The New Order
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Ok time to try to make a bit of a contribution as well.
First of in the series for whatever reason earth in the series has been the only planet strong enough to survive Metalia a creature that blasted to ruin every other world in the solar system even when Mamoru/Endymion died.
That is enough proof I think that Earth at least isnt dependant on some kind of ubersailor warrior to "save" or "survive".
Second it amuses me to no end that anyone would think that we would accept some kind of Queen or somesuch to rule over us when so much blood has been spilled to get rid of Kings,Queens and the assorted bluebloods that believed that the rest of humanity is cattle to pock and prod at their amusement and that some kind of Mandate of Heaven exists that makes it right for a tiny portion of the population to lord it over the rest of us.
To think that those of us that are fortunate enough to live in a democracy would simply give it up because someone seems to be "Good" and "kind" without some kind of mind control involved... Well you can figure the odds for yourself I think...
Of course in the Series Serenity has the Deux ex Machina of the Silver Imperium crystal and she is Fates postergirl but if I were in a position of authority the moment the world realised that some "Queen" from a kingdom that was blasted to pieces 10000 years ago is trying to take over she would get a thermonuclear letter with her addres on it from urs truly.
Heres my favourite quote on the issue of kings and queens
Even so, a good man as king-'
'Yes? And then what? Royalty pollutes people's minds, boy. Honest men start bowing and
bobbing just because someone's grandad was a bigger murdering bastard than theirs was.
Listen! We probably had good kings, once! But kings breed other kings! And blood tells, and you
end up with a bunch of arrogant, murdering bastards! Chopping off queens' heads and fighting
their cousins every five minutes! And we had centuries of that! And then one day a man said "No
more kings!" and we rose up and we fought the bloody nobles and we dragged the king off his
throne and we dragged him into Sator Square and we chopped his bloody head off! Job well done!
From Commander Sam Vimes
First of in the series for whatever reason earth in the series has been the only planet strong enough to survive Metalia a creature that blasted to ruin every other world in the solar system even when Mamoru/Endymion died.
That is enough proof I think that Earth at least isnt dependant on some kind of ubersailor warrior to "save" or "survive".
Second it amuses me to no end that anyone would think that we would accept some kind of Queen or somesuch to rule over us when so much blood has been spilled to get rid of Kings,Queens and the assorted bluebloods that believed that the rest of humanity is cattle to pock and prod at their amusement and that some kind of Mandate of Heaven exists that makes it right for a tiny portion of the population to lord it over the rest of us.
To think that those of us that are fortunate enough to live in a democracy would simply give it up because someone seems to be "Good" and "kind" without some kind of mind control involved... Well you can figure the odds for yourself I think...
Of course in the Series Serenity has the Deux ex Machina of the Silver Imperium crystal and she is Fates postergirl but if I were in a position of authority the moment the world realised that some "Queen" from a kingdom that was blasted to pieces 10000 years ago is trying to take over she would get a thermonuclear letter with her addres on it from urs truly.
Heres my favourite quote on the issue of kings and queens
Even so, a good man as king-'
'Yes? And then what? Royalty pollutes people's minds, boy. Honest men start bowing and
bobbing just because someone's grandad was a bigger murdering bastard than theirs was.
Listen! We probably had good kings, once! But kings breed other kings! And blood tells, and you
end up with a bunch of arrogant, murdering bastards! Chopping off queens' heads and fighting
their cousins every five minutes! And we had centuries of that! And then one day a man said "No
more kings!" and we rose up and we fought the bloody nobles and we dragged the king off his
throne and we dragged him into Sator Square and we chopped his bloody head off! Job well done!
From Commander Sam Vimes
Metallia was based out on Earth and was supposedly under Beryl's (an Earth Noble) control when she/it attack the moon and got sealed away once again. And by that point Endymion and the moon court's soul where already being reborn.
And it isn't like Democracy is perfect; or that hasn't elected people to King like status before. Also remember both in this and in the manga just WHAT Usagi is offering. A lot people would go for it and those that don't will simply die off and in a generation of two end up joining anyhow.
And it isn't like Democracy is perfect; or that hasn't elected people to King like status before. Also remember both in this and in the manga just WHAT Usagi is offering. A lot people would go for it and those that don't will simply die off and in a generation of two end up joining anyhow.
