Nasuverse Shirou's Servant: Rin
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How about this cast:
Emiya Shirou: Tohsaka Rin Caster
Toshaka Rin :Emiya Shirou Archer
Matou Sakura: Medusa Rider
Illyasviel von Einzbern: Shirouko Saber
Bazette: C? Chulainn Lancer
Random Magus: Medea Berserker
Medea: Archerko Assassin
Shirouko: Shirou with Illya's body. Avalon made it through the transfer. Convenienttly enough, it turns out Illya's body is actually rather superhuman after a growth spurt and some rough training. Adds a stat boost because of a contract with the World, and you have a Saber. Maybe. :sweat:
Berserker: Again, the unknown Magus dies very quickly , simply because he doesn't have the mana to manage a Berserker. When the contract is broken, Medea is freed from the Mad enhancement. She places safeguard around to make sure she won't fall to them again, and then crawl around until she find a Master. Maybe Kuzuki, Maybe someone else.
Assassin:Okay, I got nothing.:huh.: Medea botched her summoning, but in a different way? This is pretty much a rip off from the sword dancer doujinshi.
And as the mysterious eighth Servant, last remnant of the 4th Grail war: Black Saber
Emiya Shirou: Tohsaka Rin Caster
Toshaka Rin :Emiya Shirou Archer
Matou Sakura: Medusa Rider
Illyasviel von Einzbern: Shirouko Saber
Bazette: C? Chulainn Lancer
Random Magus: Medea Berserker
Medea: Archerko Assassin
Shirouko: Shirou with Illya's body. Avalon made it through the transfer. Convenienttly enough, it turns out Illya's body is actually rather superhuman after a growth spurt and some rough training. Adds a stat boost because of a contract with the World, and you have a Saber. Maybe. :sweat:
Berserker: Again, the unknown Magus dies very quickly , simply because he doesn't have the mana to manage a Berserker. When the contract is broken, Medea is freed from the Mad enhancement. She places safeguard around to make sure she won't fall to them again, and then crawl around until she find a Master. Maybe Kuzuki, Maybe someone else.
Assassin:Okay, I got nothing.:huh.: Medea botched her summoning, but in a different way? This is pretty much a rip off from the sword dancer doujinshi.
And as the mysterious eighth Servant, last remnant of the 4th Grail war: Black Saber
The Berserker idea is... pretty much impossible. Medea would dissipate quicker than you can say "Hey I'm eating half a town's worth of souls". And you don't just 'shrug off' Mad Enhancement, as far as I understand (and as F1 explained it to me), the Berserker template for Heroic Spirits is /inherently insane/. Mad Enhancement just makes matters easier by making them even more insane for even more pew-pew power.
As for Medea/Rin: The unknown Magus could, simply put, end up dead beforehand, attacked and slain by a vengeful foe from the past. Or he could misplace his summoning Focus and blow himself up. Or any other horrible tragedy.
While this would deprive us of Medea (;_
, we would get an open Caster slot for CasteRin (^_^)
Black Saber: A Gil-like Saber (that is, one without scruples) eating souls to sustain herself.... if you WANT Shiro to kill her all over again, that's the easiest way to do so. Only this time there's no wub-wub feelings preventing him from going ME (TRIES TO) SMISH on someone who eats souls and KILLS in the process. Remember, this is Emiya Shiro, Hero-of-Justice-to-be.
As for Medea/Rin: The unknown Magus could, simply put, end up dead beforehand, attacked and slain by a vengeful foe from the past. Or he could misplace his summoning Focus and blow himself up. Or any other horrible tragedy.
While this would deprive us of Medea (;_
, we would get an open Caster slot for CasteRin (^_^)Black Saber: A Gil-like Saber (that is, one without scruples) eating souls to sustain herself.... if you WANT Shiro to kill her all over again, that's the easiest way to do so. Only this time there's no wub-wub feelings preventing him from going ME (TRIES TO) SMISH on someone who eats souls and KILLS in the process. Remember, this is Emiya Shiro, Hero-of-Justice-to-be.
