Naruto The Naruto Question Thread
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Fandom's misunderstandings: (I'm not sure if anyone's mentioned these particular ones. It's possible all of them have been addressed.)
-Naruto learned the Rasengan in a week (WRONG. He managed the third stage of the Rasengan about a week after he started it, IIRC. The rest took him the two previous weeks(?), maybe a bit less, so 2~3 weeks)
-Minato was bad at Genjutsu (we don't know his skill in that department)
-The Third had all five affinities (Probably wrong. He mastered jutsu and recomposition from all elements, but that doesn't mean he had more than one element as his main one)
-The Kyuubi was sealed in Naruto with direct help from Shiki Fuujin (Wrong. The Shiki Fuujin was used to split the Kyuubi's essence, and seal its Yin half in Minato. Only the Eight Trigrams Sealing Style was used on Naruto)
I've been reading Naruto fanfics, and there is so much wrong in them, I can't stand it.
-Naruto learned the Rasengan in a week (WRONG. He managed the third stage of the Rasengan about a week after he started it, IIRC. The rest took him the two previous weeks(?), maybe a bit less, so 2~3 weeks)
-Minato was bad at Genjutsu (we don't know his skill in that department)
-The Third had all five affinities (Probably wrong. He mastered jutsu and recomposition from all elements, but that doesn't mean he had more than one element as his main one)
-The Kyuubi was sealed in Naruto with direct help from Shiki Fuujin (Wrong. The Shiki Fuujin was used to split the Kyuubi's essence, and seal its Yin half in Minato. Only the Eight Trigrams Sealing Style was used on Naruto)
I've been reading Naruto fanfics, and there is so much wrong in them, I can't stand it.
Yeah, I see that one all the time.
Okay, never encountered that one before. Though he's actually learned Yin nature transformation which suggests the opposite.
Pretty much goes hand-in-hand which people getting confused about how chakra natures work in general.
I admit to being a victim of this one. It really confused me since the two seals look similar at first glance and, before learning Minato sealed half in himself, it seemed like both sealing techniques were used to seal the Nine-Tails somehow.
Okay, never encountered that one before. Though he's actually learned Yin nature transformation which suggests the opposite.
Pretty much goes hand-in-hand which people getting confused about how chakra natures work in general.
I admit to being a victim of this one. It really confused me since the two seals look similar at first glance and, before learning Minato sealed half in himself, it seemed like both sealing techniques were used to seal the Nine-Tails somehow.
My headcanon:
Solidifying real water into real ice, or melting real ice back into real water, I think would simply require lowering or raising its temperature, which should be relatively easy to do with normal ninjutsu/fuuinjutsu. Consider Jiraiya's Finger Carving Seal, which wasn't a fire nature jutsu but still allowed him to heat up his fingertip in order to burn a message into a surface. I'm pretty sure you could make a wide area-of-effect version of that jutsu and use it to melt a large amount of ice/snow. Doing the reverse and lowering the temperature of the water with normal chakra shouldn't be much more difficult.
If you wanted to infuse that water with chakra and telekinetically throw it around afterward then yeah, you would still need water natured chakra. Likewise, you would need Ice Release if you wanted to weaponize some ice that you just created. But simply melting the ice/snow into water or vice/versa could be done with normal chakra.
Edit: Although I suspect that it's probably possible to manipulate soft snow to a limited degree with Water Release since it still has some fluidity to it and is more similar to water than to solid ice. This I think would work similar to how Kankuro used sand to disguise his puppet during the chuunin exam despite not being Shukaku's jinchuuriki (I assume he used an earth release jutsu.) You wouldn't be able to control the snow effectively enough to weaponize it, but you could probably tunnel and/or swim through a snow drift, or make a cool snowman, or have an awesome snowball fight.
Edit 2: I random thought I just had. You could probably create cool ice sculptures without the Ice Release Bloodline by using teamwork. One ninja would use Water Release to shape a puddle of water into the desired shape and hold it still, while another uses a non-elemental cooling jutsu to lower the water's temperature and freeze it solid.
Solidifying real water into real ice, or melting real ice back into real water, I think would simply require lowering or raising its temperature, which should be relatively easy to do with normal ninjutsu/fuuinjutsu. Consider Jiraiya's Finger Carving Seal, which wasn't a fire nature jutsu but still allowed him to heat up his fingertip in order to burn a message into a surface. I'm pretty sure you could make a wide area-of-effect version of that jutsu and use it to melt a large amount of ice/snow. Doing the reverse and lowering the temperature of the water with normal chakra shouldn't be much more difficult.
