Nasuverse The Best Holy Grail War Ever

zeebee1

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#26
Based on the information available he's a lot like the Archer class. Except maybe a bit stronger, except without any useful attacks.
 

marthf1

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#28
Aww, no summoning his brothers & sister SPARTANs to overwhelm with Superior Firepower?? Or summoning a (drop)ship for firesupport?

Anyways, how does he operate Personal Armory? Does he have just a few weapons? Or does he use some kind of 'weapon space'? Also, what does he do about ammo? Does it spawn, does he have to buy it (somehow)? Is Sandvich of limited quantities? Hmm, I wonder if fuel is an issue for Ride....

Seems kind of important since it is one of the main differentiators from the normal Servants. They just say 'Magic did it' but these are Science? guys....
 

marthf1

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#30
Not in these FPS's.
Or at least not to the extent where ammo & weapon storage are not issues. Unless you are saying that they received some technology that fixed that?
 

Watashiwa

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#33
Draveziovas said:
So, anybody thought about JC Denton?
...Damn that's a good idea. Problem is, there are so many ways to level and use Denton that choosing one would piss off his fans. And giving him ALL of his abilities would break something. Probably the universe.

So, should I do Jack or Snake next? Jack is Pyro and Snake is Demoman. After them comes the Soldier who should get an amusing reaction. Still need a Sniper; any more suggestions? I don't know anything about Silent Scope, so I don't know if they'd be appropriate.
 

firestorm

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#34
Silent Scope is an arcade game where there's a PSG-1 lightgun mounted on the cabinet with video display in the scope, so you can snipe through the scope. It's epic.

Also, would the Soldier be...The Soldier? :p
 

Aires Drake

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#35
firestorm said:
Silent Scope is an arcade game where there's a PSG-1 lightgun mounted on the cabinet with video display in the scope, so you can snipe through the scope. It's epic.

Also, would the Soldier be...The Soldier? :p
It bears mentioning, I think, that Silent Scope can be almost impossible if you haven't obsessed over it and practiced at it relentlessly. I second the nomination for the PC from that game to be the Sniper.
 

Watashiwa

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#36
Aires Drake said:
firestorm said:
Silent Scope is an arcade game where there's a PSG-1 lightgun mounted on the cabinet with video display in the scope, so you can snipe through the scope. It's epic.

Also, would the Soldier be...The Soldier? :p
It bears mentioning, I think, that Silent Scope can be almost impossible if you haven't obsessed over it and practiced at it relentlessly. I second the nomination for the PC from that game to be the Sniper.
Well, okay, I knew that much. Any details on plot, etc? Got a name for me?

And firestorm, the Soldier is a surprise! Really! :lol:
 

firestorm

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#37
Aires Drake said:
firestorm said:
Silent Scope is an arcade game where there's a PSG-1 lightgun mounted on the cabinet with video display in the scope, so you can snipe through the scope. It's epic.

Also, would the Soldier be...The Soldier? :p
It bears mentioning, I think, that Silent Scope can be almost impossible if you haven't obsessed over it and practiced at it relentlessly. I second the nomination for the PC from that game to be the Sniper.
Really? I didn't find it that hard at all.

Silent Scope: basically, you're an operating operator who almost single-handedly saves the President and First Family. You also can shoot a Hind pilot in the face while he's strafing your position, as well as pick off enemies from an evading helicopter and beat an SMG-using commando at close quarters with a sniper rifle. Did I mention you're an operating operator? :p
 

Draveziovas

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#38
Watashiwa said:
Draveziovas said:
So, anybody thought about JC Denton?
...Damn that's a good idea. Problem is, there are so many ways to level and use Denton that choosing one would piss off his fans. And giving him ALL of his abilities would break something. Probably the universe.

So, should I do Jack or Snake next? Jack is Pyro and Snake is Demoman. After them comes the Soldier who should get an amusing reaction. Still need a Sniper; any more suggestions? I don't know anything about Silent Scope, so I don't know if they'd be appropriate.
Well, my thinking was that JC would be an Assassin/Spy, given his actions in the game, so all he'd have been summoned with would be his augments, and the Dragon's Tooth Sword. Anything else he'd need to get from the environment.

And Helios, but that'd be his OHFUCK! trump card, not something he pulls out at the drop of a hat.

In a confrontation with any of the other servants, I'd think he'd lose. Not terribly, but he still has less direct combat capabilities.
 

Watashiwa

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#39
firestorm: Sounds good. Does the operator have a name that we can use? And do you have any ideas for his NPs/skills? I'm trying to give everyone at least one totally badass skill or ability, so any suggestions on that front are welcomed.