Bersekerker: Really? Considering Herakles' one moment of clarity, I though that the insanity could be circumvented through special circumtances or skills. Also, the level of insanity in a Berserker is directly proportianal to the rank of its Mad Enhancement so I thought it was responsible for it.
The mana comsumption would be a problem too... she survived a while without a master the last time , can't we stretch it and have uses the same tactics as in UBW?
Problem is we still need a Berserker for the war to begin, but I don't find a character permanently insane terribly interesting. Maybe it's just me, but it feels like a waste.
A Servant corrupted by the Grail has its body converted to flesh and blood. They don't need souls or mana to maintain their existence, so that's not an issue. Also, one possibility would be to have her hanging around the Emiyas, curbing any psychopathic tendencies she might picked up. maybe she could completely steal Taiga's spot andbecome a teacher?
The last bit actually makes a minimum amount sense in my mind, but I'm gonna need some time to put it on paper.
The mana comsumption would be a problem too... she survived a while without a master the last time , can't we stretch it and have uses the same tactics as in UBW?
As for Medea/Rin: The unknown Magus could, simply put, end up dead beforehand, attacked and slain by a vengeful foe from the past. Or he could misplace his summoning Focus and blow himself up. Or any other horrible tragedy.
While this would deprive us of Medea (;_, we would get an open Caster slot for CasteRin (happy.gif)
While this would deprive us of Medea (;_
, we would get an open Caster slot for CasteRin (happy.gif)
A Servant corrupted by the Grail has its body converted to flesh and blood. They don't need souls or mana to maintain their existence, so that's not an issue. Also, one possibility would be to have her hanging around the Emiyas, curbing any psychopathic tendencies she might picked up. maybe she could completely steal Taiga's spot andbecome a teacher?
The last bit actually makes a minimum amount sense in my mind, but I'm gonna need some time to put it on paper.
Actually why not have Heracles as Saber this time around.
Emiya Shirou: Tohsaka Rin Caster
Toshaka Rin :Emiya Shirou Archer
Matou Sakura: Medusa Rider
Illyasviel von Einzbern: Heracles Saber
Bazette: C? Chulainn Lancer
Random Magus: Berserker ~ This mage couldn't control Berserker and was killed by his Servant shortly afterwards.
Emiya Shirou: Tohsaka Rin Caster
Toshaka Rin :Emiya Shirou Archer
Matou Sakura: Medusa Rider
Illyasviel von Einzbern: Heracles Saber
Bazette: C? Chulainn Lancer
Random Magus: Berserker ~ This mage couldn't control Berserker and was killed by his Servant shortly afterwards.
Still lacks boobies. :blue:
Though Herakles as Saber would be badass, and even harder to kill.
The lack of Medea however means that the only left to summon Assasin woul be a regular Zouken*shudders* or at the least a regular Magus, which means True Assassin.
EDIT: On the matter of Berserker Medea, how about having her picked up by Kotomine? He should be a good enough Magus to maintain her, right?
Though Herakles as Saber would be badass, and even harder to kill.
The lack of Medea however means that the only left to summon Assasin woul be a regular Zouken*shudders* or at the least a regular Magus, which means True Assassin.
EDIT: On the matter of Berserker Medea, how about having her picked up by Kotomine? He should be a good enough Magus to maintain her, right?
If you want to go completely AU, then simply change servant classes.
To quote F1...
F/SN's Fate route further proves this. In fact, the 5th Grail War had a pretty ordinary setup.
If you want to, just swap, lessay, Assassin, for axe-wielders, hammerknights or shieldbearers. In fact, be creative. The Holy Grail is the ultimate summoning aid.
If I understand the process right, it's [Eirei] -> [Eirei qualifications] -> [Eirei summoning] -> [Shaping Body/Hero Class] -> [Servant]
To quote F1...