If you wanted to infuse that water with chakra and telekinetically throw it around afterward then yeah, you would still need water natured chakra. Likewise, you would need Ice Release if you wanted to weaponize some ice that you just created. But simply melting the ice/snow into water or vice/versa could be done with normal chakra.
Edit: Although I suspect that it's probably possible to manipulate soft snow to a limited degree with Water Release since it still has some fluidity to it and is more similar to water than to solid ice. This I think would work similar to how Kankuro used sand to disguise his puppet during the chuunin exam despite not being Shukaku's jinchuuriki (I assume he used an earth release jutsu.) You wouldn't be able to control the snow effectively enough to weaponize it, but you could probably tunnel and/or swim through a snow drift, or make a cool snowman, or have an awesome snowball fight.
Edit 2: I random thought I just had. You could probably create cool ice sculptures without the Ice Release Bloodline by using teamwork. One ninja would use Water Release to shape a puddle of water into the desired shape and hold it still, while another uses a non-elemental cooling jutsu to lower the water's temperature and freeze it solid.
We know that chakra ice is unrelated to heat manipulation... because Sasuke's fireball had no effect on Haku's mirrors.
This is why I was specifying that you could turn REAL water into REAL ice with normal, non-elemental chakra.
But you would need ice natured chakra to weaponize that real ice, or to transform your own chakra into fake chakra ice.
This is why I was specifying that you could turn REAL water into REAL ice with normal, non-elemental chakra.
But you would need ice natured chakra to weaponize that real ice, or to transform your own chakra into fake chakra ice.
Haku's never used ice senbons, just his Demonic Mirroring Ice Crystals. Which are cold enough to bring the rain snow.
Hmm. So Ice Release does involve temperature control then. But we've also seen that temperature control can be done without elemental chakra. So I guess being able to telekinetically control the resulting state changed matter is the real difference.
Edit: So you could use normal chakra to change the state of water between gas, liquid and solid... but you'd need Boil Release to CONTROL the steam, Water Release to CONTROL the liquid water, and Ice Release to CONTROL the snow/ice.
Edit: So you could use normal chakra to change the state of water between gas, liquid and solid... but you'd need Boil Release to CONTROL the steam, Water Release to CONTROL the liquid water, and Ice Release to CONTROL the snow/ice.
Yeah Knight's right, there are multiple kinds of Boil Release, just like there are multiple kinds of Lava Release. Mei's using "acidic steam" instead of the normal steam that Kokuo uses, but it's still steam. Similarly, the Zetsu use a very different kind of Wood Release than Hashirama does that's more like a fungus than a plant.
I wouldn't be surprised if there are different versions of every advanced element like that. Variants of Ice Release could include snow, freezing rain/sleet, high-density amorphous ice, etc.
I wouldn't be surprised if there are different versions of every advanced element like that. Variants of Ice Release could include snow, freezing rain/sleet, high-density amorphous ice, etc.
Unofficial 4th Databook translations list that jutsu that knight linked to as being a kekkai genkai and Boil Release. I can't find anything that directly states that Han also used Boil Release (Narutopedia's "source" of the Third Databook, page 183 doesn't even mention Kokuo or Han), but I think it's safe to assume that Kokuo gave him the same bloodline power that he lent to Naruto.
Also Suna actually seems to have multiple versions of the magnet release bloodline each of which apparently only work on one specific substance. Iron manipulation, gold manipulation, and sand manipulation. None of those characters ever control a substance besides their specialty (Gaara does use some gold, but he mixes it in with his sand rather than controlling it directly.) That bloodline is really weird.
Also Suna actually seems to have multiple versions of the magnet release bloodline each of which apparently only work on one specific substance. Iron manipulation, gold manipulation, and sand manipulation. None of those characters ever control a substance besides their specialty (Gaara does use some gold, but he mixes it in with his sand rather than controlling it directly.) That bloodline is really weird.
What do you guys think that the basic Yamanaka jutsu (Shintenshin no jutsu) (http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Mind_Body_Switch_Technique) would do if Naruto were targeted?
(My opinion is that, since the jutsu apparently doesn't directly involve the mindscape, the Yamanaka would be immediately ejected (less than a second) similarly to the Elder Toads trying to attach to his body.)
(My opinion is that, since the jutsu apparently doesn't directly involve the mindscape, the Yamanaka would be immediately ejected (less than a second) similarly to the Elder Toads trying to attach to his body.)
Something that just occurred to me when I remembered how Itachi sealed an Amaterasu into Sasuke's eye and set it to go off it he looks at Obito's Sharingan... what if the Konoha ninja had gotten to Sasuke's collapsed body before Obito did and took him back to Konoha... and then Sasuke just happened to look at Kakashi's sharingan eye?