The thing that gets me is that its being postulated that the various national governments would let parts of their territory defect to another nation. This is shit that starts wars. Handwaving it with "Oh the population wants to" doesn't matter for shit. The South wanted to leave the U.S. back in the 1800s. The population wanted to. Guess what happened? Nation-consuming war. Emigrate to Moon Kingdom? Yeah. Defect with entire towns/cities? No.
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How does this work? The ones that don't go for it raise their kids to be just as suspicious/nationalistic. How do you think Christianity still exists after 2000 years? Why does China still exist after being essentially divided up by the Imperial powers? How does Africa still maintain a cultural identity despite having been under outright European rule for centuries before the restoration of independence?
You assume too much.
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How does this work? The ones that don't go for it raise their kids to be just as suspicious/nationalistic. How do you think Christianity still exists after 2000 years? Why does China still exist after being essentially divided up by the Imperial powers? How does Africa still maintain a cultural identity despite having been under outright European rule for centuries before the restoration of independence?
You assume too much.
Given that I think of at least one case right off the top of my head where they did end up becoming nobility and another which is was BUT nobility in name, it does happen.
There's quite a bit of difference between an Absolute Monarchy which is what you are describing and an Constitutional Monarchy which is closure to what Usagi seems to have.
I wouldn't be willing if I had a choice to live in an Absolute Monarchy but on the other hand a Constitutional Monarchy really wouldn't be that bad. Especially given the benefits that are being provided by Usagi.
There's quite a bit of difference between an Absolute Monarchy which is what you are describing and an Constitutional Monarchy which is closure to what Usagi seems to have.
I wouldn't be willing if I had a choice to live in an Absolute Monarchy but on the other hand a Constitutional Monarchy really wouldn't be that bad. Especially given the benefits that are being provided by Usagi.
Christianity had the benefits of having both martyrs and some extremely strong political backings while for China and the majority of Africa both have had absolutely no reason to either like or ever consider being consider them selves to either be a part of the various power and where usually told when they DID start to consider themselves a part of such, that they weren't.
Neither of which is going to be existing here. Instead you going to get the same type of event that you got in Japan and Germany after World War 2; sure the older generation can complain all they want but frankly all the benefits being offered but by Usagi is going to slowly but steadily erode any support base that they have.
The younger generations are going to suffer from the same effects the former enemies of the US had; that their younger generation is being culturally 'corrupted' by the outside power.
Neither of which is going to be existing here. Instead you going to get the same type of event that you got in Japan and Germany after World War 2; sure the older generation can complain all they want but frankly all the benefits being offered but by Usagi is going to slowly but steadily erode any support base that they have.
The younger generations are going to suffer from the same effects the former enemies of the US had; that their younger generation is being culturally 'corrupted' by the outside power.
Mysterious woman shows up and the world starts to fall under her eventual and complete - but graceful! - control that may bring humanity together?
I'd be intrigued, actually, because it sounds like a good thing. But, I'd also be quite skeptical because knowing human nature as mentioned earlier in this thread, it sounds too good to be true knowing that people are suddenly supporting this so openly. Given enough time, I might suspect that something is wrong if everything falls into place all too well. Granted, I would support it, but keep a close eye on it, making sure my BS-filter and logical fallacy detector are in good working order...
Okay, for the sake of argument and keeping in the spirit of how it appears to be going...if I were the Canadian Prime Minister or is in some other position of political power...
I would support this under certain conditions. Yes, it seems like a good thing for humanity, human rights will hopefully be respected in it, and if the Canadian people and Parliament are not opposed to this 'New World Order', then nor will I. However, this support will be loose and partial - it sounds good, but I'm not going to readily throw my country, my identity, or myself onto this bandwagon.
I would support it only so long as Canadian sovereignty and national identity are respected and maintained, if the Canadian government is still in control over the provinces and territories of Canada, and if this new world order becomes an all-encompassing international forum for the nations of the world, then only if Canada can be ensured representation and a voice in it and on matters concerning Canadian interests.