EDIT: And I think that's it for the Servants, actually. We have seven: Gordon, Isaac, Master Chief, Snake, Jack, the operator and the Soldier-who-will-not-be-named. :p

EDIT2: Just realized the Sniper doesn't need a name; he can just be the Sniper. :rolleyes:
 

firestorm

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#40
Well, his Noble Phantasm would obviously be his rifle...maybe an ability for it to transfer health from whoever it hits to him (in the game, you constantly lost health, and got it back by clearing stages quickly, IIRC)?
 
#41
The End from MGS could make a good sniper.

Linda from the Halo novels could be another good one. That said, Carlos Hathcock of Sim0 Hayha from real life are still IMO more badass.
 

Watashiwa

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#42
Time to get to know Jack

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Jack
Class: Pyro
Master: Matou Sakura
Alignment: Chaotic
Noble Phantasm: A
Strength: B
Endurance: C
Agility: B
Mana: N/A (SCIENCE!!)
Luck: C

Skills:

Human Inferno [Gene Tonic; modified by class]
Rank: A
The Human Inferno gene tonic makes its user highly flame resistant and turns up the heat on fires he starts. Members of the Pyro class are highly flame resistant. The two effects have stacked, making Jack virtually fireproof and his flames orders of magnitude stronger.

A Man Chooses
Rank: EX
After a lifetime of manipulation at the hands of others, Jack would kindly like to tell you to fuck off; he makes his own choices now. As such, Jack can choose to ignore any and all compulsions (magical and otherwise) placed upon him, up to and including command seals.

Noble Phantasm:

Rapture
Rank: C
By injecting unprocessed ADAM into an enemy, Jack can induce a state of bliss so powerful that they are immediately incapacitated. Side effects include death; those injected with ADAM sometimes simply forget to breathe. Multiple doses can guarantee this. Repeated injections over time decrease how long the injectee is incapacitated as he develops a resistance to its effects.

Plasmids
Rank: Varies
The experiments conducted in the underwater city of Rapture gave rise to a variety of awe-inspiring genetic manipulation technologies, the crowning achievement of which is Ryan Industries line of plasmids. Upon injection to the bloodstream, the user's genetic code is rewritten to grant a variety of useful powers.

Incinerate!
Rank: A (upgraded by class)
The Incinerate! plasmid spontaneously combusts a target designated within its users line of sight. Boosted by the Pyro class, Jack now has limited control over the spread of the flame. He can only manipulate flames he himself cretes , and only after the igniting blast.

Electro Bolt
Rank: B+
This plasmid fires of blast of lightning from its user's fingers. Rather self-explanatory.

Shockwave
Rank: B (upgraded by class)
The Shockwave plasmid creates a blast of force that throws objects in a small area in front of Jack. For some odd reason, this plasmid has been upgraded by the Pyro class despite not being fire-based. (Note: Pyro's air blast)

Insect Swarm
Rank: B
This plasmid generates a swarm of biting, stinging insects from hives on Jack's arms. The insects attack all available targets in an area, and though Jack is incapable of directing the swarm's movement or targets, he is capable of commanding it to stop attacking individuals.

Target Dummy
Rank: C
This plasmid creates a vaguely Jack-shaped illusion that subtly entices enemies to attack it. The ghost lasts for ten seconds.

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Rank: EX
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Oh dear, looks like the SCP Foundation got at this entry.

Anyone have any ideas for Gene Tonics? Should I even bother?

Oh, and the Wrench isn't included under NPs because Jack doesn't have one the same way Gordon has the crowbar; the crowbar is (one of) Gordon's signature weapons while the plasmids are Jack's.
 

Gatorade

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#43
A Man Chooses? Oh the look on Shinji's face is going to be hilarious.
 

Watashiwa

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#44
Gatorade said:
A Man Chooses? Oh the look on Shinji's face is going to be hilarious.
Oh you have no idea. :p



Two in one night? UNPOSSIBLE!

The Sniper
Class: Sniper
Master: Unknown
Alignment: American
Noble Phantasm: A+
Strength: E
Endurance: D
Agility: D
Mana: N/A (SCIENCE!!)
Luck: C

Skills:

Ultimate Assassin
Rank: A+
The ultimate assassin is a title this enigmatic lone sniper deserves. Not only is he capable of amazing feats of gunmanship, such as shooting the chain of a hostage's handcuffs, or a helicopter's rotor gear mid-turn. Always controlled, always collected, his shots are pinpoint accurate at any range. So connected to his gun is he that he feeds off of the life of his targets at the moment of their death, restoring his own energy and healing his wounds.

