming a developer for XenForo.

Thats quite amusing. I don't know if I hope it works, or not.

I'd definitely appreciate if the CRW forum was somewhere else, possibly somewhere less puritanical.

 

[Master of Squirrel-Fu]

Okay fix'd it a bit. The NSFW section should be visible now. To guest they can see it but not enter it.

I've edited the News/rules board. You guys should see and be able to post there

The NSFW section exists, you just have to be a member to enter it.

Right now I'm thinking of nukin the Videogames section and simply leaving it to the General forums.


And please feel free to start posting now, it's pretty much finished it just needs a little polishing now. Anyone looking to be a mod should PM me.


@wizard: I have no idea how to move them without simply deleting a bunch and remaking them afterwards. I'll try though.

 

[WizardOne]

So new development: Someone reminded everyone that CPL facehugger wrote an entire chapter about how lord mott put girls in slave/shock collars and then tortured them sexually and physically until they were broken husks for use in his collection, and wasnt warned or banned.

This is amusing to me because its EXACTLY what charon was banned for, except twenty times worse, and reading the thread now, dozens of people are jumping up and down desperate to climb n Facehuggers cock and defend him.

I literally couldn't breathe for a few minutes. Too funny.

The sheer hypocrisy and bias... the judgementalism and knee jerk hate reactions...

Wow, SB is like, possibly the shittiest forum I know.

@Master: I'll let you know if I figure it out. Also, do the boards you're using ALLOW adult content? Because if someone posts some kind of MLP porn or summat and the board gets axed, no one will be happy.

 

[ragnarok1337]

That would be me. And what did Charon get banned for? Since you are the one who started the whole discussion, there's a bias against you. Me? They might be less willing to go with knee-jerk reactions if I bring it up.

 

[WizardOne]

That would be me. And what did Charon get banned for? Since you are the one who started the whole discussion, there's a bias against you. Me? They might be less willing to go with knee-jerk reactions if I bring it up.

Charon posted an idea snippet, and it was like, So hagrid comes to pick up harry, and Harry answers the door and he has hermione there with a collar. He tells harry she's his servant/slave or something, because she made a mistake while experimenting and killed someone, and has therefore been punished.

Mod then axed the idea for being Fetish Fuel and banned charon for three days.

Compared to Facehuggers bullshit about breaking girls with shock collars and turning them into mindless slaves? Yeah, facehuggers shit is wayyyyy more creepy.