If any of these terms are violated and if negotiation and discussion are insufficient for resolving the violations, then Canadian support will be withdrawn and the Canadian government will take a neutral stance towards Serenity - neither hostile, nor allied with her or her intentions. From there, if any part of Canada wishes to separate and join Serenity, it will be dealt with internally by the Canadian government as a case of separation or succession. If relations between Serenity and Canada worsen, then it would not be unimaginable to foresee a state of war or hostility.
tl;dr or doesn't make sense? If so, it boils down to this - I support it only if Canada stays Canada and if Canada gets something beneficial out of it. If not, I oppose it.
...for some odd reason, it was really fun for me to write the stuff in this post. Perhaps I do get a kick out of being slightly intolerant, regressive, and protectionist at times?
I'd be intrigued, actually, because it sounds like a good thing. But, I'd also be quite skeptical because knowing human nature as mentioned earlier in this thread, it sounds too good to be true knowing that people are suddenly supporting this so openly. Given enough time, I might suspect that something is wrong if everything falls into place all too well. Granted, I would support it, but keep a close eye on it, making sure my BS-filter and logical fallacy detector are in good working order...
Okay, for the sake of argument and keeping in the spirit of how it appears to be going...if I were the Canadian Prime Minister or is in some other position of political power...
I would support this under certain conditions. Yes, it seems like a good thing for humanity, human rights will hopefully be respected in it, and if the Canadian people and Parliament are not opposed to this 'New World Order', then nor will I. However, this support will be loose and partial - it sounds good, but I'm not going to readily throw my country, my identity, or myself onto this bandwagon.
I would support it only so long as Canadian sovereignty and national identity are respected and maintained, if the Canadian government is still in control over the provinces and territories of Canada, and if this new world order becomes an all-encompassing international forum for the nations of the world, then only if Canada can be ensured representation and a voice in it and on matters concerning Canadian interests.
If any of these terms are violated and if negotiation and discussion are insufficient for resolving the violations, then Canadian support will be withdrawn and the Canadian government will take a neutral stance towards Serenity - neither hostile, nor allied with her or her intentions. From there, if any part of Canada wishes to separate and join Serenity, it will be dealt with internally by the Canadian government as a case of separation or succession. If relations between Serenity and Canada worsen, then it would not be unimaginable to foresee a state of war or hostility.
tl;dr or doesn't make sense? If so, it boils down to this - I support it only if Canada stays Canada and if Canada gets something beneficial out of it. If not, I oppose it.
...for some odd reason, it was really fun for me to write the stuff in this post. Perhaps I do get a kick out of being slightly intolerant, regressive, and protectionist at times?
Are you honestly saying the current national governments of the world do not have strong political, social, and cultural backing? I can't believe I'm reading this. By your logic Nazi Germany should have been able to easily and peacefully conquer the world because they offered an efficient government. France, Poland et. al. would have stood back and watched themselves be subsumed into this new super-nation.
Or is this that you don't believe there'd be MASSIVE cultural bias against everything Serenity is from pretty much every nation on the planet? And you still haven't addressed the likely Christian reaction.
Or is this that you don't believe there'd be MASSIVE cultural bias against everything Serenity is from pretty much every nation on the planet? And you still haven't addressed the likely Christian reaction.
No your utterly twisting what I said, frankly I can't see how you managed to get the Nazi Germany thing from what I stated. What I'm saying given time that TNO government is going to come to dominate both culturally and economically the rest of the world; quite similar to what the United States has done in real life but on a far larger scale.
Part of the major reason that people wanted to move to the US was do to how they influenced the rest of world culturally by showing them all things that people living their had.
Combine this with the fact that none of major world governments outside of TNO can give their citizens all the befits that Usagi is offering and in a generation or two the vast majority is going to be pro-TNO.
As for Christian reaction how do we know that they don't come to see her as the Second Coming. Keep in mind outside of your bias of her character that in canon Usagi is flat out shown to be highly charismatic and to possess such an intent purity of soul that everyone and their dog can apparently sense it.
Part of the major reason that people wanted to move to the US was do to how they influenced the rest of world culturally by showing them all things that people living their had.
Combine this with the fact that none of major world governments outside of TNO can give their citizens all the befits that Usagi is offering and in a generation or two the vast majority is going to be pro-TNO.