F/SN's Fate route further proves this. In fact, the 5th Grail War had a pretty ordinary setup.
If you want to, just swap, lessay, Assassin, for axe-wielders, hammerknights or shieldbearers. In fact, be creative. The Holy Grail is the ultimate summoning aid.
If I understand the process right, it's [Eirei] -> [Eirei qualifications] -> [Eirei summoning] -> [Shaping Body/Hero Class] -> [Servant]
Thought of another arrangement of Masters for this idea:
Master: Emiya Shirou
Servant: Caster (Tohsaka Rin/Kaleido-Ruby)
> Servant: Saber (Arturia Pendragon)
Master: Tohsaka Rin
Servant: Archer (Mitsuzuri Ayako - became an Epic Hero after an apocalyptic disaster, which she will do anything to prevent)
Master: Matou Sakura
Servant: Lancer (Hippolyta, Queen of the Amazons)
Master: Illyasaviel von Eizbern
Servant: Berserker (Ry?g? Rena, from Higurashi no Naku Kori ni)
Master: Bazett Fraga McRemitz
Servant: Rider (Lydia Litvyak, female Soviet WWII ace)
Master: (unnamed mage, summoned Caster Medea on OTL)
Servant: Assassin (Hassan i Sabbah, who quickly grew offended by that person, killed him, and faded)
Thoughts?
Master: Emiya Shirou
Servant: Caster (Tohsaka Rin/Kaleido-Ruby)
> Servant: Saber (Arturia Pendragon)
Master: Tohsaka Rin
Servant: Archer (Mitsuzuri Ayako - became an Epic Hero after an apocalyptic disaster, which she will do anything to prevent)
Master: Matou Sakura
Servant: Lancer (Hippolyta, Queen of the Amazons)
Master: Illyasaviel von Eizbern
Servant: Berserker (Ry?g? Rena, from Higurashi no Naku Kori ni)
Master: Bazett Fraga McRemitz
Servant: Rider (Lydia Litvyak, female Soviet WWII ace)
Master: (unnamed mage, summoned Caster Medea on OTL)
Servant: Assassin (Hassan i Sabbah, who quickly grew offended by that person, killed him, and faded)
Thoughts?
Ah, sorry. Here's her wiki article. I should have put that link in the post.
Also, not that she's the pilot that Sanya V. Litvak (scroll down a bit) is named for.
EDIT: While she herself may be weak, her mount and Noble Phantasm (which might be the same, or very closely connected) would somewhat make up for that.
I thought about using Rider!Ayanami Rei, but her Noble Phantasm would be Anti-World, literally!
I also thought about Berserker!Soryu Asuka Langely.
Also, not that she's the pilot that Sanya V. Litvak (scroll down a bit) is named for.
EDIT: While she herself may be weak, her mount and Noble Phantasm (which might be the same, or very closely connected) would somewhat make up for that.
I thought about using Rider!Ayanami Rei, but her Noble Phantasm would be Anti-World, literally!
I also thought about Berserker!Soryu Asuka Langely.
Eh, if you're going to go that route, then I would hope that you have something mroe planned then a plane or anything else of that millitary nature of the time. Being a Rider class, the servant would hopefully be fairly proficient at the riding skill to make use of various mounts of sorts, typically of a mythical nature for power purposes. Piloting a plane is something that Saber managed to do with a Riding rank of B, so one would hope that the Rider class shows a bit more proficiency then that.
If you're going to go like that, why not have Lee Harvey Oswald as Assassin? He's got more notoriety than Hassan-i Sabbah does nowadays.
I'd imagine his noble phantasm would be a sniper rifle and a phantasm that makes people think the attack came from somewhere else.
The latter would be called Grassy Knoll.
I'd imagine his noble phantasm would be a sniper rifle and a phantasm that makes people think the attack came from somewhere else.
The latter would be called Grassy Knoll.