Noble Phantasm

The Rifle
Rank: A+
A heavily modified HK MSG-90, The Rifle is the Sniper's only weapon; the only weapon he needs. Shots fired by the Sniper with this gun are capable of killing anything in a single hit, if that hit is to the head; even if a headshot would not normally kill the target*.





*(This does mean he could headshot one-shot a Necromorph. Or Berserker.)

Okay, technically saying I did two in one night is cheating given that he's got all of two skills.

BUT GUESS WHO IS NEXT. IT IS THE SOLDIER. WHO IS THE SOLDIER?!

EDIT: Just managed to trip over a suspiciously placed cardboard box.

There was a bomb inside.

And a note.

...


DemoSnake is up next.
 

sworded

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#45
Gatorade said:
A Man Chooses? Oh the look on Shinji's face is going to be hilarious.
To ignore a Command Seal, IMHO, it'd have to be EX, but I could of course be off on that. :huh.:
 

Watashiwa

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#46
sworded said:
Gatorade said:
A Man Chooses? Oh the look on Shinji's face is going to be hilarious.
To ignore a Command Seal, IMHO, it'd have to be EX, but I could of course be off on that. :huh.:
Jack already has an EX Noble Phantasm though. And the Nasuverse ranking system isn't a measure of how useful a power is, but how much raw power is involved in it. Otherwise Rule Breaker would be EX++++++++++++++++.

It isn't.
 

sworded

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#47
Watashiwa said:
sworded said:
Gatorade said:
A Man Chooses? Oh the look on Shinji's face is going to be hilarious.
To ignore a Command Seal, IMHO, it'd have to be EX, but I could of course be off on that. :huh.:
Jack already has an EX Noble Phantasm though. And the Nasuverse ranking system isn't a measure of how useful a power is, but how much raw power is involved in it. Otherwise Rule Breaker would be EX++++++++++++++++.

It isn't.
I knew that; I was refering to the shere power needed to resist a Command that is backed be the Grail system itself. That would, again IMHO, take something with a power on the same level or beyond as the Grail which would be at least an A++ rank.
 

Watashiwa

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#48
sworded said:
Watashiwa said:
sworded said:
Gatorade said:
A Man Chooses? Oh the look on Shinji's face is going to be hilarious.
To ignore a Command Seal, IMHO, it'd have to be EX, but I could of course be off on that. :huh.:
Jack already has an EX Noble Phantasm though. And the Nasuverse ranking system isn't a measure of how useful a power is, but how much raw power is involved in it. Otherwise Rule Breaker would be EX++++++++++++++++.

It isn't.
I knew that; I was refering to the shere power needed to resist a Command that is backed be the Grail system itself. That would, again IMHO, take something with a power on the same level or beyond as the Grail which would be at least an A++ rank.
Again, look at Rule Breaker. The Traced version managed to sever Sakura's connection to the Grail. Rule Breaker=C, Traced Rule Breaker=D. And there's nothing to forge a connection to the Grail like being one yourself.

So, it has nothing to do with the power level so much as it has to do with the power itself. Jack can resist all forms of mind control. So Jack can resist ALL forms of mind control.
 

Amodelsino

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#49
Rank is not raw power at all. In some cases (that being directly offensive NPs) it is a direct correlation, but rank does not equal raw power. Otherwise a nuclear bomb level NP with a rank below A would not be a theoretical possibility.

Rule Breaker is a low rank because its effect is not that great (or it's just lacking in mystery, iunno). Sure, you can destroy all manner of magical contracts and enchantments with it, but that's all you can do with it, and you have to stab the target. Sometimes, it's more useful to you than a laser sword that can destroy cities or a spear that can reverse causality (like in a case where you want to save your possessed girlfriend). That doesn't make it worthy of a higher rank than either of them though.
 

Kai-

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#50
Watashiwa said:
sworded said:
Gatorade said:
A Man Chooses? Oh the look on Shinji's face is going to be hilarious.
To ignore a Command Seal, IMHO, it'd have to be EX, but I could of course be off on that. :huh.:
Jack already has an EX Noble Phantasm though. And the Nasuverse ranking system isn't a measure of how useful a power is, but how much raw power is involved in it. Otherwise Rule Breaker would be EX++++++++++++++++.

It isn't.
Thats the case for Noble Phantasms, but A Man Chooses is a personal skill/talent. And personal skills are more powerful/better the higher rank they are.
 
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