As for Christian reaction how do we know that they don't come to see her as the Second Coming. Keep in mind outside of your bias of her character that in canon Usagi is flat out shown to be highly charismatic and to possess such an intent purity of soul that everyone and their dog can apparently sense it.
I call Godwin on your collective asses. Get back to the point.
Personally, 'here comes the new boss, same as the old boss' would be my attitude, until/unless I get explicit, undeniable proof that there's really something to this whole Queen thing.
And, fuck, they've got the whole of Asia with them, as well as the Aussies, presenting a unified front. An outright war would be long, bloody, and could well result in loss anyway. If I find something about this New Order that just isn't right, asymmetrical warfare is always an option. I make sure I have spare copies of the Anarchists' Cookbook stashed in several nearby and not so nearby locations.
Beyond that? Wait and see.
-Griever
Personally, 'here comes the new boss, same as the old boss' would be my attitude, until/unless I get explicit, undeniable proof that there's really something to this whole Queen thing.
And, fuck, they've got the whole of Asia with them, as well as the Aussies, presenting a unified front. An outright war would be long, bloody, and could well result in loss anyway. If I find something about this New Order that just isn't right, asymmetrical warfare is always an option. I make sure I have spare copies of the Anarchists' Cookbook stashed in several nearby and not so nearby locations.
Beyond that? Wait and see.
-Griever
Griver makes a lot of sense. If this actually happens, and the whole world decides to seced or some such nonsense, and it's good, what am I supposed to do here?
Be an angry little man, shaking his fist ineffectualy?
Basicaly, if I find out this TNO isn't all it's cracked up to be, I'm ... going to just sit with it. I'm only one man, after all.
Now, if she breeds mass discontent, or does some brainwashing thing, yeah. Viva la resistance. Followed by rebellion, then revolution.
Be an angry little man, shaking his fist ineffectualy?
Basicaly, if I find out this TNO isn't all it's cracked up to be, I'm ... going to just sit with it. I'm only one man, after all.
Now, if she breeds mass discontent, or does some brainwashing thing, yeah. Viva la resistance. Followed by rebellion, then revolution.
"So perverse is mankind that every nationality prefers to be misgoverned by its own people than to be well ruled by another."
-- General Sir Charles James Napier GCB
I'm going to keep an eye on the news, and wait for the nukes to start falling. Because they would. If she manages to get China (or Korea, for that matter - most of Asia appears to hate Japan, and the feeling seems to be mutual) without a war, I'll start thinking 'mind control', and I doubt I'd be the only one. Humans just don't behave that way, as NDF rather over-verbosely pointed out.
Frankly, what could I do about it? Accepting a leadership position means supporting someone who appears to be using mass mind control.
If I had money, I'd start saving up for a ticket to Nemesis.
-- General Sir Charles James Napier GCB
I'm going to keep an eye on the news, and wait for the nukes to start falling. Because they would. If she manages to get China (or Korea, for that matter - most of Asia appears to hate Japan, and the feeling seems to be mutual) without a war, I'll start thinking 'mind control', and I doubt I'd be the only one. Humans just don't behave that way, as NDF rather over-verbosely pointed out.
Frankly, what could I do about it? Accepting a leadership position means supporting someone who appears to be using mass mind control.
If I had money, I'd start saving up for a ticket to Nemesis.
Well, here are my two cents; take it for what it's worth. ^_^
Since it is a given that Serenity/Usagi can use magic and has the Ginzuisho, a powerful magical artifact, and has access to Sailor Pluto and the Time Gates, who is to say that Serenity doesn't pull a Superman IV and just locate and seize all nuclear weapons and other WMDs? You can't hide the WMDs, they can magic them out of whatever hiding place they are hidden, and Pluto can pretty much tell when they are going to either attempt to use them OR try to kill Serenity. In fact, those two actions are the only things that will result in a massive reprisal by the Senshi, which can retaliate against the leadership that ordered it.
For example, if North Korea were to launch WMDs against Japan to prevent it from joining the New Silver Millennium, Serenity can stop the missiles before they detonate, jump into the military bases to disable the control systems and seize the rest, then jump in and either capture or destroy the NK military and political leadership. The Senshis use magic, if they attack full out using coherent tactical planning, normal military forces will not be able to withstand them.
A lot of this depends on how hard-nosed Serenity acts (who is now grown up and not really Usagi of the series anymore). If the NK gov't were to try a nuclear attack, or the ChiComs tried to assassinate Serenity or any of the Senshi, seeing the people who ordered it tried on live worldwide TV, found guilty and immediately executed by the Senshi would put a damper on most attacks by nations-states. There will always be attacks by crazies, but that has always been a risk.
If you want to see examples of the previous Serenity (Usagi's mom) acting this way, read Ozzallos's excellent story "Heir to the Empire" at FF.net. In this story (in a flashback), a hostile nation-planet glassed a world of 23 billion that was a part of the SME. The SME immediately declared war, captured all it's territory planets, and when the SME fleet finally surrounded the enemy home world, Serenity herself launched singularity (black hole) weapons that reduced the planet to cinders and energy.
Since it is a given that Serenity/Usagi can use magic and has the Ginzuisho, a powerful magical artifact, and has access to Sailor Pluto and the Time Gates, who is to say that Serenity doesn't pull a Superman IV and just locate and seize all nuclear weapons and other WMDs? You can't hide the WMDs, they can magic them out of whatever hiding place they are hidden, and Pluto can pretty much tell when they are going to either attempt to use them OR try to kill Serenity. In fact, those two actions are the only things that will result in a massive reprisal by the Senshi, which can retaliate against the leadership that ordered it.
For example, if North Korea were to launch WMDs against Japan to prevent it from joining the New Silver Millennium, Serenity can stop the missiles before they detonate, jump into the military bases to disable the control systems and seize the rest, then jump in and either capture or destroy the NK military and political leadership. The Senshis use magic, if they attack full out using coherent tactical planning, normal military forces will not be able to withstand them.
A lot of this depends on how hard-nosed Serenity acts (who is now grown up and not really Usagi of the series anymore). If the NK gov't were to try a nuclear attack, or the ChiComs tried to assassinate Serenity or any of the Senshi, seeing the people who ordered it tried on live worldwide TV, found guilty and immediately executed by the Senshi would put a damper on most attacks by nations-states. There will always be attacks by crazies, but that has always been a risk.
If you want to see examples of the previous Serenity (Usagi's mom) acting this way, read Ozzallos's excellent story "Heir to the Empire" at FF.net. In this story (in a flashback), a hostile nation-planet glassed a world of 23 billion that was a part of the SME. The SME immediately declared war, captured all it's territory planets, and when the SME fleet finally surrounded the enemy home world, Serenity herself launched singularity (black hole) weapons that reduced the planet to cinders and energy.
Any outside observer would realize something fishy is going on if whole countires fall to her rule in a peaceful fashion. For all of human history at no time do we go a century with peace. At least every other decade has there been a war somewhere on the globe.
And then there is the notion that she is oh so perfect. That their empire has everything and the people are happy there. There is something inherently wrong with a system that seems so Fake. All of our lives have we, humans strived for that. For that single drop of perfection that will make all things right. We will never attain that for once we have, for what purpose do we then live? Why should we? There is no goal, no reason,
no Purpose.
A perfect person. It makes me sick. There is no human that will ever be perfect. Everyone has flaws, everyone has that dark little secret tucked away in the farthest corner of their soul that if it ever gets out will destroy them utterly. And if she isnt human... what gives her the right to rule us? Why should some other species rule us?
If we cant have this planet... no one can. If we cant have this solar system... no one will.
I would rather see this world burn to ash than watch it become an idle utopia.
And then there is the notion that she is oh so perfect. That their empire has everything and the people are happy there. There is something inherently wrong with a system that seems so Fake. All of our lives have we, humans strived for that. For that single drop of perfection that will make all things right. We will never attain that for once we have, for what purpose do we then live? Why should we? There is no goal, no reason,
no Purpose.
A perfect person. It makes me sick. There is no human that will ever be perfect. Everyone has flaws, everyone has that dark little secret tucked away in the farthest corner of their soul that if it ever gets out will destroy them utterly. And if she isnt human... what gives her the right to rule us? Why should some other species rule us?
If we cant have this planet... no one can. If we cant have this solar system... no one will.
I would rather see this world burn to ash than watch it become an idle utopia.
Don't mention my point until you understand it. I'm sick of the fanon regarding Crystal Tokyo and everything related to it, which this thread screams of. I posted in the way that I did because I thought it was amusing, but it seems that was lost in translation. I'm tired of this debate and I'm tired of the stories that spring from it. It's boring as hell and dated as hell and I'm tired of it and I wish it had never started, but since that's too late I wish it would just end. The horse has been beaten to death and its carcass is being continually beaten and sodomized. The carcass is also rotting. Dear god does it stink.
Oddly enough, I suspect that I would quite likely support this. A sensible government? One with magic? One that cares about the people? One that offers longevity and hope for a better tomorrow?
Now the trouble is people seem to be all for rah! resist and fight it to the bitter end. But the premise is that the unification is more akin to the European Union, one that takes a long time and apparently might NOT involve the nation itself being dissolved. In which case, I can see various leaders signing into this with the idea that they'll be able to live "forever" and thus rule a damn long time with someone higher up. But they can work at replacing her, can't they?
As for the Christians and such, I believe that only the absolute fanatics will end up using violent means "to resist" the she-devil. You know, the people what will pack a gun to kill people overseas, or perhaps explosives under a jacket, or similar actions.
Now the trouble is people seem to be all for rah! resist and fight it to the bitter end. But the premise is that the unification is more akin to the European Union, one that takes a long time and apparently might NOT involve the nation itself being dissolved. In which case, I can see various leaders signing into this with the idea that they'll be able to live "forever" and thus rule a damn long time with someone higher up. But they can work at replacing her, can't they?
As for the Christians and such, I believe that only the absolute fanatics will end up using violent means "to resist" the she-devil. You know, the people what will pack a gun to kill people overseas, or perhaps explosives under a jacket, or similar actions.
...hold on, I'm rather confused. What's the problem with Crystal Tokyo, etc and fanon? I'm not familiar with Sailor Moon and even less so with what goes on in the fanfiction community, and while I threw in my view for kicks and giggles, it appears there is something larger and deeper here that is beyond me.
If someone may be so kind as to point me in the right direction?
If someone may be so kind as to point me in the right direction?
[quote="Legacy|]...hold on, I'm rather confused. What's the problem with Crystal Tokyo, etc and fanon? I'm not familiar with Sailor Moon and even less so with what goes on in the fanfiction community, and while I threw in my view for kicks and giggles, it appears there is something larger and deeper here that is beyond me.
If someone may be so kind as to point me in the right direction?[/quote]
I think fanon Crystal Tokyo is the uh... totalitarian dystopia/utopia that as mentioned before been beaten into the ground and then some.
I dont know the canon one so I cant elaborate on that.
If someone may be so kind as to point me in the right direction?[/quote]
I think fanon Crystal Tokyo is the uh... totalitarian dystopia/utopia that as mentioned before been beaten into the ground and then some.
I dont know the canon one so I cant elaborate on that.
Query.
At it's heart, the world as ruled by Usagi appears to much be like the Federation in some ways; a utopia-type setting where you get to live a damn long time, and things tend to generally be good. It's a true Federation analog as it's not communistic (at least not implied to be) where money doesn't really exist due to it being a replicator-level economy.
So, the question is... would people buy into a utopia.
The leader is voted for; this tends to go to Usagi due to her being charismatic and such, who tends to work for the people.
Life-span for citizens is increased at least by 10 times; assuming people have an average life-span of 100 years (it's less generally).
No apparent global conflicts. At least wars and such.
And you're not being made to join.
At it's heart, the world as ruled by Usagi appears to much be like the Federation in some ways; a utopia-type setting where you get to live a damn long time, and things tend to generally be good. It's a true Federation analog as it's not communistic (at least not implied to be) where money doesn't really exist due to it being a replicator-level economy.
So, the question is... would people buy into a utopia.
The leader is voted for; this tends to go to Usagi due to her being charismatic and such, who tends to work for the people.
Life-span for citizens is increased at least by 10 times; assuming people have an average life-span of 100 years (it's less generally).
No apparent global conflicts. At least wars and such.
And you're not being made to join.
I have to thank each and every person who has contributed to this discussion. Though IÆm still waiting on an answer from David, IÆll go ahead and say this. If I ever do find the time to write a story set after the unification of humanity under SerenityÆs rule, I will be using this thread to forge the back story, and make SerenityÆs rule (and any continuing opposition to it) as authentic as I can.
At the moment IÆm thinking that LegacyÆs idea will be the basis for how the world government works. It makes sense to me, itÆs kind of how things worked by the end of Season 4 of Babylon 5, and that endured. I donÆt know what IÆm going to call the Moon Kingdoms version of Rangers, but IÆll deal with that later.
Some things to note:
1. This will not be a Utopia, but it will be a system that the works for the majority of humanity.
2. Any story I write, wonÆt focus on the Senshi. It will deal with the regular people who live in this time period.
3. Star Ships will be used but in intra-planetary travel will be by way of Star Bridge.
4. IÆm going to borrow some of the Tech from æMass EffectÆ and fuse it with Sailor Moon magic (if I can) to forge a more plausible whole.
If I write anything it will be in the form of short stories, and vignettes dealing with life amongst a (mostly) unified world.
Thanks again all!
Extra Note: For those who think weÆll be idle without internal conflict. I disagree, once weÆve stopped shooting at each other, we can finally dedicate time and resources to exploring the universe at large. I mean how much do we really know? What wonders can we create once we are no longer killing one another on a daily basis, or wasting precious time, power, and resources in constant warfare?
At the moment IÆm thinking that LegacyÆs idea will be the basis for how the world government works. It makes sense to me, itÆs kind of how things worked by the end of Season 4 of Babylon 5, and that endured. I donÆt know what IÆm going to call the Moon Kingdoms version of Rangers, but IÆll deal with that later.
Some things to note:
1. This will not be a Utopia, but it will be a system that the works for the majority of humanity.
2. Any story I write, wonÆt focus on the Senshi. It will deal with the regular people who live in this time period.
3. Star Ships will be used but in intra-planetary travel will be by way of Star Bridge.
4. IÆm going to borrow some of the Tech from æMass EffectÆ and fuse it with Sailor Moon magic (if I can) to forge a more plausible whole.
If I write anything it will be in the form of short stories, and vignettes dealing with life amongst a (mostly) unified world.
Thanks again all!
Extra Note: For those who think weÆll be idle without internal conflict. I disagree, once weÆve stopped shooting at each other, we can finally dedicate time and resources to exploring the universe at large. I mean how much do we really know? What wonders can we create once we are no longer killing one another on a daily basis, or wasting precious time, power, and resources in constant warfare?
Go read the Bible. Specifically the part about the Apocalypse. There is ONE female figure in it, and it's quite clearly evil, possesses magical powers and is capable of seducing men to its side, literally.
Yeah, Usagi will fly over REAL well with Christians. As a servant of the Antichrist, that is. :rofl:
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The greatest progress humankind experienced was always during wartime. It's a simple fact that wars helped us as a race advance a lot more than peacetime did.
Your argument is null and void.
Moreover, I love how you assume the Universe would just lie there for us to stink up. Why assume we are the only race in the universe? More importantly, why assume other races would be peaceful, and more importantly, something that won't wipe the lot of humanity out on the spot?
Not to mention that given how humans have this habit of poking their noses where they shouldn't, I'm betting it's a matter of time before they release some kind of Chthonian horror so godawful, even Chaos himself would be appalled and terrified by it. Enjoy waking up Azathoth.
...yeah, this topic annoys me, especially certain posts in it...
Yeah, Usagi will fly over REAL well with Christians. As a servant of the Antichrist, that is. :rofl:
EDIT:
The greatest progress humankind experienced was always during wartime. It's a simple fact that wars helped us as a race advance a lot more than peacetime did.
Your argument is null and void.
Moreover, I love how you assume the Universe would just lie there for us to stink up. Why assume we are the only race in the universe? More importantly, why assume other races would be peaceful, and more importantly, something that won't wipe the lot of humanity out on the spot?
Not to mention that given how humans have this habit of poking their noses where they shouldn't, I'm betting it's a matter of time before they release some kind of Chthonian horror so godawful, even Chaos himself would be appalled and terrified by it. Enjoy waking up Azathoth.
...yeah, this topic annoys me, especially certain posts in it...